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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041217/wl_afp/cubaus_041217202554

Has anyone seen this? It's friggin' insane.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/wl/121704cubabillboard&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=&e=1&t=&prev=3

I apologize if this has been all over the news or something, I don't watch the news.

I wish that asshole would die already. There's a steaming hot skillet reserved for his black, putrid soul down in Hell.

Yeah I saw that on BBC News already. Damned funny, Castro is awesome :p

See with the war in Iraq taking up all america's troops, dictators can do anything. North Korea and Iran are building nukes, Putin is poisnoned that guy in Ukraine and since Cuba with no WMD program, and not much else to do they figured they would just put up a giant billboard. Its the best they could come up with I guess.

Castro is awesome :p

I concur..

Get well soon, Fidel! You'll be out of that wheelchair and on your feet in no time... :)

Yeah I saw that on BBC News already. Damned funny, Castro is awesome :p

Read Against all Hope by Armando Vallandres. That might make you change your mind.

Heh heh...I found that quite funny. The US-Cuba thing has gotten to the point of comical absurdity (at least for me).

Why don't evil people die? :mp5:

fight fire with fire, thats what castro is doing as usual

oh well, hah ha, thats what happens

At least Castro had the balls to say "Fuck you" to America and their greedy corporations.

Though Cuba is a piece of shit now, so maybe it wasn't worth it.

At least Castro had the balls to say "Fuck you" to America and their greedy corporations.

Though Cuba is a piece of shit now, so maybe it wasn't worth it.

It really wasn't worth it, as Cuba is still a fabulously silly place. Unless of course you are looking for parts for your 55 chevy.

Why don't evil people die? :mp5:

I agree. Somebody should really assassinate Bush. :sniper:

At least Castro had the balls to say "Fuck you" to America and their greedy corporations.

Though Cuba is a piece of shit now, so maybe it wasn't worth it.

BTW wouldn't all for profit corporations be considered "greedy" as they all want to make the most possible money for their shareholders? Or are you saying that Honda, or BP aren't looking for profits?

I agree. Somebody should really assassinate Bush. :sniper:

It's not nice to wish for the death of someone. It's called karma and what goes around, comes around.

It's not nice to wish for the death of someone. It's called karma and what goes around, comes around.
If you believe in it, that is :)

It's not nice to wish for the death of someone. It's called karma and what goes around, comes around.

Lol, you sound like my grandma! :p

Lol, you sound like my grandma! :p


I'm probably old enough to be, but alas I have an "outie", not an "inie", so I would be your grandpa. Just don't sit on my lap. But seriously if you carry hate in your heart, you will not live a good life.

This must be the first international bitch fight ever....both nations are acting like catty little school girls...

US: You are a ho!
Cuba: Yo mama, beeatch!

I'm sorry but karma is bullshit.

I'd like to restore a 57 Chevy Bel-Air, so do you think I could get the State Department to allow me to go down there to Cuba and pick up any parts I may need.

"I don't want to pay alot for this quarter panel!!!"-Me

I'm sorry but karma is bullshit.

It may well be, but you'll have a happier life if you don't wish for the murders of people.

Ah, but what most of you seem to forget is that you would all be spending the holidays in prison in Cuba for posting as you do on this Forum. The worst thing that happens to you here is that a few right-wingers throw verbal spit-wads at you for being lefties! :D

It may well be, but you'll have a happier life if you don't wish for the murders of people.

If Dubya was dead, I'd be a much happier man.

If Dubya was dead, I'd be a much happier man.


Why, then Cheney would be President? Would you rather have him in charge?

[QUOTE=Zarbia]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041217/wl_afp/cubaus_041217202554

Has anyone seen this? It's friggin' insane.
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A typical hypocrit, what is insane and outrageous is that your scum tortured and still does, not letting the people know by billboards, even when it is propaganda.

Ah, but what most of you seem to forget is that you would all be spending the holidays in prison in Cuba for posting as you do on this Forum. The worst thing that happens to you here is that a few right-wingers throw verbal spit-wads at you for being lefties! :D

USA has the highest number of prisoners in the world, both in terms of the total number and the percentage of citizens.

Ah, but what most of you seem to forget is that you would all be spending the holidays in prison in Cuba for posting as you do on this Forum.

We are not forgetting that Cuba's human rights record is questionable at best. We are appreciating the irony of the USA being critical of Cuba's policy to detain political dissidents. Detaining political dissidents...why does that seem so familiar?

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,272240,00.jpg

;)

USA has the highest number of prisoners in the world, both in terms of the total number and the percentage of citizens.
And your point is???

And your point is???

Those who live in glass houses...

The irony is...the US is bitching about Cuba having political prisoners while its holding political prisoners in Cuba!...this can't be real...am I on acid? I am not going to believe this stupidity is really happening....I fell into another dimension didn't I?

