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New World Order: Government Tyranny Via Government Terror (DA essay)

Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 11:54
An original, by me, DA.

Today in the United States, and indeed the world, we are seeing a movement to a one-world government entity commonly called the “New World Order”. This globalist agenda is seeking to destroy national sovereignty in the entire world and to institute a permanent state of martial law in all the nations of the world. The current main target of the New World Order seems to be the United States of America as we are the sole superpower in the world. The main mechanisms of the New World Order are militarization of the police, brainwashing of the youth and the armed forces, gun control legislation, erosion of authority of domestic courts in favor of “World Courts”, and there are other measures designed to turn our nation from a free republic into a police state that will serve the globalist agenda of the New World Order.

Many people who dare to speak of the New World Order are immediately decried as crazy conspiracy theorists, the sorts who claim “black helicopters” are flying in the night skies and are readying to takeover local governments. However, this is just not true, even the Army admits they are flying black helicopters and were practicing maneuvers to takeover responsibilities of local governments in southern Texas. According to David M. Bresnahan, a journalist for World Net Daily, in 1999, the army admitted that it was conducting operations in southern Texas to practice taking over local governments as part of a training operation “Last Dance” which included the use of Blackhawk helicopters (Bresnahan). Now ask yourself, why would the army need to practice to takeover local governments? Is this not in direct violation of the Act of Posse Comitatus of 1878?


The answer is clear, our government is getting ready for a takeover of local governments because they one day intend, or at least have contingency plans available, to take control of local governments for reasons that they refuse to divulge. A key part of this training is to desensitize the citizens to a military presence in their streets, and to get the armed forces in the mindset that it is okay for their services to be employed in a domestic security role. Another chilling aspect of this training is that it often incorporates local youth into mock informant programs to tattle on suspicious activity as in one operation where the Marines had five “insurgents” hidden in the town of Hebron, Maine, and their task was to find them. In that operation, they employed numerous youths to help.

Furthermore, the training for takeovers of local governments is often being conducted without warning of local authorities. Indeed, according to Alex Jones, a syndicated journalist with a radio show, in a small rural town in Arkansas there was an incident where two Delta Force operatives were killed by a sheriff’s deputy after they attempted to take his gun in an unannounced mock takeover of the local sheriff’s station. The deputy was never charged; the story made only local and county news, and then was buried after only a few days (Police State 2000).

This is how the New World Order works, if a story can’t be kept from being covered, they briefly cover it and then quickly move along, knowing that the short attention span and apathy of the public will ensure that nobody pays much attention to their activities. Anybody who paid attention to Oklahoma City in 1995 knows that it was possibly a government operation, carried out by the BATF.


According to Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, the former head of Air Force weapons design, with thirty years experience and multiple degrees in engineering, the asymmetrical nature of the blast damage at Oklahoma City couldn’t have been caused by anything other than bombs placed from within the building, rather than a low-grade truck bomb placed outside the building. He concludes that the blasts, well blasts, originated from within the building and were of such strength that only high-grade explosives could have caused them. His report was also shared with numerous non-government affiliated engineers around the world, and many agreed with his conclusions (911: The Road to Tyranny).

Furthermore, with regards to Oklahoma City, there is the matter of the University of Oklahoma’s seismographs, which clearly registered one massive explosion, and then almost immediately after the main explosion, it registered a series of explosions so close together that they could not be distinguished individually. As for the matter of multiple bombs, people who were inside the building and survived reported feeling at least two blasts, possibly more. One can also clearly remember the local law enforcement telling the media something to the extent of, “We have found two unexploded bombs inside the building, and local bomb squads are defusing them.” Indeed the bomb squads did defuse the bombs, but the BATF seized the bombs and took them away (911: The Road to Tyranny).

Perhaps even more telling is the fact that the ATF bomb squads arrived at the wreckage of the federal building about five minutes after the blasts and they were dressed in full bomb gear, which takes a total of thirty minutes to put on. When asked by a survivor of the attack, “Were you in the building, what happened?” one agent immediately replied, “No, we got warnings on our pagers not to come to work today.” That right there, is perhaps the most disturbing piece of evidence for government involvement in the attack; and not just one, but several agents admitted that morning that they had been forewarned and told to stay away (911: The Road to Tyranny).

