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Post your thoughts, but be careful what you say.

Remember, he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows when you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake!

:rolleyes: I can't believe we're actually discussing this.
OK, let me put it like this: Santa does not exist in this universe, or at least not on this version of Earth. He does, however, exist in an alternate reality, as does any and all other fictional characters. Quantum theory states that anything that can happen, does happen, in an alternate quantum reality.
But for this one? He's definitely a glass of German Lemon Juice. ^_^

He's a spook.

shhh...be quiet....he knows..he know when you been naughty...

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Definately a spook. Who else keeps a list like that?

Quantum Mechanics proves nothing, that universe may have already ceased to exist.

You're all wrong.

He holds the fourth chair of the Illuminati inner circle!

Quantum Mechanics proves nothing, that universe may have already ceased to exist.
Whether it has ceased to exist or not is beside the point; the very fact that it could cease to exist proves it existed and thus proves my point.

Wrong Wrong Wrong!!!

Santa is Satan, he just switched the n from the back of his middle name to the front to decieve You!

Why do you think he comes down on Christmas, the birthday of our lord and savior and corrupts the most holy day of the year with crass materialism?

Do you know who tempted Jesus with all the worldly possessions he could desire? Thats right Satan!

Do you know who wears an all red suit and a hat to hide his pointy devil horns? Satan again!

Who else would be evil enough to make every child on earth sit on his lap and be infected with the most sinful disease of homosexuality?
SATAN!

Young impressionable children of nationstates, you must kill santa! He is the devil! :mad: <--- Look it is Satan's true self revealed!
There is only one soulution:
:mad: :sniper:

Like I said, Fourth Chair of the Illuminati inner circle.

Wrong Wrong Wrong!!!

Santa is Satan, he just switched the n from the back of his middle name to the front to decieve You!

Why do you think he comes down on Christmas, the birthday of our lord and savior and corrupts the most holy day of the year with crass materialism?

Do you know who tempted Jesus with all the worldly possessions he could desire? Thats right Satan!

Do you know who wears an all red suit and a hat to hide his pointy devil horns? Satan again!

Who else would be evil enough to make every child on earth sit on his lap and be infected with the most sinful disease of homosexuality?
SATAN!

Young impressionable children of nationstates, you must kill santa! He is the devil! :mad: <--- Look it is Satan's true self revealed!
There is only one soulution:
:mad: :sniper:
Oh hell, you are a moron in so many ways with this post. First of all, the word Santa is a deriviation of Saint Nicolous, a famous person noted for giving children gifts every year of his life. The kids couldn't pronounce his name very well and ended up saying Saint Nicolous as Sane-Nick-Klaus. Santa Claus.
Second, you need to learn about how Christmas ended up on December 25th.
Third, people gave gifts to their family on Christmas at first due to the Wisemen's gifts and then later Santa; it had nothing to do with Satan.
Oh, and calling homosexuality a disease just shows your complete ignorance of fact.
In closing, STFU and go away.

Wrong Wrong Wrong!!!

Santa is Satan, he just switched the n from the back of his middle name to the front to decieve You!

Why do you think he comes down on Christmas, the birthday of our lord and savior and corrupts the most holy day of the year with crass materialism?

Do you know who tempted Jesus with all the worldly possessions he could desire? Thats right Satan!

Do you know who wears an all red suit and a hat to hide his pointy devil horns? Satan again!

Who else would be evil enough to make every child on earth sit on his lap and be infected with the most sinful disease of homosexuality?
SATAN!

Young impressionable children of nationstates, you must kill santa! He is the devil! :mad: <--- Look it is Satan's true self revealed!
There is only one soulution:
:mad: :sniper:

No, Christianism is the Great Satan. Why else would the word "holy" be almost the same as for "Great Demon"?

The Yule Goat / Yule Old Man is a "keeper", an essential guardian angel. Of course he knows what you do.

No, Christianism is the Great Satan. Why else would the word "holy" be almost the same as for "Great Demon"?

