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My answer is a resounding yes.

Anyone agree/disagree?

No his boss should.....

Debate if you want, but this isn't intended to be a Dummy debate. (Zep already started one, in case anyone hasn't noticed) I just want to hear who thinks he should resign/not resign, and why.

Ya,

Rumsfeld is a douchebag. I would say a full 30% of the problems in Iraq before this war was his fault and at least 90% of the problems during this war are his fault. He was a fighter pilot for Pete's sake, not a command officer, so he's managed to ignore almost all of the logistics advice given. He's a jerk and and even worse he's incompetent.

No his boss should.....

Why not both?

Good, no naysayers so far. We should have gotten rid of him after Abu Ghraib.

"If I had my way, I'd have all of them shot"

At this point in the administration, why should he resign? Bush has shown that he doesn't care for popular opinion, and that he has his own agenda and will stop at nothing to fulfill it. This goes for his colleagues, as well. Rummy has certain objectives that he obviously wants to attain, so he would obviously stay in for the long haul.

The question should be, in this case, 'Why do you hate Rumsfeld?', or something of that nature. 'Should he resign' implies that he has done something illegal for which he should be forced to resign. (Not to say that he hasn't done anything bad) .

Well I guess I get to be the first to disagree with all of you. I think he is doing a fine job along with Bush. I find it great how you talk of how they should be shot yet give no reason why. If you are going to disagree with someone in office support your opinions with facts, when you do not do that you are only showing the rest of the world who the true idiots are, yourselves. Also I would like to point out that Bush won agaisnt Kerry by 3.5 million popular votes, that means that there are several million more people that agree with me or at least hated Kerry enough to want Bush in office again.

Yes, for sheer incompetence. If you're going to have a grand neo-conservative imperialist plan, you really should have a competent bastard for an architect.

Yes, for sheer incompetence. If you're going to have a grand neo-conservative imperialist plan, you really should have a competent bastard for an architect.

Lol, well said! :)

Well I guess I get to be the first to disagree with all of you. I think he is doing a fine job along with Bush. I find it great how you talk of how they should be shot yet give no reason why. If you are going to disagree with someone in office support your opinions with facts, when you do not do that you are only showing the rest of the world who the true idiots are, yourselves. Also I would like to point out that Bush won agaisnt Kerry by 3.5 million popular votes, that means that there are several million more people that agree with me or at least hated Kerry enough to want Bush in office again.

1. The "he should be shot" was one person, who was probably being sarcastic, everyone else had a pretty decent arguement. A better choice of words would have been "They should all be tried for war crimes.

2. 3.5 million is not that many people in the U.S. that still means about 57 million people disagree with the current state of the country.

3. (in referance to point 2) If you forgot, our country (if you are an American, but as you support Bush I would assume so) is founded on protecting the minority as well as the majority. So respect the fact that "slightly" less than half the country (barring the people who didn't vote) disagrees with you and deal with it.

4. Nowhere was Kerry mentioned in the original post. In fact I don't think he was mentioned in this thread at all. The only point being made was about Rumsfeld. It really annoys me how people assume by criticizing Bush people are saying Kerry is the best. Just as Kerry forgot Poland (probably the funniest thing Bush said the entire campaign), you forgot Nader. Half a million people voted for him, are you sure the people posting here don't back the Greens? You know what they say about assuming things.

no, because he's a perfect example of what his boss is like