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Well, now that my other thread has fallen to the third page...again...I might as well make the Marvel equivalent, out of all fairness. Mind you, this list consists primarily of the movie-incarnation of the X-Men; I'll leave it up to a more fervent Marvel fan to write the bad guys list and/or the lesser-known X-Folk.

And my apologies, there was no room for an "Other" option, so I'm afraid that if you've got a non-listed preference, you'll have to write it out yourself.

Favorite X-Man, of the ones on this list, is probably Nightcrawler with Wolverine in a close second. Of the ones not listed, either Beast or Colossus (yes, I know Collossus had an X2 cameo and Gambit didn't, but since Gambit seems to have a bigger deal in the TV show, I figured I'd stick him in. That and I forgot about Colossus entirely while making the poll :( ) would be my favorite.

personally, I've got a thing for Rogue, but I really like the way she is portrayed in the two recent movies

Peter Rasputin (Collossus) is my number 1.

Nightcrawler rocks!
He's the only Christian superhero that I've heard of so far. Also the teleportation is cool, so's his German accent, and the blue fur and tail are great as well.
Who's Marvel Girl?

Nightcrawler had blue skin. He's definately the coolest. Wolverine, yes a close second. Also, beast made something of a "cameo" in the first one. On a TV screen, what appeared to be a news program, it showed a gent and gave the name Hank McCoy.

I went with Nightcrawler, although Gambit would be a close second.

Gambit is by far the best X-man. I want Johnny Depp to play him in the new X-men movie.

Colossus nr1, Wolverine nr2

The worst is that douchebag that throws cards of fire. What the fuck is that?

Rogue. Yeah, I chose the cute one. Sue me.

Nightcrawler rocks!
He's the only Christian superhero that I've heard of so far. Also the teleportation is cool, so's his German accent, and the blue fur and tail are great as well.
Who's Marvel Girl?

Well, Beast also has blue fur...but no tail. I must have missed his cameo in X2, I'll have to check again--he rocks.

And Marvel Girl is the comic book alias of Jean Grey (like Storm is the alias of Ororo Munroe). In the comic books, the presence of Sentinels necessitated the use of code names; apparently, Fox forewent (is that a word?) Jean's code name because it made too obvious a reference to Marvel Comics, I suppose.

The worst is that douchebag that throws cards of fire. What the fuck is that?

Well, the thing about Gambit is that he can accelerate the atoms of any solid to the point of ignition/explosion. So, in a nutshell, he's a human grenade factory with a liking to playing cards. But he's cool with a staff.

Colossus. But out of all X-men characters, Magneto.

Still, fire cards, that one comes straight out of left field.

Professor Xavier. If only because he was played by Patrick Stewart. :D

Well, Beast also has blue fur...but no tail. I must have missed his cameo in X2, I'll have to check again--he rocks.

And Marvel Girl is the comic book alias of Jean Grey (like Storm is the alias of Ororo Munroe). In the comic books, the presence of Sentinels necessitated the use of code names; apparently, Fox forewent (is that a word?) Jean's code name because it made too obvious a reference to Marvel Comics, I suppose.

Well, the thing about Gambit is that he can accelerate the atoms of any solid to the point of ignition/explosion. So, in a nutshell, he's a human grenade factory with a liking to playing cards. But he's cool with a staff.
Thanks, I did know about Marvel Girl really, then.
Do you remember why sometimes, in the comics, Beast doesn't have blue fur, just normal skin, but still has big hands and feet? This was true in the very first X-men comics, but I can't recall the reason given for the change.

Still, fire cards, that one comes straight out of left field.

Well it's because he likes to gamble. He could just as easily throw fire squirrels or fire dildos.

Still, fire cards, that one comes straight out of left field.
Fire anything.

Which does bring up some interesting possibilities (ie ignitioning a persons epidermis)

Still, fire cards, that one comes straight out of left field.
Yeah, that's true. Kind of out of the blue. Then again, so are a lot of things in the comic book world, right?

Ehhh, I don't like comic books anyway.

Gambit...he can make a weapon out of anything, followed by nightcrawler.....but that is how i c it......gambit is just a gambler from new orleans.....so he has a thing for playing cards......the staff rox0rz.....i think he would play one kickass dodgeball game though :-D

Well it's because he likes to gamble. He could just as easily throw fire squirrels or fire dildos.
Throwing flaming dildos would be kind of cool.

