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How would you describe yourself politically?

I am politically, socially and aerodynamically incorrect. :)

Economic Socalist, Social Libretarian

Non-aligned with conservitive leanings. I'm a member of the Right-to-Life Party

I am politically, socially and aerodynamically incorrect. :)

I think you'll find that my cats don't like it when you make me laugh. They get all freaked out and floofy.

I am a Blatant Oppurtunist

I am a Communist economically but I also have very libertarian social views and I believe in the importance of democracy.

I think you'll find that my cats don't like it when you make me laugh. They get all freaked out and floofy.

SOunds like a bonus. :)

Of course, now I'm Public Cat Enemy #1. :eek:

L to the C

SOunds like a bonus. :)

Of course, now I'm Public Cat Enemy #1. :eek:

No... *I'm* Public Cat Enemy #1... they're too lazy to associate a crime to a random internet person when they can just blame me for it. *You're* Public Shaed Annoyance (because enemy would be far too strong a word) #1. Enjoy your days, for they will be numbered. And the numbers will be bright and neon and also possibly shiny.

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Oh, excellent. Now I'm getting clawed legs. I think my New Year's Resolution will to become a dog person.

No... *I'm* Public Cat Enemy #1... they're too lazy to associate a crime to a random internet person when they can just blame me for it. *You're* Public Shaed Annoyance (because enemy would be far too strong a word) #1. Enjoy your days, for they will be numbered. And the numbers will be bright and neon and also possibly shiny.

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Oh, excellent. Now I'm getting clawed legs. I think my New Year's Resolution will to become a dog person.

Can they be braille numbers? I like the bumps.

Then again, do you need bright neon shiny braille? :confused:

Evil socialist here.

What is difference between: Democratic Socialist and Social Democrat?

Can they be braille numbers? I like the bumps.

Then again, do you need bright neon shiny braille? :confused:

I think we could make an exception in your case and make it colourful braille. But I'm only being generous because I'm plotting your downfall.

Expect it to involve having two freaked out and floofy cats mailed to you.

What is difference between: Democratic Socialist and Social Democrat?

I think there's a Wikipedia article on it...

You put conservative, but it means so many different things in different countries and time periods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

I think we could make an exception in your case and make it colourful braille. But I'm only being generous because I'm plotting your downfall.

Expect it to involve having two freaked out and floofy cats mailed to you.

Make sure you use enough postage. :)

What is difference between: Democratic Socialist and Social Democrat?

From Wikipedia:

In the past, social democrats were often described as reformist socialists (since they advocated the implementation of socialism through gradual reforms). They were contrasted with the revolutionary socialists, who advocated the implementation of socialism through a workers' revolution. Today, however, the democratic socialists carry on the legacy of reformist socialism and seek to bring about a fully socialist system through electoral means, while most of the social democrats only wish to make capitalism more equitable (and see the abolition of capitalism as unnecessary).

Economic Socalist, Social Libretarian
isn't that Liberal? cos that's me and i got slap bang in the middle of liberal on the political compass.
plus thats what i thought liberal was.

merry xmas tomorrow btw

You put conservative, but it means so many different things in different countries and time periods.

I intended it to mean what conservatism usually is in the USA and UK which is right wing and slightly authoritarian.

From Wikipedia:

In the past, social democrats were often described as reformist socialists (since they advocated the implementation of socialism through gradual reforms). They were contrasted with the revolutionary socialists, who advocated the implementation of socialism through a workers' revolution. Today, however, the democratic socialists carry on the legacy of reformist socialism and seek to bring about a fully socialist system through electoral means, while most of the social democrats only wish to make capitalism more equitable (and see the abolition of capitalism as unnecessary).

Than I'll take Social democrat for 200 Johnnie. Who wants to do away with capitalism? But making it more equitable sounds cool.

None. Politicians suck so being a member of a political party wouldn't make sense.

None. Politicians suck so being a member of a political party wouldn't make sense.

