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I can still see him on TV. When he made an appearance last week, he told the muslim people to stand up to the foreigners in Iraq. This was followed by several suicide bombings throughout Iraq, and several fires created on oil pipelines.

It looks like we were closer to capturing Osama Bin Laden two years ago than today. Nowadays, we have no clue of where he is. He might be in Pakistan. He might be in Iran. But in the end, no one knows for certain where he is located at. Isn't there someone out there trying to capture him?

I'm just curious, but where do you guys think Osama Bin Laden is? What do you think he's up to right now? I've heard rumors that Al Queda is getting stronger.

I'm just curious, but where do you guys think Osama Bin Laden is?

He's in the kitchen.

Can't catch him, yet. If they do, there's no more excuse for a "war on terror".

He's in the kitchen.

Hey, this is a pretty serious question though. I read some worker's blog from Afghanistan that insurgents are now on the rise for the past couple of months. It's starting to make me think that Osama might still be in Afghanistan. According to the worker, the insurgents are going from town to town in Afghanistan killing anyone that has an ID card. The ID card was used by the muslim people in order to vote in the Afghanistan election. They will most likely use this same tactic when the Iraqi elections start.

"Whatever happened to Osama Bin Laden?"

He now drives a Yellow Cab in NYC and is attending night school to become a System Administrator for America Online.

Can't catch him, yet. If they do, there's no more excuse for a "war on terror".
You really aren't wrapped too tight, are ya. You capture one man and that's the end of the war? Gimmie a break!

With all the media focus on him during his heyday and all the "how important he was" rhetoric the white house was expounding, capturing Osama would remove another reason for them to continue said war. And with the current sentiment, I think they want as many reasons as they can feed to the public to get them to approve,

who cares where he is? like he's out there being a threat to our great nations? not a chance. his power was down to the fact that his group basically owned afghanistan and could provide a base and funding for various terrorist groups from around the world. Al Qaeda is not on the rise again because it never existed as it is commonly perceived to. in fact the 'Global Terror Network' was basically people using afghanistan as a massive power base. they weren't all swearing allegience (or even necessarily talking) to Osama and his cohorts. the fact is that up til 1998 Al Quaeda had not been heard of. The use of the name by western media groups to denote a large, unknown terrorist threat has been picked up on by Osama and is now commonly used by any extremist groups who wish to strike terror into the hearts of their victims. it also helps that the people hunting you are busy looking for something that doesn't exist and therefore are much less likely to ever catch you.

I've heard rumors that Al Queda is getting stronger.
You know that American lawyers invented Al Qaeda in early 2001? Until that Osama was just a remarkable funder of different terrorist groups. He wasn't their leader.

You really aren't wrapped too tight, are ya. You capture one man and that's the end of the war? Gimmie a break!

True, capturing Osama won't stop terrorism. But I'm pretty sure his capture will fuck them up pretty bad, or tremendously hamper terrorist efforts. The weird thing is that I never hear any news on how we are trying to capture him.

I don't know about you, but capturing Osama Bin Laden is important to me.

who cares where he is? like he's out there being a threat to our great nations? not a chance. his power was down to the fact that his group basically owned afghanistan and could provide a base and funding for various terrorist groups from around the world. Al Qaeda is not on the rise again because it never existed as it is commonly perceived to. in fact the 'Global Terror Network' was basically people using afghanistan as a massive power base. they weren't all swearing allegience (or even necessarily talking) to Osama and his cohorts. the fact is that up til 1998 Al Quaeda had not been heard of. The use of the name by western media groups to denote a large, unknown terrorist threat has been picked up on by Osama and is now commonly used by any extremist groups who wish to strike terror into the hearts of their victims. it also helps that the people hunting you are busy looking for something that doesn't exist and therefore are much less likely to ever catch you.

That may be true, but things changed after the US attacked Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden isn't a leader, he is now a model to terrorist. He is the guy they look up to. After he appeard on screen urging muslims everywhere to attack America, several suicide/car bombings happened throughout Iraq. They also managed to attack "safe" areas of Baghdad and managed to create several explosions and fires throughout the oil pipelines. Osama is the guy that gives them hope and for terrorist to continue their attacks.

1. Isn't there someone out there trying to capture him?
2. I'm just curious, but where do you guys think Osama Bin Laden is? 3.What do you think he's up to right now? 4.I've heard rumors that Al Queda is getting stronger.
1. Yes about 1.9 million American servicemen/women and about 500 million Muslims
2. The border of Afghan and Paki, wheres hes been the whole time
3. Most likely sitting on a cot in a cave with a homemade dialysis machine hooked up pumping his blood and piss and what not while he does voice recordings into a kareoke machine.
4. Depends on what you call stronger, if you mean more people taking up the fight on simmilar grounds as osama and his ilk, then yes they are very likely getting stronger. If you look at all the bases of operations we have destroyed bank account's we've ransacked, prisoners we've taken, then no, they are getting weaker by the day, and they are on the run just about everywhere.

