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It does not take a chessplayer to realize that Bobby Fischer is an absolutely amazing man. Aside from his numerous chess accomplishments, he has an astronomical I.Q. with an exceptional memory; in the world of chess, no player has ever proved to be as devoted as Bobby Fischer. Fischer is "generally acknowledged as the greatest chessplayer of all time" (Pandolfini 1). Robert James Fischer was born in Chicago, Illinois, on March 9, 1943. His parents were divorced in 1945, and his mother moved him and his sister to Brooklyn a year or so later. "At the age of six he acquired a chess set and soon became deeply absorbed in the game" (Hooper and Whyld 115). This was the beginning of a legend.

Bobby Fischer had many incredible chess accomplishments. At age twelve, Fischer began to visit the great Manhattan Chess Club ,which had the best players in the country, and "even then hardly anybody could beat him" (Schonberg 258). At age thirteen, Fischer beat International Master, Donald Byrne, in what was generally acknowledged as the "game of the century." "The winning moves were perhaps the most insightful ever played by a youngster" (Pandolfini 2). In 1957, at age fourteen, he won the U.S. Junior Championship, which was a nice accomplishment for a young man of his age. However, that same year he won the U.S. Senior Championship overtaking the renowned Samuel Reshevsky, which was an amazing accomplishment for a man of any age. Fischer became the youngest grandmaster in the history of chess at age fifteen. "At 16 he was able to earn his living from chess" (Hooper 115), and he added status to any tournament he attended. Now the only steps left were to win the Candidates Matches and then the World Championship Match. In 1971, step one was completed with superior dominance, leaving only the World Championship Match. In 1972, Fischer domineered Borris Spassky to become the World Champion.

Contributing to Bobby Fischer's numerous chess accomplishments, was his high I.Q. and enormous memory. "There is probably no other topic that intrigues chessplayers as much as the inner machinations of the mind of Bobby Fischer" (Brady V). Chessplayers universally feel that they can improve their own game by understanding how Fischer's mind operates, but it does not take a chess player to realize that Fischer has enormous mental capabilities. A political scientist, at Fischer's high school in Brooklyn, had an opportunity to study Fischer's personal records. He was amazed to see that Fischer's I.Q. was in the range of 180, a very high genius.

http://www.howtoadvice.com/chess/bobbyfischer/

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and where is that relevant to the topic? it's a very nice story though.

Of course, there is no mention of Fischer's crime: an unauthorized trip to Yugoslavia back when sanctions were in place, and Milosevic was in power. He should pay for his crimes.

also the fact that fisher is a jew hater and borderline nazi isnt mentioned. he praised the 9/11 attack saying "they hit the jew nation hard, but not hard enough." hes a racist pice of shit. who cares if hes good at chess when hes a prick.

Bobby Fischer should probably be put in a mental institute rather than a jail.

also the fact that fisher is a jew hater and borderline nazi isnt mentioned. he praised the 9/11 attack saying "they hit the jew nation hard, but not hard enough." hes a racist pice of shit. who cares if hes good at chess when hes a prick.
I think he's just confused. I read a TIME magazine book review telling about an autobiography of him. At his match at Rekjavik, he complained about noise, lighting, even the marble the chess table was made of.
He was lumped next to two other books of geniuses gone astray. One was about a Frenchman (forgot his name) with an encyclopedic memory of ancient languages. In the 1820s, he decoded heiroglyphs, and when he was done, he passed out for eight days, as he was physically and emotionally exhausted. Another was about a kid from a Detroit suburb in the nineties. He tried to build a nuclear reactor in his garden shed.

ho shit i heard of that "the radioactive boy scout"

Of course, there is no mention of Fischer's crime: an unauthorized trip to Yugoslavia back when sanctions were in place, and Milosevic was in power. He should pay for his crimes.
That is not his real "crime"....his real crime was refusing to say he was sorry.

he played a chess game in yugoslavia...so what?
What the fuck is the big deal with that?

That is not his real "crime"....his real crime was refusing to say he was sorry.

he played a chess game in yugoslavia...so what?
What the fuck is the big deal with that?
He violated sanctions.

ho shit i heard of that "the radioactive boy scout"
I read it. Very interesting, and disturbing. It's so sad to see what genius can do when it goes unnurtured.

You've just noticed this? It was front page news here when he was arrested - 5 months ago.

Bobby Fischer should probably be put in a mental institute rather than a jail.

Yeah. Check out this:
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/specials/fischer/index.html

Nutty, nutty, nutty. He sounds almost bad enough to be wearing a tin-foil hat.