You forgot Jean Grey.

You forgot Jean Grey.

Jean Grey is Marvel Girl.

i think he would play one kickass dodgeball game though :-D
Heck, yeah. Oh, that reminds me: I had an idea for a really funny Internet comic--X-Men Play Hardcore Capture-the-Flag. Lame, I know, but I think it'd be really cool to watch.

Professor Charles Xavier.

...and nobody should really be surprised that someone with a screen name of "Cogitation" would choose the intellectual. :p ;)

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."

Well it's because he likes to gamble. He could just as easily throw fire squirrels or fire dildos.


lmao

The target would probably be sobbing and shouting, "PLEASE!! IT'S SUCH AN UN-DIGNIFIED WAY TO DIE!! JUST DECAPITATE ME OR SOMETHING!!"

I would have said Shadowcat if I had known that Nightcrawler was so stacked. Collosas(sp) is a big favorite (they had him and Wolverine in a long hallway with a bunch of bad guys at the end and they didn't do a fastball special? Dammit.)

Troubled X-Men are the best X-Men. Except Wolverine. That dudes just milkin' it.

Still, fire cards, that one comes straight out of left field.


Well, so does Rogue sucking the life out of everything.

You know, if Nightcrawler and Shadowcat were together, there's be no place on Earth they couldn't get to.

Nightcrawler is the BEST! :eek:
I mean why walk when you can just teleport anywhere?

Shadowcat is cute though and the walking through walls or people could be fun also.

Gambit, COME ON! He is the best.

I've got two favorites. I've loved Nightcrawler since I was two years old, and when he debut'ed in 1994, Chamber became my second favorite. Even if Chamber was from Generation X. Then he became an X-Man. And then he was put into the ressurected Weapon X Project.

My favorite X-men char. is probably "X-Man" though he isn't actually in the movie :( he was in the comic series

My favorite X-men char. is probably "X-Man" though he isn't actually in the movie :( he was in the comic series

Yeah, Nate Grey was pretty cool.

Nightcrawler rocks!
He's the only Christian superhero that I've heard of so far. Also the teleportation is cool, so's his German accent, and the blue fur and tail are great as well.
Who's Marvel Girl?

Christian? German? hmm seen that mix before...

I figured that Wolverine would do better, but I'm happy to see that Nightcrawler has a significant lead. :D

Where's Beast though? :confused:

Christian? German? hmm seen that mix before...
Where?

Thanks, I did know about Marvel Girl really, then.
Do you remember why sometimes, in the comics, Beast doesn't have blue fur, just normal skin, but still has big hands and feet? This was true in the very first X-men comics, but I can't recall the reason given for the change.
It was because he was critically injured in battle, and Jean Grey and Professor X had to operate on him with an experimental procedure being used someplace far away. It saved his life, but ended up turning his hair blue.

Christian? German? hmm seen that mix before...
Did he have blue fur and a tail?

It was because he was critically injured in battle, and Jean Grey and Professor X had to operate on him with an experimental procedure being used someplace far away. It saved his life, but ended up turning his hair blue.
Ahhhh . . .
I assume that by "turning his hair blue", you are also referring to the substantial hair growth all over his body. He wasn't furry in the first X-men comics, just kinda chunky.

Don't remember him being THAT hairy; maybe it was just the fact he was a mutant? Either way, I don't remember him growing extra hair as a result of the procedure, but then again, the procedure WAS being tested on monkeys...

Don't remember him being THAT hairy; maybe it was just the fact he was a mutant? Either way, I don't remember him growing extra hair as a result of the procedure, but then again, the procedure WAS being tested on monkeys...

Actually, Beast was originally the quarterback for his high school football team -- his big hands and feet and agility, along with intelligence, were his mutations.

He actually gained the blue fur as part of an experiment gone wrong he did while he was with the Avengers -- like all comic book scientists, he ended up testing his formula on himself with the result being blue fur and fangs.

*sigh* Yes, it's true, I'm an X-Men geek.

Actually, Beast was originally the quarterback for his high school football team -- his big hands and feet and agility, along with intelligence, were his mutations.

He actually gained the blue fur as part of an experiment gone wrong he did while he was with the Avengers -- like all comic book scientists, he ended up testing his formula on himself with the result being blue fur and fangs.
Hmm...must be one of those comic book contradictions; the Tomorrow People comics have it different, but you're probably right.

