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We will never win this war!

Chellis
25-12-2004, 06:10
The vietnamese forces can outlast ours. They beat the French, and they are beating us. Outside nations are funding them under our noses. They are fighting for a cause, while we are fighting for evil purposes.

This is a growing quagmire. The people at home do not want this war. The soldiers there are being forced to go there. They are deserting in large numbers. Hell, the ones that dont want to be there are commiting horrible atrocities.

These Vietcong are doing bad damage to our troops. Money going down the drain, troop morale going down, etc. You can see it on your televisions. They say we are doing this for the vietnamese people, helping bring stability to south-east asia. Our leaders must stop misleading us. We just cant stand that other nations have different ideas than us.

End this war, Nixon. End it now.
The Lightning Star
25-12-2004, 06:23
The vietnamese forces can outlast ours. They beat the French, and they are beating us. Outside nations are funding them under our noses. They are fighting for a cause, while we are fighting for evil purposes.

This is a growing quagmire. The people at home do not want this war. The soldiers there are being forced to go there. They are deserting in large numbers. Hell, the ones that dont want to be there are commiting horrible atrocities.

These Vietcong are doing bad damage to our troops. Money going down the drain, troop morale going down, etc. You can see it on your televisions. They say we are doing this for the vietnamese people, helping bring stability to south-east asia. Our leaders must stop misleading us. We just cant stand that other nations have different ideas than us.

End this war, Nixon. End it now.

LOL!
Lester P Jones
25-12-2004, 06:25
way to show the similarities
The Lightning Star
25-12-2004, 06:30
Of course, the only reason we withdrew (We didn't TECHNICALLY loose, since we pulled out after a cease-fire. So it was more like a tie. Of course, the North eventually broke the cease-fire and took over the south, but we had already left) was because the pot-head drunk hippies kept screwing with the system and brought it crashing down. Thus leading to all the troop-morale going down and the anguish at home.

I hate hippies.
Colodia
25-12-2004, 06:33
I hate hippies.
Hippies should be ran over with electric cars. Wouldn't the irony be wonderful?
Armed Bookworms
25-12-2004, 06:34
The irony being if we had stayed another two years it would have been a "win", but because we backed out in the name of political expediency it was a "loss".
Kwangistar
25-12-2004, 06:34
Of course, the only reason we withdrew (We didn't TECHNICALLY loose, since we pulled out after a cease-fire. So it was more like a tie. Of course, the North eventually broke the cease-fire and took over the south, but we had already left) was because the pot-head drunk hippies kept screwing with the system and brought it crashing down. Thus leading to all the troop-morale going down and the anguish at home.

I hate hippies.
And, of course, the "objective" coverage of the mainstream (conservative, of course :rolleyes: ) media.
Smeagol-Gollum
25-12-2004, 06:35
Of course, the only reason we withdrew (We didn't TECHNICALLY loose, since we pulled out after a cease-fire. So it was more like a tie. Of course, the North eventually broke the cease-fire and took over the south, but we had already left) was because the pot-head drunk hippies kept screwing with the system and brought it crashing down. Thus leading to all the troop-morale going down and the anguish at home.

I hate hippies.

Hahaha - too late by far to call it a "tie" - it was all a sad mistake.

And based on the so-called "domino" theory - if Vietnam "fell" the all of South Easr Asia would become communist - about as convincing as weapons of mass destruction.
Lester P Jones
25-12-2004, 06:35
Being the "pinko commie liberal traitor" im going to dissagree

the reason they withdrew was because too many americans were dying,
Goed Twee
25-12-2004, 06:37
Being the "pinko commie liberal traitor" im going to dissagree

the reason they withdrew was because too many americans were dying,

You do no understand their mindset.

winning > living people.
Kwangistar
25-12-2004, 06:39
Hahaha - too late by far to call it a "tie" - it was all a sad mistake.

And based on the so-called "domino" theory - if Vietnam "fell" the all of South Easr Asia would become communist - about as convincing as weapons of mass destruction.
So Laos and Cambodia didn't become communist?