Yeah. Check out this:
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/specials/fischer/index.html

Nutty, nutty, nutty. He sounds almost bad enough to be wearing a tin-foil hat.

You got the wrong link...

Of course, there is no mention of Fischer's crime: an unauthorized trip to Yugoslavia back when sanctions were in place, and Milosevic was in power. He should pay for his crimes.

Half right. He's under indictment in the US for violations of sanctions. But that's not why he's being detained here. He's being detained for immigration violations.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Bobby_Fischer.gif

Half right. He's under indictment in the US for violkations of sanctions. But that's not why he's being detained here. He's being detained for immigration violations.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Bobby_Fischer.gif
Well, in Japan, yes. But he is wanted pretty much everywhere. Luckily, he can take comfort in the fact that he is being tried in Japan, as they have a notoriously slow court system.

You got the wrong link...

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Nope. Just checked it.

Well, in Japan, yes. But he is wanted pretty much everywhere. Luckily, he can take comfort in the fact that he is being tried in Japan, as they have a notoriously slow court system.
everywhere?

Well, in Japan, yes. But he is wanted pretty much everywhere. Luckily, he can take comfort in the fact that he is being tried in Japan, as they have a notoriously slow court system.

Again, half right. He isn't being tried here. He's being detained while fighting against deportation or extradition. And the Japanese immigration system usually acts pretty quicky compared to the courts (which are beyond slow).

everywhere?
Yep. Most every country on the planet has an extradiction treaty with either the US or Japan. Unless, that is, he flees to the Banana Republic, and leaves a miserable life in a grass hut.

Again, half right. He isn't being tried here. He's being detained while fighting against deportation or extradition. And the Japanese immigration system usually acts pretty quicky compared to the courts (which are beyond slow).
Okay then. Well, I hope they extradite him to the US.

Yep. Most every country on the planet has an extradiction treaty with either the US or Japan....You mean that how we got Bin Laden?

BTW why include Japan in your prhase?

You mean that how we got Bin Laden?

BTW why include Japan in your prhase?
Just in case he escapes. I know it's an island, but he can easily act normal for a few hours, board a plane to Bangkok, and disapear.

Because you know, if he was anyone but a UNITED STATES champion, he would derserve to pay for his crimes. Wait...

He was very high Profile...he was a rebel...

He was treatened several time but always refused to apologize.

I have studied the law in great detail and his playing a chess match with Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia in 1992 broke no law.

If that match did break the law, then all of the officers of the United States Chess Federation need to go to jail because the USCF purchased more than $500,000 worth of chess books from Yugoslavia during that time period (after receiving an "opinion of counsel" that it was all right to do so).

As far as I know, Bobby Fischer is the only person ever to have been criminally charged with violating sanctions against Yugoslavia on the basis of an "Executive Order" by President George Bush. The charges against Fischer are obviously absurd and ridiculous and without basis in law.

The question is whether Fischer should be shunned merely because of his political views, views which many consider to be offensive and objectionable. My answer to that question is "no".

In answer to your other question, no, there is nobody else in America who has promoted chess and who can promote chess the way that Bobby Fischer can and did. We are still Searching for another Bobby Fischer. We have never found one and probably never will.

http://www.ishipress.com/bobbybak.htm

I have studied the law in great detail and his playing a chess match with Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia in 1992 broke no law.

If that match did break the law, then all of the officers of the United States Chess Federation need to go to jail because the USCF purchased more than $500,000 worth of chess books from Yugoslavia during that time period (after receiving an "opinion of counsel" that it was all right to do so).

As far as I know, Bobby Fischer is the only person ever to have been criminally charged with violating sanctions against Yugoslavia on the basis of an "Executive Order" by President George Bush. The charges against Fischer are obviously absurd and ridiculous and without basis in law.

The question is whether Fischer should be shunned merely because of his political views, views which many consider to be offensive and objectionable. My answer to that question is "no".

In answer to your other question, no, there is nobody else in America who has promoted chess and who can promote chess the way that Bobby Fischer can and did. We are still Searching for another Bobby Fischer. We have never found one and probably never will.

http://www.ishipress.com/bobbybak.htm

The Supreme Court did not declare that executive order unconstitutional. Until they do, Bobby Fischer can be tried.

Incidently though, the Supreme Court cannot declare something unconstitutional until it is brought before them, which would inevitably mean it being used someplace, a judge ruling against it... Then going to a district court, then the Circuit Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.

Incidently though, the Supreme Court cannot declare something unconstitutional until it is brought before them, which would inevitably mean it being used someplace, a judge ruling against it... Then going to a district court, then the Circuit Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.
Well if someone were really that concerned about it, they'd bring it before a court somewhere. It happens all the time.