Hmm...must be one of those comic book contradictions; the Tomorrow People comics have it different, but you're probably right.

Marvel never contradicts its---

*watches Marvel rewrite itself*

--er, carry on.

I always loved Nightcrawler.

Yeah, he's awesome. I can't wait to see if he learns to swashbuckle in the third movie.

Definitely Gambit.

He's power to accelerate the particles of an object is cool. There was this one alternate universe episode, where his powers went out of control and he could accelerate all particles, including people. I think at the end, he exploded the earth.

However for the next X-men Movie, I would love to see an arc about Apocalypse, and then we'll have Cable, Archangel, The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. WOOT! :D

We need a mutant badguy this time! I hope it's Apocalypse, or Mr. Sinister.

Plus, we haven't seen the introduction of the sentinels yet though. And with Marvel Girl dead, does this mean we would see Pheonix earlier? (Shi-ar perhaps? Hope not).

Well, there's lots of speculation about Phoenix appearing in the next movie. A comic-book buddy of mine, though, says that there's traditionally a one-movie "grace period" for the significant other (in this case, Cyclops and/or Wolverine) to mourn before bringing back the loved one.

I voted Gambit. I have no idea who that is, but it's just such a great word.

Hmmm....

Deffo Nightcrawler.......No......Gambit.....(Is he having intimaite knowledge of Rogue....?....).....Hang on.....Wolverine......Maybe......Pyro.......What bout Toad....?....He was great in X-men1.....


STill got a thing for Storm, though.....



I.P. Knightly

Prime Minister....

I'm gonna vote for gambit. He is cool, and his name appeared in the second one. Considering lots of people missed beasts cameo in X-Men 2, I wonder how many spotted his name?

BTW, where the hell is Beast in this poll?

And where is the rock ?

Terribly sorry, but as I said, I completely forgot about Beast and Colossus. My humble apologies; I'm afraid you'll have to vote for Beast via post.

You mentioned none.

Multiple Man
Dead Pool
Havok
X-Man

Well, there's lots of speculation about Phoenix appearing in the next movie. A comic-book buddy of mine, though, says that there's traditionally a one-movie "grace period" for the significant other (in this case, Cyclops and/or Wolverine) to mourn before bringing back the loved one.


But the movie is a trilogy. It's a standard 3 act play (think the original Star Wars).

Act/Movie 1. Introduces the characters, and has them reach a peak story Arc.

Act/Movie 2. Continues the story arc, and has the characters experience a great loss.

Act/Movie 3. Completes the story arc. Has the characters experience redemption and the completion of their mission.

Pheonix will definately be in the 3rd movie. Though, she likely won't show up unitl near the end.

Gambit won my vote

But the movie is a trilogy. It's a standard 3 act play (think the original Star Wars).

Act/Movie 1. Introduces the characters, and has them reach a peak story Arc.

Act/Movie 2. Continues the story arc, and has the characters experience a great loss.

Act/Movie 3. Completes the story arc. Has the characters experience redemption and the completion of their mission.

Pheonix will definately be in the 3rd movie. Though, she likely won't show up unitl near the end.
she'll definitely show up. At the end of the 2nd one, you see a phoenix form in the water where she 'drowned'.
Also, all the actors were contracted for a 3 movie deal, and now that Hugh has become so popular I doubt he'll want to be back for a 4th. I read somewhere that Haile Berry is adamant she doen't want to return. Even if they did want to be in another movie, now that they're both big stars they'll want a helluva lot more money, which might cost the studios too much to consider.
I hope Colossus is in the 3rd one more. They'd be dumb not to put him in. I saw it twice at the movies and the 2 second scene of him changing to armour and punching the guy through the wall got the biggest cheer both times. The younger kids just thought it was awesome. The older kids (like myself) did too, but that's by-the-by.
I also couldn't understand why wolverine didn't want Colossus's help? Here's a metal guy that's invulerable and super-strong offering to help punch out a bunch of army guys! Bloody oath I would accept his offer!

Having a bulletproof bodyguard for the younger mutants made more sense in that situation.
I always liked Wolvie, so i voted for him. But my fave still is Beast, in his blue incarnation. The first, more or less human, was terrible.

