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I HATE this culture...

Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 06:40
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*
Haloman
19-12-2004, 06:42
<---------Cliff's that way.
Vittos Ordination
19-12-2004, 06:44
You know what I haven't had in a while?


Big League Chew.
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 06:44
That about sums up every reason why I went and started embracing the Japanese culture.
Terra - Domina
19-12-2004, 06:45
lol

*sob*

i guess feudalism worked so much better

like how the Romans had such amazing civil rights

*sigh
Haloman
19-12-2004, 06:46
You know what I haven't had in a while?


Big League Chew.

ROFFLESOCKS.

I applaud you for flawless use of this qoute, and using it at the perfect moment. :p
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 06:46
That about sums up every reason why I went and started embracing the Japanese culture.
you my friend, are an idiot. i lived in japan for a year and i can say that that if you think its any different there then you got another thing coming.

in fact, its much, much worse in many aspects.
Gnostikos
19-12-2004, 06:47
You're not alone. It sounds just like a few of my sentiments.

That about sums up every reason why I went and started embracing the Japanese culture.
Holy crap, that sounds exactly like me. The stimulus was Shōgun by James Clavell.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 06:48
You can't fight city hall. Death and taxes. Don't talk about politics or religion. This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line. Lay down, GI, lay down, GI! We saw it all through the 20th Century. And now in the 21st Century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this ratmaze. We should not submit to dehumanization. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about what's happening in this world. I'm concerned with the structure. I'm concerned with the systems of control. Those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more. I want freedom. That's what I want. And that's what you should want.

It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities, because that is the central mode of control: make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny. We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale. Start challenging this corporate slave state.

The 21st Century's gonna be a new century; not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues of no significance, and classism and statism, and all the rest of the modes of control. It's gonna be the age of human kind, standing up for something pure, and something right.

What a bunch of garbage: liberal, Democrat, conservative, Republican. It's all there to control you: two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control of the CEO job of Slavery, Incorporated. The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it. Do you got me?

Resistance is not futile. We're gonna win this thing. Human kind is too good. We're not a bunch of underachievers. We're gonna stand up and we're gonna be human beings. We're gonna get fired up about the real things, the things that matter: Creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.

Well that's it. That's all I've got to say. It's in your court.

http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte484v/wakinglife/alexjones.jpg

-alex jones

kudos to Reem :D
God Odin
19-12-2004, 06:48
That about sums up every reason why I went and started embracing the Japanese culture.

Hahahah, loser.
Vittos Ordination
19-12-2004, 06:49
ROFFLESOCKS.

I applaud you for flawless use of this qoute, and using it at the perfect moment. :p

Thank you.

I almost fainted when I realized I had the absolute perfect opportunity for that quote.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 06:49
You've only the symptoms- the root of the wicked culture is the Jew.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 06:50
You've only the symptoms- the root of the wicked culture is the Jew.
wait...what?
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 06:50
you my friend, are an idiot. i lived in japan for a year and i can say that that if you think its any different there then you got another thing coming.

in fact, its much, much worse in many aspects.

Was an exchange student their. Liked the culture. (I lived on a Buddist shrine on the Kanagana Prefecture)
Terra - Domina
19-12-2004, 06:51
I LIKE social Darwinism
Nihilistic Beginners
19-12-2004, 06:51
Kisarazu...scream if you have too...let it all out...its good for the soul, I understand that everything can seem so overwhelming at times but you just can't take all this BS seriously...laugh at it like I do...don't let it have power over you...its all just a meaningless absurd joke...I would recommend that you read Ecclesiates but...maybe that wouldn't be a good idea right now
Haloman
19-12-2004, 06:52
Thank you.

I almost fainted when I realized I had the absolute perfect opportunity for that quote.

I use it quite often when talking with friends. LIke when my friend announced that her Grandma died in homeroom. Needless to say, I got slapped.
Dansing Wombastonia
19-12-2004, 06:52
Either get help or go live in a hole/cave somewhere.
Just put up with it. Our culture is better, in my opinion, than those in say Africa or South America where
a) people tend to be more poor
1) people born poor stay poor
b) there are fewer political (or personal) freedoms
c) where complex social interaction is much less available and less common
Our society is better than most out there -- live with it.
Matalatataka
19-12-2004, 06:52
Damn! That's a lot of hate. Sounds like someone needs to sell their television, the rest of their possessions, and move to some nice third world country where the biggest woe people have is, literally, surviving from one day to the next. Not trying to be flippant here. Just that we in the industrialized world, especially those of us with the ability and time to post to on-line forums, have such a better life than so many others. Crap, dude. Take a pill, then do something about the things that are pissing you off this much! Don't just bitch about it.
Terra - Domina
19-12-2004, 06:52
4000 posts

why do you have a line for posts written in

thats retarded

oooo, look at mr uber post man
Legburnjuice
19-12-2004, 06:53
Every time I see Fidei post, more and more I think the entire character's a joke.
New Kanteletar
19-12-2004, 06:53
You've only the symptoms- the root of the wicked culture is the Jew.
Warning.Warning. This venting thread is a about to be hijacked by anti-semitic rhetoric.
Katganistan
19-12-2004, 06:55
You've only the symptoms- the root of the wicked culture is the Jew.