Political ideology != Political party

Make sure you use enough postage. :)

Ohhh, thanks for reminding me. I was getting so caught up with fantasies of mailing away my cats that I would have forgotten about that.

And if you think I'm joking, keep in mind one of said cats is sitting behind me, gnawing on my hair. The other one is probably in the bathroom licking the shower curtains. You cannot know what insanity is until you've owned a cat.

Ohhh, thanks for reminding me. I was getting so caught up with fantasies of mailing away my cats that I would have forgotten about that.

And if you think I'm joking, keep in mind one of said cats is sitting behind me, gnawing on my hair. The other one is probably in the bathroom licking the shower curtains. You cannot know what insanity is until you've owned a cat.
I've had at least one cat in my house since I was six. :)

I've had at least one cat in my house since I was six. :)

That certainly explains a lot... although now I have to worry that cat-insanity is contagious...

I like to describe myself as a "Libertarian Populist". I am very libertarian concerning social and personal issues. I am not what I would consider socialist concerning economic issues, but am very much in favor of worker rights and economic justice for the working class. Pro labor and pro-union.

That certainly explains a lot... although now I have to worry that cat-insanity is contagious...

You're doomed! DOOMED! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-005.gif

screw democratic socialism, i'm a bleeding heart liberal!

You're doomed! DOOMED! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-005.gif

Bah!

Well, at least tell me that the evilness and disdain for humanity is *also* contagious.

Facist.
Why?
Because I believe everyone should do what I say.

I am politically, socially and aerodynamically incorrect. :)

If I built you a giant paper airplane, do you think you could fly it?

I've had at least one cat in my house since I was six. :)
W00t! Cats r0x0r. My family had one cat from before I was born till I was almost 18, but we haven't had another one since which is sad, but he was like an older brother too me, plus he slept almost as much as I did.

Libertarian Capitalist

If I built you a giant paper airplane, do you think you could fly it?

I'd be willing to try. :)

screw democratic socialism, i'm a bleeding heart liberal!

I think you need a heart transplant.

I'm somewhat libertarian and very capitalist.

isn't that Liberal? cos that's me and i got slap bang in the middle of liberal on the political compass.
plus thats what i thought liberal was.
Though there are multiple definitions, one of them, and the I use, certainly is. It may be defined by economically authoritarian and socially libertarian beliefs.

I don't want to debate here, but I just plain out don't like american politics, and I hate Bush, so yea, I guess I am liberal (*tee hee look up liberal in the dictionary, it is open minded and tolerant and such YAY)

Fascism works wonders if you have the right dictator.

I've also been a fan of the 1984 style of government, War is Peace!

I think I'm a Democratic Socialist. I am a member of the Democratic party and I believe that socialism will eventually be the economy of choice for the US.

I'm a civil libertarian, political republican, and a restricted capitalist.

I'm a Furry. It's a political party. It's a religion. It's a tribe. It's a state of mind. It's a social caste. It's a never-ending hairball buffet.

I'm a civil libertarian, political republican

political republican as in member of the republican party? if so, then boy are you in the wrong party.

if not, what exactly do you mean? a republic is a sort of vague term meaning essentially anything without a king.

so what exactly is an anarcho-synicalist? an anarchist who bases their ideas on the thought of diogenes and can't spell?

I'm a crazy far out Libertarian Capitalist

so what exactly is an anarcho-synicalist? an anarchist who bases their ideas on the thought of diogenes and can't spell?

I think the Anarcho-Dyslexics might have something to do with it.
:D

Why has "Libertarian Socialist" been omitted from this list?

Unrepentant, card-carrying member of the Libertarian Party, ACLU and FFrA.
So, yeah... Libertarian Capitalist.