However, the Oklahoma City bombing pales in comparison to the CIA orchestrated attack of September 11th, 2001. Many people may find it quite difficult to accept that the September 11th attacks were carried out by their own government, however it must be remembered that this is not the entire government, only a section of the government, and a very corrupt section. There were good people who tried to warn us about 911, and then after the fact they tried to blow the whistle about the operation, unfortunately most of them have either disappeared or committed suicide in very odd fashions (911: The Road to Tyranny). On September 10th, 2001, numerous top white house officials, pentagon officials, and other government agents, canceled all their flights, indeed Attorney General John Ashcroft stopped flying several months before September 11th. (Alex Jones)

Now that is has been established that the government had at the very least prior knowledge, and at the worst actual involvement in these horrible and atrocious attacks, however the motives must be covered. The government officials, even the various presidents at the times of these attacks, working on behalf of their New World Order handlers, had to get various legislation passed to systematically strip the American people of their Constitutional rights and the United States of her national sovereignty.

After Oklahoma City, Clinton was able to get S.735 passed, the “Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996”, a bill he had failed to get passed the year before the attack. After 911, Bush and his cronies were able to get the Patriot Act passed and they were also able to get the American people behind a war on terrorism. This war on terror, much like the war on drugs, has no end in sight; but will see the police becoming more like the military and will certainly see many of our rights and freedoms taken away in the name of security. This is the same idea that has been used throughout history by various tyrants and dictators, using terrorism against their own people to get their people to willingly surrender their right and freedoms. Perhaps the most startling example from recent world history would be the Nazis burning the Reichstag to allow Hitler to blame it on his political enemies and consolidate his power towards a total dictatorship. This is the equation, create a problem, react with shock and assure the people you’ll solve the problem, and then offer the solution, but in exchange for the solution that you offer, they will be required to give up key rights and liberties.

There are literally mountains of evidence of the New World Order, most telling are the elected officials own words, repeated time and time again either referring to or even naming the New World Order. On March 6th, 1991, President George Bush, in a speech to Congress, as is recorded in the Congressional Records, used the exact words “New World Order” when he said, “Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order” (Bush). Nothing short of an admission that there is indeed a New World Order plan underway in the world, and the United States. It is not just American leaders that throw around the term “New World Order” as a slap in the face to their own people, many world leaders are using the term. Indeed on October 12th, 2001, British Prime Minister Tony Blair set the theme of his party conference speech as being to establish a “New World Order” (BBC).

Sadly there is indeed a New World Order movement in the world today; it is not just something that can be dismissed as the overactive imaginations of semi-insane conspiracy theorists. There is a real move towards New World Order, as documented by the various speeches and writings of numerous world leaders, and as evidenced by their actions, in the name of greater global cooperation, towards moving the nations of the world into a one-world super government, likely under the United Nations, where the citizens will have precious few rights. The existence of the New World Order cannot, and must not be denied if people wish to remain free in the foreseeable future. The New World Order must be confronted head on and soundly defeated, and the best way to defeat it is through a campaign of mass awareness, spreading the word to the citizenry so that they wake up to the intrigues against their liberties. Only after the people are aware of the dangers against them, can they begin to oppose the forces working against them.






Works Cited

Bresnahan, David M. Yes, “Texas, there are black helicopters”. World Net Daily, September 1999: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16977.


Jones, Alex. “911: The Road to Tranny, DVD”. Austin Texas: Sacred Cow Productions, 2002.


Jones, Alex. “Police State 2000”. Austin Texas: Sacred Cow Productions, 2000.


Jones, Alex. “Police State 2: The Takeover”. Austin Texas: Sacred Cow Productions, 2000.


Jones, Alex. “Police State 3: Total Enslavement”. Austin Texas: Sacred Cow Productions, 2003.


Jones, Alex. “Warnings on the eve of the attack”. Prison Planet, 2001-2004: http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#eve.


Partin, Bentin K. Oklahoma City Bomb Report. USA: Congressional Record, July 30, 1995.


“Blair's push for new world order”. BBC News, October 12th, 2001: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1594675.stm.
Dimmimar
20-12-2004, 12:17
Very good! I'm impressed, you've convinced me (50/50). You could compare George Bush's actions to Orwellian literature, Big Brother kept a constant war on so that the people would hand their power to him.....
Lacadaemon
20-12-2004, 12:37
I liked this essay a lot.