The Yule Goat / Yule Old Man is a "keeper", an essential guardian angel. Of course he knows what you do.

Oh you unholy blasphemer, may the Lord forgive you, for you know not what you say!

Satan once was God's favorite angel. But he tried a heavenly coup and God should have by all rights killed him right then and there. But God, being all that is good, gave him his very own place to rule and called it Hell. And even though God gave Satan free reign to tempt as many people as he wanted (even Christ Himself!) and lots of fabulous stuff to tempt them with (like eternal youth and Lincoln Continentals), Satan was still not satisfied. It made him jealous that Americans have made Christmas the most important retail event of the year, far overshadowing Satan's own holiday, Halloween. So Satan has tried to undermine Christmas by making Santa even more popular than Jesus!

You don't think so? Even the law of the land forbids a baby Jesus in the town square, but who is there instead? You guessed it! Santa! Every time a so-called Christian child asks Santa for something, he is praying to Satan. With each request fulfilled, parents are unwittingly making a pact with the Devil. They may as well be writing in blood, "Satan please distract our children from Jesus with all these shiny toys!" But you know what? When your little boys and girls have grown up and no longer believe that Santa is real, they will find out just how real Satan is when he comes to collect their souls in exchange for all those presents! And God will turn a deaf ear to their pathetic wails of desperation. God will say, "You were more interested in that fat demon who was giving you presents than my Son who was giving you salvation, so you can all rot in Hell for all I care."

So talk to your children before it is too late! Tell them that Santa is no kindly old man; he is an evil demon. And next time your family sees some propped up gin-soaked vagrant in a Mall wearing a red suit with white furry cuffs, set a good example and witness for the other deluded people waiting in line. Loudly, rebuke him! Announce to all the children in the store "Not only is Santa a lie, he will ravage you sexually, drink your blood and drag your palpating carcasses down to Hell with him!" It is only through setting a good example that we can put the Christ back in Christmas.

Actually Santa did exist at one point. Nicolas, was vorn in Patara, a village in present day Turkey. His parents were rich goverment workers who raised him Christian. They died when Nick was young. Flowwing what he learned from the bible about giving, he gave his entire inheritance to needy poeple. He was later promoted Bishop of Myria. He became known throughout the land. The roman emporer I believe was Diocletian, hated Christians, and made Bishop Nicholas suffer for his faith. he was exiled and imprisoned. It is believed he died on Dec 6, AD 343 in Myra and was buried in his cathedral, where a unique relic, called manna, formed in his grave. This liquid substance was said to have healing powers, the day of his death became St Nicolas Day.

How did the kindly Christian saint, good Bishop Nicholas, become a roly-poly red-suited American symbol for merry holiday festivity and commercial activity?

The first Europeans to arrive in the New World brought St. Nicholas. Vikings dedicated their cathedral to him in Greenland. On his first voyage, Columbus named a Haitian port for St. Nicholas on December 6, 1492. In Florida, Spaniards named an early settlement St. Nicholas Ferry, now known as Jacksonville. However, St. Nicholas had a difficult time during the 16th century Protestant Reformation which took a dim view of saints. Even though both reformers and counter-reformers tried to stamp out St. Nicholas-related customs, they had very little long-term success; only in England were the religious folk traditions of Christmas permanently altered. (It is ironic that fervent Puritan Christians began what turned into a trend to a more secular Christmas observance.) Because the common people so loved St. Nicholas, he survived on the European continent as people continued to place nuts, apples, and sweets in shoes left beside beds, on windowsills, or before the hearth.


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Colonists came to America after the Reformation in the 1500s. They were primarily Puritans and other Protestant reformers who did not bring Nicholas traditions to the New World. What about the Dutch? Although it is nearly universally reported that the Dutch did bring St. Nicholas to New Amsterdam, scholars find limited evidence of such traditions in Dutch New Netherland Colonial Germans in Pennsylvania held the feast of St. Nicholas, and several accounts do have St. Nicholas visiting New York Dutch on New Years' Eve. Patriots formed the Sons of St. Nicholas in 1773, not to honor Bishop Nicholas, but rather as a non-British symbol to counter the English St. George societies. This St. Nicholas society was similar to the Sons of St. Tammany in Philadelphia. Not exactly St. Nicholas, the children's gift-giver.