Those who live in glass houses...
ROFLMAO!!! Well, one of two things is true ... either you're woefully ignorant of the American Judicial Process, or you just like comparing apples and oranges in the hope that no one notices.

The irony is...the US is bitching about Cuba having political prisoners while its holding political prisoners in Cuba!...this can't be real...am I on acid? I am not going to believe this stupidity is really happening....I fell into another dimension didn't I?
No, but that would be a welcome event.

Well we did take those people from what was a war zone, didn't we? I'm sure they are all innocent. BTW why the heck would they be in a war zone if they were not involved somehow.

No, but that would be a welcome event.

Oh I see you are a native of the dimension where it is proper for nations to engage in slap fights, where nation fight by scartching each other eyes out and pulling each other hair...I was from dimension where nations at least tried to act dignified.

It's not nice to wish for the death of someone. It's called karma and what goes around, comes around.

I'm really sorry. Lets say I only wish that Bush is not going to be elected again. And if because I wished that I can't be elected as USA president, so be it.

Well we did take those people from what was a war zone, didn't we? I'm sure they are all innocent. BTW why the heck would they be in a war zone if they were not involved somehow.

Iraq as a whole is war zone so where should innocent Iraqi people be?

Oh I see you are a native of the dimension where it is proper for nations to engage in slap fights, where nation fight by scartching each other eyes out and pulling each other hair...I was from dimension where nations at least tried to act dignified.
LOL! I find myself saying this more and more often lately; where did I say that? Quote me. If you can prove that's what I said or advocate, please let me know and I'll post a retraction and an apology. :)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20041217/capt.sge.put28.171204202544.photo00.photo.default-369x276.jpg

this is a really good idea. how much does billboard rental cost?

LOL! I find myself saying this more and more often lately; where did I say that? Quote me. If you can prove that's what I said or advocate, please let me know and I'll post a retraction and an apology. :)

You seem to be excusing the current diplomatic policy of Dimension X's US regarding Dimension X's Cuba and Christmas lights, where I come from...Nations do not conduct diplomacy as if they were on the Jerry Springer Show...

ROFLMAO!!! Well, one of two things is true ... either you're woefully ignorant of the American Judicial Process, or you just like comparing apples and oranges in the hope that no one notices.

Are you really rolling on the floor?I find that quite hard to believe.

Face it America leads the world in the repression business (well maybe china beats us). We execute people for crimes commited while they were children, we use prisoners as cheap labor, we label american citizens "Enemy combatants" and lock them up and through away the key without access to the judicial process, we lock away non violent drug offenders, we execute people who have had incompetent public defenders sleeping durring the trial, we use torture as a tactic in Iraq and Afgahnistan, we send prisoners to other countries for torture.

As far as our relations to Cuba goes we support and harbor cuban terrorists who have bombed airlines and hotels and in the case of the cuban 5 arrested cubans who inflitrated US based cuban terrorists gangs and demanded them to be arrested.

As far as reppression against US political dissenters the list is a mile long from the palmer raids to the Red Scare to the murder of dozens of black panthers to the Waco massacre.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20041217/capt.sge.put28.171204202544.photo00.photo.default-369x276.jpg

this is a really good idea. how much does billboard rental cost?

Heh. Easy and cheap = flyposting.

Iraq as a whole is war zone so where should innocent Iraqi people be?

At home eating waffles, watching the game on the tube?

Heh. Easy and cheap = flyposting.

well, yeah. but imagine an entire interstate lined with billboards showing u.s. torture victims. we'd also need a bunch of catchy slogans to go along with them. hmmmm....

If we keep this up until Christmas we might be able to win the Cold War.

well, yeah. but imagine an entire interstate lined with billboards showing u.s. torture victims. we'd also need a bunch of catchy slogans to go along with them. hmmmm....

Wouldn't the government block such an enterprise?

This...this is damned sad.

This is also damned funny.

Wouldn't the government block such an enterprise?

probably eventually. but it would take them awhile if we rented those things in the name of some dummy corporation we made up and put some sort of advertisement on the bottom of it. advertising is always acceptable.

At home eating waffles, watching the game on the tube?

Home is bombarded to ruins and waffles eaten by US soldiers.

probably eventually. but it would take them awhile if we rented those things in the name of some dummy corporation we made up and put some sort of advertisement on the bottom of it. advertising is always acceptable.

Plus you may get some media attention for the billboards and whichever group organises it, if they do put a stop to it. Maybe you should contact The Yes Men. :D

Home is bombarded to ruins and waffles eaten by US soldiers.

Skin a camel, make a shelter, turn on the game (using a Gilligan's Island powersource), lick up the syrup, or eat said camel.

Heh. Easy and cheap = flyposting.


No way! Do you know how much it costs to blow up color prints at kinkos? It has to be like $3 or 4 a square foot.