But who do you think is behind the NWO? I have my own ideas, of course, but I would like to hear your thoughts.
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 12:41
I liked this essay a lot.

But who do you think is behind the NWO? I have my own ideas, of course, but I would like to hear your thoughts.


Council on Foreign Relations, The UN (just a puppet mechanism for the NWO though), neo-cons, liberals, etc... They're all just tools.


The real power behind the NWO would probably be the international bankers, the Trilateral Commission (Rockafeller and his cronies, the Skull and Bones, the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderbergers, types like Prince Philip)
Lacadaemon
20-12-2004, 12:45
Council on Foreign Relations, The UN (just a puppet mechanism for the NWO though), neo-cons, liberals, etc... They're all just tools.


The real power behind the NWO would probably be the international bankers, the Trilateral Commission (Rockafeller and his cronies, the Skull and Bones, the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderbergers, types like Prince Philip)

What always confuses me though is how these patsies go along with it. Ulitmately they'll be in just as much crap as the rest of us when the NWO comes down and a loaf of bread is a status symbol.
Kahta
20-12-2004, 14:41
very good
Communist Louisiana
20-12-2004, 16:43
I really found it to be interesting.


{TaG}
EASTERNBLOC
20-12-2004, 16:46
the eastern bloc is all powerful!! the politburo rules the people of htis cold land with a iron fist! without my lead, they will become lost.. join me in rebuilding this once proud naiton to its former glory!
Kahta
20-12-2004, 17:25
the eastern bloc is all powerful!! the politburo rules the people of htis cold land with a iron fist! without my lead, they will become lost.. join me in rebuilding this once proud naiton to its former glory!

ummm
The Parthians
20-12-2004, 18:35
Nice work.
New Granada
20-12-2004, 19:26
International courts?
Gun control laws?

Two things opposed by the neo-cons and the finance elite...


Bush Jr is the shill of the financial elite. His policies are their policies.
Your premise contradicts itself.
New Granada
20-12-2004, 19:32
There's something called a 'fallacy of equivocation.'


It is used in the essay above quite liberally, especially in regards to world leaders 'admitting the new world order is real.'

Bear in mind that the phrase 'new world order' only implies a 'one world government' to conspiracy theorists.

When spoken by somone other than a conspiracy theorist, it implies only a 'new order to the way things are in the world.'

A "new world order" arose with the fall of the soviets, again with the US bellicosity towards iraq. In fact, a new world order will come about when trade quotas expire on 1st jan.
Skalador
20-12-2004, 19:42
I can't say I'm completely convinced, but the essay is sound and has good arguments.

I'm doubtful about how they'll proceed to establish their NWO though. Unlike you, I think they'll just want to economically control most of the world, not take over every local government(although that might be what they're trying to do in the US, I doubt they'll bother with countries that aren't part of the G-8).
Roach-Busters
20-12-2004, 21:15
I find this essay not only brilliantly written, but entirely accurate. A perfect depiction of the 'New World Order,' which conspirators have sought for centuries, from the Illuminati to the communists to George H.W. "I Never Met a Dictator I Didn't Like" Bush. Those who decry so-called 'conspiracy theories,' laugh at their own enslavement. There was and is a conspiracy. This conspiracy has brought us two devastating World Wars, scores of 'police actions,' around the world, and the destruction of any and all anticommunists around the world. One could go down a long list of all the anticommunists who posed a threat to the 'New World Order,' and were backstabbed by our government:

1.Chiang Kai-shek of China
2.Draza Mihailovich of Yugoslavia
3.Stanislaw Mikolajczyk of Poland
4.Syngman Rhee of Korea
5.Rafael Trujillo of Dominican Republic
6.Fulgencio Batista of Cuba
7.Ian Smith of Rhodesia
8.Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran
9.Anastasio Somoza Debayle of Nicaragua
10.Pieter Willem Botha of South Africa
11.Moise Tshombe of Katanga
12.Jonas Savimbi of Angola
13.Augusto Pinochet of Chile
14.Nguyen Van Thieu of South Vietnam
15.Boun Oum of Laos
16.Lon Nol of Cambodia
17.Robert d'Aubuisson of El Salvador
18.Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines
19.George Patton, Douglas MacArthur, Joe McCarthy, and Otto Otepka of the United States

