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I'm curious to see what foreignerspeople from other countries think of the United States of America. (i live in the u.s.) post please

It's much fun--and I live there. As such, I like the US much.

I'm in the US. Ergo, it rules.

This is sure to start a flame war. Anyway, It rocks--except for that deer-in-the-headlights President we have. To all the Europeans with unfavorable views of America--try to draw a distinction between the people and the government. We're mostly nice people...kinda sorta

I think that there's already a thread about this: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7768921#post7768921 :rolleyes:

I'm an Englishman, but I've lived in the U.S. (for four years in total, 5th grade and grades 9-11).
The U.S. is big. REALLY big. It also has about 290 million people, and I don't know how to have one opinion that encompasses 290 million people, who clearly disagree with each other in just about every way possible.
I like freedom of speech, fair trials, care for the poor, economic opportunities, all of which exist in the U.S. to a degree.
I'm not sure the U.S. government knows how to deal with being the only world superpower (China's not quite there yet). They've always had Communism to stand up to (well, since the 50's anyway), and militant Islam doesn't work as a neat substitute.

I'm not sure the U.S. government knows how to deal with being the only world superpower (China's not quite there yet). They've always had Communism to stand up to (well, since the 50's anyway), and militant Islam doesn't work as a neat substitute.
Good point.

I think that there's already a thread about this: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7768921#post7768921 :rolleyes:

aaah you ALMOST got me there bud, but that thread says "what do you think about americans and why?" mine says "what do you think of america ?" nice try, though

America is a nation, in which Americans are found. ;)

No, I don't mind Americans, all the "dirty, fat, sloppy" stuff is the work of stereotyping.

However, I do mind the fact that the only superpower in the world is led by Bush, who is not the greatest of Presidents to say the least.

I'm curious to see what foreigners think of the United States of America. Dirty? Sloppy? FAT???! post please (I live in the U.S.)

Well citizen of the US can be rude, epsecially when they go on a world wide forum and call people who live outside the US foreigners.

Well citizen of the US can be rude, epsecially when they go on a world wide forum and call people who live outside the US foreigners.

i'm sorry...lay off me please i'm only 13.

p.s. what's the definition of foreignor?

i'm sorry...lay off me please i'm only 13.

p.s. what's the definition of foreignor?
someone who lives outside of your respective country.

Yeah that whole fat, sloppy thing is just stupid. Spend a day in the US and you will find I am right.

Well citizen of the US can be rude, epsecially when they go on a world wide forum and call people who live outside the US foreigners.

He's asking people who are foriegn to the United States what they think of the country. Quit trying to portray him as an arrogant American.

He's asking people who are foriegn to the United States what they think of the country. Quit trying to portray him as an arrogant American.

thanks (i changed it anyway because i felt shut down)

she not he

Well citizen of the US can be rude, epsecially when they go on a world wide forum and call people who live outside the US foreigners.

To us you are a foreigner, to you we are foreigners, what is your point? People who dont live in your country are foreigners, no ifs, ands, or buts. You cant say well I dont like to call them that because who cares? That is what they are. You are a foreigner. End of story.

He's asking people who are foriegn to the United States what they think of the country. Quit trying to portray him as an arrogant American.

I do not recall that I refered to him as being arrogant.

thanks (i changed it anyway because i felt shut down)

she not he

Change it back, dont give that guy the satisfaction!

thanks (i changed it anyway because i felt shut down)

she not he

She, sorry.


I do not recall that I refered to him as being arrogant.

Rude, arrogant, whatever, you were trying to be a jerk.

people fighting just because i put foreigners. i'm about to pee my pants i'm laughing so hard. keep the fights going, guys.

I do not recall that I refered to him as being arrogant.

Yeah but you might as well have said it, you go around saying "US citizens can be rude, look he just called us foreigners, oh dear!" What would you like us to call you? Maybe she should have wrote "What do Asians, Africans, Australians, Europeans, North and South Americans, Antarcticans think of America?" No you are a foreigner, its nothing bad, that is just the catagory you are in.

