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According to most of the posts that I have read of this board, because I am a Republican, I am also a "hillbilly" or "redneck."

This, despite the fact that I live in Philadelphia, a major city.

Anyway, I just really don't like being labeled as something that I'm not.

I am a Republican because I am against frivilous taxes that go to fund badly-run programs. I am a Repbulican because I believe in protecting my country against outside attacks. I am a Republican because I believe in protecting my civil rights, rather than, like a Democrat, just saying that I'm protecting them, while in reality, I am infringing upon them. Most importantly, I am a Republican because I believe the federal government should have a limited role in goverment as a whole, because local governments will always know what is better for their own pupulations.

For all these reasons, and more, I am a Republican, but not because I am a "hillbilly" or "redneck."


P.S. Shame on you people who actually use terms like redneck and hillbilly, but then protest in defense of "civil rights" against those who say "******" or "jew."

According to most of the posts that I have read of this board, because I am a Republican, I am also a "hillbilly" or "redneck."

This, despite the fact that I live in Philadelphia, a major city.

Anyway, I just really don't like being labeled as something that I'm not.

I am a Republican because I am against frivilous taxes that go to fund badly-run programs. I am a Repbulican because I believe in protecting my country against outside attacks. I am a Republican because I believe in protecting my civil rights, rather than, like a Democrat, just saying that I'm protecting them, while in reality, I am infringing upon them. Most importantly, I am a Republican because I believe the federal government should have a limited role in goverment as a whole, because local governments will always know what is better for their own pupulations.

For all these reasons, and more, I am a Republican, but not because I am a "hillbilly" or "redneck."


P.S. Shame on you people who actually use terms like redneck and hillbilly, but then protest in defense of "civil rights" against those who say "******" or "jew."

It's illegal to say "jew" now?

I used to be republican, but alas they deserted me and our once shared beliefs. The democratic party is no better, they have abandoned their core beliefs. I'll stick with conservative.

BTW if Bush is a true republican, then I'm Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Now, I want to start off by saying that I partially agree with you. People certainly should label all Republicans as "rednecks" or "hillbillys," because it's simply not true.

You say you're Republican because you believe in protecting your country against outside attacks. I think all Americans share that belief, not just Republicans. We just differ on the best way to go about doing it. I personally believe many of Bush's policies are detrimental to the "War on Terror."

As for the civil rights part, please explain? Don't forget, it's mainly Republicans/conservatives who keep trying to make gay marriage illegal. Isn't that a civil right? Maybe not yours, but does that make it any less important?

As for the federal government having a limited role as a whole, what do you think about the Patriot Act then? The Department of Homeland Security as a whole?

One more thing, I notice you didn't mention fiscal responsibility. Is that because that's not something this current President has practiced? I personally beleive the government should be run by a business, in that you shouldn't be allowed to spend more money than you take in. Cutting taxes while simultaneously raising spending just doesn't cut it.

Now, please don't interpret this as an attack on you, talking about these things do annoy me a little sometimes, but hopefully that didn't show through.

EDIT: I see Defensor Fidei is here already...my suggestion to everyone: ignore him.

P.S. Shame on you people who actually use terms like redneck and hillbilly, but then protest in defense of "civil rights" against those who say "******" or "jew."
Those to whom you refer here are seldom concerned with such nicities as logic, reason, and internal consistency. It all depends upon whose ox is being gored. :)

Because the left are bunch of bomb throwers and that's all they can do. Moreover, I thank them for that it makes it a lot easier to win.

Why am I a redneck hillbilly???

It's the double wide with several mangey dogs and three broken down cars in the yard. :D

Now, I want to start off by saying that I partially agree with you. People certainly should label all Republicans as "rednecks" or "hillbillys," because it's simply not true.

You say you're Republican because you believe in protecting your country against outside attacks. I think all Americans share that belief, not just Republicans. We just differ on the best way to go about doing it. I personally believe many of Bush's policies are detrimental to the "War on Terror."

As for the civil rights part, please explain? Don't forget, it's mainly Republicans/conservatives who keep trying to make gay marriage illegal. Isn't that a civil right? Maybe not yours, but does that make it any less important?

As for the federal government having a limited role as a whole, what do you think about the Patriot Act then? The Department of Homeland Security as a whole?

One more thing, I notice you didn't mention fiscal responsibility. Is that because that's not something this current President has practiced? I personally beleive the government should be run by a business, in that you shouldn't be allowed to spend more money than you take in. Cutting taxes while simultaneously raising spending just doesn't cut it.

Now, please don't interpret this as an attack on you, talking about these things do annoy me a little sometimes, but hopefully that didn't show through.

EDIT: I see Defensor Fidei is here already...my suggestion to everyone: ignore him.

I) There is no "war on terror."
II) "Homosexuals" have not any right to "marry."
III) PATRIOT act is the precursor to a communist police state.