But Woverine was the only adult in the house at the time. It was his responsibility to make sure the kids all got out okay, and he knew that some had already been captured. His options were to abondon the captured kids and lead the rest out, or get collossus (who he knew could whoop some poor army sods ass if it came to it) to lead the kids to safety while he went after the captured ones.

It was totally in character for him to make that decision. Especially considering his inferiority complex with Scott. He was totally trying to 'be the leader' and 'save the day' making 'just the right critical decision' in that scene. It just happened to back-fire a little (that he couldn't make it to the captured kids).

Colossus is certainly more than welcome in the 3rd movie. But I have to say, the scene just before it, where the Canuckle'Head puts his claws through the soldiers chest (and the fridge behind him) got a MUCH bigger cheer in the theatre I was in. Of course, I went to midnight showings, so there weren't any 'little' kiddlings. Being the sick sick bastard I am, I cheered the most when he slit that dudes achilles tendons. I mean, that's just mean.

Yeah that was a good bit too.
I was very impressed with the makers of the movie. They really put effort into thiking of scenes that would appeal to the different target audiences. Like Hank McCoy's cameo (appeals to the X-Men geeks like myself - who used to have every issue from 108 to 300. :( Damn leaky roof <sob>).
Another big reaction was when Wolvie and the others got to the garage and saw all the awesome cars. No reason for so many cars to be there except good advertising and knowing all the boys in the audience would think it's cool.

anybody care to give a wee small explanation of the whole phoenix/storm thing to me? never read the comics but saw the cartoons on tv - (watched them a lot!) and saw the movies too...
:confused: :confused:

i'm confused!!

Throwing flaming dildos would be kind of cool.

tho id like to see the burning squirrels

anybody care to give a wee small explanation of the whole phoenix/storm thing to me? never read the comics but saw the cartoons on tv - (watched them a lot!) and saw the movies too...
:confused: :confused:

i'm confused!!
I think you mean "Phoenix/Marvel Girl." I vaguely remember the way it works...well, okay, not really. Either way, I'd rather not risk mangling the mythos, so I'll leave somebody else to write that.

Leaky roof? Dang. That really sucks, dude. Destruction knows no value.

Gambit pwns... Even if he is Southern.

[QUOTE=Social Outcast-dom]I think you mean "Phoenix/Marvel Girl."

indeed i do! meh, not paying attention to nething...got damien rice on an it takes effort not to get depressed from it!!

I think you mean "Phoenix/Marvel Girl." I vaguely remember the way it works...well, okay, not really. Either way, I'd rather not risk mangling the mythos, so I'll leave somebody else to write that.

Leaky roof? Dang. That really sucks, dude. Destruction knows no value.
Whooo, going back a long way and showing my geekiness here:
In some of the first issues Chris Claremont wrote for the X-Men (and before John Byrne started drawing) some of the new X-Men (Wolverine, Colossus, Banshee, Nightcrawler, cyclops, Marvel girl, Havoc) were captured by the Sentinels (robots whose sole purpose is to destroy mutants) and taken up into space onto their space station.
The rest who weren't captured took a ride aboard a space shuttle and rescued them. Unfortunately the shuttle cockpit got damaged and Marvel girl (Jean Grey) flew it back using her powers to seal the hole while the others were in the shielded section. Of course they flew thru a solar storm that changed Marvel girl. They crashed into the sea and she arose from the sinking wreckage reborn as Pheonix. The solar radiation changed her and multiplied her abilities thousand fold.
Over the next 30 or so issues she became more and more powerful and the power slowly corrupted her, turning her into the Dark Pheonix. Professor X implanted some safety switches in her mind so she couldn't use all her powers (and so wouldn't be corrupted). Unfortunately the Hellfire club - a band of mutants whose aim is to control business and government - kidnapped her and one of them who could manipulate reality (can't remember his name now, but it was the same guy as in the 2nd movie) made her believe she was living in the 18th century and loved him, not Scott.
In the end she broke free of his 'reality', but in so doing destroyed the safety switches holding back all her power. She became Dark Pheonix again and started destroying stars and planets.
There was a big battle between the X-Men and her, and eventually she subcumbed and Xavier re-installed the switches, making her Marvel Girl again. However the alien civilisation whose planets she'd destroyed came seeking vengance and another big battle ensued between their champions and the X-Men. This time the X-men lost, until it was just down to Marvel Girl and Cyclops. During the final battle, she became Dark Pheonix again, but took control long enough to kill herself.
Best period of the X-Men those few years.