That may be true, but things changed after the US attacked Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden isn't a leader, he is now a model to terrorist. After he appeard on screen urging muslims everywhere to attack America, several suicide/car bombings happened throughout Iraq. They also managed to attack "safe" areas of Baghdad and managed to create several explosions and fires throughout the oil pipelines. Osama is the guy that gives them hope and for terrorist to continue to do terrorist attacks.

i don't think osama being alive, captured or dead makes a difference to the terrorists. they are victims of a disease (i.e. their cause) and terrorism is a symptom. removing osama may lead to a downturn in terrorism but he is not the reason terrorism happens. wider issues need to be addressed in order to combat islamist (i assume that when you talk about terrorists you are referring to islamists) terrorist. for example the continuing travesties in israel. american occupations in various arab nations. etc. Osama is not a 1 man crime wave. his detention in one of the USA's more hospitable camps may be a good thing as far as seeking justice for the vicims of the sept 11 attacks. it will not in any way stop terrorism. if anything, martyring the man may serve to deify him in the eyes of other potential terrorist who then use him as an example.

1. Yes about 1.9 million American servicemen/women and about 500 million Muslims
2. The border of Afghan and Paki, wheres hes been the whole time
3. Most likely sitting on a cot in a cave with a homemade dialysis machine hooked up pumping his blood and piss and what not while he does voice recordings into a kareoke machine.
4. Depends on what you call stronger, if you mean more people taking up the fight on simmilar grounds as osama and his ilk, then yes they are very likely getting stronger. If you look at all the bases of operations we have destroyed bank account's we've ransacked, prisoners we've taken, then no, they are getting weaker by the day, and they are on the run just about everywhere.
Good post. Saved me the trouble of trying to word it and type it out. :)

1. Yes about 1.9 million American servicemen/women and about 500 million Muslims
2. The border of Afghan and Paki, wheres hes been the whole time
3. Most likely sitting on a cot in a cave with a homemade dialysis machine hooked up pumping his blood and piss and what not while he does voice recordings into a kareoke machine.
4. Depends on what you call stronger, if you mean more people taking up the fight on simmilar grounds as osama and his ilk, then yes they are very likely getting stronger. If you look at all the bases of operations we have destroyed bank account's we've ransacked, prisoners we've taken, then no, they are getting weaker by the day, and they are on the run just about everywhere.

1. Our current military figure hovers at around ~1.4million active servicemen, and a couple hundred thousand people in the reserves. This is the ENTIRE US military force stationed across the world. And I doubt the entire Afghanistan population is after him. Most Arabs are sympathetic towards Osama. Please don't just throw numbers around.
2. We don't know where he is.
3. The last time he appeared, it was inside of a home and he was wearing a golden robe. This was on video, not on voice recordings.
4. Weaker by the day? I would like to believe that, but after the last suicide bombings, I can't.

i don't think osama being alive, captured or dead makes a difference to the terrorists. they are victims of a disease (i.e. their cause) and terrorism is a symptom. removing osama may lead to a downturn in terrorism but he is not the reason terrorism happens. wider issues need to be addressed in order to combat islamist (i assume that when you talk about terrorists you are referring to islamists) terrorist. for example the continuing travesties in israel. american occupations in various arab nations. etc. Osama is not a 1 man crime wave. his detention in one of the USA's more hospitable camps may be a good thing as far as seeking justice for the vicims of the sept 11 attacks. it will not in any way stop terrorism. if anything, martyring the man may serve to deify him in the eyes of other potential terrorist who then use him as an example.

Yes, you're right. The War on Terror is a social issue. It's like the War on Drugs or the War on Poverty, which are easier to classify as social wars. However, capturing Osama will at least place us one step closer on the possibility of resolving the issue(hopefully).

He's in the kitchen.

lol

1. Our current military figure hovers at around ~1.4million active servicemen, and a couple hundred thousand people in the reserves. This is the ENTIRE US military force stationed across the world. And I doubt the entire Afghanistan population is after him. Most Arabs are sympathetic towards Osama. Please don't just throw numbers around.
2. We don't know where he is.
3. The last time he appeared, it was inside of a home and he was wearing a golden robe. This was on video, not on voice recordings.
4. Weaker by the day? I would like to believe that, but after the last suicide bombings, I can't.