How would you describe yourself politically?
I'm honestly not sure. I don't think I fall into any of the categories you listed, since I agree with elements of almost all of them. Eonomically I favor rather tightly controlled capitalism; I'm for a strong military; socially I tend to be very liberal on most issues; internationally I consider the UN a farce, but strongly support international cooperation between nations. So what's that make me? ( Vittros Ordination ... if you say "insane!" .... grrrrrr! ) :D

I'm honestly not sure. I don't think I fall into any of the categories you listed, since I agree with elements of almost all of them. Eonomically I favor rather tightly controlled capitalism; I'm for a strong military; socially I tend to be very liberal on most issues; internationally I consider the UN a farce, but strongly support international cooperation between nations. So what's that make me? ( Vittros Ordination ... if you say "insane!" .... grrrrrr! ) :D

Insane! (Im not Vittos Ordination so...)

I guess I fall under the category of democratic socialist.

Insane! (Im not Vittos Ordination so...)
Twit! :rolleyes: :headbang:

Why has "Libertarian Socialist" been omitted from this list?

Amen.

I also think this list needs to be expanded. We have a bajillion options for left-wing brethren (no matter how extreme), but there is no divide between traditional conservatives and American neo-cons. Quite simply, there is no way all ideologies could fit into a poll like this.

what is the difference between social democrat, and democratic socialist?

Economic - left of center
Social-libertarian

green israel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

green israel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
thanks, but it still weird they can't be united.

so what exactly is an anarcho-synicalist? an anarchist who bases their ideas on the thought of diogenes and can't spell?

my guess was gonna be something kinda ayn rand-ey. "anarcho cynicalism," where you don't want anyone to control you, have no faith in your fellow human beings, and exploit everyone for your own benefit (see also "libertarian capitalist")

for those who don't get what we're talking about, the real political designation is ANARCHO-SYNDICALIST. look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

I'm registered Republican, because you need to be in one of the major parties in order to get anywhere, but I'm pretty libertarian.

How would you describe yourself politically?

Well, I took an online political test that was in very great detail, but it said economically I'm a liberal, but concerning civil rights, I'm a libertarian, so I guess I'm more of a liberal than anything, but I'm probably a borderline socialist.

I'm registered Republican, because you need to be in one of the major parties in order to get anywhere, but I'm pretty libertarian.

That's not true at all. I assume you mean the American GOP, not some other nation. Frankly, the only difference between signing up for a party on your voter reg and not is voting in the party primaries. That's hardly getting anywhere in life. Likewise, you can also register as one party, and vote the other straight ticket.

Economically libertarian, socially libertarian although I have conservative leanings

What is difference between: Democratic Socialist and Social Democrat?

Oh that's easy ... a Democratic Socialist is a person who enjoys not only an egalitarian society, but likes to vote as well. A Social Democrat is a Democrat who hangs out with friends a lot.

I put fascist. I believe in autocratic rule of the smart, with democratic periodic elections. People would be judged on different levels as to their ability to choose the best canidate, and be given a vote value. Whoever won the most vote points would win, and be given full rule for a period, 4 years or whatever. The system would be capitalistic, pure, not quasi-capitalistic with socialist undertones. Not really sure where I should be put.

That's not true at all. I assume you mean the American GOP, not some other nation. Frankly, the only difference between signing up for a party on your voter reg and not is voting in the party primaries. That's hardly getting anywhere in life. Likewise, you can also register as one party, and vote the other straight ticket.

Sorry, I don't do this massive online forum thing much, so I start assuming too much (yes, I know what assume does), like people already knowing my nationality. Yes, I mean American GOP. And it's more than just primaries. If you have any political ambitions (and I do), in this country you generally have to join one of the two major parties. Third-party and independent candidates tend to die off rather quickly. Not that I support that, but that's the way it is.

I put fascist. I believe in autocratic rule of the smart, with democratic periodic elections. People would be judged on different levels as to their ability to choose the best canidate, and be given a vote value. Whoever won the most vote points would win, and be given full rule for a period, 4 years or whatever. The system would be capitalistic, pure, not quasi-capitalistic with socialist undertones. Not really sure where I should be put.
Makes sense to me. Considering the pure Republican system (type of government not political party in charge :p) makes little sense in terms of the interest of society as a whole rather than interests of stupid communistic selfish desires which ruin society and the economy.

political republican as in member of the republican party? if so, then boy are you in the wrong party.

if not, what exactly do you mean? a republic is a sort of vague term meaning essentially anything without a king.

