NationStates Jolt Archive

Ah, that infamous map that was used by the media for the two elections I clearly remember. I've decided how much I hate it. Why? Because it seems to parcels us in groups. If you live in a blue state, you're a democrat, and either a union man working in a steel mill, or some liberal elite that can do nothing except think about how much more enlightened and sophisticated they are. If you live in a red state, you're either very rich, a redneck, a cowboy, or a Christian fundementalist.
What's the problem. Here's a hint: the most infamous fundementalist, Tim McVeigh, was a blue stater. So am I. I don't think like one, however. In fact, not many in my corner of the state do. I live near Rochester, NY, which is one of the most conservative areas in New York state. We obviously aren't big enough to sway New York, but I'm just saying that we live in a blue state, but in a red area. I'm sure there are blue areas in many red states.
And btw, what about the "purple" states? Are they somewhere in between liberal snobs and Bible beaters?

Ah, that infamous map that was used by the media for the two elections I clearly remember. I've decided how much I hate it. Why? Because it seems to parcels us in groups. If you live in a blue state, you're a democrat, and either a union man working in a steel mill, or some liberal elite that can do nothing except think about how much more enlightened and sophisticated they are. If you live in a red state, you're either very rich, a redneck, a cowboy, or a Christian fundementalist.
What's the problem. Here's a hint: the most infamous fundementalist, Tim McVeigh, was a blue stater. So am I. I don't think like one, however. In fact, not many in my corner of the state do. I live near Rochester, NY, which is one of the most conservative areas in New York state. We obviously aren't big enough to sway New York, but I'm just saying that we live in a blue state, but in a red area. I'm sure there are blue areas in many red states.
And btw, what about the "purple" states? Are they somewhere in between liberal snobs and Bible beaters?
No, they are liberal snobs who moonlight as bible thumpers.

No, they are liberal snobs who moonlight as bible thumpers.
Or Bible Thumpers that moonlight as liberal snobs.

Welcome to stereotyping. Say goodbye to your innocence and ideals.

Welcome to stereotyping. Say goodbye to your innocence and ideals.
Hey, I don't mind stereotyping. It allows people to make easy associations that are probably right. However, I can still complain about it.

I still get confused because the republicans are red (as in communism) and because here the main centre left party is red and the main centre right party is blue..

I still get confused because the republicans are red (as in communism) and because here the main centre left party is red and the main centre right party is blue..
I don't know how that caught on as well. In any case, it is here to stay.
And btw, red was the symbol for more political systems than communism. It's been the official color of fascism, the Roman Empire, just to name a few.

What really amazed me was to hear the south and the midwest proudly declaring themselves Reds!

I even saw tshirts being sold that declared the owner was a member of the Red Army!

:eek:

The irony! ;)

I even saw tshirts being sold that declared the owner was a member of the Red Army!
Wait...are you serious? Or are they just mocking Republicans, like "Billionaires for Bush" does?

They are revealing their true agenda, the Republicans as the Red Army.

They are revealing their true agenda, the Republicans as the Red Army.
Oh, that is silly. I've never heard something more absurd in my life. Well, maybe I have. Oh well. In any case, as your politics are far right, you are by far more of a communist than us Republicans.

Oh, that is silly. I've never heard something more absurd in my life. Well, maybe I have. Oh well. In any case, as your politics are far right, you are by far more of a communist than us Republicans.
Republicans are communists. El Presidente Jorge Boosh has been preparing every thing for his communist police state, under which the Church will be outlawed and an evil empire will come to be.

Republicans are communists. El Presidente Jorge Boosh has been preparing every thing for his communist police state, under which the Church will be outlawed and an evil empire will come to be.
Okay then. So why don't you go into your bunker in Idaho, and stock up on all the M-16s and jeeps you can find. And while you're at it, say hi to the Aryan Nations crowd for me. Hey, perhaps you might see Jim Jones preparing an assault on Washington, or Charles Manson. Helter Skelter, baby!

Ah, that infamous map that was used by the media for the two elections I clearly remember. I've decided how much I hate it. Why? Because it seems to parcels us in groups. If you live in a blue state, you're a democrat, and either a union man working in a steel mill, or some liberal elite that can do nothing except think about how much more enlightened and sophisticated they are. If you live in a red state, you're either very rich, a redneck, a cowboy, or a Christian fundementalist.
What's the problem. Here's a hint: the most infamous fundementalist, Tim McVeigh, was a blue stater. So am I. I don't think like one, however. In fact, not many in my corner of the state do. I live near Rochester, NY, which is one of the most conservative areas in New York state. We obviously aren't big enough to sway New York, but I'm just saying that we live in a blue state, but in a red area. I'm sure there are blue areas in many red states.
And btw, what about the "purple" states? Are they somewhere in between liberal snobs and Bible beaters?