The US is a good place to make some money, but I wouldnt want to spend my whole life there. Rampant capitalism is nice in the short term, but over the long range, the whole he who has the most toys wins mentality never brings happiness.

I think the United States is, like every other place on this planet, swamped and disorganized. I can't do anything to fix it,though, so I'm not complaining.

U.S. has some minor flaws, but is doing a wonderful job at promoting freedom and democracy throughout the world.

SOme americans can be a bit arrogent, mind.

I have a file on one American from a forum I used to go on:

The United States does not, and NEVER has, needed a permission slip from the UN to defend our National security. Our fate is in the hands of NO ONE ELSE. We are not subject to the whims of such countries as N. Korea, Libya, Saudi Arabia, England, france, Germany, ect., ect., who have no concern for US well being. You don’t give a four year old the “keys’ to a nuclear submarine.

The United States IS bigger and better, and no other country CAN stand in our way, because of which we are envied the world over. The freedom and prosperity of the US is unequaled anywhere else in the world, and the product of this unequaled freedom is unequaled power. We have the strongest and most advanced military in the world, the most advanced and available medicines, the most controlled government, the most widespread wealth, opportunity, safety, success, equality, and so forth. We have no need or obligation to discuss, justify, or gain permission from anyone else for any of our actions. We have, by the rules of nature, no obligation, as the strongest lion in the proverbial pride, to heed the whimpers of the weaker, to restrain ourselves from taking what we want when we want it and killing all who slightly annoy us. We have the power to do all of these things, and yet we hold our tremendous might in check for we have chosen to abide by far higher rules, the Laws of the God who lead us to such greatness. We send aid to thousands of countries that are oppressed by their inferior governments, we have global missionary operations; war torn lands we rebuild. We have engaged in no conquests, and when our allies were in need of help, we came. This is what truly makes us great, our regard for life, liberty, and morality, and with this greatness we pursue ALL who threaten it (as it was threatened on Sept. 11, 2001). The rest of the world’s priority is not the safety of the US, and it shouldn’t be. However, it is the priority of our President, which is why we engage in whatever actions are necessary to ensure it. We didn’t get to be the richest and the best by obeying those who would do us harm.

There is a world order, and the US has EARNED its position at the top. Every country, people, creed, ect., if founded upon the enduring Values that are our bedrock, has the opportunity , ability, and right to rise, also, to our height. This is the attitude of a free people. Hierarchy makes no such provision

You have accused me of being tribalistic and arrogent, and yet I have broken no rules and have made no threats (shall I quote your threat to request me banned from this forum? Your "wrath" isn't worth my concern. We Americans did away hierarchy long ago.). I have, instead, merely presented conflicting views to which you have been unable to either counter with evidence or respond civily. I could go on to accuse you of being bias, deleteing only that with which you don't agree (or couldn't refute) and not that which I find offensive, but I am above responding in kind. If one is going to present a strong opinion on a public forum, one should expect to be challenged by others of opposing views, and when they are, should be able to respond intellegently without resorting to emotional outbursts and erratic accusations. I have encountered too many people who, when confronted with rational arguments and ideas that make them uncomfortable, can think of nothing else to do but make fun of someone or something. I have no desire to demean ( inaccurate viewpoints held by others do that well enough), only a desire to discuss civilly (and humorously) with those on the opposite side.

Yes, facts can be quite offensive at times, especailly for those who have already made up their minds and don't wish to be further confused with facts.

If it weren't for the US "you would all be running around saying '' Heil, Hitler!"

Yes, we did use the English language for a while, but then we enveted our own language! It's called American.

I take that back. We all know who won the Reviolution and World War II.




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on Nov 6th, 2004, 11:19pm, Pippa wrote:
What on earth is a ploe? I have found two articles (produced by americans) comparing IQs of voters. YOu cannot deny their existence.


That doesn't mean he got the most votes.


Over four million? But the population of the USA is almost 295 million. What about the other 291 million? What do they want?