Whoops.
Smeagol-Gollum
25-12-2004, 06:41
So Laos and Cambodia didn't become communist?

Whoops.

What part of "all" did you not understand?
The Lightning Star
25-12-2004, 06:44
If i were president, I'd just re-create the draft and call up a massive army. I'd then train them for a year in jungle tactics, and study why the last war lost. Then i'd send the soldiers trained for jungle warfare (about 300,000 of them) to Vietnam. I'd make peace with the terrorists by withdrawing all support for the Israelis and taking all troops outta Arab lands, and give weapons to the terrorists. I'd then burn down the jungles of Vietnam and kill all the communists. I woulda killed two birds with one stone: I woulda ended the terrorist chrisis and gotten revenge for that humiliating stalemate.

Seeing how i'm in dream-world, i wish my World of Warcraft game would come here soon. Cursed snow-storms.
The Parthians
25-12-2004, 07:16
If i were president, I'd just re-create the draft and call up a massive army. I'd then train them for a year in jungle tactics, and study why the last war lost. Then i'd send the soldiers trained for jungle warfare (about 300,000 of them) to Vietnam. I'd make peace with the terrorists by withdrawing all support for the Israelis and taking all troops outta Arab lands, and give weapons to the terrorists. I'd then burn down the jungles of Vietnam and kill all the communists. I woulda killed two birds with one stone: I woulda ended the terrorist chrisis and gotten revenge for that humiliating stalemate.

Seeing how i'm in dream-world, i wish my World of Warcraft game would come here soon. Cursed snow-storms.

I totally agree, for the Vietnam part at least. I wouln't do the plan for stopping terror however.
Chellis
25-12-2004, 07:17
Of course, the only reason we withdrew (We didn't TECHNICALLY loose, since we pulled out after a cease-fire. So it was more like a tie. Of course, the North eventually broke the cease-fire and took over the south, but we had already left) was because the pot-head drunk hippies kept screwing with the system and brought it crashing down. Thus leading to all the troop-morale going down and the anguish at home.

I hate hippies.

Whats with this past-tense talk? Our boys are dying right now in vietnam, and you talk about them as if they were figments of the past!
The Parthians
25-12-2004, 07:18
Whats with this past-tense talk? Our boys are dying right now in vietnam, and you talk about them as if they were figments of the past!

My alternative is to blow up every area that offers any resistance whatsoever. Then they will stop.
The Lightning Star
25-12-2004, 07:23
My alternative is to blow up every area that offers any resistance whatsoever. Then they will stop.

Unfortunatly for people like us, Parthia, "progressive democracies" like the United States don't think about the best way to do something. They look for the one that makes the most money and promotes more democracy.

Thats why when i'm elected i'll pull an Adolf Hitler (have COngress gimme all of its powers and make me dictator for life!)


And is it just me or has Chellis gone off his/her rocker?
Festivals
25-12-2004, 07:23
My alternative is to blow up every area that offers any resistance whatsoever. Then they will stop.
that's kind of the current plan (it aint working btw)
Chellis
25-12-2004, 07:25
Unfortunatly for people like us, Parthia, "progressive democracies" like the United States don't think about the best way to do something. They look for the one that makes the most money and promotes more democracy.

Thats why when i'm elected i'll pull an Adolf Hitler (have COngress gimme all of its powers and make me dictator for life!)


And is it just me or has Chellis gone off his/her rocker?

Im a His.
Holy Sheep
25-12-2004, 07:34
A bit late there Chellis....
Chellis
25-12-2004, 07:36
A bit late there Chellis....