Plus you have to ask yourself, do you really want to see naked Arab man-ass enlarged 50x?

Hehe, Castro can't win this one! He can put up all of the signs he wants. The only thing he has accomplished is bring more worldwide attention to the case of the 75 jailed dissidents. I bet many people who read the article had no idea Castro had recently jailed 75 people whose only crime was to speak out against the government.

If they kept reading more news about Cuba they would also find out that Castro's granddaughter just became a U.S. citizen this week. I bet very few of you knew Castro's sister, daughter and granddaughter are exiled in the U.S.

There is also the story about the Cuban doctor who wants to visit her family living in Argentina but Castro won’t allow her to leave. The president of Argentina wrote Castro a letter asking him to let the doctor visit but Castro declined. He says her family can come visit her in the island but that she cannot leave. Castro says that the doctor’s brain is a "National Patrimony." Scary huh?

To think some people still support this maniac. This little feud over the signs is just proving how intransigent the Castro regime really is. I mean what kind of way is that to react to some stupid Christmas decorations and sign with the number 75 on it? Just imagine what he would do to a regular Cuban if they ever decide to put up a sign asking for the release of the 75 dissidents. But who cares right? As long as the Cuban people know how to read and write and they can visit a doctor for free everything is fine.

Hehe, Castro can't win this one! He can put up all of the signs he wants. The only thing he has accomplished is bring more worldwide attention to the case of the 75 jailed dissidents. I bet many people who read the article had no idea Castro had recently jailed 75 people whose only crime was to speak out against the government.

If they kept reading more news about Cuba they would also find out that Castro's granddaughter just became a U.S. citizen this week. I bet very few of you knew Castro's sister, daughter and granddaughter are exiled in the U.S.

There is also the story about the Cuban doctor who wants to visit her family living in Argentina but Castro won’t allow her to leave. The president of Argentina wrote Castro a letter asking him to let the doctor visit but Castro declined. He says her family can come visit her in the island but that she cannot leave. Castro says that the doctor’s brain is a "National Patrimony." Scary huh?

To think some people still support this maniac. This little feud over the signs is just proving how intransigent the Castro regime really is. I mean what kind of way is that to react to some stupid Christmas decorations and sign with the number 75 on it? Just imagine what he would do to a regular Cuban if they ever decide to put up a sign asking for the release of the 75 dissidents. But who cares right?

Haha, you so funny.
USA thinks it's clever by making some stupid Christmas display pointing out that Cuba is still detaining 75 activists, Cuba points out that the US tortures its Iraqi prisoners. I think Cuba wins.

But who cares right? As long as the Cuban people know how to read and write and they can visit a doctor for free everything is fine.

I agree.

I agree.

So Cuba's free health care justifies Castro's imprisonment, torture, and execution of thousands of innocent people, his active support of terrorism, Cuba's complete absence of civil and political rights, etc.?

Haha, you so funny.
USA thinks it's clever by making some stupid Christmas display pointing out that Cuba is still detaining 75 activists, Cuba points out that the US tortures its Iraqi prisoners. I think Cuba wins.



I agree.

Do they really win? This stupid argument about the signs is bringing foward all of the other violations of human rights in Cuba that nobody would have ever heard about. Castro's government is the one that ends up looking bad here. Everybody already knows about the Iraqi prisoners but very few know anything about the Cuban prisoners. Now because of this little "show" he's put on the whole world will probably hear about this. In these last few years Castro has been trying to put foward an image of an old benevolent dictator but these latest arrests have brought it all crashing down. He is still as oppresive as he was in 1959.

And of course you agree that everything is fine. Since you don't live in Cuba what do you care if people get arrested for voicing their opinions? What do you care that children are forced to work in the fields for their so called free education? Its all fine and dandy from the view behind your computer screen. You can say whatever you want and nobody is going to come looking for you to jail you for 25 years.

execution of thousands of innocent people

A vile lie! Cuba declared a moratorium on the death penalty in 2001, unlike its neighbors to the north!

Do they really win? This stupid argument about the signs is bringing foward all of the other violations of human rights in Cuba that nobody would have ever heard about. Castro's government is the one that ends up looking bad here. Everybody already knows about the Iraqi prisoners but very few know anything about the Cuban prisoners. Now because of this little "show" he's put on the whole world will probably hear about this. In these last few years Castro has been trying to put foward an image of an old benevolent dictator but these latest arrests have brought it all crashing down. He is still as oppresive as he was in 1959.

And of course you agree that everything is fine. Since you don't live in Cuba what do you care if people get arrested for voicing their opinions? What do you care that children are forced to work in the fields for their so called free education? Its all fine and dandy from the view behind your computer screen. You can say whatever you want and nobody is going to come looking for you to jail you for 25 years.hey man, better start on the amish with all those kids working in the field. seriously, i dont see a problem with kids working in a field, of course iwouldnt do it, but then again im not amish and the us isnt poor as dirt, well its not recognizing its poor anyway.

hey man, better start on the amish with all those kids working in the field. seriously, i dont see a problem with kids working in a field, of course iwouldnt do it, but then again im not amish and the us isnt poor as dirt, well its not recognizing its poor anyway.

