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Why msut you debate stupid topics?

Flanvel
22-12-2004, 01:13
Why do you people debate the topic of evolution versus creationism and the likes. It goes nowhere. In fact, they are hardly debates! A debate involves proving facts to your side but when you just try to disprove the other's side without facts to backup your own are they more wrong than you or are you more wrong than them?

So many theories abound about this stuff but that is why they are theories, no one can prove they others wrong AND prove their's right at the same time. if they could, the winner would be a law! Jeez. Have you ever thought about the fact that we could all be a dream and none of this is real? Maybe that dreamer was God and that Jesus was also a dream sent by the dreaming God to give us a hope to better his dream, more enteraining in other terms. Maybe that was only to give us something to look forward to so God could have fun while he dreamed but that when we die we just cease to exist. Lovely thought, no?
Superpower07
22-12-2004, 01:16
Yeah, I agree - all the religious debates end up just trying to refute the other side.

I once saw a debate on genetic engineering on a non politics/philosophy based board, and it while it had its flaws I honestly saw the arguments being made were a LOT more coherent
Salchicho
22-12-2004, 01:17
Why do you people debate the topic of evolution versus creationism and the likes.
Sorry, all apologies. Let us all now debate the meaning of the word "msut". :D
Flanvel
22-12-2004, 01:17
I love to read only the religious debates here because they crack me up on how stupid the people can be. lol
Flanvel
22-12-2004, 01:18
Sorry, all apologies. Let us all now debate the meaning of the word "msut". :D


Oops, lol, typo! lol
Legless Pirates
22-12-2004, 01:18
Sorry, all apologies. Let us all now debate the meaning of the word "msut". :D
is it an animal?
Dempublicents
22-12-2004, 01:19
Why do you people debate the topic of evolution versus creationism and the likes. It goes nowhere. In fact, they are hardly debates! A debate involves proving facts to your side but when you just try to disprove the other's side without facts to backup your own are they more wrong than you or are you more wrong than them?

So many theories abound about this stuff but that is why they are theories, no one can prove they others wrong AND prove their's right at the same time. if they could, the winner would be a law! Jeez. Have you ever thought about the fact that we could all be a dream and none of this is real? Maybe that dreamer was God and that Jesus was also a dream sent by the dreaming God to give us a hope to better his dream, more enteraining in other terms. Maybe that was only to give us something to look forward to so God could have fun while he dreamed but that when we die we just cease to exist. Lovely thought, no?

Please be careful with the word "theory."

There is theory in the layman's terms - aka. any idea anyone comes up with.

And there is theory in the scientific sense - aka. a system backed up by all currently available evidence which can explain said evidence.

Now, while neither can be truly proven, one at least has backing in all available evidence and is thus the best *scientific* idea we have at the time.

If the fundies weren't trying to get their random idea taught in schools as actual science, there would be no debate - we would just wonder why fundamentalists continue to exist.
Dumner
22-12-2004, 01:20
you are right that so many of these debates are just trying to disprovethe other,
Flanvel
22-12-2004, 01:20
I use the term theory losely throught my opening statement. The meaning of it changed per topic I guess would be how to say it.
Texan Hotrodders
22-12-2004, 01:23
Why must we debate stupid topics? You mean like the ones that pop up fairly regularly and never really accomplish anything?
Dempublicents
22-12-2004, 01:23
I use the term theory losely throught my opening statement. The meaning of it changed per topic I guess would be how to say it.

You have to be careful on forums with scientists to be sure you are clear which definition you are using. Otherwise, unecessary arguments can pop up.
Criminalia
22-12-2004, 01:24
Why must we debate stupid topics? Why must YOU start a topic whining about why we debate about stupid topics? Why must I even reply?

Oh yeah. Its a forum.

ZING!
Flanvel
22-12-2004, 01:24
You have to be careful on forums with scientists to be sure you are clear which definition you are using. Otherwise, unecessary arguments can pop up.


Granted. i was in a frenzy, I was a little miffed at all the debates of these pointless topics. Sorry, I should prolly restate it all or something.
Dempublicents
22-12-2004, 01:28
Granted. i was in a frenzy, I was a little miffed at all the debates of these pointless topics. Sorry, I should prolly restate it all or something.

Nah, just wanted to be clear how you were using it =)
Flanvel
22-12-2004, 01:31
Heh
Ultra Cool People
22-12-2004, 01:38
Obviously he wants us to debate "SMUT" topics. Why debate Creationism or Evolution when we could be debating the production qualities of smut.
Peechland
22-12-2004, 01:49
Why do you people debate the topic of evolution versus creationism and the likes. It goes nowhere. In fact, they are hardly debates! A debate involves proving facts to your side but when you just try to disprove the other's side without facts to backup your own are they more wrong than you or are you more wrong than them?