IV) Your attempts at ad hominem style smearing make you look "blaringly" pathetic.

As for the civil rights part, please explain? Don't forget, it's mainly Republicans/conservatives who keep trying to make gay marriage illegal. Isn't that a civil right? Maybe not yours, but does that make it any less important?

As for the federal government having a limited role as a whole, what do you think about the Patriot Act then? The Department of Homeland Security as a whole?

One more thing, I notice you didn't mention fiscal responsibility. Is that because that's not something this current President has practiced? I personally beleive the government should be run by a business, in that you shouldn't be allowed to spend more money than you take in. Cutting taxes while simultaneously raising spending just doesn't cut it.

Now, please don't interpret this as an attack on you, talking about these things do annoy me a little sometimes, but hopefully that didn't show through.

EDIT: I see Defensor Fidei is here already...my suggestion to everyone: ignore him.


Well, these first two people didn't actually respond to my question. But you did so I'll respond to you.

Concerning civil rights, I never really expounded my own beliefs. I just said that I don't like when people are hypocritical as in calling people rednecks but then protesting when someone says ****** or jew.

Cocnerning the federal government, I said it has a limited role, as this is the enforcement of laws and the protection of our country ..... I believe the Patriot Act falls into the protection category.

Actaully, i did mention fiscal responsibility, in that i do not like my taxes going to poorly-run government programs. Also, believe the debt we incurred going into Iraq is also part of the whole protection thing, adn that, other than that, the current administration has been fiscally conservative.

According to most of the posts that I have read of this board, because I am a Republican, I am also a "hillbilly" or "redneck."

Maybe it's because of your shirt. Have you tried using other fabrics that are not as irritating?

I) There is no "war on terror."
II) "Homosexuals" have not any right to "marry."
III) PATRIOT act is the precursor to a communist police state.

IV) Your attempts at ad hominem style smearing make you look "blaringly" pathetic.


What no war on terror? I guess that’s true if Germany and France aren’t involved, I guess you can't call it a war.

Well, these first two people didn't actually respond to my question. But you did so I'll respond to you.

Concerning civil rights, I never really expounded my own beliefs. I just said that I don't like when people are hypocritical as in calling people rednecks but then protesting when someone says ****** or jew.

Cocnerning the federal government, I said it has a limited role, as this is the enforcement of laws and the protection of our country ..... I believe the Patriot Act falls into the protection category.

Actaully, i did mention fiscal responsibility, in that i do not like my taxes going to poorly-run government programs. Also, believe the debt we incurred going into Iraq is also part of the whole protection thing, adn that, other than that, the current administration has been fiscally conservative.
Fair enough. I definately agree with you in that I don't like people being hypocritical.

I did notice the poorly-run programs part, but didn't quite realize you meant it as fiscal responsibility. My idea of fiscal responsibility is basically just look at the sum total of everything. If you're taking in more money than you're spending, or if it's at least close, then overall you're probably not doing too bad. It's simplified, and it involves a bit of trust in leaders, but it works for me.

For the other parts, we just have different ideas on the best ways to achieve the same goals. Gotta love democracy :)

and the last two Democratic US Presidents where from what states?

(GWB doesn't count as a redneck, he is really from New England)

I am a Republican because I believe in protecting my civil rights

No, that makes you Libertarian.

A Republican is an authoritarian on a ego/moral trip, and that's what they'll be defined as till the party changes course again.

No, that makes you Libertarian.

A Republican is an authoritarian on a ego/moral trip, and that's what they'll be defined as till the party changes course again --- so it can truly be the part of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt once more.

You don't think Teddy and Lincoln were authoritarian?

You don't think Teddy and Lincoln were authoritarian?

Touche. Although I was more just talking about the moral aspect.

I am a Republican because I believe in protecting my civil rights, rather than, like a Democrat, just saying that I'm protecting them, while in reality, I am infringing upon them. Most importantly, I am a Republican because I believe the federal government should have a limited role in goverment as a whole, because local governments will always know what is better for their own pupulations.

you protect those civil rights! like the ability to ban homosexuality and abortion! and the ability to not distribute birth control while bitching about teen births and abortions of unwanted children

your in the wrong party. oh yeah republicans are all for small government. overturn roe v wade! ban abortion! ban gay marriage at federal level!

i am a democrat, well more exactly not a republican, because i believe that people as a whole are too stupid to govern themselves and the local government knows no better how people should be treated locally than the federal government does, and quite often they know less *cough* civil rights *cough* *cough* ban gay marriage *cough*

Yes well, you can't help that some people follow party lines to their own extinction. (That goes for both of you)

What no war on terror? I guess that’s true if Germany and France aren’t involved, I guess you can't call it a war.