I have no problem with kids working in the fields either. But just imagine how you would feel if the government forced you to do it? My problem is that those kids are forced to work in the field. They are taken away from their families and sent to farm schools. If they don't go they are ostracized and get no education at all. Like you said, you wouldn't do it. So if you were a Cuban child that means you wouldn't be able to go to school and then when you became an adult you wouldn't have a job because you have no education.

A vile lie! Cuba declared a moratorium on the death penalty in 2001, unlike its neighbors to the north!

Aren't you forgetting the first years of the revolution? The killings aren't as frequent now but every once in a while he kills a few to keep people in line. The latest being last year when he killed 3 black men who attempted to hijack a ferry to come to Miami.

Damned funny, Castro is awesome :p
Castro is right to point out US hypocrisy, but he's a dictator!

So Cuba's free health care justifies Castro's imprisonment, torture, and execution of thousands of innocent people, his active support of terrorism, Cuba's complete absence of civil and political rights, etc.?
No, it doesn't, but remember that the USA also harbours, trains and sponsers terrorism. The USA also executes people.

A vile lie! Cuba declared a moratorium on the death penalty in 2001, unlike its neighbors to the north!
Robert Mugabe was elected with the full support of the people. :rolleyes:

From Amnesty Libernational :
Although the unofficial moratorium on executions declared in 2001 apparently remained in place, at least three prisoners were sentenced to death in 2002: Ramón González, Iván Rodríguez and Gabriel Lindón. Prosecutors argued for the death penalty to be imposed on at least three other individuals. At the end of 2002, more than 50 people remained on death row.
Here (http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/cub-summary-eng)

Robert Mugabe was elected with the full support of the people. :rolleyes:

From Amnesty Libernational :

Here (http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/cub-summary-eng)

ok you got me, they kill a few now and then, it is far from "thousands of innocent people" though.

ok you got me, they kill a few now and then, it is far from "thousands of innocent people" though.

Well if you start counting from 1959 it has been "thousands of innocent people"

Well if you start counting from 1959 it has been "thousands of innocent people"

And if you count all the US has done it has killed thousands of innocent people in a much shorter time span.

The Americans stationed there have no claim to moral superiority. Castro was responding to a hypocritical dig. His governmnet may be guilty, but so is the American government.

It's so fucking funny! Let's laugh at people's defiled bodies! Who cares about the people who suffered! Lets just laugh at the US! We really do hate them for human rights abuses, but we don't really care about the people killed! :rolleyes:

And if you count all the US has done it has killed thousands of innocent people in a much shorter time span.

The Americans stationed there have no claim to moral superiority. Castro was responding to a hypocritical dig. His governmnet may be guilty, but so is the American government.

So why the fuck don't you guys criticize Castro? Oh right, he's funny for putting of pictures of tortured people. Thats not funny. thats fucking sadistic.

Ahh Castro, he's portrayed as a cute and cuddly dictator, but he really isn't.

Ahh Castro, he's portrayed as a cute and cuddly dictator, but he really isn't.

Do not question the infalliable Castro! Any human rights offenses by Cuba are omitted because he's so funny at showing dead and defiled prisoners, but America must be scrutinized 24/7! If I trip someone, I bet I'll get called out for human rights offenses.

So why the fuck don't you guys criticize Castro? Oh right, he's funny for putting of pictures of tortured people. Thats not funny. thats fucking sadistic.
no, making the people stand in those positions and taking the pictures and releasing them is sadistic. putting those images on billboards is a poor joke

Do not question the infalliable Castro! Any human rights offenses by Cuba are omitted because he's so funny at showing dead and defiled prisoners, but America must be scrutinized 24/7! If I trip someone, I bet I'll get called out for human rights offenses.
well cuba is a dictatorship and america is a democracy that prides itself on its civil rights, hmm , who are people going to scrutinize more if some one starts getting tortured...

Doesnt mean that Cuba should scrutinized. It's quite obvious to know that america breaks human rights offenses, everyone knows that, I don't why you're acting all surprised. But of course, plastering images of defiled people is funny isnt it?

So why the fuck don't you guys criticize Castro? Oh right, he's funny for putting of pictures of tortured people. Thats not funny. thats fucking sadistic.

Because I am responding to people who are saying "how dare Castro respond to the 75 taunt in that manner!!!!1111!!!one!!!111!!"

If Castro had put up the billboards first and the Americans had responded with "75" or worse if they had pics then I would be saying - wtg USA people for pointing out the hypocrasy.

Start shit, you get shit.