Knock it off.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 06:55
wait...what?
The Jews control the media and the government. For example MTV is controlled by Jew Murray Rothstein.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 06:56
why do you have a line for posts written in

thats retarded

oooo, look at mr uber post man
deleted 7 times actually, and i think what you just said to me is a flamebait. a year ago i would have gladly flamed you out... but i wont because i dont want the IP Ban. :D
Terra - Domina
19-12-2004, 06:57
deleted 7 times actually, and i think what you just said to me is a flamebait. a year ago i would have gladly flamed you out... but i wont because i dont want the IP Ban. :D

fair enough

you are still a self consious idiot

oh god, ban me! ban me!
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 06:58
The Jews control the media and the government. For example MTV is controlled by Jew Murray Rothstein.

someone is paranoied.
Legburnjuice
19-12-2004, 06:58
The Jews control the media and the government. For example MTV is controlled by Jew Murray Rothstein.

Umm... and you're controlled by *gasp* Jew Jesus Christ. Get over yourself.
Nihilistic Beginners
19-12-2004, 06:59
I love Waking Life

"...there's only one instant, and it's right now, and it's eternity. And it's an instant in which God is posing a question, and that question is basically, 'Do you want to be one with eternity? Do you want to be in heaven?' And we're all saying, 'No thank you. Not just yet.' And so time actually is just this constant saying No to God's invitation. That's what time is, and it's no more 50 A.D. than it's 2001. There's just this one instant, and that's what we're always in."
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:00
fair enough

you are still a self consious idiot

oh god, ban me! ban me!
im confused.... will you give me a hug..i think i need it. :D

ok listen up: yes we live in an industrialized world. yes, i know my life is 10 times better then a starving ethiopian's. BUT, Martin Luther King JR and George Washington also had better lives then starving ethiopians.. did that stop them from trying to force change?
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:00
deleted 7 times actually, and i think what you just said to me is a flamebait. a year ago i would have gladly flamed you out... but i wont because i dont want the IP Ban. :D

just make a thread about how stupid he is in fp(or how stupid ppp is if you want to have some fun).


ps. don't i recognize this thread from somewhere else.
Copiosa Scotia
19-12-2004, 07:01
someone is paranoied.

Nope, he's just jerking our collective chain. I realized several threads ago that there's no way in the world he believes the stuff he's saying. His posts just have a certain ring of deadpan irony to them. We're meant to be offended, I guess, but I prefer to laugh at him.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:01
just make a thread about how stupid he is in fp(or how stupid ppp is if you want to have some fun).


ps. don't i recognize this thread from somewhere else.
hmmm... lemme guess... CMH?? hows FP doing?
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:02
Umm... and you're controlled by *gasp* Jew Jesus Christ. Get over yourself.


antisemetic christians make me laugh, now antisemetic atheistic cultural neopagans like myself are an other matter entirely.
Nihilistic Beginners
19-12-2004, 07:03
im confused.... will you give me a hug..i think i need it. :D

ok listen up: yes we live in an industrialized world. yes, i know my life is 10 times better then a starving ethiopian's. BUT, Martin Luther King JR and George Washington also had better lives then starving ethiopians.. did that stop them from trying to force change?

what exactly do you want to change?
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:05
what exactly do you want to change?
i dunno; as mr. SS viking up there said, im not exactly the smartest dude so im not really qualified to say what we need to change.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:05
antisemetic christians make me laugh, now antisemetic atheistic cultural neopagans like myself are an other matter entirely.
Cultural neopagan? Sounds judaic...
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:05
love you too...

in a platonic non butt touchy way...
Mauiwowee
19-12-2004, 07:08
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*

1. I assume you are discussing U.S. or at least Western European culture;
2. I agree that what I seen going on in these cultures sickens me no end; and
3. I defy you to identify a better culture. The "lesser of two evils" may still be evil, but it is also still the lesser.

::: Asks Kisarazu to move so he can barf as well :::
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:08
love you too...

in a platonic non butt touchy way...
ofcourse! :D
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:08
love you too...

in a platonic non butt touchy way...
And why are you "anti-Semitic?"
Haloman
19-12-2004, 07:09
Cultural neopagan? Sounds judaic...

Dude. I'm a conservative and you're starting to piss even me off with your anti-semitism. Stuff it.
Nihilistic Beginners
19-12-2004, 07:09
i dunno; as mr. SS viking up there said, im not exactly the smartest dude so im not really qualified to say what we need to change.

doesnt matter to me if you are the smartest dude or not...obviously you want to change something...are you happy?
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:12
doesnt matter to me if you are the smartest dude or not...obviously you want to change something...are you happy?
sometimes, but often not. i know there needs to be change, i just dont know what.
The Lightning Star
19-12-2004, 07:15
Ok, my post has 2 parts,

1
From the looks of it, Kisarazu, you should become a Thailandese Buddhist Monk when you grow up, because it looks like someone needs to find inner peace. Think about it, you will do away with all the burdens of daily life in the western world and devote yourself to nothing but helping others and finding your inner peace, not to mention becoming another person. You should at least look into it(but DON'T become a Christian Monk. They always end up fat on fancy wines and stuff. Buddhist monks rarely eat more than rice.)

2
To all the anti-semitic peoples here, knock it off or go somewhere else. If you actually paid attention, you are insulting Jesus(who was a Jew to the death), not to mention making a REALLY big ass outta yourself. Every religion is different, and just because something is different doesnt mean you have to blast it into oblivion! If you could just learn to live side-by-side with Jews(which most of us have), your lives would be MUCH better!
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:17
And why are you "anti-Semitic?"
sorry, the love you too was directed at kissy for a post he deleted...

antisemetism... well i do take my name from the nazi ss international division... lol
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:18
sorry, the love you too was directed at kissy for a post he deleted...

antisemetism... well i do take my name from the nazi ss international division... lol
oops sorry, i didnt mean to. i think i deleted the wrong post.! o_0
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:21
Ok, my post has 2 parts,

1
From the looks of it, Kisarazu, you should become a Thailandese Buddhist Monk when you grow up, because it looks like someone needs to find inner peace. Think about it, you will do away with all the burdens of daily life in the western world and devote yourself to nothing but helping others and finding your inner peace, not to mention becoming another person. You should at least look into it(but DON'T become a Christian Monk. They always end up fat on fancy wines and stuff. Buddhist monks rarely eat more than rice.)