After the American Revolution, New Yorkers remembered with pride the colony's nearly-forgotten Dutch roots. John Pintard, influential patriot and antiquarian, who founded the New York Historical Society in 1804, promoted St. Nicholas as patron saint of both society and city. In January 1809, Washington Irving joined the society and on St. Nicholas Day that year he published the satirical Knickerbocker's History of New York, which made numerous references to a jolly St. Nicholas character. This was not a saintly bishop, rather an elfin Dutch burgher with a clay pipe. These delightful flights of imagination are the origin of the New Amsterdam St. Nicholas legends: that the first Dutch emigrant ship had a figurehead of St. Nicholas; that St. Nicholas Day was observed in the colony; that the first church was dedicated to him: and that St. Nicholas comes down chimneys to bring gifts. Irving's work was regarded as the "first notable work of imagination in the New World."

The New York Historical Society held its first St. Nicholas anniversary dinner on December 6, 1810. John Pintard commissioned artist Alexander Anderson to create the first American image of Nicholas for the occasion. Nicholas was shown in a gift-giving role with children's treats in stockings hanging at a fireplace. The accompanying poem ends, "Saint Nicholas, my dear good friend! To serve you ever was my end, If you will, now, me something give, I'll serve you ever while I live."

The jolly elf image received a big boost in 1823, from a poem destined to become immensely popular, "A Visit from St. Nicholas," now better known as "The Night Before Christmas."

How I know this was becuase I leanred about ST Nick from History Class, and the how he became Santa, I got from a book I have in my desk.

Actually Santa did exist at one point. Nicolas, was vorn in Patara, a village in present day Turkey. His parents were rich goverment workers who raised him Christian. They died when Nick was young. Flowwing what he learned from the bible about giving, he gave his entire inheritance to needy poeple. He was later promoted Bishop of Myria. He became known throughout the land. The roman emporer I believe was Diocletian, hated Christians, and made Bishop Nicholas suffer for his faith. he was exiled and imprisoned. It is believed he died on Dec 6, AD 343 in Myra and was buried in his cathedral, where a unique relic, called manna, formed in his grave. This liquid substance was said to have healing powers, the day of his death became St Nicolas Day.

How did the kindly Christian saint, good Bishop Nicholas, become a roly-poly red-suited American symbol for merry holiday festivity and commercial activity?

The first Europeans to arrive in the New World brought St. Nicholas. Vikings dedicated their cathedral to him in Greenland. On his first voyage, Columbus named a Haitian port for St. Nicholas on December 6, 1492. In Florida, Spaniards named an early settlement St. Nicholas Ferry, now known as Jacksonville. However, St. Nicholas had a difficult time during the 16th century Protestant Reformation which took a dim view of saints. Even though both reformers and counter-reformers tried to stamp out St. Nicholas-related customs, they had very little long-term success; only in England were the religious folk traditions of Christmas permanently altered. (It is ironic that fervent Puritan Christians began what turned into a trend to a more secular Christmas observance.) Because the common people so loved St. Nicholas, he survived on the European continent as people continued to place nuts, apples, and sweets in shoes left beside beds, on windowsills, or before the hearth.


"
Colonists came to America after the Reformation in the 1500s. They were primarily Puritans and other Protestant reformers who did not bring Nicholas traditions to the New World. What about the Dutch? Although it is nearly universally reported that the Dutch did bring St. Nicholas to New Amsterdam, scholars find limited evidence of such traditions in Dutch New Netherland Colonial Germans in Pennsylvania held the feast of St. Nicholas, and several accounts do have St. Nicholas visiting New York Dutch on New Years' Eve. Patriots formed the Sons of St. Nicholas in 1773, not to honor Bishop Nicholas, but rather as a non-British symbol to counter the English St. George societies. This St. Nicholas society was similar to the Sons of St. Tammany in Philadelphia. Not exactly St. Nicholas, the children's gift-giver.



