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Which British political party?

Europaland
30-12-2004, 02:30
Which British political party do you support?

Labour: Centrist, traditionally Social Democrat
Conservative: Centre-right
Liberal Democrat: Centrist
Scottish National Party/Plaid Cymru: Centre-left, Scottish/Welsh seperatist
Respect/Scottish Socialist Party/Forward Wales: Democratic Socialist
Communist Party of Britain: Communist
Green Party: Centre-left, Environmentalist
The Black Imperium
30-12-2004, 02:33
I made a poll a while back like this, but without the 'extra' non-three major parties and their stances. I believe Lib Dems were quite popular.

Liberal Democrat: Centrist
Scottish National Party/Plaid Cymru: Centre-left, Scottish/Welsh seperatist
Either of those two, perhaps Lib Dems since I know more of their policies, but I'm fed up of listening to the Scots whining about the English :P
Europaland
30-12-2004, 02:38
I support the Scottish Socialist Party which has been fairly successful since it was founded 5 years ago and now has 6 Scottish parliament seats.
Khwarezmia
30-12-2004, 02:40
Some of the current Labour Party's policies and ideas are scarily right wing.
Superpower07
30-12-2004, 02:42
No party listed there is libertarian enough for my taste
L-rouge
30-12-2004, 02:42
Labour. I do keep apprised (sp?) of what the other parties are up to, I don't feel that any of the others are in any position to form a workable Government, IMHO.
Europaland
30-12-2004, 18:22
Some of the current Labour Party's policies and ideas are scarily right wing.

I completely agree with that and I think it is very sad how the party which used to represent the working people has moved so far to the right and now only seems to care about the interests of multinational corporations. There is no way a Labour government in the past would have taken part in the criminal invasion of a sovereign nation which has killed 100,000 innocent people.
Gibratlar
30-12-2004, 19:29
Green's obviously; The environmental labour.

At the moment labour, fronted by Blair, is terrible.

Michael (sp?) Howard of the Tori's enjoys eating small children.

The Lib. Dems. are fluffy bears that oppose Labour/Tori policies.

Why would I vote for the Scottish National Party if I live in England?

The Respect party suck with a capital'S'. And 'U'. And 'C'. And even a 'K'. Strange that, isn't it?

Communism Works in theory, not practise.

Other... apart from the Monster Raving Loonies there's nobody worth mentioning here :P
Queensland Ontario
30-12-2004, 19:41
Sein Finn, but youd like to forget about the irish right?gerk
imported_Jako
30-12-2004, 20:20
I completely agree with that and I think it is very sad how the party which used to represent the working people has moved so far to the right and now only seems to care about the interests of multinational corporations. There is no way a Labour government in the past would have taken part in the criminal invasion of a sovereign nation which has killed 100,000 innocent people.

Do you know what the 3 founding socialist aims of the Labour party were?

1) Introduction of a minimum wage.
2) Full employment.
3) Banning alcohol.

This Labour government has achieved those first 2...the correct 2 in my opinion!

Iraq - well you'd have to be pretty ignorant not to appreciate the level of opposition there was to that in the Labour party and in the government itself. But some of us joined the Labour party because we wanted to fight against fascism. There was hope that toppling Saddam Hussein's regime would usher in a new peaceful democratic Iraq.
Bostopia
30-12-2004, 20:28
Conservative...but Labour'll win the next election. It'll be a smaller margin, the minorities vote'll goto the Tories or Lib Dem but not enough to kick out 'nice old' Mr.Blair.

Which is a real shame, that guy is getting on my nerves - glad to see Blunkett's gone mind you, as much as I respect the guy for getting where he did with a serious disability, I think he would have liked to see labour set up a dictatorship to 'protect the UK from terrorist attacks by becoming a one party state so we may focus solely on protecting the British public instead of having to defend what we do from other parties and the random political scandles that come up and should seriously damage us, but fortunately, we have spin.'
ProMonkians
30-12-2004, 21:44
Lib Dems, for me the SNP are a joke and although the SSP's heart's in the right place, I don't think they have a sound enough economic policy.
Europaland
30-12-2004, 21:48
Sein Finn, but youd like to forget about the irish right?gerk

I didn't include the Irish parties as I don't consider Northern Ireland to be British. I certainly do not like to forget about the people of Ireland and I am in full support of Sinn Fein and the Republican movement.
Bodies Without Organs
30-12-2004, 21:54
Sein Finn, but youd like to forget about the irish right?gerk

...Ulster Unionist Party, Democratic Unionist Party, Workers' Party, Social Democratic and Labour Party, Alliance Party, Progressive Unionist Party, Women's Coalition, Irish Republican Socialist Party, Ulster Christian Democrat Party, Socialist Environmental Alliance, NI Green Party, but you'd like to forget about the rest of the Northern Irish, right?
Bodies Without Organs
30-12-2004, 21:54
I didn't include the Irish parties as I don't consider Northern Ireland to be British.