This is not surprising, considering the fact that the vast majority of the pundits who formulated our foreign policy for the past sixty years were members of the Council on Foreign Relations, an organization founded by a man named Edward Mandell House, an ardent internationalist who explicitly proclaimed that his "political and ethical faith" was "socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx," with "a spiritual leavening." I know none of you believe this. No problem. Read Philip Dru: Administrator, written by House himself. The novel is fictitious, but House admitted himself that the novel reflected his own views. Other books which reveal the inner workings of the conspiracy are Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quiggley, The Gravediggers, and The Betrayers by Phyllis Schlafley and Chester Ward, Trilaterals Over Washington by Antony Sutton and Patrick M. Wood, The Shadows of Power by James Perloff, None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allan, The Invisible Government by Dan Smoot, The Welfare States by Colonel Victor J. Fox, America's Unelected Rulers: The Council on Foreign Relations by Kent and Phoebe Courtney, The Tax-Empt Foundations by William McIlhany, The Insiders by John McManus, The Truth in Time by Robert Welch, Ideology and U.S. Foreign Policy by Michael H. Hunt, The Power Elite by C. Wright Mills, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements by Nesta H. Webster, Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League and the Hidden Paths of Power by Alexandra Robbins, America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones by Antony Sutton, Fleshing Out Skull & Bones by Anonymous, Anton Chaitkin, Antony Sutton, Toby Rogers, and Ralph Bunch, Trilaterals Over America by Antony Sutton, War on Gold by Antony Sutton, Taxscam by Alan Stang, The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin, Financial Terrorism by John McManus, The Establishment's Man by James Drummey, The Fourth Floor by Earl E.T. Smith, Nicaragua Betrayed by Anastasio Somoza and Jack Cox, Background to Betrayal by Hilaire du Berrier, America's Retreat From Victory: The Story of George Catlett Marshall by Senator Joseph McCarthy, Masters of Deceit by J. Edgar Hoover, I Saw Poland Betrayed by Arthur Bliss Lane, The Web of Subversion: Underground Networks in the U. S. Government by James Burnham, Inside the State Department and The Untouchable State Department by Bryton Barron, The Ordeal of Otto Otepka by William J. Gill, The Lattimore Story, While You Slept, and The Road Ahead: America's Creeping Revolution by John Flynn; Secret War for the A-Bomb and The Unsurpers by Medford Evans, Who Promoted Peress? by Lionel Likos, McCarthy by Roy Cohn, The Politician by Robert Welch, The Actor by Alan Stang, Richard Nixon: The Man Behind the Mask by Gary Allan, Henry Kissinger: Soviet Agent by Frank Cappell, Kissinger on the Couch by Phyllis Schlafley, Nixon and the CFR by Phoebe Courtney, None Dare Call it Treason and None Dare Call it Education by John Stormer, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America by Charlotte Thomson-Iserbyt, The Fearful Master: A Second Look at the United Nations by G. Edward Griffin, The United Nations Exposed by William Jasper, Global Gun Grab and Freedom on the Altar by William Norman Grigg, Inside the United Nations by Steve Bonta, The Lusitania by Colin Simpson, How Diplomats Make War by Francis Neilson, Churchill's War by David Irving, Changing Commands by John McManus, The Tragedy of Europe by Francis Neilson, America Goes to War by Charles Callan Tansill, Why Not Victory? and With No Apologies by Barry Goldwater, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, Wall Street and FDR, National Suicide: Military Aid to the Soviet Union, and The Best Enemy Money Can Buy by Antony Sutton, The Russian Space Bluff by Leonid Vladimirov, New Lies for Old and The Perestroika Deception by Anatoliy Golitsyn, The New Dealer's War and The Illusion of Victory by Thomas Fleming, Ally Betrayed by David Martin, Cuba Betrayed by Fulgencio Batista, The Great Betrayal by Ian Smith, Again, May God Forgive Us by Robert Welch, The Russian Face of Germany by Cecil Melville, Out of the Night by Jan Valtin, Satan and Swastika: The Occult and the Nazi Party by Francis King, And Not a Shot is Fired by Jan Kozak, Red Cocaine by Joseph Douglass, Through the Eyes of the Enemy by Stanislaw Lunev, Politics by Other Means by Morgan Norval, The Secret World of American Communism by Yale University, and Communist Conspiracy: Strategy and Tactics of World Communism by the House Un-American Activities Committee.
Roach-Busters
20-12-2004, 21:23
bump
Lance Cahill
20-12-2004, 21:30
I have heard that the E.U. is the NWO also, and on the one dollar bill under the illuminati in latin it says New World Order. Gen. Patton may have died suspiciously, he died after his jeep he riding in crashed in Germany.
Roach-Busters
20-12-2004, 21:37
I have heard that the E.U. is the NWO also, and on the one dollar bill under the illuminati in latin it says New World Order. Gen. Patton may have died suspiciously, he died after his jeep he riding in crashed in Germany.