Not as part of the Republican party, but in two different senses of republicanism.

In one sense a republican believes that the state works for the people and in return the people have responsibilities. Citizens have many freedoms and rights but they also have corresponding duties.

In another sense a republican believes in a government of the people. The people control the government (usually in some form of a representative democracy). The government is set with many checks and balances to prevent tyranny. And the institutions of the state are formulated so as to best represent teh will of the majority without trampling the rights of the minority.

Libertarian Capitalist. Bordering on anarchist. Laissez-faire, bitch.

No idea. My beliefs are so erractic that I can't narrow it down to one. I would love it if someone could describe my political ideology though!

A nice moderate Democrat. I put Social Democrat because that's probably closest to what I am...strong left on social issues, left-leaning on economic issues. Third-way politics rock!

Economically libertarian, socially libertarian although I have conservative leanings
Ayn Rand, basically

I notice the poll is rather detailed on libertarian left-wing ideologies, but scant on the other sides of the political compass.

isn't that Liberal? cos that's me and i got slap bang in the middle of liberal on the political compass.
plus thats what i thought liberal was.

merry xmas tomorrow btw
In America, Liberal means left economically, and libertarian socially. In Europe, it means right economically, and libertarian socially.

Fascist meats Anarchist. I advocate enforcing a return to the early bronze age, with all the racial and political divisions that existed at the time. All technological progress beyond bronze will be discouraged, possibly with some kind of robot defense system. and no i'm not joking.

I think I'm a Democratic Socialist. I am a member of the Democratic party and I believe that socialism will eventually be the economy of choice for the US.
Do you actually know what socialism is? It is the abolition of private ownership of the means of production (i.e. banning private enterprise). If you do, what are you doing in the Democrat party?

Fascist meats Anarchist. I advocate enforcing a return to the early bronze age, with all the racial and political divisions that existed at the time. All technological progress beyond bronze will be discouraged, possibly with some kind of robot defense system. and no i'm not joking.
You should write fantasy novels.

I'm a Nationalist, but you missed it off. In a way you are right though, as nationalism is more of a way of life than a political ideology.

Economically Distributist (look it up)
Socially Liberal
Politically democratic
Internationally erratic

Economically Distributist (look it up)
Socially Liberal
Politically democratic
Internationally erratic
Sounds kind of like social democracy...

I am a passionate moderate. With extremism easy to find on both ends of the spectrum I find myself with the ability to alienate both sides of the spectrum. It is a lonely position but one in which I have grown comfortable with. A typical example is abortion. I am pro choice which offends everyone who is pro life. However, I am against partial birth abortion, am okay with a 24 hour waiting period to have one, and am in favor of parental notification for minors. Needless to say pro choice purists are also eager unload their anger on me.

Down the line when asked my opinion I manage to irritate both sides. It is a lonely job but someone has to do it. Conservative on defense and liberal on education. It is fun

Samsonish

Sounds kind of like social democracy...

Well, in a way nationalism appeals to the working class, but it isn't limited to the working class like (most) socialism is. Distributism is an economic idea where the government promotes a policy of trying to have as many people 'working for themselves' as possible; that is providing for themselves. Its not socialist as in collectivly owned, but the means of production are well distributed

So people could well be richer than others, but law should prevent more than x number of people working as wage-labour/slaves to another. It is a true Third Way between Capitalism and Socialism.

It is similar to the economic principals of the Green party in Britain (they are Distributist/Socialist) and the BNP (Distributist/Capitalist). Socially I don't much agree with these two, but economically they are very clever. Its a pity most voters vote for the catch-phrase they prefer than the party that suits them ideologically.

You should write fantasy novels.

You should hear/read what Zerzan thinks about language. Crazy bastard.