2
To all the anti-semitic peoples here, knock it off or go somewhere else. If you actually paid attention, you are insulting Jesus(who was a Jew to the death), not to mention making a REALLY big ass outta yourself. Every religion is different, and just because something is different doesnt mean you have to blast it into oblivion! If you could just learn to live side-by-side with Jews(which most of us have), your lives would be MUCH better!

1. but i dont really like monks... that and i like steak and beer.

2. i kinda like jews...
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:22
2
To all the anti-semitic peoples here, knock it off or go somewhere else. If you actually paid attention, you are insulting Jesus(who was a Jew to the death), not to mention making a REALLY big ass outta yourself. Every religion is different, and just because something is different doesnt mean you have to blast it into oblivion! If you could just learn to live side-by-side with Jews(which most of us have), your lives would be MUCH better!
it was jesus who began the whole semetic degeneration of the white race, with his philosophy of passivistic homosexuality and twisted guilt about all of lifes pleasures and man's natural mistakes. the modern jews crimes against the aryan people do not even compare to this ancient ongoing assualt on the warrior heart of the european people.
The Lightning Star
19-12-2004, 07:22
1. but i dont really like monks... that and i like steak and beer.

2. i kinda like jews...

1. Well, you're screwed then. The only alternative i see is being a hippie but...*shudders* thats EVIL!

2. Wasn't really talkin to ya ;)
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:23
sorry, the love you too was directed at kissy for a post he deleted...

antisemetism... well i do take my name from the nazi ss international division... lol
So you are not a follower of a perverse "platonic butt touchy" cult?
The Plutonian Empire
19-12-2004, 07:24
There's much more to this culture than meets the eye... (http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/dm_report.html) (link)
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:24
1. yep, screwed like a lightbulb.

2. i know... but i couldnt not respond.
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:24
The Jews control the media and the government. For example MTV is controlled by Jew Murray Rothstein.

Is Rupert Murdoch a Jew? Just curious.
Legburnjuice
19-12-2004, 07:25
it was jesus who began the whole semetic degeneration of the white race, with his philosophy of passivistic homosexuality and twisted guilt about all of lifes pleasures and man's natural mistakes. the modern jews crimes against the aryan people do not even compare to this ancient ongoing assualt on the warrior heart of the european people.

Are you serious?

...

No, really, are you serious?
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:25
Is Rupert Murdoch a Jew? Just curious.
Suspected to be... has chosen as his successor left-wing Jew P. Chernin over his own children...
The Lightning Star
19-12-2004, 07:27
it was jesus who began the whole semetic degeneration of the white race, with his philosophy of passivistic homosexuality and twisted guilt about all of lifes pleasures and man's natural mistakes. the modern jews crimes against the aryan people do not even compare to this ancient ongoing assualt on the warrior heart of the european people.

Oh god, no another Neo-Nazi...

Nazi Propaganda:
Aryans are the master race and they PWNZ! Jews and Slavs and Black Peoplez sux0rz.Aryans reign supreme!

Fact:
Aryans haven't won a war in over 500 years(which was mainly against themselvs. And a war against the French, but that doesnt count.). If you count a war with an outsider they won, you are going to the end of the Roman Empire there.

Nazi Propaganda:
Jews are the source of all evil! Die you nasty jews, die die!

Fact:Most jews are just random people trying to make a living. Are there more rich millionare christians or are there more rich millionare jews? Answer: More rich christians! Do Jews spout hate propaganda? HELL NO! Do Nazi's spread hate propaganda? HELL YES!

I rest my case.

Time for smoothies!
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:27
holy shit, whoever predicted that this thread would turn anti-semetic quickly was right! hold on guys, ill be so kind to make a thread just for you!
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:28
Are you serious?

...

No, really, are you serious?

well sure :)
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:29
Suspected to be... has chosen as his successor left-wing Jew P. Chernin over his own children...

Well, I'm far from anti-semitic. I tend to be non-judgemental of entire peoples... but I do dislike a few individuals. And Rupert Murdoch is one of them, he does control the media. In fact I think he's the anti-Christ. However, I don't see as how he, of all people, would name a left-wing anything his successor. Unless that is, he's just a money-grubbing bastard... oh wait, he is!
Nihilistic Beginners
19-12-2004, 07:29
1. yep, screwed like a lightbulb.

2. i know... but i couldnt not respond.

Poor kisarazu...you are in a forum with a bunch of nutty people...
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:29
holy shit, whoever predicted that this thread would turn anti-semetic quickly was right! hold on guys, ill be so kind to make a thread just for you!
but i like this thread, its all broken in and comfy
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:29
well sure :)
An opponent of the Truth!
The Lightning Star
19-12-2004, 07:31
Well, I'm far from anti-semitic. I tend to be non-judgemental of entire peoples... but I do dislike a few individuals. And Rupert Murdoch is one of them, he does control the media. In fact I think he's the anti-Christ. However, I don't see as how he, of all people, would name a left-wing anything his successor. Unless that is, he's just a money-grubbing bastard... oh wait, he is!

