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Can obesity be considered a sin? I mean, you get obese through eating too much, which is also called gluttony, one of the seven sins.

I don't think so. Gluttony isn't specifically eating too much, it's just doing anything to excess. You can be a glutton for sex or violence or antique Russian dolls, if you do anything to excess, that's gluttony. Obesity isn't necessarily gluttony. You can get fat without eating to excess if you're completely inactive.

Can obesity be considered a sin? I mean, you get obese through eating too much, which is also called gluttony, one of the seven sins.

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You can get fat without eating to excess if you're completely inactive.
So you mean, erm, sloth, then?

I'm an aethiest, but from a Christian's perpective I suspect I'd say not always.

Obesity is not necessarily caused by eating too much, it could be caused by a bad metabolism and many more factors.

Well, it depends on how society views obesity. In some cultures, the larger you are the more you are respected. In some cultures, larger sizes mean more wealth and prestige, which also means, more respect.

It is not a matter of being a sin or not, but how your culture looks at obesity.

So you mean, erm, sloth, then?

Shush you. No disproving me allowed.

Like most sins, it is a matter of efficiency.

I think this poem is apt

Gluttony is obscene
it leads to Obesity
The fat population are mean
and blame it all on their metabolic rate

as a fatty i'd just like to say. no. being fat is not a sin. being shamelessly fat and waving your sweaty man boobs at passers by, being so fat that you ingest remote controls thru your skin (this actually happened i saw it on tv). being fat and not giving a fuck. thats a sin. as long as you're fat and unhappy, thats ok. lets hope the media keep shaming people into penetance

Yes, well, I can't see being obese as a sin, especially as a " blanket sin " to those who can't help it, forget eating ...

And the Lord Spoke, And It Was Good ( In Theory ) :

" THOU SHALL NOT BE A FATTY ! "

And Random Early Christian Replied :

" But I have a glandular condition so - "

( And Its Was Not Quite So Good It Seems ) :

" SILENCE ! THOU SHALL NOT QUESTION YOUR LORD G - "

And Yet :

" But if you made me, my Lord G - "

And The Lord was Wrath-Filled, And Much Wrath From Him Was Begatted :

" HERETIC ! I CHOOSE YOU, SMITE-E-MON ! "

( Hark, the of much smite being tossed on low )

And Then It Was Good ...

It's not a sin, just really gross!

why the f&%# does it matter whether it is a sin or not?

Obesisty itself is not a sin, but it can be the concequence of various other sins (gluttony, sloath etc). However this is not always the case. It can be caused by poor metabolic rate etc. So to say obesity itself is a sin is untrue, but sins can cause it.

obesity or a 'gainly' figure can be caused by many things, some of the largest people in my life are some of the most kind, generous and the most amazing people you will ever come across. I don't think enjoying your food a lot is really a sin.

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Owenarcia

The Jewish Oral Law tells says that a person should be careful to always eat bread for breakfast. Bread gives a person energy that lasts throughout the day. The Torah teaches how important it is that a person watch his health. Eating bread in the morning prevents many different kinds of sickness.

So watch your health includes don't be obese.

Yeah. Obese folks are probably already winning massive points in the sloth and gluttony events, so why give them more trouble?

Also, in this light, is the Monster Thickburger(rtmark) an abomination?

would anorexics then be not appreciating gods food , and so be sinning, ps god is so picky and pedantic

One thing is sure: if obesity is a sin, most of America is Hades-bound.

Hear that, Ronald? Better pack yer sunscreen!

Well if I belived in sin, obesity wouldn't be one, just the circumstances that lead to the obesity.

For the record, I don't buy those 'metabolic rate' or 'thyroid problem' excuses. You still have to intake the calories, fat doesn't materialize out of nothing.

Own your failings. Excuses only block solution.

"Obese" is a standard set by people in general.

you can be "Obese" without being a glutton.

I'm classifies as "obese" and I only eat one meal a day, in moderate proportions... Top that off with the fact that my work involves alot of sitting, and viola, weight control becomes a problem.

So classifying "obesity" as a sin, is in itself a sin. In that it acts in unjust jusgement upon another, since you base your judgement, rather than off fact, but off supposition and illusion. Rendering a false judgement (which is the same as false witness, and therefore a sin).

"Obese" is a standard set by people in general.

you can be "Obese" without being a glutton.

I'm classifies as "obese" and I only eat one meal a day, in moderate proportions... Top that off with the fact that my work involves alot of sitting, and viola, weight control becomes a problem.

So classifying "obesity" as a sin, is in itself a sin. In that it acts in unjust jusgement upon another, since you base your judgement, rather than off fact, but off supposition and illusion. Rendering a false judgement (which is the same as false witness, and therefore a sin).

But if weight control is a problem for you then you could always get up early and go running or some sort of excercise. Thus reducing the problem.

Well if I belived in sin, obesity wouldn't be one, just the circumstances that lead to the obesity.

For the record, I don't buy those 'metabolic rate' or 'thyroid problem' excuses. You still have to intake the calories, fat doesn't materialize out of nothing.

Own your failings. Excuses only block solution.

Metabolic rate is a massive factor; though not in all cases. I weight about 200 lbs, am only about 5'6" and only eat one meal a day... Chances are, in a survival situation... You'ld starve to death, long before I would. ;) Because my slow metabolism grants me a hell of a lot more efficiency of energy usage.

Though it's all somewhat meaningless, since "obesity" is a relative term, not based on hard facts. What is obese today, was not 1000 years ago, and may not be years from now.

Metabolic rate does indeed have EVERYTHING to do with it. I have an extremely high metabolism (it's a good idea for me to eat every three hours), and I can sit on my ass all summer and winter, and not gain an ounce.

sin is a standard set by the individual sects of different religions.
obesity can be a sin if your church SAYS it is.
so can jaywalking or wearing ugly clothing.

several churches believe that you are required to take good care of your body (gods gift to you) or you are committing a sin.

if you are in one of those churches and if you are obese because you do not take good care of yourself, then i guess you are sinning.

so shape up or find a nicer religion, its up to you eh?

But if weight control is a problem for you then you could always get up early and go running or some sort of excercise. Thus reducing the problem.

This assumes that I consider it a problem, I do not. I am perfectly happy being at my weight, have no desire to eat anymore, and simply hover around 190-200.

The biggest problem today, is that most people are more concerned with sticking their nose in others affairs, and acting in judgment of others, than looking after themselves....

To me, I find many of these skinny health-nuts, superficial and disgusting, involving their entire life around trying to look like the latest stick-figure on the cover of a magazine. And then acting in judgement of people who could really care less about all that moronic superficiality.

No problem for me... I could care less how much someone weights, if they want to loose weight, more power to them, if they want to look like Jabba, fine... Does it effect me? No.

obesity is EVIL!!!1 I mean, when women between 17 and 37 become fat, they take away a little bit of my live's joy. pretty evil i'd say..

Gluttony and sloth are the "sins". Obesity is just a consequence.

One thing is sure: if obesity is a sin, most of America is Hades-bound.


Well. Not according to the Christian faith.

Anyways...

This answer is according to Christian faith.

Obesity is only a sin when you put food over God.

"Thou shall not have any idols before me" - one of the ten comandments

An idol is anything that replaces God. Can be sex, drugs, work, school, tv, family, anything.

If you are obese but you still hold God before food. It is not a sin.

It's not a sin, just really gross!Go eat some celery, you stick insect! I'm gonna ingest me a side-o-beef, and then sit on the couch drinkin beer and watching TV...(in the words of Maxwell Smart)...and, loving it! :p