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Well, now that I think I've starved the troll, I'd like to move my little discussion over here..

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?

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you know me...which ever ones the bird is and yeah

****which ever ones the bird is.... what the hell is that??? umm.. Pan!!! as for rituals... um... all that im able to do lol... cause.. im still practitioner.. until i *hopefullly* get into the school of wizardry watched over by the Grey Council hehe****

Tormented_Death::::::

you know me...which ever ones the bird is and yeah


Yep, I know.

I haven't spent much time in ritual lately, aside from meditation. I really don't think I'd feel comfortable doing group rituals any time soon, so I'm going to stick to solitary rituals for the time being.

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?

I switch around a bit, as I believe that all of the gods are different faces of the same kind of, err... Thing. I'm bad at explaining it.

At the moment, I'm liking Kernunnos a lot. I've always been into the Celtic side of things myself, probably partially because I'm mostly Irish.

Err, is any of what I just said coherent? I hope so...

I switch around a bit, as I believe that all of the gods are different faces of the same kind of, err... Thing. I'm bad at explaining it.

At the moment, I'm liking Kernunnos a lot. I've always been into the Celtic side of things myself, probably partially because I'm mostly Irish.

Err, is any of what I just said coherent? I hope so...


*hug* YAY!! A MONOTHEISTIC POLYTHEIST!! just like me!!!

Well, now that I think I've starved the troll, I'd like to move my little discussion over here..

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?
yeah but by mentioning trolls in the thread title you are inclined to attract more. its like saying the names of a powerful spirit, never a good idea unless you really are ready for the possibility of its manifestation.

yeah but by mentioning trolls in the thread title you are inclined to attract more. its like saying the names of a powerful spirit, never a good idea unless you really are ready for the possibility of its manifestation.


damn.

damn. but to where?

but to where?

oi..my random profanity always elicits this sort of response.

Anyway, it's getting late and I have things to do in the morning. Goodnight and Blessed Be!!

My beliefs are close to Neo Anarchists - that they are all facets of the Divine.

I have been a solitary for many years...or should I say that it's been many years since I participated in a group ritual. To me ritual is what you choose it to be. I know many 'set', formal rituals but I do as many if not more 'improvizational' ones.

Well, now that I think I've starved the troll, I'd like to move my little discussion over here..

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?

I don't know if you consider it a ritual, but I find its important to analyze and realanlyze our beliefs about gods to weed out contradictions and discover new conclusions (note which is seperate from Truths).

Why, the Sumerian gods of course.

Rituals? Pfft..
*Shakes fist at Utu*
I'll ritual you!

Yes, I'm aware of what I just did.

which ever ones the bird is.... what the hell is that??? umm.. Pan!!!
I'm obviously missing something here. Is this "Pan" the same one as the satyric Grecian god?

No specific god(s) I honor. No rituals either (though I do still go to church from time to time...). I basically believe in a divine presence, not an actual deity, though I am a Catholic-Pagan (don't ask). To me it isn't even really about who you worship, just how you live. Funny bout what that fundamentalist guy said in the last thread, I even asked a priest about the church's standpoint on pagans and he said that they're fine. None of that "straight to hell" crap either.

I think I was going to say more, but my brain just blanked out, so that is all.

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Join the Great Cosmic Walruses legions today!

I've often found that "rituals" are window dressing for the weak. With true power the need for ritual becomes irrelevent, other than for some degree of comfort value. Nothing wrong with that, just calling it like it is.

God/Godess/Whatever neither needs nor desires your rituals to know what is in your heart. It's all grey, folks. How you use it makes it light or dark and dictates who you are serving, regardless of what you may claim in Circle.

Group ritual can be helpful in the Begining, but the best of us seem to eventually have to break away and go it our own way and walk our own path. It can be lonely, but vital to our growth.

wise words

Thanks, but I expect I'll get flamed by someone.