The E.U. is indeed one of the key actors implementing the NWO, as are NAFTA, the WTO, the FTAA, the African Union, NATO, and of course, the UN.
The Black Forrest
20-12-2004, 21:45
Ok.

Here is a dumb question.

How would a world government be bad?
Roach-Busters
20-12-2004, 21:50
Ok.

Here is a dumb question.

How would a world government be bad?

There would tremendous potential for abuse of power; all nations' long, proud histories and traditions, cultures, etc. would be gone; etc.
The Black Forrest
20-12-2004, 21:58
There would tremendous potential for abuse of power; all nations' long, proud histories and traditions, cultures, etc. would be gone; etc.

But it is a part of the "growth" of this planet.

If we are to be a space faring civilization, it will not happen with over 200 goverments.

War can not be eliminated with over 200 goverments.

Culture can't be eliminated by 1 goverment. Culture is regional.

History would remain.

Mind you I will say that we are not ready for it now. Man still has the maturity of a child.
Euroslavia
20-12-2004, 22:03
Very nice work DA. Very nice indeed. There are a lot of points that I never really thought about. I'm actually going to copy and paste this into my livejournal, and of course, give you credit for it, and see what my friends think.

Great Job! :)
Roach-Busters
20-12-2004, 22:08
But it is a part of the "growth" of this planet.

If we are to be a space faring civilization, it will not happen with over 200 goverments.

War can not be eliminated with over 200 goverments.

Culture can't be eliminated by 1 goverment. Culture is regional.

History would remain.

Mind you I will say that we are not ready for it now. Man still has the maturity of a child.

A few other things: what if the government became a dictatorship, with the entire world military under its control? Who would stop it?

There is no type of government or economic system compatible with every type of person in the world. Some people work well with capitalism, others with socialism, some with monarchy, others with republican government, etc.
Kahta
20-12-2004, 22:19
Culture can't be eliminated by 1 goverment. Culture is regional.

History would remain.


Read 1984
Kahta
20-12-2004, 22:19
International courts?
Gun control laws?

Two things opposed by the neo-cons and the finance elite...


Bush Jr is the shill of the financial elite. His policies are their policies.
Your premise contradicts itself.

The neo-cons act like they oppose them, but is anything done? Those are a few examples of ways that the public is pleased.
Aztec National League
20-12-2004, 23:00
This is a great essay. Not only is it well research and perfectly written, it presents several interesting points. Although I would think it would be extremely difficult to establish a singular international body to replace the hundreds of national governments, I can not refute what you have said. I looked up the Act of Posse Comitatus, and I would have to agree, Operation Last Dance and the other examples listed in your essay are all direct violations.
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 23:02
International courts?
Gun control laws?

Two things opposed by the neo-cons and the finance elite...


Bush Jr is the shill of the financial elite. His policies are their policies.
Your premise contradicts itself.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32074


Gun supporters baffled
by Bush stance
White House backs renewal of 'assault weapons' ban

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Posted: April 15, 2003
5:00 p.m. Eastern
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 23:05
Ok.

Here is a dumb question.

How would a world government be bad?


Imagine the wealth of the USA, only "Equally" distributed amongst the world. The same with the rest of the world. Everything gets tossed into one pot, and then "equally" distributed (With the leaders getting the most of the "Equal" shares, and now the whole world being peasant serfts in classic Soviet style)
Haverton
20-12-2004, 23:13
Nice essay, but you ommited a few key points:

Firstly, you forgot the source of all this evil: The Jews. Through the secret Illuminati organization, they control all the world's doings through their base of operations at the center of the earth! It's all there in the foldout in Jon Stewart's book America (The Book)!!!! Oh crap! It's the black helicopters with the jackbooted stormtroopers here to take me to the reNeducation center! Quick! OPEN YOUR EYES! OPEN YOUR EYES!! Wait, what! No, get your hands off of me, you Gestapo bastards! Fight the power! Fight the pow-