I like your name.
Schrandtopia
25-12-2004, 07:47
ney! I say nixon, ney! stop being a pansie and win this war

-no more restricted bombing crap, if a military target presents itself bomb it to kingdomcome

-get new allies, the current S. Vietnamese regime has little if any integrity, we put them in power and its time to take them out again

-more, better man power - no more bottom of the bucket 100,000 men we're trying to win a war not improve the gene-pool

-more acountability for US soldiers, just cause their away from home dosn't mean they can't be hung for violations of the UMCJ
Chellis
25-12-2004, 08:25
ney! I say nixon, ney! stop being a pansie and win this war

-no more restricted bombing crap, if a military target presents itself bomb it to kingdomcome

-get new allies, the current S. Vietnamese regime has little if any integrity, we put them in power and its time to take them out again

-more, better man power - no more bottom of the bucket 100,000 men we're trying to win a war not improve the gene-pool

-more acountability for US soldiers, just cause their away from home dosn't mean they can't be hung for violations of the UMCJ

Seeing as Nixon would never be man enough to do this, we need the next best thing, which is giving up.
Thrashia
25-12-2004, 08:34
Just to point out one thing though, Congress never declared war on Vietnam; so you could say it wasn't a war but an "advance police action" to put it the way Nixon did. We did withdraw sadly, we were winning the ground war, but the war at home against protesters was saddly a massacre. People are fickle choosers of the fate of others, and hippies dont choose at all since thier high all the time. Luckily theres very few left.
Dark Kanatia
25-12-2004, 08:48
And, of course, the "objective" coverage of the mainstream (conservative, of course :rolleyes: ) media.

The mainstream media is way too liberal (other than Fox, which I almost never watch and can't comment on, but I hear they're very conservative).
The Lightning Star
26-12-2004, 02:24
Nixon should just use n00kz and blow up dem commies. Then we'd show them whose boss i say!


DAZ N00KZ!
Lacadaemon
26-12-2004, 02:36
Sir, I respectfully suggest that we bomb those Godless bastards back to the stone age.

Gen. LeMay. USAF.
The Lightning Star
26-12-2004, 04:43
Sir, I respectfully suggest that we bomb those Godless bastards back to the stone age.

Gen. LeMay. USAF.

I second that motion!
Gen Curtis E LeMay
26-12-2004, 04:47
Indeed, my air forces have the B-52's and the conventional ordinance to make Hiroshima look like fucking marshmallow toasting party.

Just give the order, and I'll make the whole of North Vietnam look like no-man's land during the Battle of the Somme.
Goed Twee
26-12-2004, 04:56
Just give love a chance, man.
Gen Curtis E LeMay
26-12-2004, 05:02
Just give love a chance, man.

You are looking for another Ohio State my hippy friend. We can, and will, crush the Godless sons of bitches in North Vietnam. After that those fucking mongliod Russians have their dance cards marked. Nothing can stop the United States Air Force.
Smeagol-Gollum
26-12-2004, 05:09
Just to point out one thing though, Congress never declared war on Vietnam; so you could say it wasn't a war but an "advance police action" to put it the way Nixon did. We did withdraw sadly, we were winning the ground war, but the war at home against protesters was saddly a massacre. People are fickle choosers of the fate of others, and hippies dont choose at all since thier high all the time. Luckily theres very few left.

Thanks for a most amusing re-write of history.

Vietnam wasn't a war, it was a "police action action".

And you were winning. Hahaha.

Oh, and the hippies - they were a reaction to what was happening, have made their point, won their "war" and moved on.

Hopefully present and future generations can learn to make moral stands, and exercise their right to dissent.
Goed Twee
26-12-2004, 11:07
You are looking for another Ohio State my hippy friend. We can, and will, crush the Godless sons of bitches in North Vietnam. After that those fucking mongliod Russians have their dance cards marked. Nothing can stop the United States Air Force.

Hate only makes more hate.

Proud to be a straightedge hippie ;)
Illich Jackal
26-12-2004, 11:34
Hate only makes more hate.

Proud to be a straightedge hippie ;)

a straightedge hippie, isn't that a contradictio in terminis?
Goed Twee
26-12-2004, 12:06
a straightedge hippie, isn't that a contradictio in terminis?

Not in the least. The main goal behind the hippie movement wasn't about sex or drugs, it was about love and liberation. One can have that while being straightedge easily.
Liasia
26-12-2004, 13:53
Americans have a bad history with terroist actions (basically what Vietminh were). "Spray and pray".
Should have sent in the British army.