Basically, the blue states are mad because they want to spend money on things like roads and education, and the red states want to spend money on cool things like Nascar and shotguns.

;)

Basically, the blue states are mad because they want to spend money on things like roads and education, and the red states want to spend money on cool things like Nascar and shotguns.

;)
I agree with the red states more, though see absolutely no point in watching cars race around. I guess it's a southern thing.

Okay then. So why don't you go into your bunker in Idaho, and stock up on all the M-16s and jeeps you can find. And while you're at it, say hi to the Aryan Nations crowd for me. Hey, perhaps you might see Jim Jones preparing an assault on Washington, or Charles Manson. Helter Skelter, baby!
?? :confused: ??

Good to see you TT.

Good to see you TT.
See who?

See who?



Tenete Traditions, which is you. And yes, I know it's you, that Jorge Boosh and calling Republicans communist, could only come from you. Still think the sun revolves around the Earth?

?? :confused: ??
So, you're confused. Well buddy, if you want it in a nutshell, here it is: you're a kook. A rascist, anti-establishment, fundementalist kook, and probably a luddite. We had guys like you running around in the nineties, and to a certain extent, today. They are no better than the terrorists we are fighting today, and there are many parallels. I also see parallels between you, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson. So if it makes you happy, go to Idaho, and claim a mountain in some desolate forest. Live off the land, don't pay taxes, and have only whites on your land, and maybe the government won't bother you. Society sure won't bother you. After all, you are not a flower, but a Venus flytrap wishing to consume America, and everything it stands for. No sane person can live with you.

It's the electoral collage system that does the grouping. Rage against that.

So, you're confused. Well buddy, if you want it in a nutshell, here it is: you're a kook. A rascist, anti-establishment, fundementalist kook, and probably a luddite. We had guys like you running around in the nineties, and to a certain extent, today. They are no better than the terrorists we are fighting today, and there are many parallels. I also see parallels between you, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson. So if it makes you happy, go to Idaho, and claim a mountain in some desolate forest. Live off the land, don't pay taxes, and have only whites on your land, and maybe the government won't bother you. Society sure won't bother you. After all, you are not a flower, but a Venus flytrap wishing to consume America, and everything it stands for. No sane person can live with you.
I) Manson, etc. = Communist rebel

II)Idaho is a red state, no?

III) Yours is a typical smear attempt, quite similar to type employed by the Jewish media that tells us that judaizer Rush Limbaugh is "conservative."

I) Manson, etc. = Communist rebel

II)Idaho is a red state, no?

III) Yours is a typical smear attempt, quite similar to type employed by the Jewish media that tells us that judaizer Rush Limbaugh is "conservative."



Ok, jokes over, I know it's you. Everything you've said is in line with TT's beliefs, to the finest details.

Republicans are communists. El Presidente Jorge Boosh has been preparing every thing for his communist police state, under which the Church will be outlawed and an evil empire will come to be.
You wish!

It's the electoral collage system that does the grouping. Rage against that.
Though it's influential, the media is a larger part of it. The media always has more power over people's perceptions than anything else in any society.

I) Manson, etc. = Communist rebel

II)Idaho is a red state, no?

III) Yours is a typical smear attempt, quite similar to type employed by the Jewish media that tells us that judaizer Rush Limbaugh is "conservative."
It is, leave no doubt about that. However, what I am telling you is that you have an obsolete thought process. Society has moved on without you. You're using this whole Jewish business as a front for something else. You don't have to tell us what that is, or even let down the masquerade. However, I want you to bear that in mind, and decipher what it could be. As Freud might say, perhaps you had a bad experience with a Jew in your childhood, and that bitterness has manifested into racsism.

Ok, jokes over, I know it's you. Everything you've said is in line with TT's beliefs, to the finest details.
The sacred words of Saint Paul...

itaque fratres state et tenete traditiones quas didicistis sive per sermonem sive per epistulam nostram --II Ad Thessalonicenses iiXV

... do not equate with "TT." It is an Audi model though.