That's what you think of democrats? Is that what you think of democracy? Is that what you think about everyone having a fair say? Is that what you think about equality?


If you think that's what vegans do then you are way mistaken. I think you will actually find that many people on this forum would value my opinion much more than yours. I don't want your pity; I want you to see sense.


I wouldn't use an american map to look at these results. I can tell you I paid more attention to the BBC election map in the hours after the election than is probably healthy.

To be honest, if you are the voter of tomorrow there isn't going to be one. You stupid, self centred, egotistical, capitalist country doesn't give a damn about the rest of the world. You don't care how many Iraqis you've mutilated, killed and made homeless. You don't don't care about the people working in Asian sweatshops. No, just so long as your isolated, safe, middle class, american family, in your suburban house in Washington State is OK you don't give a damn about anyone else.

I bet you don't have close family in the military, because then you would realise how incorrect that war was.








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Before I will consider the any pole on IQ, I first have to see where they are from.

Pippa, don't give me your vegan-speech. Your an air-headed European version of a hippy. I know plenty of vegans. That is what they do.

Pippa, it certainly DOES mean he got the most votes. Hello!! Do you know the definition of POPULAR? And even if he DIDN"T win the POPULAR vote, it is the ELECTORAL vote that decides the winner. That is int he Constistution. I've had this little descussion with Sirius; would you like the full vesion?

"Democratic" is a political party of the US, on that is no longer intersted in Democracy but in government controled Socialism, the flop system of Europe and much of Asia. It is because of US democrats' socialist stands that America voted them out of power. Americans take care of themselves, fight the good fight, and don't want government invading their property, bedrooms, kitchens, and bathrooms with socialist nonsense. Americans say " each of you has the power to be successful; go out and be someone. Be better and better with each generation." Government produces nothing. WE do. And America knows this. We don't whine adout being victims. That's why we are the best. And because we are the best , wheenies like you hate us. It's lonely at the top, but at the top we are, and we are not moving.

You're foolishness is appauling! You advise me to look at a EUROPEAN map for AMERICAN election results?! No wonder you are so off your nut! Our media is socialist enough; I can't even imagin how bad a socialist country's socialist media is!

Nope, we don't give a dm about the rest of the world's OPINIONS. Do we care about the lives of innocent people around the world? Yes, more than any other country on the face of the earth. If we did not, then American blood wouldn't be in the soil of England, Holland, france, Germany, Poland, the Pacific Islands, Africa, Central America, Afganistan, Kuwait, Bosnia, Irag, ect. ECT!
You ( I won't say the English because I do not believe you are representative of them; one of our family's best friends works with many a noble English soldier in Iraq right now) don't care about the thousands of children who were released from Saddam's prisons, broken and mutilated from spending their childhood in torture chambers, you don't care about the tens of thousands of women who were raped, tortured and murdered by that hidious creature and his sons, you don't care about the hundreds of thousands of men, women and children that were brutalized for generations, torture by the deliberate amputation of arms, legs, hands, feet, noses, ears, genitels, eyes and fingers, ect. you
care nothing for the families rent usunder, you spit upon the mass graves of thousands who will never be identified. You slander my countrymen AND your countrymen who have fallen, far from homes and families, for the freedom of a people they have never met. You mock the men women and children who rejoice to have their freedom. Boys and girls in Afganistan and Iraq can attend games without having to first wittness the exicution if their mothers on the same field. You slander the character of those who have engaged in acts of nobility that mystify a parasite such as yourself. You have no honor, no dignity, no respect, and no aspiration for anything higher than yourself. I will hold nothing back in me denunciation of your cowardice for you have tred not only on me, but on generations and generation of the bravest blood. How arrogent you are to assume that I have no one close to me fighting even now! Two friends of ours, one extremey close, are not going to be here for Christmas because they are in Iraq, Both of my grandfathers were in the United States Navy, one who was deployed to the Pacific during WWII. My uncle was a Cobra pilot, my brother's best friend has just joined the United States Airforce, and my only brother, currently in the Civil Air Patrol, is soon to be joining either the Army or the National Guard. Our neighbors, who we have lived next two for nearly 16 years and who are better than family, also have military relitives and friends. You have slandered them.
Our family friend, a soon-to-be Leutinant-Colonal, even now in Iraq (Mosul) does not agree with your almost blasphemous claim that Americans and our Allies are a plauge to the Iraqis. He has numerous accounts of Iraqi gratitude, help, friendship, success, hopfulness, and recovery from Saddam's evil tyrany. He is far more an authority than you, my dear pippa, and your hateful, yes HATEFUL, rantings and cowardly lies will never change that. Freedom, justice, truth, honor, unselfishness, and America are unwavering realities. America has stood against greater tempests than the lies of an ungrateful generation, let alone you.
One more thing, unlke Europe, America is stll mostly rural, and in one of these rural place my family and I make our home. Sorry to disappoint you, but we are not suburban.