Just outta curiousity shouldn't Satan be the anti-christ?
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:32
Just outta curiousity shouldn't Satan be the anti-christ?

not necessarily, that would be the obvious choice! ;)
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:32
Poor kisarazu...you are in a forum with a bunch of nutty people...
oh but dont you understand? im the nuttiest of them all! i hate mods!
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:33
Well, I'm far from anti-semitic. I tend to be non-judgemental of entire peoples... but I do dislike a few individuals. And Rupert Murdoch is one of them, he does control the media. In fact I think he's the anti-Christ. However, I don't see as how he, of all people, would name a left-wing anything his successor. Unless that is, he's just a money-grubbing bastard... oh wait, he is!
He did. Murdoch's successor -Fox News Corporation's Chernin (Jew) was a leading contributor to the John Kohn campaign.
The Lightning Star
19-12-2004, 07:34
not necessarily, that would be the obvious choice! ;)

So...

if it's the obvious choice it's not the right choice?

And here's a question, If Jesus was a Jew, then who was the first Christian? :confused:
Nihilistic Beginners
19-12-2004, 07:34
oh but dont you understand? im the nuttiest of them all! i hate mods!

Like in Quadrophrenia?
You hate people who ride vespas?
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:35
He did. Murdoch's successor -Fox News Corporation's Chernin (Jew) was a leading contributor to the John Kohn campaign.

How, exactly, does a left-winger work for Fox News Corp?
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:35
Like in Quadrophrenia?
You hate people who ride vespas?
more or less..
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 07:36
How, exactly, does a left-winger work for Fox News Corp?
I'm not stating opinion, I'm stating fact. Google Chernin and see who he really is.
Legburnjuice
19-12-2004, 07:38
So...

if it's the obvious choice it's not the right choice?

And here's a question, If Jesus was a Jew, then who was the first Christian? :confused:

I'd say the Virgin Mary and the Apostles were the first Christians, seeing as they were the first to believe Jesus was their Savior.
Katganistan
19-12-2004, 07:39
oh but dont you understand? im the nuttiest of them all! i hate mods!

Kizarazu, say it ain't so! :(
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:40
So...

if it's the obvious choice it's not the right choice?

And here's a question, If Jesus was a Jew, then who was the first Christian? :confused:

No, not wrong, just obvious! A sort of bait-and-switch if you will. If everyone's looking at Satan, they won't see Rupert Murdoch. It's just my opinion. It might be better said that I just plain don't like Rupert Murdoch and think he's evil.

Hmm... As to your second question, I really don't know... but I would assume one of the apostles. Then again, maybe Mary. Yah, it most likely was Mary... mother of Jesus, not Magdalene. But she was one of the beginners as well.
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:40
Like in Quadrophrenia?
You hate people who ride vespas?
well who doesn't, spotty little gits(to fake a bit of britspeak)
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 07:41
Kizarazu, say it ain't so! :(
actually, i like you. :D your the nice one.
SS DivisionViking
19-12-2004, 07:43
actually, i like you. :D your the nice one.
nice save...
a little obvious perhaps, but nice simplicity and apparent sincerity.
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:43
actually, i like you. :D your the nice one.

Sorry, just had to ask a question, and then off-shoot it went! I share much of your same distest for life, but if multiple sources can be right, and I almost hope they aren't... we only have 8 years left to live anyway, so let's make the most of it! :D
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:48
onward with the original topic!
Mauiwowee
19-12-2004, 07:52
Sorry, just had to ask a question, and then off-shoot it went! I share much of your same distest for life, but if multiple sources can be right, and I almost hope they aren't... we only have 8 years left to live anyway, so let's make the most of it! :D

Where is this number of 8 years coming from? Did I miss something? I thought the meaning of life was 42.
Gurguvungunit
19-12-2004, 07:53
If any of you clicked the link pertaining to the Nibiru and Anunnaki, is the person serious, or what?
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 07:58
Where is this number of 8 years coming from? Did I miss something? I thought the meaning of life was 42.

A few places. The Mayan calendar, which has been known to be incredibly accurate, suddenly stops at what is equivalent to December something of 2012. Also, I saw a show on the Bible Codes, all of which seemed pretty inconclusive to me, but, it also mentioned the end of days to be December something of 2012. And a map of the world that I had in my room fell down when they announced that on the tv. Creepy!
I don't really, necessarily believe it, or live in fear, because there's really nothing I can do to change it, so, whatever! Another thing to consider is that the "End of Days" isn't necessarily the end of the world, it just means that life won't continue on as it has. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Catharsiadum
19-12-2004, 08:02
Find a wooded area to walk in, adopt a dog, they are amazing listeners, find someone you like and have sex with them, go to the library and find a nice book, smile at old people.
And if that fails, go to a major city, find some rich looking dude and push him infront of a bus
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 08:05
Ok, my post has 2 parts,

1
From the looks of it, Kisarazu, you should become a Thailandese Buddhist Monk when you grow up, because it looks like someone needs to find inner peace. Think about it, you will do away with all the burdens of daily life in the western world and devote yourself to nothing but helping others and finding your inner peace, not to mention becoming another person. You should at least look into it(but DON'T become a Christian Monk. They always end up fat on fancy wines and stuff. Buddhist monks rarely eat more than rice.)

2
To all the anti-semitic peoples here, knock it off or go somewhere else. If you actually paid attention, you are insulting Jesus(who was a Jew to the death), not to mention making a REALLY big ass outta yourself. Every religion is different, and just because something is different doesnt mean you have to blast it into oblivion! If you could just learn to live side-by-side with Jews(which most of us have), your lives would be MUCH better!