I agree. If Europe hasn't messed up the rest of the world in a bad way because an insane idiot from France or Germany decides to take over the world then it can't be called a war. It's more of a squirmish, a small fight on terror at most.

If you've ever had a working TV set on top of one that doesn't...you might be a redneck.

France

Napolean wasn't French.

The French haven't been a threat since... um... (tries to remember AP Euro)... um... gimme a second...

If you've ever had a working TV set on top of one that doesn't...you might be a redneck.

If your family tree doesn't fork.

Touche. Although I was more just talking about the moral aspect.

I think Teddy would be all too comfortable in helping to establish the NWO. He's the original NeoCon.

I prefer to refer to myself as a 'Coolidge' Republican.


The political genius of President Coolidge, Walter Lippmann pointed out in 1926, was his talent for effectively doing nothing: "This active inactivity suits the mood and certain of the needs of the country admirably. It suits all the business interests which want to be let alone.... And it suits all those who have become convinced that government in this country has become dangerously complicated and top-heavy...."


Top heavy...in 1926! Imagine what they would think now.

The French haven't been a threat since... um... (tries to remember AP Euro)... um... gimme a second...

Since it was controlled by Italians?.

If your family tree doesn't fork.
if you work without a shirt on and so does your husband...

I agree. If Europe hasn't messed up the rest of the world in a bad way because an insane idiot from France or Germany decides to take over the world then it can't be called a war. It's more of a squirmish, a small fight on terror at most.

If Europe hadn't screwed up the world for centuries, we wouldn't be in all of these "squirmish's".

As Billy Joel sang:

’49 harry truman, doris day, red china, johnnie ray
South pacific, walter winchell, joe dimaggio

’50 joe mccarthy, richard nixon, studebaker, television
North korea, south korea, marilyn monroe

’51 rosenbergs, h-bomb, sugar ray, panmunjom
Brando, the king and I and the catcher in the rye

’52 eisenhower, vaccine, england’s got a new queen
Marciano, liberace, santayana goodbye

Chorus
We didn’t start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world’s been turning
We didn’t start the fire
No we didn’t light it
But we tried to fight it

’53 joseph stalin, malenkov, nasser and prokofiev
Rockefeller, campanella, communist bloc

’54 roy cohn, juan peron, toscanini, dacron
Dien bien phu falls, rock around the clock

’55 einstein, james dean, brooklyn’s got a winning team
Davy crockett, peter pan, elvis presley, disneyland

’56 bardot, budapest, alabama, krushchev
Princess grace, peyton place, trouble in the suez

Chorus

’57 little rock, pasternak, mickey mantle, kerouac
Sputnik, chou en-lai, bridge on the river kwai

’58 lebanon, charles de gaulle, california baseball
Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide

’59 buddy holly, ben hur, space monkey, mafia
Hula hoops, castro, edsel is a no-go

’60 u-2, syngman rhee, payola and kennedy
Chubby checker, psycho, belgians in the congo

Chorus

’61 hemingway, eichmann, stranger in a strange land
Dylan, berlin, bay of pigs invasion

’62 lawrence of arabia, british beatlemania
Ole miss, john glenn, liston beats patterson

’63 pope paul, malcolm x, british politician sex
Jfk, blown away, what else do I have to say

Chorus

’64 - ’89 birth control, ho chi minh, richard nixon back again
Moonshot, woodstock, watergate, punk rock
Begin, reagan, palestine, terror on the airline
Ayatollah’s in iran, russians in afghanistan

Wheel of fortune, sally ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless vets, aids, crack, bernie goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, china’s under martial law
Rock and roller cola wars, I can’t take it anymore

Chorus

We didn’t start the fire
But when we are gone
Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on...

Napolean wasn't French.

The French haven't been a threat since... um... (tries to remember AP Euro)... um... gimme a second...
Napoleon wasn´t French and Hitler wasn´t German.
So in that respect none of those nations ever was a threat.

and the last two Democratic US Presidents where from what states?

(GWB doesn't count as a redneck, he is really from New England)
yep, he's just a northeasterner who puts on a fake southern accent, just like I can do a fake southern accent. People think it makes him sound more...*puts on southern drawl* friendly like.

Napoleon wasn´t French and Hitler wasn´t German.
So in that respect none of those nations ever was a threat.

Kaiser Willhelm II was German. So is the British Royal family. Must I continue.

if you work without a shirt on and so does your husband...

If your family tree has no branches

You think TACO BELL is
the Mexican Phone Company

You think Genitalia is an Italian airline.

Your sister is the third generation
of women in your family to conceive
a baby as a result of an alien abduction.

You think the last words to
The Star Spangled Banner are
"Gentlemen, start your engines."

Your whole family is Democrats
except little Mary.
She lernt to readin'.

A seven course meal is a bucket of KFC and a sixpack.

The Halloween pumpkin on your front porch has more teeth than your wife.

