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Do you believe in Nastradamus's Prophecys? Some say that he predicted things such as the development of the nuclear weapons, the space shuttle explosions, the first gulf war, Hitler, and even September the 11th. While others say that these "predictions" are just coincidence. And they ask where are they BEFORE something happens. Well here is what I think:

I think that Nastradamus wrote his quatrain predictions to give us a warning. He is trying to warn us of some catastrophy. And giving the wording of his predictions, he wrote them so that we wouldnt understand until AFTER the event happened. Therefore he gives us the chance to change history, but makes it very difficult for us.

Do you believe in Nastradamus's Prophecys? Some say that he predicted things such as the development of the nuclear weapons, the space shuttle explosions, the first gulf war, Hitler, and even September the 11th. While others say that these "predictions" are just coincidence. And they ask where are they BEFORE something happens. Well here is what I think:

I think that Nastradamus wrote his quatrain predictions to give us a warning. He is trying to warn us of some catastrophy. And giving the wording of his predictions, he wrote them so that we wouldnt understand until AFTER the event happened. Therefore he gives us the chance to change history, but makes it very difficult for us.

He wrote the quatrains not to hide them but out of fear. The Christians of the time probably would have burned him for such talk.

Nastradamus? Who's that? I've heard of someone called Nostradamus, who's been said to have predicted these things, but...

Sarcasm aside, I don't believe in his predictions. Come on, you can't take vague things and act like they predicted such and such. I could probably twist them around to say that he predicted that I have a toaster, if I wanted to.

Do you believe in Nastradamus's Prophecys? Some say that he predicted things such as the development of the nuclear weapons, the space shuttle explosions, the first gulf war, Hitler, and even September the 11th. While others say that these "predictions" are just coincidence. And they ask where are they BEFORE something happens. Well here is what I think:

I think that Nastradamus wrote his quatrain predictions to give us a warning. He is trying to warn us of some catastrophy. And giving the wording of his predictions, he wrote them so that we wouldnt understand until AFTER the event happened. Therefore he gives us the chance to change history, but makes it very difficult for us.

That's what I believe too.

Have you read any of the quatrains? They're rather vague and often only make sense when you know what's involved, which is usually the case AFTER something happens. But its not always like that. High ranking Nazis were in shock after someone discovered a quatrain that stated that "the armenian will ravage cologne". Armenia is just south of Georgia, the birthplace of Stalin. Hitler had all Nostradamus works censored and brought out his own version replacing "armenian" with "arminian" after Arminius, the German that slaughtered Romans in the Teutoburg forest.

Nastradamus? Who's that? I've heard of someone called Nostradamus, who's been said to have predicted these things, but...

Sarcasm aside, I don't believe in his predictions. Come on, you can't take vague things and act like they predicted such and such. I could probably twist them around to say that he predicted that I have a toaster, if I wanted to.

Hm, there is one prediction that you must agree with. He predicted that his writings would be more popular after his death. Surely you will not argue that that prediction isnt true.

Nastradamus? Who's that? I've heard of someone called Nostradamus, who's been said to have predicted these things, but...

Sarcasm aside, I don't believe in his predictions. Come on, you can't take vague things and act like they predicted such and such. I could probably twist them around to say that he predicted that I have a toaster, if I wanted to.
He mentions someone called Hister that will bring doom to Europe...

He mentions someone called Hister that will bring doom to Europe...

He also had predictions of Napoleon:

Throughout Nostradamus' quatrains he speaks of three powerful and tyrannical leaders that he calls anti-Christs. He said they would lead their people through reigns of terror after first seducing them with promises of greatness (Guentte). Napoleon is thought to have been the first of these anti-Christs. Of Napoleon's rise to power and years as Emperor Nostradamus wrote:

An Emperor shall be born near Italy.
Who shall cost the Empire dear,
They shall say, with what people he keeps company
He shall be found less a Prince than a butcher.