My ideology is Stalinism, the true, successful form of communism.

HAIL STALIN!!

I describe myself as an old-school communist (as in before Stalin).

You forgot National Socialist. :rolleyes:

I put fascist. I believe in autocratic rule of the smart, with democratic periodic elections. People would be judged on different levels as to their ability to choose the best canidate, and be given a vote value. Whoever won the most vote points would win, and be given full rule for a period, 4 years or whatever. The system would be capitalistic, pure, not quasi-capitalistic with socialist undertones. Not really sure where I should be put.

Technically speaking, you’re not a fascist. Fascism is the belief that the state is of the utmost importance – more important than the state’s people, culture, economy, etc. For this reason NAZIs really aren’t Fascists. What people commonly refer to as Fascism (ie, the British National Party, American NAZI Party, etc.) is just cultural conservatism mixed with liberal economic policies. I think you’d fall into the boat of Paleo-Conservatives.

Fascist meats Anarchist. I advocate enforcing a return to the early bronze age, with all the racial and political divisions that existed at the time. All technological progress beyond bronze will be discouraged, possibly with some kind of robot defense system. and no i'm not joking.

Robot defense system mixed with primitivism?!?! You really need to look into that part of your ideology.

Anyways, you (primitivists) fall into the same trap as progressives. The whole point of primitivism (that industrial society causes people great mental/physical problems) can be nullified if an advanced industrial society were to move beyond Christian/Jewish ideologies (and their “secular” counterparts of humanism, egalitarianism, etc.) – I say you fall into the same trap as progressives as primitivism theory rests upon the idea that modern society is the only possible outcome of industrial society (which is a crass use of Darwinism). What is commonly referred to as “Fascism” really should be sufficient for you - for example: www.anus.com

Anyways, I vote fascist as that is what matches my views most closely on the poll, although I am not a Fascist.

Difficult. Somewhere between Social Democrat, Anarcho Syndicalist, Liberal and Libertarian Capitalist.

I intended it to mean what conservatism usually is in the USA and UK which is right wing and slightly authoritarian.

Eh. Personally, I consider conservatism inherently more libertarian (IE, Gun Control, Property Rights, Freedom to express Religion, etc), but that's another debate for another day.

Anyway. I put Conservative, though I could have also put Libertarian Capitalist. My Political Compass score is here...

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=10.00&Y=-0.92

I am a passionate moderate. With extremism easy to find on both ends of the spectrum I find myself with the ability to alienate both sides of the spectrum. It is a lonely position but one in which I have grown comfortable with. A typical example is abortion. I am pro choice which offends everyone who is pro life. However, I am against partial birth abortion, am okay with a 24 hour waiting period to have one, and am in favor of parental notification for minors. Needless to say pro choice purists are also eager unload their anger on me.

Down the line when asked my opinion I manage to irritate both sides. It is a lonely job but someone has to do it. Conservative on defense and liberal on education. It is fun

Samsonish

Sounds like you enjoy sitting on the fence, which is a good way to get a sore crotch, and just piss off most of the country.

Right-Wing Renegade...y'know, the kind of people who believe in freedom over oppression....

I'm an anarcho-capitalist Libertarian, in the tradition of Murray N. Rothbard.

Fascist meats Anarchist. I advocate enforcing a return to the early bronze age, with all the racial and political divisions that existed at the time. All technological progress beyond bronze will be discouraged, possibly with some kind of robot defense system. and no i'm not joking.

...Because a robot defense system fits in with the whole "bronze age technology only" philosophy.

What's this society possibly supposed to achieve? Someone discovers a cure for cancer. Well he'd better be good at running, the squad of hypocrisy-robots are already hot on his trail!

*Mimics artificial speech*
"Must... Destroy... All technology..."

Won't these killer robots seek and destroy themselves pretty quickly? I mean, if they're ordered to seek out the closest non-bronze age technology with their space-age technology sensors... Well they won't have far to look will they?