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Define the Great Sins

Flanvel
23-12-2004, 02:39
I want people to define for me the greatest sins of the Bible. If you would please.
Flanvel
23-12-2004, 02:41
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Donutsia
23-12-2004, 02:58
Hell I'd say Killing is the greatest sin, but it happens every damn day. Christians throughout history have KILLED in the name of god, yet this is something he wouldn't want christians to do since it's a sin right? Right?! Then again in the bible god told Abraham to kill Issac, was this a test or was it a command? Or was in added to the bible to make it okay? Christianity is the greatest contradictory religion their is, but people still believe in it. I believe in it and I know the 10, but I still do a couple of them anyway. Questioning why we do what we know is wrong, causes a lot of :headbang: ow.
FutureExistence
23-12-2004, 03:08
I'm assuming by "great", you mean "large" rather than "wonderful".
The 10 commandments, as given in Exodus 20:1-17 (No other gods but God, no idolatry, no blasphemy, take a day off once a week, respect your parents, no murder, no adultery, no theft, no false accusation, no coveting (enviously desiring) other peoples stuff) is a pretty good indication of things that tick God off.
The worst sin is the one first prohibited in the list, that of having anything or anyone in the place that is rightfully due to God alone.
Overzealous Liberals
23-12-2004, 03:19
These are the seven "deadly" sins (copied directly from http://www.whitestonejournal.com/). Was this what you had in mind?

1. Pride
(contradicts the virtue Humility)
Seeing ourselves as we are and not comparing ourselves to others is humility. Pride and vanity are competitive. If someone else's pride really bothers you, you have a lot of pride.

2. Avarice/Greed
(contradicts the virtue Generosity)
This is about more than money. Generosity means letting others get the credit or praise. It is giving without having expectations of the other person. Greed wants to get its "fair share" or a bit more.

3. Envy
(contradicts the virtue Love)
"Love is patient, love is kind…" Love actively seeks the good of others for their sake. Envy resents the good others receive or even might receive. Envy is almost indistinguishable from pride at times.

4. Wrath/Anger
(contradicts the virtue Kindness)
Kindness means taking the tender approach, with patience and compassion. Anger is often our first reaction to the problems of others. Impatience with the faults of others is related to this.

5. Lust
(contradicts the virtue Self control)
Self control and self mastery prevent pleasure from killing the soul by suffocation. Legitimate pleasures are controlled in the same way an athlete's muscles are: for maximum efficiency without damage. Lust is the self-destructive drive for pleasure out of proportion to its worth. Sex, power, or image can be used well, but they tend to go out of control.

6. Gluttony
(conrtadicts the virtue Faith/Temperance)
Temperance accepts the natural limits of pleasures and preserves this natural balance. This does not pertain only to food, but to entertainment and other legitimate goods, and even the company of others.

7. Sloth
(contradicts the virtue Zeal0
Zeal is the energetic response of the heart to God's commands. The other sins work together to deaden the spiritual senses so we first become slow to respond to God and then drift completely into the sleep of complacency.

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Letila
23-12-2004, 03:30
I'd say evasion of responsibility. People usually find some way of justifying their evil (it's for the good of the country, I need that stereo, etc.) to get out of admitting to themselves that they chose to do it and have no one to blame but themselves. On the other hand, killing is pretty bad as it denies others freedom permanently, which is terrible and the ultimate form of oppression.
Keruvalia
23-12-2004, 03:38
I want people to define for me the greatest sins of the Bible. If you would please.

Murder, Adultery, and Idolatry seem to be the biggest.
Peechland
23-12-2004, 03:50
Hell I'd say Killing is the greatest sin, but it happens every damn day. Christians throughout history have KILLED in the name of god, yet this is something he wouldn't want christians to do since it's a sin right? Right?! Then again in the bible god told Abraham to kill Issac, was this a test or was it a command? Or was in added to the bible to make it okay? Christianity is the greatest contradictory religion their is, but people still believe in it. I believe in it and I know the 10, but I still do a couple of them anyway. Questioning why we do what we know is wrong, causes a lot of :headbang: ow.


which ones do you do :confused: :eek:
Donutsia
23-12-2004, 04:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donutsia
Hell I'd say Killing is the greatest sin, but it happens every damn day. Christians throughout history have KILLED in the name of god, yet this is something he wouldn't want christians to do since it's a sin right? Right?! Then again in the bible god told Abraham to kill Issac, was this a test or was it a command? Or was in added to the bible to make it okay? Christianity is the greatest contradictory religion their is, but people still believe in it. I believe in it and I know the 10, but I still do a couple of them anyway. Questioning why we do what we know is wrong, causes a lot of :headbang: ow.