Sorry if you got the wrong idea of me. I am not anti-semitic! I love Jesus, and Love Jews... if they are good people. Unlike Rupert Murdoch, not a good man.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 08:06
Find a wooded area to walk in, adopt a dog, they are amazing listeners, find someone you like and have sex with them, go to the library and find a nice book, smile at old people.
And if that fails, go to a major city, find some rich looking dude and push him infront of a bus
NOW THAT MY FRIEND...

sounds like a really, really good plan. :D
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 08:09
NOW THAT MY FRIEND...

sounds like a really, really good plan. :D

muahahahaha! (the dr. evil laugh)
Haloman
19-12-2004, 08:10
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*

You should come with me to my cottage on lake Michigan. The most peaceful place on earth, and the closest earthly thing to heaven, IMO. Sit on my porch, and look out into the lake, and you can just think. Up there, I forget about everything, which sounds like something you need to do.
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 08:12
If any of you clicked the link pertaining to the Nibiru and Anunnaki, is the person serious, or what?

I don't know... I hate it when "factual articles," are left un-cited. Not that I don't believe aliens are a possibility, I just don't really take all that stuff too seriously.
Mauiwowee
19-12-2004, 08:25
A few places. The Mayan calendar, which has been known to be incredibly accurate, suddenly stops at what is equivalent to December something of 2012. Also, I saw a show on the Bible Codes, all of which seemed pretty inconclusive to me, but, it also mentioned the end of days to be December something of 2012. And a map of the world that I had in my room fell down when they announced that on the tv. Creepy!
I don't really, necessarily believe it, or live in fear, because there's really nothing I can do to change it, so, whatever! Another thing to consider is that the "End of Days" isn't necessarily the end of the world, it just means that life won't continue on as it has. Not necessarily a bad thing.

Thanks for the explanation. However, I must say I like "42" better

BTW, for those that don't understand "42" please read "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" books.

:D
Karitopia
19-12-2004, 08:30
Thanks for the explanation. However, I must say I like "42" better

BTW, for those that don't understand "42" please read "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" books.

:D

So be it. What's this hitchhiker's business that I hear so much about?
Skapedroe
19-12-2004, 09:42
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*
:cool: :cool: :cool:
Skapedroe
19-12-2004, 09:43
lol

*sob*

i guess feudalism worked so much better

like how the Romans had such amazing civil rights

*sigh
the romans at least had orgies
Skapedroe
19-12-2004, 09:45
why do you have a line for posts written in

thats retarded

oooo, look at mr uber post man
why do you care?
Armored Ear
19-12-2004, 09:47
feudalism rox your sox
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 18:37
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*


BUMP! :D
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 18:38
You can't fight city hall. Death and taxes. Don't talk about politics or religion. This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line. Lay down, GI, lay down, GI! We saw it all through the 20th Century. And now in the 21st Century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this ratmaze. We should not submit to dehumanization. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about what's happening in this world. I'm concerned with the structure. I'm concerned with the systems of control. Those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more. I want freedom. That's what I want. And that's what you should want.

It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities, because that is the central mode of control: make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny. We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale. Start challenging this corporate slave state.

The 21st Century's gonna be a new century; not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues of no significance, and classism and statism, and all the rest of the modes of control. It's gonna be the age of human kind, standing up for something pure, and something right.

What a bunch of garbage: liberal, Democrat, conservative, Republican. It's all there to control you: two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control of the CEO job of Slavery, Incorporated. The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it. Do you got me?

Resistance is not futile. We're gonna win this thing. Human kind is too good. We're not a bunch of underachievers. We're gonna stand up and we're gonna be human beings. We're gonna get fired up about the real things, the things that matter: Creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.

Well that's it. That's all I've got to say. It's in your court.

http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte484v/wakinglife/alexjones.jpg

-alex jones

kudos to Reem :D


bump! :D
Skapedroe
19-12-2004, 18:57
I don't know... I hate it when "factual articles," are left un-cited. Not that I don't believe aliens are a possibility, I just don't really take all that stuff too seriously.
why does citing something make it any more true? do you need someone in a white lab coat to tell you what its ok for you to believe in?
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 19:05
why does citing something make it any more true? do you need someone in a white lab coat to tell you what its ok for you to believe in?
maybe...
Forum Feline
19-12-2004, 19:31
First off, I sympathize with you. It is import to distinguish between our present society and society and civilization in general. Civilization, not specifying any one particular one, but civilization in general is needed, as is a society.

However, the problem with our current one is not consumerism, capitalism, and control. It is injust consumerism, injust capitalism, and injust control. What makes it injust? That the control is not controlled.

The paradigm of liberal democracy can be expanded to economic structures and social structures. It is not a true democracy unless you have economic democracy and social democracy. However, it is important to note that in a democracy, there are winners and losers. However, in a liberal democracy, the loser doesn't lose all of their rights. Hence, Welfare Capitalism (Social nets of Socialism, free enterprise of capitalism) is the best economic system, assuming the capital is widely spread enough. Quoting G.K. Chesterson, "The problem with capitalism is that there are not enough capitalists." (I'm not advocating distributism, however, though it may sound like that) With capital so narrowly distributed, even in a welfare capitalist economy, you cannot have economic democracy. There will be those having more than others, yes, but it won't be much more, and everyone will be able to start their own small business and make a good living and all- if they want to. There will always be those who don't, and they will choose to work for small businesses.

Social power is derived from economic power. The democratization of economic power would inevitably lead to the democratization of social power, assuming technologies such as the Internet are widespread. Once we achieve economic democracy, the Digital Divide will be bridged and all will have equal opportunity to influence the zeitgeist and memes of society.