Jump forward a few years, and obviously sagging comic sales, so Marvel had the bright idea of ruining the whole story and had the Avengers finding the crashed shuttle. They find a cocoon, which they break open to find Marvel Girl in perfect health. 'Apparently' when she was flying the shuttle down, an ET creature (pheonix) was drawn to her noble sacrifice and sealed her in a cocoon until all the radiation she suffered on the way down was cured and then took her form.
:rolleyes:

My god. I haven't read those for maybe ten years, and there's only one bit I can't remember (the reality guy's name. Starts with 'M'). Truly sad geek here.

Mainstream mutants, boooooooring. How about Cable (jean and Scott's son from the future)? Or LongShot (the most underrated mutant of all time). Domino would be a good clash against mystique on the big screen. And how about an X-Men movie in Mojo World. At least give us a glimpse of the Shi'ar Empire in the 3rd one.

Phoenix or not, there'd better be some cool new mutants in the next film. And that's all I have to say...for now...

The Beast, Hank McCoy. I'm hoping we'll see more than a glimpse of him in the next flick.

Nightcrawler by far. He did what none of us would ever do. Kill the President. And bamfing is cool.

In Reply To #70

Yes, indeedy. Question is, what color Rogaine will he have been using?

I wonder, though, will there be any new villains? Magneto's had some time in the sun, but whether he's had enough to have him pulled from the front-line spot again is going to be tricky.

Pheonix is probably going to be the villain in the 3rd movie. But that's just me.

Oh, and another question: what do you think will happen between Iceman and Rogue? Will they kill off one of the two and stick the other in mourning (like having Rogue suck the life out of Iceman in the throes of passion), or have them live happily ever after in a sterile (or very Bubble-Boy-esque) relationship?

Oh, and another question: what do you think will happen between Iceman and Rogue? Will they kill off one of the two and stick the other in mourning (like having Rogue suck the life out of Iceman in the throes of passion), or have them live happily ever after in a sterile (or very Bubble-Boy-esque) relationship?
Surely they could still have sex, as long as Iceman is wearing a condom, or perhaps Rogue could wear a femdom. Obviously only doggy style to make sure flesh contact is minimal.

I just had a thought - I wonder if in the third movie, they'll get Rogue to either suck Pheonix's power (obvious story-line) or get her to suck all of the X-Men's combined powers to make her more powerful than Pheonix (not so obvious)? That'll be cool.

Gambit is my favourite. Although I didn't like it in the comics/cartoons how they almost always restricted his powers to the cards. There were cases where he exploded other stuff, but that wasn't too common.

He would have been much more effective if he'd just filled his coat pockets with ball bearings or something like that.

Surely they could still have sex, as long as Iceman is wearing a condom, or perhaps Rogue could wear a femdom. Obviously only doggy style to make sure flesh contact is minimal.

I just had a thought - I wonder if in the third movie, they'll get Rogue to either suck Pheonix's power (obvious story-line) or get her to suck all of the X-Men's combined powers to make her more powerful than Pheonix (not so obvious)? That'll be cool.
Well, sure they could make love, but they'd have to restrict flesh contact overall, and they'd be unable to have children by any passionate means (unless Iceman builds up a high enough resistance to Rogue's power to make love without cover, but that's extremely unlikely).

As for Rogue sucking all of the X-Men's combined powers...dang. She'd end up being either a walking tank or the equivalent of a vegetable from all of the powers she'd have to control.

personally, I like Psylocke... hope they bring her back. Yeah I know she died... but X-men have come back from the dead before...

personally, I like Psylocke... hope they bring her back. Yeah I know she died... but X-men have come back from the dead before...
Well, you know the rule in comic books: no body, no death. Well, not permanently, anyway...and in Green Arrow's case, even atomization didn't stop Hal Jordan from resurrecting him. What will they think of next?

my favorite member is my penis

Dude, no "Beast" option? Lame.

Nightcrawler was my favorite character when I got into Marvel in 1991. I would now have to say the coolest comic character ever is Venom, by far. If I was just limiting it to the X-men, Psylock all the way.

Dude, no "Beast" option? Lame.
I know, I know, I'm profoundly sorry, but I forgot Beast and Colossus entirely.