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Okay, pritty simple, I give you a position that is almost undefensable and you have to argue it's point against all comers until you give up or you dessolve int flaming ect.

Any takers?

let 'er rip. i can defend anything (as long as it wont get me banned)

let 'er rip. i can defend anything (as long as it wont get me banned)
Okay,

FOX actually leans left wing, not right wing.

no it doesn't

FOX actually leans left wing, not right wing.

that's an easy one. because it's true.

Prove it.

A Jewish man was just cut off mid-sentence to change coverage to PM Blair and PM Sharon. This occurred after a military Lt. Col. was given a full segment and after a story celebrating Denver's mayor's decision to replace the words 'Happy Holidays' on the capitol building with 'Merry Christmas'. How is that left-wing?

In many ways Fox news leans left-wing. For instance Alan Colmes co-hosts Hannity and Colmes. Also Jeanne Garofolo is a frequent guest on there show.( I realy don't thimk that Fox news is left-wing or entirely right-wing. I was just arguing the position)

A Jewish man was just cut off mid-sentence to change coverage to PM Blair and PM Sharon. This occurred after a military Lt. Col. was given a full segment and after a story celebrating Denver's mayor's decision to replace the words 'Happy Holidays' on the capitol building with 'Merry Christmas'. How is that left-wing?

the left has always respected a strong and powerful leader, such as sharon or blair or that mayor in denver. in fact, the left actually tends to get into that whole cult of personality leader worship thing. how can some jewish guy stand up to the likes of them?

and christmas is completely left-wing (people giving each other things, without expectation of getting money in exchange for them? that's communism, that is). so of course the left would celebrate official recognition of it.

Traffic lights are red, yellow and blue, not red, yellow, and green.

the premise is flawed... too unspecific. fox news, which is commonly perceived as having a bias to the right, is a separate entity from fox entertainment, which carries such shows as the simpsons, which is difficult to categorize as right wing. in fact fox news tried to sue fox entertainment in 2003:

link to washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031029-091743-7849r)

which fox are you talking about?

Prove it.

bill o'reilly - hates liberals
sean hannity - hates liberals
lenin - hated liberals
mao - hated liberals

A Jewish man was just cut off mid-sentence to change coverage to PM Blair and PM Sharon. This occurred after a military Lt. Col. was given a full segment and after a story celebrating Denver's mayor's decision to replace the words 'Happy Holidays' on the capitol building with 'Merry Christmas'. How is that left-wing?

to be honest though, id rather hear from people who can do something, rather than some jewish dude. besides which the israelis seem to be the right wing regarding the palestine issue so cutting a jewish guy off would appear to be a left wing action. hmmm. as for celebrating a change from happy holidays to merry xmas, thank god someone has done it. USA is a christian country, do you think there are many israeli stores that would post happy holidays rather than happy hanukah (or hebrew equivalent)? ot likely. whats wrong with a country celebrating it's faith. even if it is not shared by all - there should be no cause for people to have their religious lives affected by PC, unless their religious lives are denegrating the rights of others. as for the military guy getting a segment. YOUR COUNTRY IS AT WAR. live with it or do something about it. jee-sus

bill o'reilly - hates liberals
sean hannity - hates liberals
lenin - hated liberals
mao - hated liberals
unsound premise #1
lenin and mao were communists. communists are considered leftists.

unsound premise #2
there are social liberals and economic liberals. the democratic party of the united states tends to be socially liberal (e.g. pro-choice) but economically conservative (taxation, welfare, etc.) whereas the republican party of the united states tends to be socially conservative (e.g. anti gay marriage) but economically liberal (laissez-faire economics). then there are the libertarians who claim both social and economic liberalism. which liberals do those guys hate?

to be honest though, id rather hear from people who can do something, rather than some jewish dude. besides which the israelis seem to be the right wing regarding the palestine issue so cutting a jewish guy off would appear to be a left wing action. hmmm. as for celebrating a change from happy holidays to merry xmas, thank god someone has done it. USA is a christian country, do you think there are many israeli stores that would post happy holidays rather than happy hanukah (or hebrew equivalent)? ot likely. whats wrong with a country celebrating it's faith. even if it is not shared by all - there should be no cause for people to have their religious lives affected by PC, unless their religious lives are denegrating the rights of others. as for the military guy getting a segment. YOUR COUNTRY IS AT WAR. live with it or do something about it. jee-sus

Pardon me for plagerizing your post-style, Cheap Livestock.

Unsound Premise #1: "USA is a christian country"
The US is not a Christian country-- we have no official religion. See First Amendment.

Unsound Premise #2: "the israelis seem to be the right wing regarding the palestine issue so cutting a jewish guy off would appear to be a left wing action"
Unless the "jewish guy" was talking about Isreal, and in favor of it, that wouldn't seem to follow logically at all. There's a difference between Judaism and Zionism, and not all Jews support Isreal.