Note by anonymous public servant: This message was written by a crazy conspiracy theorist. Do not believe it. I repeat, do not believe it. There is no Illuminati Jew conspiracy. I repeat, no Illuminati Jew conspiracy. Watch Fox News at 9 to see Sean Hannity repeat to you, that neo-cons are good, there is no conspiracy, there is no conspiracy...
Kahta
22-12-2004, 02:25
Nice essay, but you ommited a few key points:

Firstly, you forgot the source of all this evil: The Jews. Through the secret Illuminati organization, they control all the world's doings through their base of operations at the center of the earth! It's all there in the foldout in Jon Stewart's book America (The Book)!!!! Oh crap! It's the black helicopters with the jackbooted stormtroopers here to take me to the reNeducation center! Quick! OPEN YOUR EYES! OPEN YOUR EYES!! Wait, what! No, get your hands off of me, you Gestapo bastards! Fight the power! Fight the pow-


Note by anonymous public servant: This message was written by a crazy conspiracy theorist. Do not believe it. I repeat, do not believe it. There is no Illuminati Jew conspiracy. I repeat, no Illuminati Jew conspiracy. Watch Fox News at 9 to see Sean Hannity repeat to you, that neo-cons are good, there is no conspiracy, there is no conspiracy...

Idiocy ignored...
Superpower07
22-12-2004, 02:26
Coming from a guy like DA, I don't trust this one bit
Portu Cale
22-12-2004, 02:51
A few other things: what if the government became a dictatorship, with the entire world military under its control? Who would stop it?

There is no type of government or economic system compatible with every type of person in the world. Some people work well with capitalism, others with socialism, some with monarchy, others with republican government, etc.


Who would stop it? The people. There are numerous cases of the people throwing down dictatorships without foreign aid. There are even cases of the military throwing down their own goverment dictatorships and installing democratic regimes.

One could analyse a world goverment having the role that the US federal goverment as towards the individual states.
Kahta
22-12-2004, 03:33
Coming from a guy like DA, I don't trust this one bit

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
Kahta
09-02-2005, 03:50
bump
Antebellum South
09-02-2005, 03:55
Good essay.
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 04:29
Coming from a guy like DA, I don't trust this one bit

Did you check my list of sources?
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 22:19
bump
Von Witzleben
09-02-2005, 22:25
I liked this essay a lot.

But who do you think is behind the NWO?
The US of course. Since they are pressing for globalisation. Also it was Bill Clinton I believe who used the words New World Order on TV after the gulfwar.
Kanendru
09-02-2005, 22:28
Before you all go off and get bilked into thinking this DA guy is on your side.. keep in mind he's a self-professed white supremacist militant, and part of the organized, racist right.

It's true that the powers that be want to exploit and dominate the world, but the idea of a one-world government is silly and unrealistic. How would it come to power? How would the many different contradictions and conflicts between the ruling classes of the imperialist nations (EU, US, etc) be worked out? France's interests aren't the same as Americas which aren't the same as the Russians, etc. Why would the rulers of these various nations ever agree to go along with this when it's not in their objective interests to do so?
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 22:33
The US of course. Since they are pressing for globalisation. Also it was Bill Clinton I believe who used the words New World Order on TV after the gulfwar.

It was W.'s dad, actually. And it's not a particular country that's behind the New World Order per se, but rather certain groups in different countries, among them the CFR (U.S.), the Royal Institute of International Affairs (U.K.), TC (U.S., Western Europe, Japan), etc.
Von Witzleben
09-02-2005, 22:35
It was W.'s dad, actually. And it's not a particular country that's behind the New World Order per se, but rather certain groups in different countries, among them the CFR (U.S.), the Royal Institute of International Affairs (U.K.), TC (U.S., Western Europe, Japan), etc.
Ah well. I knew it was a US president.
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 22:36
Ah well. I knew it was a US president.

Yep, H.W. loved to talk about the NWO. He prattled on and on about it all the time, until his colleagues told him to shut up.
Sinuhue
09-02-2005, 22:38
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
There is a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda. Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet and to dramatically reduce the world's population by 5.5 Billion people.

