NationStates Jolt Archive


Pardon me?

Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2004, 09:47
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/21/presidential.pardons.ap/index.html

Why in the blue hell is he pardoning people who served their sentences years if not decades ago? Why bother?!?

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aktion/action-smiley-041.gif
The Black Forrest
22-12-2004, 09:52
Gee what a guy. To think such horrible crimes too!

I wonder if any of them have links to any Republican supporters? ;)
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2004, 09:53
Gee what a guy. To think such horrible crimes too!

I wonder if any of them have links to any Republican supporters? ;)

I'm sure the fact that they were all involved in white collar business crime is purely coincidence. :)
Daistallia 2104
22-12-2004, 09:55
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/21/presidential.pardons.ap/index.html

Why in the blue hell is he pardoning people who served their sentences years if not decades ago? Why bother?!?

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aktion/action-smiley-041.gif

Same reason Michael Dukakis pardoned Sacco and Vanzetti?
Daistallia 2104
22-12-2004, 09:57
Gee what a guy. To think such horrible crimes too!

I wonder if any of them have links to any Republican supporters? ;)

Probably. This stinks of Clinton's pardons in 2001.
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2004, 09:57
Same reason Michael Dukakis pardoned Sacco and Vanzetti?

Ain't politics grand? :)
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2004, 09:59
Probably. This stinks of Clinton's pardons in 2001.

Yeah, but Clinton didn't beat around the bush. Mark Rich served time.

These four guys all got probation. The purpose of these pardons is so they don't have to list felonies on their resumes.

I wonder how much it cost them? ;)
Damaica
22-12-2004, 10:01
That would depend on the individual cases. I have not researched the issue, however I would assume that the cases may have been shakey in its production, and now that the punishments have been served (or have they?), the President wishes to absolve them of the crime as to allow a successful future.

A lot of Pardons happen after the punishment is completed. This way the crime has been paid for, but the person who completed the punishment (and most likely the crime) will not have to suffer the record of it.

That'd be my guess.
Free Soviets
22-12-2004, 10:19
Same reason Michael Dukakis pardoned Sacco and Vanzetti?

vanzetti was totally innocent. sacco was probably involved somehow though.
Free Soviets
22-12-2004, 10:20
Probably. This stinks of Clinton's pardons in 2001.

indeed. and to think i actually got my hopes up that he might take a look at the leonard peltier case at the time...
Daistallia 2104
22-12-2004, 10:21
vanzetti was totally innocent. sacco was probably involved somehow though.

Yep. Giovanni Gambera said as much. ;)
Free Soviets
22-12-2004, 10:24
Yep. Giovanni Gambera said as much. ;)

still got railroaded due to their politics though.
Daistallia 2104
22-12-2004, 10:25
Yeah, but Clinton didn't beat around the bush. Mark Rich served time.

These four guys all got probation. The purpose of these pardons is so they don't have to list felonies on their resumes.

I wonder how much it cost them? ;)

True, true, all too true.

indeed. and to think i actually got my hopes up that he might take a look at the leonard peltier case at the time...

All those ("suppoosedly") paid pardons but not pardoning Peltier was the icing on the cake of a bad presidency.
Daistallia 2104
22-12-2004, 10:26
still got railroaded due to their politics though.

Yep.