And you are right on one thing, however. The 21st century will be very different than the 20th. But the direction is up for grabs. Modern society is unsustainable. It is a self-loathing mess, on the verge of commiting suicide. If Society collapses on its own, it will take civilization and order down with it. Unacceptable. It would be pure law of the jungle. We couldn't replace it even if we tried. Thus, we need to take Society's hand, and give it a little self-help course, an extreme makeover, if you will. It must be transformed into a Democratic Society, such as I have outlined above. Anarchists are fond of saying that an Anarchy is a society with no rulers, not no rules. Destruction of it will not lead to some sort of Anarchic utopia (Which really is impractical, but that's for another day). It will lead to anomie- the total abscene of order and rules. However, in a Democratic Society, everyone is a ruler.

It is up to Generation Y (Of which I belong to, and I presume you belong to) to salvage this wreck and turn it back into a functioning ship, not simply float on the wreckage, because we can't just float on the wreckage. If you think the wreckage will have the best of the ship's luxuries and amenities, you're kidding yourself. It will be not a nice place to live, to say the least. Eventually, we'll end up sinking that to, and destroying the world.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 19:40
First off, I sympathize with you. It is import to distinguish between our present society and society and civilization in general. Civilization, not specifying any one particular one, but civilization in general is needed, as is a society.

However, the problem with our current one is not consumerism, capitalism, and control. It is injust consumerism, injust capitalism, and injust control. What makes it injust? That the control is not controlled.

The paradigm of liberal democracy can be expanded to economic structures and social structures. It is not a true democracy unless you have economic democracy and social democracy. However, it is important to note that in a democracy, there are winners and losers. However, in a liberal democracy, the loser doesn't lose all of their rights. Hence, Welfare Capitalism (Social nets of Socialism, free enterprise of capitalism) is the best economic system, assuming the capital is widely spread enough. Quoting G.K. Chesterson, "The problem with capitalism is that there are not enough capitalists." (I'm not advocating distributism, however, though it may sound like that) With capital so narrowly distributed, even in a welfare capitalist economy, you cannot have economic democracy. There will be those having more than others, yes, but it won't be much more, and everyone will be able to start their own small business and make a good living and all- if they want to. There will always be those who don't, and they will choose to work for small businesses.

Social power is derived from economic power. The democratization of economic power would inevitably lead to the democratization of social power, assuming technologies such as the Internet are widespread. Once we achieve economic democracy, the Digital Divide will be bridged and all will have equal opportunity to influence the zeitgeist and memes of society.

And you are right on one thing, however. The 21st century will be very different than the 20th. But the direction is up for grabs. Modern society is unsustainable. It is a self-loathing mess, on the verge of commiting suicide. If Society collapses on its own, it will take civilization and order down with it. Unacceptable. It would be pure law of the jungle. We couldn't replace it even if we tried. Thus, we need to take Society's hand, and give it a little self-help course, an extreme makeover, if you will. It must be transformed into a Democratic Society, such as I have outlined above. Anarchists are fond of saying that an Anarchy is a society with no rulers, not no rules. Destruction of it will not lead to some sort of Anarchic utopia (Which really is impractical, but that's for another day). It will lead to anomie- the total abscene of order and rules. However, in a Democratic Society, everyone is a ruler.

It is up to Generation Y (Of which I belong to, and I presume you belong to) to salvage this wreck and turn it back into a functioning ship, not simply float on the wreckage, because we can't just float on the wreckage. If you think the wreckage will have the best of the ship's luxuries and amenities, you're kidding yourself. It will be not a nice place to live, to say the least. Eventually, we'll end up sinking that to, and destroying the world.

very nice. i really like this. :D
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 19:45
The way society must move is to restore the glory of the past, as in the Middle Ages. Only then will our culture be blessed!
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 19:49
The above poster is a nut job.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 19:49
The way society must move is to restore the glory of the past, as in the Middle Ages. Only then will our culture be blessed!
yay! plague!

http://webs.wichita.edu/mschneegurt/biol103/lecture14/plague_burial.jpg
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 19:50
The above poster is a nut job.
Fool! What be thy discrepancy here?
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 19:55
Like I said I have embraced Japanese culture. I did that after I spent a year as an exchange student for one year their.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 19:56
Like I said I have embraced Japanese culture. I did that after I spent a year as an exchange student for one year their.
It is you who is the "nut job" then!
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 20:04
Like I said I have embraced Japanese culture. I did that after I spent a year as an exchange student for one year their.
where'd you go?
Letila
19-12-2004, 20:05
The way society must move is to restore the glory of the past, as in the Middle Ages. Only then will our culture be blessed!

That time period sucked! It was even more authoritarian and hypocritical than now. I agree, though, that our current culture is stupid.
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 20:07
where'd you go?

Lived in the Kanagawa Prefecture.
Sevaris
19-12-2004, 20:10
I agree. Although, I do think Kisarazu flew a tad off the handle- the problem is not the ideals of our society, in theory, we have the best democracy in the world, it's the assholes in Washington and in boardrooms across the nation who abuse it. We have a chance to take back our society. If we fail, well, then, it may be time to leave and start anew elsewhere (can you say Canada?)
Brave 1337 World
19-12-2004, 20:11
1. anti-semitism blows. majorly.
2. japanese culture isn't necessarily better. it follows ideals the asame way that ours tries to. neither one comes close to those ideals, can tell you right now. however, if the ideals that japanese culture follows suit you better than those of the US, so be it. (for me, they do, to some extent). its stupid to think that one country is perfect compared to another. as you know, countries are made up of HUMANS, and despite what your big egos might have you believe, HUMANS SUCK. at the same time there's nothing so awesome as being an insanely moronic human. whatever. anyways. yeah. i'm done now.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 20:13
That time period sucked! It was even more authoritarian and hypocritical than now. I agree, though, that our current culture is stupid.
The Middle Ages were Glorious times!
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 20:16
Lived in the Kanagawa Prefecture.
i was in niigata prefecture.