Although a few good points came through, note the arrogence radiating through a lot of it. She landed herself in a massive debate over these. What do you think?

U.S. has some minor flaws, but is doing a wonderful job at promoting freedom and democracy throughout the world.
By imprisoning people, or telling them how to vote?

The US is a good place to make some money, but I wouldnt want to spend my whole life there. Rampant capitalism is nice in the short term, but over the long range, the whole he who has the most toys wins mentality never brings happiness.

Thats not how it is here. Capitalism has worked very well. Its not like they rule us by the way, when John Rockefeller owned 96% of the US' oil, the govt. made him split it up just so he wouldnt have a a monopoly like that. Monopolys are illegal in the US you know.

My view of americans is largely based upon two programmes- rich girls and the simple life. So, my view of America is that the rich are conceited idiots, unable to comprehend anything that doesn't directly affect them while the working and middle classes seem pretty sound, except if you're gay or a muslim.

SOme americans can be a bit arrogent, mind.

I have a file on one American from a forum I used to go on:



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on Nov 6th, 2004, 11:19pm, Pippa wrote:
What on earth is a ploe? I have found two articles (produced by americans) comparing IQs of voters. YOu cannot deny their existence.


That doesn't mean he got the most votes.


Over four million? But the population of the USA is almost 295 million. What about the other 291 million? What do they want?


That's what you think of democrats? Is that what you think of democracy? Is that what you think about everyone having a fair say? Is that what you think about equality?


If you think that's what vegans do then you are way mistaken. I think you will actually find that many people on this forum would value my opinion much more than yours. I don't want your pity; I want you to see sense.


I wouldn't use an american map to look at these results. I can tell you I paid more attention to the BBC election map in the hours after the election than is probably healthy.

To be honest, if you are the voter of tomorrow there isn't going to be one. You stupid, self centred, egotistical, capitalist country doesn't give a damn about the rest of the world. You don't care how many Iraqis you've mutilated, killed and made homeless. You don't don't care about the people working in Asian sweatshops. No, just so long as your isolated, safe, middle class, american family, in your suburban house in Washington State is OK you don't give a damn about anyone else.

I bet you don't have close family in the military, because then you would realise how incorrect that war was.



Before I will consider the any pole on IQ, I first have to see where they are from.

Pippa, don't give me your vegan-speech. Your an air-headed European version of a hippy. I know plenty of vegans. That is what they do.

Pippa, it certainly DOES mean he got the most votes. Hello!! Do you know the definition of POPULAR? And even if he DIDN"T win the POPULAR vote, it is the ELECTORAL vote that decides the winner. That is int he Constistution. I've had this little descussion with Sirius; would you like the full vesion?

"Democratic" is a political party of the US, on that is no longer intersted in Democracy but in government controled Socialism, the flop system of Europe and much of Asia. It is because of US democrats' socialist stands that America voted them out of power. Americans take care of themselves, fight the good fight, and don't want government invading their property, bedrooms, kitchens, and bathrooms with socialist nonsense. Americans say " each of you has the power to be successful; go out and be someone. Be better and better with each generation." Government produces nothing. WE do. And America knows this. We don't whine adout being victims. That's why we are the best. And because we are the best , wheenies like you hate us. It's lonely at the top, but at the top we are, and we are not moving.