After the American Revolution, New Yorkers remembered with pride the colony's nearly-forgotten Dutch roots. John Pintard, influential patriot and antiquarian, who founded the New York Historical Society in 1804, promoted St. Nicholas as patron saint of both society and city. In January 1809, Washington Irving joined the society and on St. Nicholas Day that year he published the satirical Knickerbocker's History of New York, which made numerous references to a jolly St. Nicholas character. This was not a saintly bishop, rather an elfin Dutch burgher with a clay pipe. These delightful flights of imagination are the origin of the New Amsterdam St. Nicholas legends: that the first Dutch emigrant ship had a figurehead of St. Nicholas; that St. Nicholas Day was observed in the colony; that the first church was dedicated to him: and that St. Nicholas comes down chimneys to bring gifts. Irving's work was regarded as the "first notable work of imagination in the New World."

The New York Historical Society held its first St. Nicholas anniversary dinner on December 6, 1810. John Pintard commissioned artist Alexander Anderson to create the first American image of Nicholas for the occasion. Nicholas was shown in a gift-giving role with children's treats in stockings hanging at a fireplace. The accompanying poem ends, "Saint Nicholas, my dear good friend! To serve you ever was my end, If you will, now, me something give, I'll serve you ever while I live."

The jolly elf image received a big boost in 1823, from a poem destined to become immensely popular, "A Visit from St. Nicholas," now better known as "The Night Before Christmas."

How I know this was becuase I leanred about ST Nick from History Class, and the how he became Santa, I got from a book I have in my desk.
Thank you; that was a lot more informed than my own history on him.

Thank you; that was a lot more informed than my own history on him.
Well your ah welcome, beats the shit outta that Life and Times of Santa, crap on the Family Channel.

bump!

Santa appears to be a random C&H quote ;)

Santa appears to be a random C&H quote ;)

I was gonna say the same thing! He never got his answer, did he...? ;)

Oh hell, you are a moron in so many ways with this post. First of all, the word Santa is a deriviation of Saint Nicolous, a famous person noted for giving children gifts every year of his life. The kids couldn't pronounce his name very well and ended up saying Saint Nicolous as Sane-Nick-Klaus. Santa Claus.
Second, you need to learn about how Christmas ended up on December 25th.
Third, people gave gifts to their family on Christmas at first due to the Wisemen's gifts and then later Santa; it had nothing to do with Satan.
Oh, and calling homosexuality a disease just shows your complete ignorance of fact.
In closing, STFU and go away.

You know, I kind of got the impression that he may have been joking. Oh, silly me. Of course he thinks that santa is actually satan and that everyone who celebrates Christmas will go to hell. How could I possibly have thought that he was joking.
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Santa is a soviet! think about it he wares red. He sees all (soviet spy satellites)
He knows when you've been naughty or nice! (speaking out against stalin)
So be good for goodness sake. (respect the leader or die)

Nah, Santa's the CEO of Toys 'R Us. Think about it...

Actally I'd suspect he is a KGB Spy master. Uses the old Russian spy sats and all. You know.

Oh please, everyone knows Santa is an orange cat paid by the government to break into houses and leave things.

Oh you unholy blasphemer, may the Lord forgive you, for you know not what you say!

Satan once was God's favorite angel. But he tried a heavenly coup and God should have by all rights killed him right then and there. But God, being all that is good, gave him his very own place to rule and called it Hell. And even though God gave Satan free reign to tempt as many people as he wanted (even Christ Himself!) and lots of fabulous stuff to tempt them with (like eternal youth and Lincoln Continentals), Satan was still not satisfied. It made him jealous that Americans have made Christmas the most important retail event of the year, far overshadowing Satan's own holiday, Halloween. So Satan has tried to undermine Christmas by making Santa even more popular than Jesus!