how can you say the japanese arnt enslaved like us? They are corperate slaves, they have an even worse authoritarian govt. and corperations own everything in japan! The advertisements for BUY BUY BUY are everywhere!

i love japan tho, it rocked. :D
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 20:18
i was in niigata prefecture.

how can you say the japanese arnt enslaved like us? They are corperate slaves, they have an even worse authoritarian govt. and corperations own everything in japan! The advertisements for BUY BUY BUY are everywhere!

i love japan tho, it rocked. :D
Not to mention Japan's "far-Right" immigration policy....
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 20:19
But I have duel citiznship in both the U.S. an Japan.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 20:20
But I have duel citiznship in both the U.S. an Japan.
why?
Infundibula
19-12-2004, 20:25
It's a good thing there are so many "better" cultures to adopt.
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 20:27
why?

My wife is Japanese.
Letila
19-12-2004, 20:30
how can you say the japanese arnt enslaved like us? They are corperate slaves, they have an even worse authoritarian govt. and corperations own everything in japan! The advertisements for BUY BUY BUY are everywhere!

Hense their endemic pædophilia, sorry, had to say it. (JK)
Kahta
19-12-2004, 20:31
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*


best post in a longgggggggggggggggggg time. Very very well stated.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 20:32
My wife is Japanese.
woah how old are you?

btw, thats the thing in my opinion: Japanese men do not treat their women right. I knew many japanese men that blatantly cheated on their wives, ive seen men harrass high school girls on the train, and the women do nothing. It really is sad to see, because japanese women are so great.
Kisarazu
19-12-2004, 20:33
best post in a longgggggggggggggggggg time. Very very well stated.
thanks. :D
Advent Nebula
19-12-2004, 20:34
I am 20. Arranged marrage.
Rojo Cubana
19-12-2004, 20:39
This culture hates you.
New Anthrus
19-12-2004, 20:41
Funny you guys are. American culture, it seems, is spreadiing like its on steroids. Even in the Soviet Union, the one private company they allowed before Perestroika was Pepsi. Even in the Middle East, a boy can tell me how much he hates America, then go home and watch a Yankees game on ESPN.
Bahnemeth
19-12-2004, 20:52
If any of you clicked the link pertaining to the Nibiru and Anunnaki, is the person serious, or what?

i sure as hell hope not, whoever wrote that was retarded, with some serious issues concerning history, religion, sex, geography, and butterscotch pudding. (don't ask about the pudding, i have no idea were that came from) :D
Ashmoria
19-12-2004, 22:46
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*

thing is
you dont have to buy into any of this societal crap
that is kind of what it means to be an ADULT (which you may or may not be at this time, how would i know)

you dont have to buy $200 sneakers
you dont have to think brittney spears is sexy
you dont have to send an audition tape into "the bachelor"
you dont have to close your eyes to the truth

turn off the TV, quit reading pop culture magazines, make your OWN standards based on what YOU think is important.

youll be just as warm wearing clothing that you bought for $10 at the salvation army store as you will wearing stuff that costs you $500 at the mall.

youll be just as happy (more happy really) if you choose a girl to date not because she is skinny with big breasts, white teeth, blonde hair and the latest fashions but because she is really cool to be with.

go to the library and get a book called "living the good life" by helen and scott nearing. im not suggesting becoming a subsistance farmer in coastal maine but it can help you figure out what is really important in life rather than what is most valued by society.

good luck and i hope your friend gets treatment for her anorexia, it can be fatal.
Andaluciae
19-12-2004, 23:07
Funny you guys are. American culture, it seems, is spreadiing like its on steroids. Even in the Soviet Union, the one private company they allowed before Perestroika was Pepsi. Even in the Middle East, a boy can tell me how much he hates America, then go home and watch a Yankees game on ESPN.
I like how the insurgents often wear Nike ski masks.
Goed Twee
19-12-2004, 23:35
Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

That is one man I would not hesitate to beat the living shit out of.
Crossman
20-12-2004, 00:01
Kisarazu, you make a good point. I can agree with you very well.
Superpower07
20-12-2004, 00:24
Kisarazu, you make a good point. I can agree with you very well
Yes; I do not like the direction our culture is going in either; perhaps we might be able to "break" this cycle once we are a bit older . . .
Das Rocket
20-12-2004, 03:46
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*
No. And now I'm off to Burger King. Mmmmmmmmmm,beef and bacon. :cool:
Karitopia
30-12-2004, 19:01
why does citing something make it any more true? do you need someone in a white lab coat to tell you what its ok for you to believe in?
Citing something makes it more credible. No, I don't need anyone to tell me what is ok or not ok for me to believe in, or what is true. But, there is a difference between truth and fact. And we should argue in accordance with fact, because if we argued in the fashion of what we believe to be true, it would most resemble banging our collective heads against a brick wall.
UpwardThrust
30-12-2004, 19:20
No. And now I'm off to Burger King. Mmmmmmmmmm,beef and bacon. :cool:
Dont forget ya got to drive your massive SUV with one squeelin kid in it to BK
Dakini
30-12-2004, 19:33
i know that as a 21 year old, i hate beign grouped in with the "millenials" who are the fucktards listening to britney spears and all that shit. people my age shoudl get a different grouping as we can still remember when saturday morning cartoons used to be good, when sesame street wasn't all about elmo and ravers on acid, when 90% of the toys didn't walk, talk or suck on a bottle and you had to pretend that they did all that. when the computers had those rolly balls instead of mice and the only personal computer out there was the commodore 64, which one kid in your class had and bragged about all the time. (oddly enough, this same kid had the same computer in highschool and bitched about it all the time) the group of people who were starting to realise what was going on when nirvana was around, and green day was starting to become more important. back when you didn't have to be able to dance to the songs at school dances in order for the songs to get played... people old enough to realise that new rock and new metal is shit and that the pop princesses don't sing their own songs for the most part, nor are they really someone to look up to unless you aspire to do relativly little and earn truckloads of money before you're 30. i don't want to be grouped in with the idiots who are buying into that shit.