You're foolishness is appauling! You advise me to look at a EUROPEAN map for AMERICAN election results?! No wonder you are so off your nut! Our media is socialist enough; I can't even imagin how bad a socialist country's socialist media is!

Nope, we don't give a dm about the rest of the world's OPINIONS. Do we care about the lives of innocent people around the world? Yes, more than any other country on the face of the earth. If we did not, then American blood wouldn't be in the soil of England, Holland, france, Germany, Poland, the Pacific Islands, Africa, Central America, Afganistan, Kuwait, Bosnia, Irag, ect. ECT!
You ( I won't say the English because I do not believe you are representative of them; one of our family's best friends works with many a noble English soldier in Iraq right now) don't care about the thousands of children who were released from Saddam's prisons, broken and mutilated from spending their childhood in torture chambers, you don't care about the tens of thousands of women who were raped, tortured and murdered by that hidious creature and his sons, you don't care about the hundreds of thousands of men, women and children that were brutalized for generations, torture by the deliberate amputation of arms, legs, hands, feet, noses, ears, genitels, eyes and fingers, ect. you
care nothing for the families rent usunder, you spit upon the mass graves of thousands who will never be identified. You slander my countrymen AND your countrymen who have fallen, far from homes and families, for the freedom of a people they have never met. You mock the men women and children who rejoice to have their freedom. Boys and girls in Afganistan and Iraq can attend games without having to first wittness the exicution if their mothers on the same field. You slander the character of those who have engaged in acts of nobility that mystify a parasite such as yourself. You have no honor, no dignity, no respect, and no aspiration for anything higher than yourself. I will hold nothing back in me denunciation of your cowardice for you have tred not only on me, but on generations and generation of the bravest blood. How arrogent you are to assume that I have no one close to me fighting even now! Two friends of ours, one extremey close, are not going to be here for Christmas because they are in Iraq, Both of my grandfathers were in the United States Navy, one who was deployed to the Pacific during WWII. My uncle was a Cobra pilot, my brother's best friend has just joined the United States Airforce, and my only brother, currently in the Civil Air Patrol, is soon to be joining either the Army or the National Guard. Our neighbors, who we have lived next two for nearly 16 years and who are better than family, also have military relitives and friends. You have slandered them.
Our family friend, a soon-to-be Leutinant-Colonal, even now in Iraq (Mosul) does not agree with your almost blasphemous claim that Americans and our Allies are a plauge to the Iraqis. He has numerous accounts of Iraqi gratitude, help, friendship, success, hopfulness, and recovery from Saddam's evil tyrany. He is far more an authority than you, my dear pippa, and your hateful, yes HATEFUL, rantings and cowardly lies will never change that. Freedom, justice, truth, honor, unselfishness, and America are unwavering realities. America has stood against greater tempests than the lies of an ungrateful generation, let alone you.
One more thing, unlke Europe, America is stll mostly rural, and in one of these rural place my family and I make our home. Sorry to disappoint you, but we are not suburban.
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Although a few good points came through, note the arrogence radiating through a lot of it. She landed herself in a massive debate over these. What do you think?

Dont mind that guy who you quoted, what he said does not reflect on the majority of our population, not even close.

people fighting just because i put foreigners. i'm about to pee my pants i'm laughing so hard. keep the fights going, guys.
I am sorry if I seemed rather harsh to you, but not all netizens are from the US and you really cannot label someone as foreigner on the Net, it is in this environment where at least in theory all national and cultural barriers are broken down. I wasn't trying to put you down and I made a mistake by not choosing my words as carefully as I should have. Understand?

My view of americans is largely based upon two programmes- rich girls and the simple life. So, my view of America is that the rich are conceited idiots, unable to comprehend anything that doesn't directly affect them while the working and middle classes seem pretty sound, except if you're gay or a muslim.

appreciate your honesty. (there's a reason why rich girls only lasted 1 season!)