1. There are over 1 million men and women in the ARMY alone, if you havent noticed reserves and national guard are being deployed just as much as active forces. Whether they are overseas or not they are looking for terrorists, not to mention border patrol, us coast guard and millions of police officers(that is, if osama were dumb enough to try to come here)
Most Arabs are NOT sympathetic towards Osama, don't try to spead that bullshit here.
2. You asked where I THOUGHT he was, and that it what I think.
3. You would be suprised how nice some caves look, im serious they have sheetrock, paneling, tile, even electricity and runnning water sometimes. :p
4. As I said it depends on how you look at it, the war in Iraq has drawn more supporters for Osama and his cause, but we have eliminated havens in afghanistan, and taken top echelon personnel captive(or killed them) Afghanistan was a very big large and huge major principal huge and big base of operations that was very very very important to his organization and it was very very big and ver yvery very especially very complex. Even though they are still working on it, there have been major victories.

:D

good night
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According to the supermarket tabloids, Osama bin Laden is Saddam Hussein's gay spouse and the two of them share an adopted shaved baby monkey. So it MUST be the truth. :rolleyes:

He's probably making another movie to support Democratic candidates while the (conservative :rolleyes: ) media tells everyone that he dosen't support anyone.

1. There are over 1 million men and women in the ARMY alone, if you havent noticed reserves and national guard are being deployed just as much as active forces. Whether they are overseas or not they are looking for terrorists, not to mention border patrol, us coast guard and millions of police officers(that is, if osama were dumb enough to try to come here)
Most Arabs are NOT sympathetic towards Osama, don't try to spead that bullshit here.
2. You asked where I THOUGHT he was, and that it what I think.
3. You would be suprised how nice some caves look, im serious they have sheetrock, paneling, tile, even electricity and runnning water sometimes. :p
4. As I said it depends on how you look at it, the war in Iraq has drawn more supporters for Osama and his cause, but we have eliminated havens in afghanistan, and taken top echelon personnel captive(or killed them) Afghanistan was a very big large and huge major principal huge and big base of operations that was very very very important to his organization and it was very very big and ver yvery very especially very complex. Even though they are still working on it, there have been major victories.

:D

good night
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1. Yea, I'm sure the army has a million people. But don't tell me that all milion are looking for him. At the moment. Around ~20,000 soldiers are in Afghanistan looking for Osama.
http://www.tcf.org/afghanistanwatch/main.htm

Arabs hate Osama? I bet you think they love us too.

Washington post is a conservative newspaper. During the election, they endorsed Bush and they were also the newspaper that fired their liberal comic writer because he was bashing Bush.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7080-2004Jul22.html
Excerpt from above article:
Poll Shows Growing Arab Rancor at U.S.
Arab views of the United States have worsened in the past two years to such an extent that in Egypt -- an important ally in the region -- nearly 100 percent of the population now holds an unfavorable opinion of the country, according to two polls due out today.

http://gadflyer.com/flytrap/index.php?Week=200413#143
Excerpt from recorded speech:
And yet the opinion polls now show that up to 90 percent of people in those countries either hate the United States or have a very negative opinion of the United States.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/08/poll.binladen/
Excerpt from article:
Poll of Saudis shows wide support for bin Laden's views.

Damn you, stop running around saying shit without researching it first. I tried to find the most recent articles. I saw other ones, but they were from year 2001.

2 + 3 + 4. Yea, you're right for those points. We won major battles against them in Afghanistan. But that's pointless if they can keep rebuilding it.

You really aren't wrapped too tight, are ya. You capture one man and that's the end of the war? Gimmie a break!

For many americans sure.

Why else do we have one figurehead in our wars?

The Kaiser, Hitler, Tojo, Sadaam, Bin Laden....

If they caught Bin Laden(I think he is dead but that is a different story) and Iraq suddenly relaxed; people are going to want the troops home and his little crusade would end.

I really have no clue. But I will leave with this little tidbit.
"Eye of Skull has a secret."

He's probably living in West Palm Beach. He's enjoying a couple of 20-year old bimbos in thongs, and drinking a fine single malt. His boyz are probably snorting some coke out on the pool deck.

PATHETIC. That's what I'm thinking. Osama has already won if no one has done a thing trying to capture him. It's like screaming, "HEY, if you want to blow up buildings in the US, go ahead because after 3 years, we'll all give up trying to capture you. Or better yet, we'll do a half-ass crappy job doing it."

I'm just curious, but where do you guys think Osama Bin Laden is?


Drowned in a Tsunami.

I would agree with the assumption made by Peter Bergen after the release of the last video tape. He is in Iran.