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Here I am posting again, and it seems like noone is actually reading what I write. but, what I did last night(my birthday) I drank some home brew(mead my namesake) and offered some to mother earth, as I am druidustically based pagan. and did a circle, and my circle(all 5 of us WHooHOO) did a ritual dance(kinda made up, but it gets the point across) and then we drank some more, and several 4 of us danced through the fire naked.(I refrained, as I think that is a bit on the poor taste, and type cast side of things. However, I would never be hte one to stop 4 women from getting naked in front of me. That would be stupidity. after that we left our mead to the fire goddess, and went home. Not much of a circle, or a ritual, but it is what I have come up with to do. I need some inspiration, I need some further knowledge.
Maybe I should buy paganism for dummies.

hmmm well I am very much a Mother Earth, Father Sky Believer... Particularly pulled to Mother Earth and Goddess worship... I do not have any specific ritual, I feel myself beyond it now though there are simple things for Cleansing and the like... I do work with sexual energy quite a bit and seem to have a talent for it...

you guys seriously had to do some digging to find this again, didn't you?

*laughs*

Ah, but they felt strongly enough to dig.... Where I'm at the weather has not been condusive to any sort of digging - I'm on a glitchy dial up right now and it's cold and raining the proverbial cats and dogs...

Ritual is a comfort aspect - I'll agree with that - it can ease one into the proper mindset when things have gotten rough. But can add a dimention of majesty when the need or desire is there. And there are things that can not be done in solitude - there are times when only a group can concentrate the energies needed.

Happy Belated Birthday Meadopia! Your evening sounds like it was most delightful...and dancing through the fire can be fun - the only stereotypes are the ones you impose on your self.

Blessed Be

I've often found that "rituals" are window dressing for the weak. With true power the need for ritual becomes irrelevent, other than for some degree of comfort value. Nothing wrong with that, just calling it like it is.

God/Godess/Whatever neither needs nor desires your rituals to know what is in your heart. It's all grey, folks. How you use it makes it light or dark and dictates who you are serving, regardless of what you may claim in Circle.

Group ritual can be helpful in the Begining, but the best of us seem to eventually have to break away and go it our own way and walk our own path. It can be lonely, but vital to our growth.


Splitting from a group can be viewed in one of two ways --

First, it could be elitism. I hate to say this because I have left a coven myself, but some people leave groups because they think that they are better than the others and are not getting proper recognition.

Second, it could be, as you said, personal growth. At some points, it is indeed vital for one to leave a group and continue on another path. However, it always helps to have someone whom you can trust in case of any difficulties along the way.

Well, now that I think I've starved the troll, I'd like to move my little discussion over here..

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?
I honor no "gods," I perform no "rituals," I make my own way. :)

I honor no "gods," I perform no "rituals," I make my own way. :)


That is quite interesting. I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate if you would so kindly explain in a bit more detail.

I guess you could say that i honor "Vast Emptiness", there isn't really any subscribe rituals. so basically I found out the best way to honor Emptiness is to fulfil your own potemtial, to live your live fully anf simply to do what you want to do.

It seems to ma that there are as many types of wiccans/pagans as there are wiccan/pagans... and working with us is like trying to herd cats...

The Lakota say that none can walk anothers path - walk along side yes but never their exact path for each is their own, unique.

The Navajo say Hozho ( sorry don't have some of the diacritical marks available to me here ) - "Walk in beauty"

It seems to ma that there are as many types of wiccans/pagans as there are wiccan/pagans... and working with us is like trying to herd cats...

The Lakota say that none can walk anothers path - walk along side yes but never their exact path for each is their own, unique.

The Navajo say Hozho ( sorry don't have some of the diacritical marks available to me here ) - "Walk in beauty"
You cannot walk anothers path because you cannot live anothers life...you have to live you own life, a philosopher that i admire once said that to adopt the thoughts and ideas of others over your own not only is insane but is incredibly stupid and a hallmark of sloth. This life is yours, you are the one who has to go through it---why would you want to waste your life by futilely trying to emulate another?

I guess you could say that i honor "Vast Emptiness", there isn't really any subscribe rituals. so basically I found out the best way to honor Emptiness is to fulfil your own potemtial, to live your live fully anf simply to do what you want to do.

I don't want to sound like I'm casting judgment, or even saying you are wrong, but I have kived in vast emptiness, and it was quite unpleasant for me. Don't get me wrong, I don't need others to make me feel complete, or to make myself feel better, but I do find that a certain amount of group time is benefeicial to my well being. It's amazing to me that after 38 years of loneliness, and doing what I want to do, I find myself over the past 6 years doing more for myself in the name of others (I'm in school again to give my kids a better life) I guess I found that my motivation to fulfill my potential came from the dependence of other people on me. I could always get by before, now I need more. I guess I just could no longer worship in the great abyss anymore, more times than not I was tempted to throw myself in it. it really amazes me sometimes how much different people can be. I wish you much success in what you desire.