I posted this in the other 'wot u think of US' thread, and since this thread is similar I can post a similar post here, right?

American ppl seem to have the idea that their government can just intervene in other countries whenever that's in their interest (think about Chile for example).

Your president was chosen by your people, that means it's mandate stops at the border. Otherwise it's not democratic.

Just my two eh eurocents ;)

By imprisoning people, or telling them how to vote?

Such is the price of freedom. Criminals belong in prison, people are being told how to vote, note forced into voting for a particular candidate.

I am sorry if I seemed rather harsh to you, but not all netizens are from the US and you really cannot label someone as foreigner on the Net, it is in this environment where at least in theory all national and cultural barriers are broken down. I wasn't trying to put you down and I made a mistake by not choosing my words as carefully as I should have. Understand?

apology accepted (i never got mad about it i was just having some fun)

and thanks to this kid that defended me, i'm in need for some M.S.

My view of americans is largely based upon two programmes- rich girls and the simple life. So, my view of America is that the rich are conceited idiots, unable to comprehend anything that doesn't directly affect them while the working and middle classes seem pretty sound, except if you're gay or a muslim.

What you just said about muslims was BS, you would know if you were here that they are permitted to follow their religion, they are not persecuted in America and are allowed to wear whatever they want. (Unlike some European countrys) There are only a few rich idiots, such as Paris Hilton who is a bitch and deserves to be torchered in the old English torture chambers, of which havent been used because the punishments were so cruel and awful that the English realized they were awful.

That was a little ignorant of you but nevertheless, you are right about the gays part.

I posted this in the other 'wot u think of US' thread, and since this thread is similar I can post a similar post here, right?

American ppl seem to have the idea that their government can just intervene in other countries whenever that's in their interest (think about Chile for example).

Your president was chosen by your people, that means it's mandate stops at the border. Otherwise it's not democratic.

Just my two eh eurocents ;)

good point...give me something to think about besides my little itty bitty life
^not saying i dislike my country i <3 US

Thats not how it is here. Capitalism has worked very well. Its not like they rule us by the way, when John Rockefeller owned 96% of the US' oil, the govt. made him split it up just so he wouldnt have a a monopoly like that. Monopolys are illegal in the US you know.


Thats not what I was reffering to. I was reffering to the attitude of people in the US. The fact that people judge success based on what car they drive or how big their house is or how many pools they have or whatever, rather than on how happy they are.

I am sorry if I seemed rather harsh to you, but not all netizens are from the US and you really cannot label someone as foreigner on the Net, it is in this environment where at least in theory all national and cultural barriers are broken down. I wasn't trying to put you down and I made a mistake by not choosing my words as carefully as I should have. Understand?

Im sorry if I went on to saying things a little quickly. There is just SOOO much anti-Americanism in the world that I am quick with the keyboard, you know? Either way, I am sorry.

Such is the price of freedom. Criminals belong in prison, people are being told how to vote, note forced into voting for a particular candidate.
You have to admit that Guantanamo Bay is an interesting example of the American promotion of freedom, and that the U.S. has interfered with more democratic elections (Vietnam, South Korea, most of South America) than is quite appropriate for a promoter of national democracy. Unless your idea of democracy is "U.S. citizens choose the U.S. government; the U.S. government chooses all other governments".

paris hilton...bleck

You have to admit that Guantanamo Bay is an interesting example of the American promotion of freedom, and that the U.S. has interfered with more democratic elections (Vietnam, South Korea, most of South America) than is quite appropriate for a promoter of national democracy. Unless your idea of democracy is "U.S. citizens choose the U.S. government; the U.S. government chooses all other governments".

I know really what an idiot, he is saying, torture = Democracy which is = to Bush picking out a candidate :rolleyes: So he is saying Torture is = to a constitutional monarchy, that is basically what it is, he is appointing a leader to Iraq, although only to the trained eye. Kind of like the backdoor draft, it is not a draft but might as well be.

