NationStates Jolt Archive


Should Education be stripped from state control

Invidentia
19-12-2004, 10:13
I say yes.. having no standards running across each state it is clear some children receive better educations then others, and states have proven that they are rarely able to fund their own education programs efficently.. why shouldn't education.. a building block of our society then be given to federal control.. Federal funds are already being funneld to states for education programs, but no standards exist ...

on a side note.. someone recently posted this site www.creationist.org to support the creationist theory.. i implore those of you who are creationist to tell me this is not the basis of the theory.. as a devote catholic myself i can't belive this interpreation is being widly held and propogated in education systems.
The Black Forrest
19-12-2004, 10:33
No. Leave it with the states.

The feds couldn't do much better. In fact, it would be worst as the Republicans are now the Christian party so education would really go down.

Creationism belongs in the comparative Relgions class.

The site posted is pretty wanky on the arguements. There are better.....
Dunbarrow
19-12-2004, 15:43
Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Of course creationism is for retards. But retardism is no reason to violate the Constitution of the United States.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 15:46
If the states have problems funding schools, legalize gambling, or have a lottery and use all gambling procedes to fund schools. I believe some states do this already, and have good results.
Los Banditos
19-12-2004, 15:47
If the states have problems funding schools, legalize gambling, or have a lottery and use all gambling procedes to fund schools. I believe some states do this already, and have good results.
We do that in Kansas. It works out well enough.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 15:47
Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Of course creationism is for retards. But retardism is no reason to violate the Constitution of the United States.

If you fully believe in evolution, you must be retarded as it is a theory, just like creationism. Everyone is retarded then who believes in any theory.
Saipea
19-12-2004, 15:49
If you fully believe in evolution, you must be retarded as it is a theory, just like creationism. Everyone is retarded then who believes in any theory.

CREATIONISM IS NOT A THEORY!

Idiots.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 15:49
We do that in Kansas. It works out well enough.


Exactly. Gold Star for me!!!
Kwangistar
19-12-2004, 15:49
Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Of course creationism is for retards. But retardism is no reason to violate the Constitution of the United States.
Unfortunately there hasn't been a Supreme Court willing to enforce this for a while it seems :(
Eichen
19-12-2004, 15:51
I can't believe this is up for debate. Leave it up to the states.
Or better yet, leave it up to the parents and offer vouchers.
Saipea
19-12-2004, 15:52
We do that in Kansas. It works out well enough.

So... how is the education system in Kansas?

I mean, seeing as how it's in the Midwest, a Bush state, and... well...

http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/12/kansas.evolution.flap/
Eichen
19-12-2004, 15:53
Unfortunately there hasn't been a Supreme Court willing to enforce this for a while it seems :(
No kidding. Hear about the 2 ill women being busted for growing their own medicininal marijuana in California, where it's legal with a prescription?
Sad.
Los Banditos
19-12-2004, 15:53
So... how is the education system in Kansas?

I mean, seeing as how it's in the Midwest, a Bush state, and... well...

http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/12/kansas.evolution.flap/
That was over-turned a few weeks later. If I remember correctly, Kansas was towards the top out of all the states (at least the top 20).
Saipea
19-12-2004, 15:54
I can't believe this is up for debate. Leave it up to the states.
Or better yet, leave it up to the parents and offer vouchers.

That's right, let's leave it to all of the parents. The imbeciles who don't know how to think, vote, or live.

Fine! See what I care. You're only helping make more proletariat slaves to serve me in my age.
Saipea
19-12-2004, 15:55
That was over-turned a few weeks later. If I remember correctly, Kansas was towards the top out of all the states (at least the top 20).

Heh. I'm pwned. I really shouldn't talk. LAUSD is aweful.
Los Banditos
19-12-2004, 15:57
Heh. I'm pwned. I really shouldn't talk. LAUSD is aweful.
Well, that was a dumb thing that the Board of Education did. That is what happens when parents pressure school board officals. It pissed a lot of people off here.
Eichen
19-12-2004, 16:00
That's right, let's leave it to all of the parents. The imbeciles who don't know how to think, vote, or live.

Fine! See what I care. You're only helping make more proletariat slaves to serve me in my age.
Exactly! Allow these parents who want to teach creationism and the like send their little angels to schools with their preferred curriculums in lieu of real studies.
I wouldn't be worried about these slackjawed wunderkinds undercutting me in tomorrows market.
Saipea
19-12-2004, 16:35
Enough bickering, leave the smartass comments to me, or those who know how to cut deep and keep walking.

Creationism is NOT a theory. It is not a set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena. It has not been repeatedly tested or widely accepted as a model to make predictions about natural phenomena. It has no standing as an arguement, religiously, or scientifically, and is so completely random and out there that it makes modern art look like a well devised masterpiece.
Zeppistan
19-12-2004, 16:35
If you fully believe in evolution, you must be retarded as it is a theory, just like creationism. Everyone is retarded then who believes in any theory.


Of course, gravity is just a theory too, however most of us believe in it enough not to jump off of tall buildings just to test it for ourseves....