I don't want to sound like I'm casting judgment, or even saying you are wrong, but I have kived in vast emptiness, and it was quite unpleasant for me. Don't get me wrong, I don't need others to make me feel complete, or to make myself feel better, but I do find that a certain amount of group time is benefeicial to my well being. It's amazing to me that after 38 years of loneliness, and doing what I want to do, I find myself over the past 6 years doing more for myself in the name of others (I'm in school again to give my kids a better life) I guess I found that my motivation to fulfill my potential came from the dependence of other people on me. I could always get by before, now I need more. I guess I just could no longer worship in the great abyss anymore, more times than not I was tempted to throw myself in it. it really amazes me sometimes how much different people can be. I wish you much success in what you desire.

I can understand for some Vast Emptiness would seem like some sort of hellish, chaotic abyss where none should dare to tread, but for me Vast Emptiness is like an empty room in a house or a blank page...You could say that Vast Emptiness is filled with infinite potetential and possibility.

Well, now that I think I've starved the troll, I'd like to move my little discussion over here..

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?

I honor the Duel Deity. And I do belive in magick! :p

Joyous Yule to all of my wiccan net buddies. May this season bring you strength in you magick and warmth in your heart.
I myself will be celebrating at a mass coven party. We will be feasting and dancing and doing all of those fun wiccan things! YAY.

And too all of those who celebrate different religions the same warm greatings are extended to you.

Joyous Yule to all of my wiccan net buddies. May this season bring you strength in you magick and warmth in your heart.
I myself will be celebrating at a mass coven party. We will be feasting and dancing and doing all of those fun wiccan things! YAY.

And too all of those who celebrate different religions the same warm greatings are extended to you.

to niflheim with yule what ya need is thule.

What happened in her? this thread has kinda died hasn't it? where is everyone?
let's see, how can we get this thing rolling again, no troll, hmmm, how about where is everyone from? I'm from NY not the city, the state, the farm part of the state so if I need a sacrifice(which I will not do) I can find one. I am a learning, kinda blind leading the blind leader of a circle of druidesque believers. Would love to hear what everyone else follows, and where they are from so I can get a geograpic idea of where all us damned to hell sinners are.
Come on let's keep this thread alive!!

What happened in her? this thread has kinda died hasn't it? where is everyone?
let's see, how can we get this thing rolling again, no troll, hmmm, how about where is everyone from? I'm from NY not the city, the state, the farm part of the state so if I need a sacrifice(which I will not do) I can find one. I am a learning, kinda blind leading the blind leader of a circle of druidesque believers. Would love to hear what everyone else follows, and where they are from so I can get a geograpic idea of where all us damned to hell sinners are.
Come on let's keep this thread alive!!

Live in White Plains, work in Manhattan. I find that math has more truth in it than putting my face on a prayer rug or singing in the choir or dancing in the woods.

no, i don't practice religion, i'm just really good at it!



hahahahahahahahahaha, fuck me, i'm funny

That is quite interesting. I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate if you would so kindly explain in a bit more detail.
I would be glad to, but it would take a great deal of explaining. To condense, I believe:

1. The scientific method is the best way we have discovered to define reality.

2. God may or may not exist. At this stage in our evolution as a species we have no way of knowing.

3. Spirituality is hard-wired into the human nervous system.

4. The unexamined and/or untested faith is no faith at all, and the same goes for belief.

5. Genetics has shown that all men are our brothers and all women our sisters, whether we like it or not.

6. Prayer/meditation impacts reality, including accelerating healing in both plants and animals.

7. The universe is a dangerous place for small, weak mammals such as us.

8. The world can be a dangerous place for groups of humans without sufficient means to defend themselves.

9. The highest calling on a human life is one which involves defending, nurturing and/or advancing life, whether human or otherwise.


Does that help explain what I posted earlier? :)

Live in White Plains, work in Manhattan. I find that math has more truth in it than putting my face on a prayer rug or singing in the choir or dancing in the woods.


but dancing in the woods is fun..

but dancing in the woods is fun..
Um ... I responded above to your request on the previous page for more information. No comments??