Im sorry if I went on to saying things a little quickly. There is just SOOO much anti-Americanism in the world that I am quick with the keyboard, you know? Either way, I am sorry.

You don't have to be sorry, i understand. We had the potential for a little flame war to go off here, but we managed to resolve it ourselves without any of us having to run off to the moderators. Isn't that much better? That we are able to do this?

What you just said about muslims was BS, you would know if you were here that they are permitted to follow their religion, they are not persecuted in America and are allowed to wear whatever they want. (Unlike some European countrys) There are only a few rich idiots, such as Paris Hilton who is a bitch and deserves to be torchered in the old English torture chambers, of which havent been used because the punishments were so cruel and awful that the English realized they were awful.

That was a little ignorant of you but nevertheless, you are right about the gays part.

I didn't say they weren't given freedom, they just don't seem to be trusted over there.

I know really what an idiot, he is saying, torture = Democracy which is = to Bush picking out a candidate :rolleyes: So he is saying Torture is = to a constitutional monarchy, that is basically what it is, he is appointing a leader to Iraq, although only to the trained eye. Kind of like the backdoor draft, it is not a draft but might as well be.
I don't really understand what you're saying here.

hum...i feels like this forum might have to be deleted-the input is rather diminished. it felt like a big hit in the beginning, but now kramer is just about the only one talking thanks for the m.s. everyone. dismiss or not to dismiss? i think dismiss, i should leave it up to the kid that originally made this forum in the first place

Yes, "foreigners", what do you think of the country that was the principal organizer fo the UN and is today the contributor of 22% of its budget?

Yes, "foreigners", what do you think of the country that was the principal organizer fo the UN and is today the contributor of 22% of its budget?
When it pays up.
It's a billion dollars behind on dues, last I heard.

I don't really understand what you're saying here.

I am saying that there is torture but hardly any freedom going on there. Verifying your point.

I am saying that there is torture but hardly any freedom going on there. Verifying your point.
Oh.
Good.
Thank you!

:)

I think we're kind of stupid. And our leaders have started a war we were never meant to fight. I bet they'll bomb us. BOOM. Plus, I'm not amused with all this pressure and all these commercials on how great the army is. And marines. And navy. (well not navy so much)...go ahead die for your country. die by having variouse gasses choke and burn you, from the inside out. Doesn't sound to honorable to me.

And the Pledge of Allegence sucks. We're so damn flashy, we gotta teach our kids arrogance every weekday in the morning for the next 12 years of their lives. And thought not directly, "One nation under god" is kinda no cool witrh the first amendment. or me.

I want to move to Canada. Or Alaska. Or maybe even Spain...Spain would be nice.

And I'm a natural born American.

I think we're kind of stupid. And our leaders have started a war we were never meant to fight. I bet they'll bomb us. BOOM. Plus, I'm not amused with all this pressure and all these commercials on how great the army is. And marines. And navy. (well not navy so much)...go ahead die for your country. die by having variouse gasses choke and burn you, from the inside out. Doesn't sound to honorable to me.

And the Pledge of Allegence sucks. We're so damn flashy, we gotta teach our kids arrogance every weekday in the morning for the next 12 years of their lives. And thought not directly, "One nation under god" is kinda no cool witrh the first amendment. or me.

I want to move to Canada. Or Alaska. Or maybe even Spain...Spain would be nice.

And I'm a natural born American.


Um...you do know that you have the right to 'not' recite the pledge, and the 'under God' reference....don't you?

Also...you do know that Alaska...was purchased by the United States....don't you? It is a state....after all. ;)

I think America has some great things going for it. But I think that the people are generally quite arrogant about what is, effectively, not actually that big a country.

I've been a few times, and find your knowledge of other countries severly lacking. Fair enough, perhaps I can't correctly pick out New York from orbit, or reel off all the states names in one go, but I know your regional accents and dialects, and I don't just assume you all sound like new Yorkers or Texans the way you seem to think I sound like John Lennon. (Liverpdulians are scum, I'm a Mancunian, and all the better for it).