Last but not least:

You've ever climbed a water tower
with a bucket of paint
to defend your sister's honor.

Kaiser Willhelm II was German. So is the British Royal family. Must I continue.
All royal families of Europe are related.
Though compared to madman like Hitler or Stalin, none royal family deserves as much blame as they.

you protect those civil rights! like the ability to ban homosexuality and abortion! and the ability to not distribute birth control while bitching about teen births and abortions of unwanted children

your in the wrong party. oh yeah republicans are all for small government. overturn roe v wade! ban abortion! ban gay marriage at federal level!

i am a democrat, well more exactly not a republican, because i believe that people as a whole are too stupid to govern themselves and the local government knows no better how people should be treated locally than the federal government does, and quite often they know less *cough* civil rights *cough* *cough* ban gay marriage *cough*

Let us not bait for flame good sir. *Strokes his Colonel Sanders tie-thing*

All royal families of Europe are related.
Though compared to madman like Hitler or Stalin, none royal family deserves as much blame as they.

It is funny that inbred Europeans were the rulers for centuries. Are they the original rednecks? Heck most of their family trees had their branches pruned off years ago.

All royal families of Europe are related.
Though compared to madman like Hitler or Stalin, none royal family deserves as much blame as they.

Indeed they are. Incest, not really the best message to send out. I know first cousins is legal, but to make it compulsory. Can't be good.

And neither Hitler nor Stalin were mad. They were just fanatically ambitious, an admirable quality when people don't get killed.

Indeed they are. Incest, not really the best message to send out. I know first cousins is legal, but to make it compulsory. Can't be good.
It was not compulsory. But royal marriages were a means of diplomacy. And therefore such marriages were there to bind the houses with each others.
The Habsburg dynasty was able to create a big kingdom mainly true this means - as it is said: Felix multos Austria - Happy Austria marry.
That brought them Bohemia and - for some time even Spain - and "an empire where the sun doesn´t go down".

It was not compulsory. But royal marriages were a means of diplomacy. And therefore such marriages were there to bind the houses with each others.
The Habsburg dynasty was able to create a big kingdom mainly true this means - as it is said: Felix multos Austria - Happy Austria marry.
That brought them Bohemia and - for some time even Spain - and "an empire where the sun doesn´t go down".

Yup. But before that it was infact compulsory to marry another royal family. This was mostly due to diplomatic need but it built into a god sent thing. Monarchy's are odd things. I'm glad I don't live in..........Noooooooooooo, damn that Queen, damn her.

And also. The British Empire was damn impressive really. And it was all brought about by cheating.

I am a Republican because I am against frivilous taxes that go to fund badly-run programs. I am a Repbulican because I believe in protecting my country against outside attacks. I am a Republican because I believe in protecting my civil rights, rather than, like a Democrat, just saying that I'm protecting them, while in reality, I am infringing upon them. Most importantly, I am a Republican because I believe the federal government should have a limited role in goverment as a whole, because local governments will always know what is better for their own pupulations.

Yeah, the federal ban gay marriage proposal was really sticking up for civil rights and states' rights, wasn't it? :rolleyes:

The Patriot Act, certainly reducing the size of government, right?

Maybe you haven't noticed it, but it seems to me that ALL Americans are in faovur of defending their country. Just half of them don't also hate the world and say "fuck 'em we can do what we want!"

Yup. But before that it was infact compulsory to marry another royal family. This was mostly due to diplomatic need but it built into a god sent thing. Monarchy's are odd things. I'm glad I don't live in..........Noooooooooooo, damn that Queen, damn her.

And also. The British Empire was damn impressive really. And it was all brought about by cheating.

Eh, it was more through a cunning usage of flags then anything else :p

According to most of the posts that I have read of this board, because I am a Republican, I am also a "hillbilly" or "redneck."

This, despite the fact that I live in Philadelphia, a major city.

Anyway, I just really don't like being labeled as something that I'm not.

I am a Republican because I am against frivilous taxes that go to fund badly-run programs. I am a Repbulican because I believe in protecting my country against outside attacks. I am a Republican because I believe in protecting my civil rights, rather than, like a Democrat, just saying that I'm protecting them, while in reality, I am infringing upon them. Most importantly, I am a Republican because I believe the federal government should have a limited role in goverment as a whole, because local governments will always know what is better for their own pupulations.

For all these reasons, and more, I am a Republican, but not because I am a "hillbilly" or "redneck."


P.S. Shame on you people who actually use terms like redneck and hillbilly, but then protest in defense of "civil rights" against those who say "******" or "jew."

As long as you dont support Bush its fine (but if you do, just let me say, Bush has done NOTHING to limit the government, in fact has increased the governments role)

But seriously Republicans are all hillbilly rednecks (just kidding) Only Bush supporters are.