You don't think so? Even the law of the land forbids a baby Jesus in the town square, but who is there instead? You guessed it! Santa! Every time a so-called Christian child asks Santa for something, he is praying to Satan. With each request fulfilled, parents are unwittingly making a pact with the Devil. They may as well be writing in blood, "Satan please distract our children from Jesus with all these shiny toys!" But you know what? When your little boys and girls have grown up and no longer believe that Santa is real, they will find out just how real Satan is when he comes to collect their souls in exchange for all those presents! And God will turn a deaf ear to their pathetic wails of desperation. God will say, "You were more interested in that fat demon who was giving you presents than my Son who was giving you salvation, so you can all rot in Hell for all I care."

So talk to your children before it is too late! Tell them that Santa is no kindly old man; he is an evil demon. And next time your family sees some propped up gin-soaked vagrant in a Mall wearing a red suit with white furry cuffs, set a good example and witness for the other deluded people waiting in line. Loudly, rebuke him! Announce to all the children in the store "Not only is Santa a lie, he will ravage you sexually, drink your blood and drag your palpating carcasses down to Hell with him!" It is only through setting a good example that we can put the Christ back in Christmas.

Either someone's on too much medication, or he's saying this just for the fun of it. Personally, I'm not fond of the fact that Christmas is secularized, but as a friend put it "it makes Christmas a national holiday, not just a Christian holiday. The great thing is is that Christmas in America is that it's as Christian as any other day of the year."

...Oh yeah, the Santa thing, he's in the CIA, big time.

You know, I kind of got the impression that he may have been joking. Oh, silly me. Of course he thinks that santa is actually satan and that everyone who celebrates Christmas will go to hell. How could I possibly have thought that he was joking.
[/sarcasm]

A joke?

Was Jesus dying on the Cross, shedding His most precious blood so that we may live again a joke?

Is being cast into a pool of liquid fire until the fat drips from your charred and blackened bones a humorous situation to you?

Oh good Sir, I do not need defending from an Unsaved heathen like yourself. As a fully grown Baptist Minister and Soldier for the Lord Jesus Christ, I am quite capable of defending myself from slanders of one of Lucifer's lower minions, most likely a Christ hating member of the A.C.L.Jew or a common whiskey drunken pedophile. I only ask for Heavenly guidance in giving me the oratory skills so that I may make myself understood by even the most simple minded of Pagans like yourself.

I already have explained how "Santa" is a mere sonogram for the Prince of Darkness’s true name, but what of his last name "Clause?" A earlier preposterous theory was that children could not pronounce Nicholas. First of all "St. Nicholas" never existed and is nothing more than just one of the many lies spread by Satan's most diabolical creation, the Catholic church. Second "clause" is the Old English term for a cloven hoof--as in the cloven hoofs of the goat demon Satan.

So bring your Children to your Shopping Malls where Satan's evil plan has created jobs for hundreds of thousands of old lecherous pedophiles throughout this Godly country every December.

These filthy homeless hobos just lay on their urine-stained cardboard beds 11 months out of the year, dreaming of Christmas when they can drunkenly traipse into the warmth of departments stores and have innocent little Christian children sit on their vermin-infested laps. Unwary parents happily snap pictures while Satan's obesely wheezing drunks ask their children whether they've been "bad" and whisper lewd suggestions in their angelic little ears with their filthy booze-breath and cigarette-discolored lips. How many unsuspecting tots have suffered a quick grope before Satan's little helper moves on to the next hopeful child in line?

So friends and readers do not listen to these minions of Satan, for they seek only more souls for their dark master, but listen to me for I speak for the Lord, who will raise up the true believers on the last day where you will sit at the table of the lord for ever and ever.

Post your thoughts, but be careful what you say.

Remember, he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows when you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake!

CIA spook? Let me guess you got that from a Calvin and Hobbes comic strip, because there is one that asks I think the EXACT same question.