AHAHAHHAAAA!!!!! I love this kind of stuff...this one from the same site is good too:

The dangers of vaccinations to your child's long term health prospects and longevity itself far outweigh any potential benefits touted by the pharmaceutical industry for vaccines. The LIES and misinformation about vaccine benefits from the drug industry is voluminous, overwhelming, and statistically provable. Don't allow your child to go on the chopping block for these Liars and their profit margins. They aren't working for you, they're servants of the corporate elite/Illuminati and the Illuminati has a surreptitious population reduction agenda in place.

That's right! Don't vaccinate your children, even though childhood diseases are still the number one cause of mortality in the world (except in nations with a good vaccination program)!
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 22:40
AHAHAHHAAAA!!!!! I love this kind of stuff...this one from the same site is good too:



That's right! Don't vaccinate your children, even though childhood diseases are still the number one cause of mortality in the world (except in nations with a good vaccination program)!

Ignore that crap. Read my list on the bottom of page 1 for the real thing.
Sinuhue
09-02-2005, 22:42
Ignore that crap. Read my list on the bottom of page 1 for the real thing.
Ay, Roach, you always list these sources but provide no links...I'm not about to run to the library and order these in (because I doubt they'd have them on hand), THEN get back to you a month later about them....really.
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 22:51
Ay, Roach, you always list these sources but provide no links...I'm not about to run to the library and order these in (because I doubt they'd have them on hand), THEN get back to you a month later about them....really.

Most of 'em are out of print, and few if any of them have links. :(
Neo-Anarchists
09-02-2005, 22:54
Most of 'em are out of print, and few if any of them have links. :(
Damn.
I wanted to have a look at those.
I guess I'll have to scout about and see if I can actually find anything...
Sinuhue
09-02-2005, 22:54
Most of 'em are out of print, and few if any of them have links. :(
Then no offense, but they don't do us much good here. ESPECIALLY the out of print ones.
VoteEarly
09-02-2005, 22:57
Surf the web, you'll find most of them, probably...
Super-power
09-02-2005, 22:58
I do believe that gravedigging is against forum rules
Roach-Busters
09-02-2005, 23:02
Check www.amazon.com and the 'Used and Out of Print,' section of www.barnesandnoble.com. www.halfpricebooks.com is another good place to search. Granted, many of the books you won't be able to find, but most of them you should be able to find. However, I doubt anybody would be willing to blow that much money on some books just because some crackpot from NS recommended them. ;)
Sinuhue
09-02-2005, 23:14
Check www.amazon.com and the 'Used and Out of Print,' section of www.barnesandnoble.com. www.halfpricebooks.com is another good place to search. Granted, many of the books you won't be able to find, but most of them you should be able to find. However, I doubt anybody would be willing to blow that much money on some books just because some crackpot from NS recommended them. ;)
You're right. I for one am not willing.
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 23:27
I'm not entirely convinced but that's a really interesting and convincing essay.

The US government has being working to bring the world economically under the US sway since at least 1945 if not since 1900. There are ever increasing signs in the past few decades that there is an accompanying mission to bring the world under the scope of US political and social influence.
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 23:37
Before you all go off and get bilked into thinking this DA guy is on your side.. keep in mind he's a self-professed white supremacist militant, and part of the organized, racist right.
This is why I was surprised to see him worrying over lost civil liberties! He may be a white supremacist militant, but that does not make everyinthg he says automatically and completely wrong.
Kanendru
10-02-2005, 21:43
This is why I was surprised to see him worrying over lost civil liberties! He may be a white supremacist militant, but that does not make everyinthg he says automatically and completely wrong.

No, but it does make his analysis totally off kilter. Let me make an analogy: suppose you're in the forest in a group, and you're lost as hell, and the path you're currently heading down is going to take you into a section of the woods that's chock-full of mean 'ole grizzly bears.

Now, some people in your group are saying that everything's fine and we should keep going the way we're going. One person correctly points out the fact that the group is lost and that they're on the wrong path... but suggests a path that would lead everybody off the side of a cliff. In my opinion, both are equally dangerous. DA is the latter, and the ruling establishment is the former.

Or DA could be the grizzly bear if you wanted, but it would kinda fudge up the analogy a little.
Arammanar
10-02-2005, 21:48
Hey guys! Look what I found!

http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-173759NWO-_Government_tyranny_through_Government_terror.html
Kanendru
11-02-2005, 06:31
Heh. I thought so. Alex Jones and WorldNet Daily.. excellent sourcing on that there article.