NationStates Jolt Archive


Red vs blue businesses.

Matalatataka
19-12-2004, 09:24
Blue Christmas

http://www.mobylives.com/xmasblue.html

by Dennis Loy Johnson

15 December 2004 — For book lovers out there who are still stubbornly insisting that the rise of Christian fundamentalism homophobic right wing government is not necessarily a good thing, I bring glad tidings: You can do something about it and simultaneously take care of all your holiday book shopping needs, thanks to a new website that reveals the political donations of major retailers.

For example, wondering whether to buy books online at Amazon.com or at BarnesandNoble.com? Does it make the decision easier for you to know that 98% of B&N's corporate political donations went to the Democrats, while 61% of Amazon's went to the Republicans?

Or maybe you'll be encouraged to get offline entirely and shop at an oldfashioned brick and mortar store upon hearing the news that Borders gave 100% or its donations to Democrats?

Those are some of the revelations to be found at Buyblue.org, a new website founded by a group of people who met through the political blog The Daily Kos.

"It is about corporate transparency, but it is also about bringing political power back to individuals," one of the founders, Raven Brooks, told the Cleveland Plain Dealer. Brooks, a computer systems analyst in San
Francisco, says, "Where you spend your money every day matters. Nine times out of 10, corporations act contrary to consumer interests, but we still patronize them and don't hold them accountable."

Innumerable retailers are listed at the site, from WalMart (red) to Foot Locker (blue) to Costco (blue) to Sears (red) and The Limited (red).

The Amazon numbers may be the most surprising on the site, however. As one entry on Buyblue's blog notes—an entry entitled, "Say it ain't so, Jeff"—"It seems counterintuitive for a company patronized by so many progressives to turn around and donate their money to causes antithetical to their constituents¹ values."

The entry also details what those constituents can do about it, however, and as it turns out, there's quite a bit more that can be done beyond merely shopping at a competitor whose views are more simpatico.

For one thing, Buyblue provides visitors with a list of alternative retailers. And what if an Amazon customer, say, "also wants to lodge a protest at this company he has been supporting for years thinking they espoused progressive values?" There's information about how to do that, including the email address of Amazon CEO and founder Jeff Bezos.

And what if Bezos "chooses to respond with Amazon's customary 'don't let the door hit you on the way out' form letter as a reply"? Information is available about the companies that invest in Amazon, and how to contact them, too. There's also information about groups gathering to "protest Amazon's finance of a right wing agenda," and info about the boycott those groups are planning "in a couple of weeks."

As the site explains, the theory behind Buyblue is that "when politicians and corporations collude to form policy very rarely are the long term effects on individuals taken into account. We need to change that and this is our seat at the table."

Reasonably enough, the theory continues, "Corporations are profitmaking machines that have no allegiance to law or country. The only way to make them act ethically is to make it profitable to do so. By withholding and subsequently returning our revenue we will provide the financial incentive necessary for to move corporations toward sustainability. By aggregating our effort through Buyblue.org we will be able to show them the exact amount of revenue they stand to win by acting ethically. This is no different than any other free market business negotiation."

Of course, Amazon has avoided the seemingly logical dictates of sound economic principles before—they've survived for ten years without making a legitimate profit, after all. Still, it will be interesting to see what happens if their clientele is reduced to the folks they've been donating money to—you know, the ones who only read that one book.

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Tear it up y'all! Merry X-mas!
Armored Ear
19-12-2004, 09:25
ugh that was too long for me to read at this hour, but i bet it was good. was it? somebody tell me about it.
Haloman
19-12-2004, 09:26
Oh Noes Big Coporations Bad!!!!!!!!11!!shift!1!!!!!
Joshui
19-12-2004, 09:31
This excerpt has been paraphrased from memory from the Rooster Teeth website of RedVSBlue. Please don't sue me.
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I thought that was the red VS Blue you were talking about, thats really funny stuff, you should go there. The one about politics.....i try not to get caught up in all the hoopla.
Dobbs Town
19-12-2004, 09:37
That was good for a laugh. Vote with your wallet, people. Your politicians campaign with theirs, after all. And their wallets are filled with dollars from your favorite stores. And really, those are your dollars getting put inside those big juicy wallets in your politician's back pockets.

Be choosy as to whose wallet you want your money to end up in. Be choosy, and shop smart.

Heh-heh. I gotta...

- shop, 'S-Mart'!
Tha Imperial Republic
19-12-2004, 09:42
damn. i thought this was about the Halo Red vs. Blue. That shit is funny.
Matalatataka
19-12-2004, 09:46
Let me shorten it up a bit. Summary: Do you know how the business you are buying from donate their money politically?

Specific example: Amazon.com, a company patronized by so many progressives, donate their money to causes antithetical to their constituents' values. 61% of Amazon's political donations went to the Republicans.

You can visit the site

www.Buyblue.org

to learn how various businessess support political groups, where you can go if you want alternatives to shopping at a retailer that doesn't support your politrical views, and more.

There's more to it, but this is the gist of the article.


What I'm hoping will ensue is a discussion/debate/arguement about corporate transparency, or the lack thereof, and what in this time of the yearly christmas spending frenzy we as consumers can do to take back a bit of our power from the corporations BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!! :D
Armored Ear
19-12-2004, 09:46
buy from amazon.com!
The Force Majeure
19-12-2004, 10:43
buy from amazon.com!

Hear hear...that's the most refreshing news I have heard in a while.
Siljhouettes
20-12-2004, 01:19
Interesting how donating money to Republicans is considered "Corporate corruption" but donating money to Democrats is good.

I'm strongly anti-Republican, but I do like to point out hypocrisy.

Anyway..... buy Diageo! (Guinness, Smirnoff, etc...)

Avoid Shell Oil, they're unethical.