Napoleon, who was considered a butcher even by his supporters, certainly cost the Empire dearly in both manpower and political
strength

Source: http://boisdarc.tamu-commerce.edu/www/w/willmc/nostra.htm

There are many more predictions there that have reference to Napoleon too.

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I looked into it sometime back, it seems that his so called "prophecies" were mere coincidences based on vague warnings. That the sheer amount of prophecies he gave, coupled with the amount of time given, and the steady increase of technology, all his sayings would come true sooner or later.

He mentions someone called Hister that will bring doom to Europe...
Hister was the name of a region not too far from where he was

Nostradamus is a fraud. You people know it, too. Stop pretending and get on with life.

I love this crap (but I don't actaully believe it, similar to the reason I also love conspiricies). Some thing interesting I found in one of my books was that some of his prophecies are completely accurate. Take this one


The greatest sail out of the port of Zara, near Byzantium shall he
carry out his enterprise. There shall not be loss of enemies and
freinds; the third will turn on the two and make great pillage and
capture
What he was describing here were events during the Forth Crusade in 1202.

Now it must a really hard task to prophesise things that happened 300 years prior to your own birth. :p

Nastradamus? Who's that? I've heard of someone called Nostradamus, who's been said to have predicted these things, but...

Sarcasm aside, I don't believe in his predictions. Come on, you can't take vague things and act like they predicted such and such. I could probably twist them around to say that he predicted that I have a toaster, if I wanted to.


I was about to make a comment about the typo as well. Wasn't that a rap album? o.O

Sarcasm aside, I don't believe in his predictions. Come on, you can't take vague things and act like they predicted such and such. I could probably twist them around to say that he predicted that I have a toaster, if I wanted to.
Here you are:
In the land of new nations,
Is a man who quickly comes to doubt.
He takes none seriously,
Yet wishes to burn the fruit of the land.

Thank you, thank you. I will be creating more upon request :D .

I'll believe Nostradamus's "predictions" when someone uses them to actually predict something before it happens, rather than applying the quatrains post hoc.

Nostradamus' prophecies are just like all other prophecies. Generic statements that, no matter how you take them they come across as right

A fine example would be the prophecies relating to the 1990's, which included a foretelling of a massive earthquake devastating all of California. Do we see Cali. devastated? No. All that the prophecies are are a bunch of random, fairly obvious guesses.

I'll believe Nostradamus's "predictions" when someone uses them to actually predict something before it happens, rather than applying the quatrains post hoc.
agreed

Nostradamus spoke to general to call his preditictions more precise than the first weather men. Not only this but much was lost and misinterprted during translation since his book was art and as sush was open door interpretation...

Nostradamus seems absurdly popular nowadays, mostly thanks to the tabloids. He seems to be making more prophecies now than he did when he was living.

He mentions someone called Hister that will bring doom to Europe...

The actual quatrain:

Bêtes farouches de faim fleuves tranner;
Plus part du champ encore Hister sera,
En caige de fer le grand sera treisner,
Quand rien enfant de Germain observa. (II.24)

Erika Cheetham, a Nostradamus believer interprets it as:

Beasts wild with hunger will cross the rivers,
The greater part of the battle will be against Hitler.
He will cause great men to be dragged in a cage of iron,
When the son of Germany obeys no law.

However, James Randi, author of a more skeptical book about Nostradamus, rightly interprets "Hister" as a region, not a person:

Beasts mad with hunger will swim across rivers,
Most of the army will be against the Lower Danube.
The great one shall be dragged in an iron cage
When the child brother will observe nothing.

"Germania" could refer to an ancient region of Europe, north of the Danube and east of the Rhine, or it may also refer to a part of the Roman Empire, corresponding to present-day northeastern France and part of Belgium and the Netherlands. Either way the "prediction" only becomes one after the fact.

Honestly, could anyone have read that and predicted the rise of Hitler?