Countering the arrogance and ignorance is your sense of... well, I don't know, a slight naivety about the world. Perhaps it's actually a product of your arrogance and ignorance, after all, ignorance is bliss, right? But I guess it makes you endearing. And I seem to be find it extraordinarily easy to get American girls into bed, compared to my native England. I'm not complaining. Also, you know how to eat well. You just don't seem to understand that eating ten times the amount of food any European may eat in a day in one helping and not exercising after it might possibly make you a bit fat.

[QUOTE=Psychadelikotika]I think America has some great things going for it. But I think that the people are generally quite arrogant about what is, effectively, not actually that big a country.

I've been a few times, and find your knowledge of other countries severly lacking. Fair enough, perhaps I can't correctly pick out New York from orbit, or reel off all the states names in one go, but I know your regional accents and dialects, and I don't just assume you all sound like new Yorkers or Texans the way you seem to think I sound like John Lennon. (Liverpdulians are scum, I'm a Mancunian, and all the better for it).

Countering the arrogance and ignorance is your sense of... well, I don't know, a slight naivety about the world. Perhaps it's actually a product of your arrogance and ignorance, after all, ignorance is bliss, right? But I guess it makes you endearing. And I seem to be find it extraordinarily easy to get American girls into bed, compared to my native England. I'm not complaining. Also, you know how to eat well. You just don't seem to understand that eating ten times the amount of food any European may eat in a day in one helping and not exercising after it might possibly make you a bit fat


think you're some kind of pimp? :)

I'm Flemish (belgian) and I LOVE the US and laissez-faire capitalism and would like to see the States and all other countries progress more towards it :cool:

People are generally nice, you have your fair share of eejits, who often seem to become quite powerful. Government hasn't enough of a social conscience. Need to be more aware of the wrold around you, although having a nation where states are bigger than most other nations, and where you can 'see the world' without leaving your borders kinda opposes that.

BUT : It is a great country in many many respects.

The US is an ok country and its people are great, with foibles and virtues, just like anybody else in the world, but actually quite good to hang around with.

However, when it comes to foreign policy I feel the US has always been too meddling in other's affairs and also too quick to impose their system of values and protecting their interests (even when running against each other) on others.

I live in the US and I see it as a cesspool of corruption and greed. The average American is a fat, lazy slob who causes car wrecks just trying to make sure he's first in line at the McDonald's drive-through (that's drive-thru, technically). Americans are generally ignorant to anything outside their region and are often seen using one of the following catch phrases:

1] Why can't them mooslims be more like us?
2] Them damn liberals want to have sex with my children!
3] America! Love it or leave it!
4] Pass the gravy.

Americans are rude, gassy, and full of blind hate ...

But, alas, they're my people and all I can do is try to change them ... one child at a time.

PS. I don't want to hear people using catch phrase #3 at me. I don't like it, but I ain't leaving. This country was founded on, "America! Love it or change it!"

I love my country...except the south.

When Europeans go America is full of lazy, arrogant, blah blah blah. It's pretty much the south they are describing.

I live in the US and I see it as a cesspool of corruption and greed. The average American is a fat, lazy slob who causes car wrecks just trying to make sure he's first in line at the McDonald's drive-through (that's drive-thru, technically). Americans are generally ignorant to anything outside their region and are often seen using one of the following catch phrases:

1] Why can't them mooslims be more like us?
2] Them damn liberals want to have sex with my children!
3] America! Love it or leave it!
4] Pass the gravy.

Americans are rude, gassy, and full of blind hate ...

But, alas, they're my people and all I can do is try to change them ... one child at a time.

PS. I don't want to hear people using catch phrase #3 at me. I don't like it, but I ain't leaving. This country was founded on, "America! Love it or change it!"

Where the fuck in America do you live buddy?

However, when it comes to foreign policy I feel the US has always been too meddling in other's affairs and also too quick to impose their system of values and protecting their interests (even when running against each other) on others.

most people in the USA agree with you