The sacred words of Saint Paul...

itaque fratres state et tenete traditiones quas didicistis sive per sermonem sive per epistulam nostram --II Ad Thessalonicenses iiXV

... do not equate with "TT." It is an Audi model though.




Yep, it's definatly you.

It is, leave no doubt about that. However, what I am telling you is that you have an obsolete thought process. Society has moved on without you. You're using this whole Jewish business as a front for something else. You don't have to tell us what that is, or even let down the masquerade. However, I want you to bear that in mind, and decipher what it could be. As Freud might say, perhaps you had a bad experience with a Jew in your childhood, and that bitterness has manifested into racsism.
A "modern-day" Jewish pervert is a model for your thought process?
You don't even try to hide it anymore... or is it you just don't realize it?

A "modern-day" Jewish pervert is a model for your thought process?
You don't even try to hide it anymore... or is it you just don't realize it?



It's you who doesn't realize you are paranoid. Jews are not satan, get over it.

It's you who doesn't realize you are paranoid. Jews are not satan, get over it.
They did kill Him and continue to blaspheme horrendously against Him and His Church.

A "modern-day" Jewish pervert is a model for your thought process?
You don't even try to hide it anymore... or is it you just don't realize it?
I'm not Jewish, if that's what you're getting at. Wishing to convert Jews is completely your business, and I respect that. I also harbor the same goal. However, singleling them as the pincushion of your ire raises many problems. Update yourself. Step into the twenty-first century, not the first one. And could you do me a favor? Stop using Latin. It's the evilest language of all, as it is the language of those who murdered my Lord and Savior.

They did kill Him and continue to blaspheme horrendously against Him and His Church.



What was Jesus then? A Brit? And do you know what Paul was? A JEW! He converted to Christianity but he was Jewish.

I'm not Jewish, if that's what you're getting at. Wishing to convert Jews is completely your business, and I respect that. I also harbor the same goal. However, singleling them as the pincushion of your ire raises many problems. Update yourself. Step into the twenty-first century, not the first one. And could you do me a favor? Stop using Latin. It's the evilest language of all, as it is the language of those who murdered my Lord and Savior.
Who is your "Lord and Savior?" Freud?

Who is your "Lord and Savior?" Freud?
Same as yours. And I was just referencing Freud. Do you happen to have a problem with him, by any chance?

Same as yours. And I was just referencing Freud. Do you happen to have a problem with him, by any chance?
I) Freud is a Jew, and Christ-hater.
II) My Lord is Iesus Christ, who was killed by Jews who did not particularly speak Latin.

I) Freud is a Jew, and Christ-hater.
II) My Lord is Iesus Christ, who was killed by Jews who did not particularly speak Latin.



Pontius Pilate did though and he was the one who allowed the crucifixion to happen.

... do not equate with "TT." It is an Audi model though.


Quite extraordinary coincidence that you share the same national animal and currency, eh?

"Tenete Traditiones II's national animal is the lamb, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the pecunia."

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=tenete%20traditiones%20ii

"Defensor Fidei's national animal is the agnus and its currency is the pecunia."

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=defensor_fidei

IIRC the national animal and currency of the original Tenete Traditiones were also the lamb and the pecunia, possibly the grace... but I may just be getting confused with Jemell.

" Jemell's national animal is the lamb , which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the grace."

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=jemell

Quite extraordinary coincidence that you share the same national animal and currency, eh?

"Tenete Traditiones II's national animal is the lamb, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the pecunia."

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=tenete%20traditiones%20ii

"Defensor Fidei's national animal is the agnus and its currency is the pecunia."

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=defensor_fidei

IIRC the national animal and currency of the original Tenete Traditiones were also the lamb and the pecunia, possibly the grace... but I may just be getting confused with Jemell.

" Jemell's national animal is the lamb , which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the grace."

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=jemell
As whom?
What does this have to do with "TT?"

II) My Lord is Iesus Christ, who was killed by Jews who did not particularly speak Latin.

No, Romans, who did speak Latin.

Pontius Pilate did though and he was the one who allowed the crucifixion to happen.
He had no control over the situation. The Jews did.

I) Freud is a Jew, and Christ-hater.
II) My Lord is Iesus Christ, who was killed by Jews who did not particularly speak Latin.
You need to calm down. Stop reciting a language that is dead, or going on stylized witch hunting. If you can't, start a militia and move to Idaho. There are lots like you there. If you happen to march onto Washington in fifty years, kill me. I'm not a purebred Anglo-Saxon, or German, or Nordic or anything close to Germanic. Make me a slave if that better suits you. But until then, please move to Idaho. You'll love it there.