but anyways, if you don't like the stuff they're trying to sell you, don't buy it. turn off the television, or at least turn off mtv (much isn't as bad yet, but it's close now) turn off the overly commercialized radio station, find a college station, a jazz station, classic rock, find something where someone is playing shit that doesn't suck. just do your own thing and to hell with whatever everyone is trying to sell you. i'm not saying aviod the things you like that they're trying to convince you to buy. if you like it, then buy it. if you don't then fuck 'em all.
Rkyeun
30-12-2004, 19:38
Quote:
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*
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There is a way to change it all.
The first rule of Fight Club is... you do not talk about Fight Club.
Milynna
30-12-2004, 19:39
I fucking hate ...... fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture.

Get a TiVo
Ussel Mammon
30-12-2004, 19:39
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.

-I think he is basicly right. Most of you might laugh as think he is wrong, but he is not!? He is also very honest... and not just a moralistic stupid narrow minded well trained MONKEY!

-A bit on the side negative side...maybe! But that does not make him wrong. There are ofcause also good values in the modern society, which he forgot :)

Harry "the Bastard" (English is not my native language)
Stoopid Noobs
30-12-2004, 19:40
Yea, i think the culture your refering to is a crock of shit. If it were up to me, it would be banz0rd
Greedy Pig
30-12-2004, 19:48
Culture is how you live your life. Not how everybody else live theirs. So just stop following them.

Do something else. Read more. Watch less tv. Eat healthier foods, if you can't find, then learn to cook.

Get on with life. There's lots of things you can't do anything about in this world. Instead on harbouring on the things you can't do. Do the things you can.
Milynna
30-12-2004, 19:50
The best part of the American culture, is that if you don't like your life, you have the tools to change it. I have no sympathy for you....no pity at all. Don't like something? Get off your ass and change it. Simple as that. If you are too lazy/scared to do so, then you have no right to bitch.
Davistania
30-12-2004, 19:54
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.


*pukes*

Would you like some post with your Angst?

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who thinks that the sky isn't falling. What is so comforting about believing in some mystical underground war-room with high-backed chairs and evil laughs? The Man isn't out to put you down, or force you to buy Goldbond medicated foot powder.

You can do what you want to. For me, I find that the power of creation in engineering is extremely satisfying. Add in a healthy dose of Christianity, and I'm about as fine as can be. I'm not saying this is the road for everybody, but if you just find what works for you, you'll be ok. Everybody has a void or a hole in themselves. I fill it with religion. You might fill it with art or music. Just don't fill it with White Castle. It takes a bit of self discipline, but eventually you won't be frittering away your time here looking for something- anything- to take your mind off the fact that you don't know where you're going or what you're looking for.

Just create something. Do something positive. Write. Read. Talk. It ALWAYS feels like culture is going to the dogs. It's not. You just need to find something or somebody to love.
Eutrusca
30-12-2004, 20:19
I have come to realize that i hate everything about this gross, abhorent culture. I hate its hypocrisy and its non-stop flow of meaningless garbage that is forced into our minds. It is a gross, horrible cycle of unhappiness and hate that is feed to us on a platter of false bullshit.

I fucking hate MTV and Reality TV and fucking ADVERTISEMENTS ruining our youth and culture. I hate the motherfuckers that sit in their CEO board meetings and figure out next how to best exploite my age group. How to force my peers to feel inadequate about themselves: how to feel shitty enough about themselves to buy all their bullshit so some asshole get get a couple extra million dollars. These people are largely responsibly for the rape of the teenage mind; the vast sea of prescription pills, anerexia, and suicide.

I fucking hate the mock democracy that our forefather's set up. The corruption of the system, the capitalistic selling of votes to the prettiest face and best liar. Something is wrong with it, just wrong.

I fucking hate the murderous fucks called terrorists, i fucking hate the lying bastards called politians, i fucking hate the degenerate fucks called CEOs. I hate school and the false sense of "accomplishment" and false expectations to live "the good life". I hate the day by day imprisionment called learning. Learning what? wasting 20 of the best years of my life submitting myself to idiots and rejects.

I hate the morality that my culture produced in my brain, so that i see violence and its ok, but the beauty of a women is not. Where i can be sent to kill and be killed, but cannot drink alcohol, do drugs, or have a loving relationship. Where my 13 year old sister is laughing hysterically at a movie which portrays the mass murder of people, or where myself find another's pain laughable.

Where my friend's girlfriend stops eating because her disgusting, immoral father (who actually deserves death) does nothing but ridicule her-- so without that moral support she turns to the next best (actually worst) outlet- the media. And what does the media feed her? a beautiful blonde with a perfect body, which she can never become, and because she can never be that- she constantly feels inadequate and therefore... stops eating.

God, i dont know what to say. I dont know what would be better then this, i dont know any solutions. All i know is that this culture is very wrong, its so very wrong.

Poor baby. Tsk!

I could try to explain to you all the reasons for things being the way they are. I could try to explain to you that you have three options [ chage it, leave it, or live with it ]. I could help you try to cope with your ennui. But I've learned that it's best when someone has as much angst going on as you apparently do, to just leave them alone and let time work its magic. :)