which ones do you do :confused: :eek:

haha let's see:

I lie, I cheat, I steal, I've coveted, and I'm pretty sure I've blamed a lot of things on my sister to avoid punishment I'd get anyway, because a parent never believes the eldest child over the youngest,heh.
Peechland
23-12-2004, 04:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donutsia
Hell I'd say Killing is the greatest sin, but it happens every damn day. Christians throughout history have KILLED in the name of god, yet this is something he wouldn't want christians to do since it's a sin right? Right?! Then again in the bible god told Abraham to kill Issac, was this a test or was it a command? Or was in added to the bible to make it okay? Christianity is the greatest contradictory religion their is, but people still believe in it. I believe in it and I know the 10, but I still do a couple of them anyway. Questioning why we do what we know is wrong, causes a lot of :headbang: ow.




haha let's see:

I lie, I cheat, I steal, I've coveted, and I'm pretty sure I've blamed a lot of things on my sister to avoid punishment I'd get anyway, because a parent never believes the eldest child over the youngest,heh.


Arent you guys relieved that he/she didnt list murder? ;)
IronJustice
23-12-2004, 04:22
We don't think in terms of degree, it is immaterial. All that matters is that we have sinned, everyone, and need someone to pay for our sins. Accepting Jesus's gift is the only way. It doesn't matter what you have done in the past.
Donutsia
23-12-2004, 04:32
First off:
Peechland, your last post made me laugh even harder than the one before it. Nice wit with single sentence.

We don't think in terms of degree, it is immaterial. All that matters is that we have sinned, everyone, and need someone to pay for our sins. Accepting Jesus's gift is the only way. It doesn't matter what you have done in the past.

That in a nutshell is the solution, but the fact it's that easy is what has constantly made me question my religion. I guess I can't accept the fact it's that easy. I do accept Jesus and will always believe in him, yet I question the religion and most likely will always be haunted by that.

Edit: Crap I went off topic with an aside.

Alright another bad Sin:
Stealing. I've done it and hell have I felt bad about it. A dollar here, some food there, and a lot of random stuff. Stealing is so easy it's crazy, Think a giant speaker is hard to steal? Nope. Hell a big screen TV can be stolen if ya have the right man power.

This is a terrible Sin because of the Victim, just like murder. The Victim loses and sometimes it's really bad. After a friend got robbed of everything in his house, he sobbed uncontrollably for day. When I saw that I stopped stealing before I did a steal as bad as that. Damn I keep going off topic and talking about myself.

Alright Stealing is bad, almost as bad as murder, just not as permanent.
Peechland
23-12-2004, 04:40
First off:
Peechland, your last post made me laugh even harder than the one before it. Nice wit with single sentence.



That in a nutshell is the solution, but the fact it's that easy is what has constantly made me question my religion. I guess I can't accept the fact it's that easy. I do accept Jesus and will always believe in him, yet I question the religion and most likely will always be haunted by that.


thanks Donutsia.....thats fun to say.....*says Donutsia again*
Kryogenerica
23-12-2004, 05:24
Not that I'm a christian, but isn't there something about suicide because it denies the chance of redemption or somthing along that line? I suppose that could be considered self murder but I'm not sure it isn't different.

And just some queries vaguely to do with the topic - what is the difference between heresy and blasphemy? Which is worse? Is there a difference? I know I can get a dictionary definition easily enough, but I'm actually more interested in how they are seen by people who think about these things :D
Donutsia
23-12-2004, 05:43
Not that I'm a christian, but isn't there something about suicide because it denies the chance of redemption or somthing along that line? I suppose that could be considered self murder but I'm not sure it isn't different.

And just some queries vaguely to do with the topic - what is the difference between heresy and blasphemy? Which is worse? Is there a difference? I know I can get a dictionary definition easily enough, but I'm actually more interested in how they are seen by people who think about these things :D

To tell the truth I always thought they were the same thing.

Dictionary says Heresy is an opinion that is dissenting from the church. I guess that explains why Galileo was a Heretic.

What I thought Blasphemy was is what it is, it's stuff against the religion. Like, burning down a church or I guess sinning is blasphemy.

That's what I think of the two.
Kryogenerica
23-12-2004, 22:49
Thanks, D. That's roughly what I thought about heresy but I was under the impression that blasphemy was sort of like taking quotes out of context or deliberately misquoting or something...

Anybody else with any ideas/definitions?