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I think I'm a convert. Hail the Great Cosmic Walrus.

I just try to be nice and...well...nice.

Okay, explaination involved I'm guessing...

1) While I will always defend myself, I don't murder/steal/harrass people unneccassarily when possible.

2) Openly accept the concepts of others, while still maintaining my healthy dose of skeptism while not being an asshole and telling others they are wrong. Spirituality is up to the individual and we have no place telling them what to do. I also believe this for people's politics and things such as gay marriage, minorities etc.

3) I will forever be faithful to my friends and the people I love dearly (Especially my dear mother and dear girlfriend :P) for it'd be mean not to, that and they can hurt me because I won't hit a woman.

4) I will be myself. Anyone who tries to stop me will be pushed to the side so I can live my life as I choose. It may sound contradictory to what I said previously but I consider this defending myself so meh.

The 4 Commandments of Stabbatha!

Thank you Eutrusca for that expansion/ explaination of your beliefs. They are things I too agree with. The only one I disagree with strongly is #2:

2. God may or may not exist. At this stage in our evolution as a species we have no way of knowing

I do believe we have ways of knowing but is not validatable by the sicence/ technology we have available to us at this time.

Well, now that I think I've starved the troll, I'd like to move my little discussion over here..

Again, let's finish our discussion here. What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?
I honour torching witches, and his new Haroldian movement. So far, the closest things we have to rituals are worshipping golden statues of Harold Bishop, eating free pies and being free to masturbate

Thank you Eutrusca for that expansion/ explaination of your beliefs. They are things I too agree with. The only one I disagree with strongly is #2:

I do believe we have ways of knowing but is not validatable by the sicence/ technology we have available to us at this time.
I'm kewl with that. Since I have come to believe that the scientific method is virtually the only valid way we have of knowing reality, your statement above makes perfect sense to me. :)

:(

I don't know if you consider it a ritual, but I find its important to analyze and realanlyze our beliefs about gods to weed out contradictions and discover new conclusions (note which is seperate from Truths).
Woohoo! another kindred spirit!

Woohoo! another kindred spirit!

woot kindred spirit represent!

What Gods do you honor? What types of rituals do you perform?
Raised Epsicopal Christian. Dropped it once the internal logical inconsistencies couldn't be reconciled, combined with the point of faith that good people go to hell (too bad, Mahatma Ghandi. First circle of Dante's Inferno for you). Right now I go about calling myself a Deist, which is perhaps most accurate--some God (who I like to call "the Fanged God" sometimes just to see if anyone can get the reference) acted as a prime motive principle, then disappeared to let the universe carry on as it would.

Rituals? Unfortunately, very few--but I do what the good (heh heh) ol' Church Fathers did and steal extant ones and put them under names I rip untimely rip from s-f novels that I read. So far, the Winter Solstice/Haunnakah/Kwanzaa/Christmas/sometimes Ramadan period is now lumped inside "Midwinter Bloodfeast" (yay Niven). What are more 'religious' rituals are just average, day-to-day attempts at improving myself by being honorable to others, trying to be nice, helping out, blah blah blah idealist dogooder stuff.

I'm beginning to codify beliefs (as far as they will go) in my mind. Holidays--whenever you want, with wine (in moderation), women (or men, honorably and in moderation), and song (as immoderate as you'd like). Responsibilities--be as much a honorable, decent person as you can.

Oh, and what Irrational said. That makes hella sense, at all times.

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Oh, and what Irrational said. That makes hella sense, at all times.

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Just wanted to say thanks for the shoutout :D

Um ... I responded above to your request on the previous page for more information. No comments??


merp! sorry about that. I just really wanted to crack a joke about dancing in the woods.

You sufficiently clarified your belief system.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even though Jesus wasn't born in december, and the christmas tree didn't get it's start in christianity, but rather a solstice celebration icon, and and the whole virgin birth is suspect to many christians I know, and the fact that they celebrate the spawn of a god that rapes his own followers, and then the god can't even make sure the woman enjoys it because she has no clue it happened? come now. that's no god at all, that is a tit mouse with an attitude.
anyway, merry christmas from the great great great great great great great great great grandson of Jesus christ(ask for specifics I will share)
goodnight