So many theories abound about this stuff but that is why they are theories, no one can prove they others wrong AND prove their's right at the same time. if they could, the winner would be a law! Jeez. Have you ever thought about the fact that we could all be a dream and none of this is real? Maybe that dreamer was God and that Jesus was also a dream sent by the dreaming God to give us a hope to better his dream, more enteraining in other terms. Maybe that was only to give us something to look forward to so God could have fun while he dreamed but that when we die we just cease to exist. Lovely thought, no?


Honey- you havent seen stupid topics yet trust me. "Which brand of nail polish dries the fastest" would be a good one. 5 bucks says we'd get some good arguments on that. ;)

Just enjoy being in a realm of people from all over the world and being able to see their opinions and thoughts(even if you dont agree with them). I know that in the short time I've been here, I've laughed, gotten angry, argued my point and learned some things I didnt know. Welcome to Nation States! We look forward to hearing(err...reading) your opinions too!
Salchicho
22-12-2004, 16:34
is it an animal?
It could be. I am leaning more towards a city in Moldovia.
Desra2004
22-12-2004, 16:58
Is this thread a debate about stupid topics, a stupid topic??? WTF
Angry Fruit Salad
22-12-2004, 17:12
Personally, I have nothing better to do all day. Being out of class and off campus for a month sucks.
Desra2004
22-12-2004, 17:13
Personally, I have nothing better to do all day. Being out of class and off campus for a month sucks.

I hear ya' cannot wait till next semester....I love college :D (computer science major)
Peechland
22-12-2004, 17:15
well you can always come to the tis the season thread and talk about whatever you want without fear of spamming or interrupting a topic.
Angry Fruit Salad
22-12-2004, 17:15
I hear ya' cannot wait till next semester....I love college :D (computer science major)


I'm an MIS major. (Management Information Systems) I just want to get back to my T6 connection, my building with 75 other people, and my nonexistant roommate.
Dobbs Town
22-12-2004, 17:17
we msut debate the topics at hand, msutn't we? It makes for mcuh mroe interesting shouting mtaches...
Benevolent Omelette
22-12-2004, 17:19
See, this is the reason!

BOREDOM :D

It's the reason for a lot of other things too, e.g. the extended LOTR dvds, 99% of the internet, and hard-boiled eggs (Why else would you spend 8-10 minutes ruining an egg when you could have a perfectly nice soft-boiled one in 3 minutes, unless you had nothing better to do? ;))
Desra2004
22-12-2004, 17:20
we msut debate the topics at hand, msutn't we? It makes for mcuh mroe interesting shouting mtaches...

LMAO!!! Good show chap. :D
Snowboarding Maniacs
22-12-2004, 17:21
I'm an MIS major. (Management Information Systems) I just want to get back to my T6 connection, my building with 75 other people, and my nonexistant roommate.
T6? That exists? Are you sure you're not pullin that out of your butt? :)
Desra2004
22-12-2004, 17:23
T6? That exists? Are you sure you're not pullin that out of your butt? :)

hey...im a comp sci...All I have ever heard of is a T1 or a T3 (T6 may exist...but I seriously doubt it)
Snowboarding Maniacs
22-12-2004, 17:28
hey...im a comp sci...All I have ever heard of is a T1 or a T3 (T6 may exist...but I seriously doubt it)
Yeah I'm in comp sci too, and I've never heard of it. My school btw has dual T3s and dual OC3s (3x as fast as T3s each), and it's a major tech school, I've heard a couple times, but never seen it verified, that we have the fastest non-government connection on the East Coast.
Desra2004
22-12-2004, 17:31
Question: What is the white stuff in bird poop?
Answer: That is bird poop, too.

Acvtually...birds do not pee separeatly from pooping...it is bird pee (the white stuff)
Snowboarding Maniacs
22-12-2004, 17:36
Question: What is the white stuff in bird poop?
Answer: That is bird poop, too.

Acvtually...birds do not pee separeatly from pooping...it is bird pee (the white stuff)
I actually did know that...my mom loves birds, we currently have a parakeet, a zebra finch (who by all means should have probably at least 5 years ago, he's ancient), and a military macaw. :)
I just thought the quote was funny.
Desra2004
22-12-2004, 17:37
I actually did know that...my mom loves birds, we currently have a parakeet, a zebra finch (who by all means should have probably at least 5 years ago, he's ancient), and a military macaw. :)
I just thought the quote was funny.

Yes, it was...however most people do not know the horrid truth
Angry Fruit Salad
22-12-2004, 18:09
T6? That exists? Are you sure you're not pullin that out of your butt? :)


That's what the technolgy department likes to tell us. Whatever it is, it's hella fast, so I'm not complaining.