CIA spook? Let me guess you got that from a Calvin and Hobbes comic strip, because there is one that asks I think the EXACT same question.

BINGO!

You've just won $1 Million Dollars!*



*To be paid to you in the year 3,000 A.D., if you are still alive.

Oh hell, you are a moron in so many ways with this post. First of all, the word Santa is a deriviation of Saint Nicolous, a famous person noted for giving children gifts every year of his life. The kids couldn't pronounce his name very well and ended up saying Saint Nicolous as Sane-Nick-Klaus. Santa Claus.
Second, you need to learn about how Christmas ended up on December 25th.
Third, people gave gifts to their family on Christmas at first due to the Wisemen's gifts and then later Santa; it had nothing to do with Satan.
Oh, and calling homosexuality a disease just shows your complete ignorance of fact.
In closing, STFU and go away.
My official opinion, given as a Moderator: He was joking.

My official adivce to you, given as a Moderator: Knock it off.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

A joke?

Was Jesus dying on the Cross, shedding His most precious blood so that we may live again a joke?

Is being cast into a pool of liquid fire until the fat drips from your charred and blackened bones a humorous situation to you?

Oh good Sir, I do not need defending from an Unsaved heathen like yourself. As a fully grown Baptist Minister and Soldier for the Lord Jesus Christ, I am quite capable of defending myself from slanders of one of Lucifer's lower minions, most likely a Christ hating member of the A.C.L.Jew or a common whiskey drunken pedophile. I only ask for Heavenly guidance in giving me the oratory skills so that I may make myself understood by even the most simple minded of Pagans like yourself.

I already have explained how "Santa" is a mere sonogram for the Prince of Darkness’s true name, but what of his last name "Clause?" A earlier preposterous theory was that children could not pronounce Nicholas. First of all "St. Nicholas" never existed and is nothing more than just one of the many lies spread by Satan's most diabolical creation, the Catholic church. Second "clause" is the Old English term for a cloven hoof--as in the cloven hoofs of the goat demon Satan.

So bring your Children to your Shopping Malls where Satan's evil plan has created jobs for hundreds of thousands of old lecherous pedophiles throughout this Godly country every December.

These filthy homeless hobos just lay on their urine-stained cardboard beds 11 months out of the year, dreaming of Christmas when they can drunkenly traipse into the warmth of departments stores and have innocent little Christian children sit on their vermin-infested laps. Unwary parents happily snap pictures while Satan's obesely wheezing drunks ask their children whether they've been "bad" and whisper lewd suggestions in their angelic little ears with their filthy booze-breath and cigarette-discolored lips. How many unsuspecting tots have suffered a quick grope before Satan's little helper moves on to the next hopeful child in line?

So friends and readers do not listen to these minions of Satan, for they seek only more souls for their dark master, but listen to me for I speak for the Lord, who will raise up the true believers on the last day where you will sit at the table of the lord for ever and ever.

Dude get a life, seriously. And if you want to be insulting the Catholics, as a Protestant (with Jewish ethnicity), I would be obliged to kick your ass. My mother is Catholic, as are my closest friends, and I do not tolerate ignorant little shits like you insulting their faith, calling their church "Satan's most diabolical creation." You are the hard-hearted prophet, who in the Bible, preached hellfire and brimstone, only to face that wrath himself by corrupting Jesus' message. You do not know that true meaning of your religion. If you did, you would not believe any of the horseshit that you typed up on this thread. Do not claim that others are going to hell, and you are going to enjoy eternal salvation, because, as your religion (and I use that term loosely, because you do not adhere to it well) says, when you do that, you attempt to become God's equal, which is called pride, the worst of the deadliest sins. I only hope to be there when you realize how truly pathetic and wrong you really are.

santa claus is a manifestation of odin, the all father. he is a god who knows the vices and virtues of all and judges them by their actions for the last year.
the christian trappings are just superficial window dressing, and the connection to an early christian saint from asia minor is typical christian expropriation of pagan symbols and traditions to suit their own nefarious ends.


hail odin, hail santa claus