The law of the excluded middle does not hold.

unsound premise #1
lenin and mao were communists. communists are considered leftists.

unsound premise #2
there are social liberals and economic liberals. the democratic party of the united states tends to be socially liberal (e.g. pro-choice) but economically conservative (taxation, welfare, etc.) whereas the republican party of the united states tends to be socially conservative (e.g. anti gay marriage) but economically liberal (laissez-faire economics). then there are the libertarians who claim both social and economic liberalism. which liberals do those guys hate?
Unsound Premise #1: No they weren't, they were authoritarians. Damn close to being rightists in their actions.

Unsound Premise #2 US liberals- Modern economic/social liberals (ie your conservatives for economics and social liberals)

I will argue to the death that this forum does not exist.

I will argue to the death that this forum does not exist.
1. You can't trust Jews.
2. Max Barry could be a Jew.
3. Max Barry can't be trusted
4. Max Barry says this forum exists
5. Because Max Barry could be a Jew, he must be lying.
6. The forum does not exist.


QED.


(taken from a rather funny thread. Note to mods, this is a joke...)

The law of the excluded middle does not hold.

now that is more of a real challenge

George Bush is a liberal woman.

6. The forum does not exist.
Shh! Your not supposed to prove me right!

George Bush is a liberal woman.

just like the pope is a sock puppet.

the pope is a puppet, who wears socks
therefore he is a sock puppet

the pope is a puppet, who wears socks
therefore he is a sock puppet

is bush a sock puppet then? and cheney the puppet master but then what if spector was pulling his strings, but then thre are no strings i cant see them on tv thay must be better than those in 'team america' super strings.

George Bush is a liberal woman.


I can do womanish liberal pretty easily.

I think full blown woman is a little harder.

bush is not a puppet
puppets never wear suits
ever seeen a suit-wearing puppet?
i think not
puppets do at times wear robes though
therefore the pope is a puppet
superstrings are a seperate matter
they are a component of a theory intended to combine quantum mechanics and general relativity

I have one... prove that Gallager (the guy who smashes watermelons) won the election in 2004 against Bush and Kerry.
Probably the hardest of the tasks.

bush is not a puppet
puppets never wear suits
ever seeen a suit-wearing puppet?
i think not
puppets do at times wear robes though
therefore the pope is a puppet
superstrings are a seperate matter
they are a component of a theory intended to combine quantum mechanics and general relativity

george in his bathrobe? ha got you!

I have one... prove that Gallager (the guy who smashes watermelons) won the election in 2004 against Bush and Kerry.
Probably the hardest of the tasks.

hes the hand inside bush (sock puppet) infact bush and the pope are the same person/sock puppet

unsound premise #1
lenin and mao were communists. communists are considered leftists.

unsound premise #2
there are social liberals and economic liberals. the democratic party of the united states tends to be socially liberal (e.g. pro-choice) but economically conservative (taxation, welfare, etc.) whereas the republican party of the united states tends to be socially conservative (e.g. anti gay marriage) but economically liberal (laissez-faire economics). then there are the libertarians who claim both social and economic liberalism. which liberals do those guys hate?

nah. the actual flaw in my analogy is the implied premise that all people that hate liberals share the same politics.

Pardon me for plagerizing your post-style, Cheap Livestock.

Unsound Premise #1: "USA is a christian country"
The US is not a Christian country-- we have no official religion. See First Amendment.


I'd say it's safe to say that America is a Christian nation (around 78%).

The Government of America has no religion. That's the Government of America. Not America.

America =/= America's Government.

You can hate Bush and love America just like I loved America and strongly disliked Clinton.

how the hell can anyone not like clinton?

Creationism is real, because someone had to make everything, it didnt just happen by accident

p.s how could evolution POSSIBLY make sense, and darwin was a doodoo head

Unsound Premise #1: "USA is a christian country"
The US is not a Christian country-- we have no official religion. See First Amendment.

Its an awesome country. I have witnessed alot of faith! There is "no label" to describe every faith variation out there by one religion or one way of life.

Traffic lights are red, yellow and blue, not red, yellow, and green.
Thats true somewhere. LOL
Hitler didnt invent or warrent final solution anytakers :p

Abortion is perfectly OK because, aside from and more important than any other considerations, I perform abortions for a living.

how the hell can anyone not like clinton?


...Do I really need to answer this?

the premise is flawed... too unspecific. fox news, which is commonly perceived as having a bias to the right, is a separate entity from fox entertainment, which carries such shows as the simpsons, which is difficult to categorize as right wing. in fact fox news tried to sue fox entertainment in 2003:

link to washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031029-091743-7849r)

which fox are you talking about?

Um... Okay, here's your problem...

AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE

While I am a big Fox (News and Entertainment) fan, I must refuse to believe this.

to be honest though, id rather hear from people who can do something, rather than some jewish dude. besides which the israelis seem to be the right wing regarding the palestine issue so cutting a jewish guy off would appear to be a left wing action. hmmm. as for celebrating a change from happy holidays to merry xmas, thank god someone has done it. USA is a christian country,*snip*

The USA is not a Christian Country. Read the U.S. treaty with Tripoli, Article 11:

" Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

I thought freedom was what made this country great? Having "Happy Holidays" on a capital building is a much better celebration of America's diversity and rich cultural heritage than the one-minded "Merry Christmas"

The law of the excluded middle does not hold.

I believe it holds, and fallacious arguements derive from it only when it is applied fallaciously!