Why not?
ProMonkians
30-12-2004, 21:54
I don't consider Northern Ireland to be British

You made Iain Paisley cry...
:D
Makatoto
30-12-2004, 22:04
Respect are the best on the list, especially after Galloway won his court case agains the libelous Telegraph. They represent what Labout used to aim for. ineffect, old labour.
imported_Jako
31-12-2004, 13:12
RESPECT?! LOL! Do you know what they decided at their annual conference? That secularism was "Islamophobic". Bunch of nutters. And if they represent Old Labour than I'll take that to mean they represent tired old dogma and a habit of being unelectable.
Belperia
31-12-2004, 13:22
Because some people simply don't, presumably. ;)

I only vote in the local elections, and I usually vote for whoever I think is going to do the best job. Last time out I voted Conservative, mainly because the Labour mongs sold off loads of land to property developers last time they were in. Nationally they're all Amerkan puppets who disgust me. I don't care who takes control.
Neethis
31-12-2004, 13:22
none of the above.
Strensall
31-12-2004, 13:23
Did this one a while ago, got some interesting results..

Feel free to check out the results of the poll here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352971

I don't support any of the political parties wholly, but I do agree with some policies of some parties. Sigh.. :rolleyes:
New Englands Glory
31-12-2004, 14:22
I used to vote for the `monster raving looney party` but now vote for the socialist party.
PurpleMouse
31-12-2004, 15:12
I'd vote Labour if I could vote. Out of the parties that have a chance of getting elected they are the best one.
I would never vote for the Tories. If they get in again I'm going to be straight down to the local Conservative club and setting it alight.
Sineal
31-12-2004, 15:24
Although Lib Dems are more left than Labour nowadays and i'm tempted by them, I hang onto the idea that Tony Blair won't be the leader forever and eventually it might go back to being a proper party for workers.
Kazcaper
31-12-2004, 16:07
...Ulster Unionist Party, Democratic Unionist Party, Workers' Party, Social Democratic and Labour Party, Alliance Party, Progressive Unionist Party, Women's Coalition, Irish Republican Socialist Party, Ulster Christian Democrat Party, Socialist Environmental Alliance, NI Green Party, but you'd like to forget about the rest of the Northern Irish, right?
Exactly. I am a nationalist living in Northern Ireland, and even I would have acknowledged that we don't just have Sinn Fein, for Christ's sake! (I don't support Sinn Fein, but even if I did, I would have to note that there's a number of other parties, as listed by BWO). And there's still a (slight, but notable) majority of unionists, you know. Are they sub-human or something?

I didn't include the Irish parties as I don't consider Northern Ireland to be British.
Whether you like it or not, it is part of the United Kingdom. I vaguely support the nationalist movement (not the republican one, because they're all murderers), but the truth is that Northern Ireland is still under British rule. You don't have to like it, but since it's a fact, you may as well accept it like the majority of us living here have done.
Bodies Without Organs
31-12-2004, 16:25
Whether you like it or not, it is part of the United Kingdom. I vaguely support the nationalist movement (not the republican one, because they're all murderers), but the truth is that Northern Ireland is still under British rule. You don't have to like it, but since it's a fact, you may as well accept it like the majority of us living here have done.

Indeed, simply declaring that one doesn't "consider Northern Ireland to be British" is farcical, particularly given that to be realistic the only mechanism that seems likely to lead to a resolution of the issue, like or not, is tied to the political parties here.

Anyhow, I eagerly await Europaland's explanation and justification for leaving out the NI parties: he is well within his rights to state that NI should be part of Eire, or that it should be part of the Union, but simply flying in the face of facts isn't going to get him anywhere.

Speaking personally, I don't support any of the political parties here, but that doesn't mean I chose to ignore the fact that they exist, or that some of them hold seats in Westminster or the Assembly.
imported_Jako
31-12-2004, 16:30
Although Lib Dems are more left than Labour nowadays and i'm tempted by them, I hang onto the idea that Tony Blair won't be the leader forever and eventually it might go back to being a proper party for workers.

This is a misconception amongst potential Labour voters - that the Lib Dems are more Left-wing than the Labour party. The main reason is because the Lib Dems opposed the war...which is seen as "Left wing". You do know that the Lib Dems voted against the introduction of a minimum wage? And promise to disband the New Deal that has virtually eliminated long-term youth unemployment? Look beyond their posturing and you'll see that the Lib Dems are just an opportunistic centrist party trying to steal disaffected Labour voters.

There is a differnce between the Labour leadership and the Labour grassroots. IMO the Labour party is still the best party for introducing socialist change.
Dogburg
31-12-2004, 16:52
No party listed there is libertarian enough for my taste

Same here. There is a british libertarian party, but it's so piddly I don't think they have any power at all.
Dogburg
31-12-2004, 16:53
Other than that, I'm inclined to vote Looney.
Nadkor
31-12-2004, 16:54
DUP at the last assembly election
MaximillianW
31-12-2004, 17:23
I'll probably vote for the Monster raving loony party. Mostly because there's no good libertarian parties in the UK.