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Jurrasic Park, a dream? or future?

AeroSpaceCity
24-12-2004, 01:55
I'm making this thread for debate on if you think how jurrasic park could be made or not be made. You can just clearly state you dont think it will happen or you think it will. You can post against someone else's belief also. Post anytime.

I think it will be possible, but only if the design of the park would be safe enough. For example, in the movie the cercuit breaker was across the park from the bunker. If JP was real the breaker would be in the bunker and it would have an override switch or button that would activate all the breakers at once.

This is for people who are truely intelegent to talk about JP. If you think this is pointless you must be stupid.
Ytiniti
24-12-2004, 02:04
come on. your living in a fantasy world. stop worrying about the fence, worry about creating dinosaurs somehow out of nothing. first you have to get their DNA sequence all mapped out. the whole blood from the mosquito thing is all crap, the DNA would deteriate to much to make anything. If we had a full DNA sequence, then we could possibly make some dinos, but, getting that DNA would be tricky. And, those would probably not survive, as theres been 65 mil years of change on the earth, and they died out for a reason. Could well of been climate change, not the asteroid. so, you know, aint all that likely that youll get living dinosaurs. and if you did, well, well done i suppose.
Social Outcast-dom
24-12-2004, 02:07
Extremely unlikely. Not only would it be prohibitively expensive, but even if the endeavor succeeded, it would be fairly pointless. Just out of curiosity, have you read The Lost World? It fairly clearly outlines one of the biggest issues with a Jurassic Park-type situation. Bottom line is, as much as I would love to see a live dinosaur, there's too much in the way, and there's the fact that cloning doesn't work the way outlined in the novel.
Land of blood
24-12-2004, 02:35
Future. Not near future but I see it happening. I mean we have the brains to make it happen..what's stopping us..money, time..simple things I know. but someone will do it.. that I fear and know.
Zarbia
24-12-2004, 02:52
That would be cool but if anything went wrong...shit!
AeroSpaceCity
24-12-2004, 04:00
That would be cool but if anything went wrong...shit!

Yep, I agree. But I ask you this because I myself am a beliver trying to set things up even at my young age. Currently I work on building designs and park layout, then I will begin, when I am older, to pay for research of dinosaur DNA and finding ways to mimic or replace parts that are missing. And over time the dream will become real, I myself will not live forever, but the files will, in the hands of my family. I know it sounds like a dream, but I never let go of a dream, I will teach my children, when i have some, to belive just that. Anyways, my kids may end up in the same line of work im gonna do.
Kerubia
24-12-2004, 04:10
Not likely. DNA from ambered mosquitos is a fantasy. If it was true, Jurassic Park would've already been made.
Kerubia
24-12-2004, 04:11
That would be cool but if anything went wrong...shit!

No it wouldn't. A high powered rifle is all that's needed to bring down the biggies, and a shotgun or machine gun for the raptors.
Antogonist
24-12-2004, 04:29
That is so weird because I'm watching Jurassic Park right now...
Scolopendra
24-12-2004, 04:39
Rawr! I come to make opinions!

come on. your living in a fantasy world. stop worrying about the fence, worry about creating dinosaurs somehow out of nothing. first you have to get their DNA sequence all mapped out. the whole blood from the mosquito thing is all crap, the DNA would deteriate to much to make anything. If we had a full DNA sequence, then we could possibly make some dinos, but, getting that DNA would be tricky. And, those would probably not survive, as theres been 65 mil years of change on the earth, and they died out for a reason. Could well of been climate change, not the asteroid. so, you know, aint all that likely that youll get living dinosaurs. and if you did, well, well done i suppose.
The overall climate change was the asteroid, pretty much. Dust in atmosphere, nuclear winter, all that. Certain breeds of dinosaurs probably could thrive in modern equatorial biomes. Agreed, obtaining DNA may be tricky but it also need not be impossible. Nearly impossible, perhaps, but not totally.

Future. Not near future but I see it happening. I mean we have the brains to make it happen..what's stopping us..money, time..simple things I know. but someone will do it.. that I fear and know.
I agree. Never underestimate human ingenuity--someone may figure it out in the future, even if they just gengineer a probable dinosaur from scratch much like linguists engineer ancient languages from the motion of modern and old ones.

That would be cool but if anything went wrong...shit!
Like Kerubia said: T. rex vs. 44mm grenade launcher. Result--dead dino. While dinosaurs did "rule" the Earth for several million years, this is clamed simply because they were the biggest animals around and there was a wide variety of them. If we want to go by that arguement, ants have "ruled" the world since long before the dinosaurs and still rule today, in terms of biomass, internal variation, and species survivability. If a dinosaur park ever became a threat to human civilization (in the Jurassic Park sense of escape/island becomes untenable), one bomber filled with incendiary bombs could pretty much end said threat on an island and your local police force (12-gauge shotguns, solid slugs) could put the hurt on dinosaurs.

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AeroSpaceCity
24-12-2004, 06:08
Not likely. DNA from ambered mosquitos is a fantasy. If it was true, Jurassic Park would've already been made.

Not taking DNA from mosquitos to clone, but taking it to compare what would be missing and tweaking DNA of other reptiles and animals that could help make the creature a close enough match to create. The only problem, eggs, how would we make the correct animal without the egg? We could tweak an ostrich egg, but that would also take money, time, effort, and research, Something only I would understand and be able to obtain in my time.
Calm Minds
24-12-2004, 06:26
the problem is that amber form that long ago is the size of pebbles, you cannot get DNA of dinos at all there is none on the planet,

on that note the DNA could be useble in amber because it will protect it.

but there is none.

ok, is it posible, yes kinda, they most likely would not live after birth that long, humans has rased a goat in an iron womb and that is how they would do it, so yes it is possible but they need the DNA
Lunatic Goofballs
24-12-2004, 06:32
I suscribe to Ian Malcolm's opinion; Even if it can be done, doesn't mean it should.

People ask 'what if something goes wrong'? I would be truly stunned if nothing did. Mankind's track record for introducing new and hybrid species of insects and animals is not exactly glowing. With a species as complex as dinosaurs, 'something going wrong' approaches mathematical certainty.
Slaytanicca
24-12-2004, 06:40
on that note the DNA could be useble in amber because it will protect it.

but there is none.
I bet there's a handful of g-men who'd laugh their asses off if they heard that :D
AeroSpaceCity
24-12-2004, 06:46
In truth they have amber fossils that contain mosquitos from the prehistoric ages. A man did succesfully recreate dino DNA but his research was destroyed in a fire. He tried to recreate the DNA again but it wasn't a success because he lost the formulas to mix the right prehistoric DNA samples and current day DNA samples.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-12-2004, 06:47
In truth they have amber fossils that contain mosquitos from the prehistoric ages. A man did succesfully recreate dino DNA but his research was destroyed in a fire. He tried to recreate the DNA again but it wasn't a success because he lost the formulas to mix the right prehistoric DNA samples and current day DNA samples.

If he gets it right again, I bet you there'll be another fire too.
AeroSpaceCity
24-12-2004, 06:52
If he gets it right again, I bet you there'll be another fire too.

Yes... It seems god does not like us trying to create a jurrasic park.