No, Romans, who did speak Latin.
Yes, but it was the Jews who killed Iesus.

As whom?
What does this have to do with "TT?"

"TT" as in "Tenete Traditiones", your old nation.

You need to calm down. Stop reciting a language that is dead, or going on stylized witch hunting. If you can't, start a militia and move to Idaho. There are lots like you there. If you happen to march onto Washington in fifty years, kill me. I'm not a purebred Anglo-Saxon, or German, or Nordic or anything close to Germanic. Make me a slave if that better suits you. But until then, please move to Idaho. You'll love it there.
I) Idaho is Red.
II) Latin is alive as the universal language of the Holy Church.

"TT" as in "Tenete Traditiones", your old nation.
Et? (Here comes Anthrus' repetitious attack on the "dead language...)

He had no control over the situation. The Jews did.


Funny he was the Governor of that area and the Romans had control of it and had a military presence that could destroy any uprising. If he didn't want Jesus to die, he could have stopped it.

I) Idaho is Red.
II) Latin is alive as the universal language of the Holy Church.
I. Idaho has very few people living in it. They have very loose gun laws, and every eccentric has moved out into their extremely desolate forests. Why not you?
II.) The Catholic Church stopped the use of Latin back in the sixties.

Yes, but it was the Jews who killed Iesus.

No, he was nailed to a cross (a particularly Roman method of execution - the Jews would have more likely have stoned him to death), by Roman soldiers.

I. Idaho has very few people living in it. They have very loose gun laws, and every eccentric has moved out into their extremely desolate forests. Why not you?
II.) The Catholic Church stopped the use of Latin back in the sixties.
I) Umm... No
II) Umm... No

No, he was nailed to a cross (a particularly Roman method of execution - the Jews would have more likely have stoned him to death), by Roman soldiers.
This is the modern heretical "rationalization" by the Jews. It violates the Church doctrines and historical documents on the matter.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know most certainly, that God hath made both Lord and Christ, this same Jesus, whom ye have crucified.
--Actus Apostolorum iiXXXVI

Funny, Stephen was stoned to death for preaching the word of Christ, so why not Jesus? Because the Romans nailed him to the cross. Romans = Crucifixion
Jews = Stoning.

I) Umm... No
II) Umm... No
So you want to stay put, annoy the hell out of us, and spew out more psuedo-politics? Well then, allow me to give you a secret. Tommarow, China and Japan will team up to invade the US. During this "yellow peril", Sumner Redstone, Joe Liberman, and others will team up with Ariel Sharon to create a worldwide Zionist government, where they will kill off all non Jews. As distant from reality as that is, you probably think that something similar is inevitable, and I do pity you.
Also, you seem to be at a much slower pace than the Catholic Church. Let me ask you two questions, then. Who is the pope? Is he legitamite?

So you want to stay put, annoy the hell out of us, and spew out more psuedo-politics?
I told you that Defensor Fidei gets on one's nerves very quickly. You said I was flaming...

Funny, Stephen was stoned to death for preaching the word of Christ, so why not Jesus? Because the Romans nailed him to the cross. Romans = Crucifixion
Jews = Stoning.
And how does the affect the fact that the Jews killed Christ?

And how does the affect the fact that the Jews killed Christ?



If Jesus were killed by the Jews, he would have been stoned to death. He was crucified and that was a Roman form of execution.

I told you that Defensor Fidei gets on one's nerves very quickly. You said I was flaming...
You were.

If Jesus were killed by the Jews, he would have been stoned to death. He was crucified and that was a Roman form of execution.
The Jews use many methods, including parasitism.

How many threads must you hijack, Nazi?

The Jews use many methods, including parasitism.

In any topic, you turn something into the Jews and Jesus. This is pretty entertaining. Okay, here's a topic for you...

Ricky Martin: Good or Bad?

Oh wait, I forgot, the evil Jews inhabited his body and gave him terrible singing ability and tacky clothing.

They did kill Him and continue to blaspheme horrendously against Him and His Church.
I'm disgusted that bigots like you are even in the same world as me, let alone the same religion. Thank God we have a Pope who knows what's what when it comes to the Jewish people, and how they aren't evil.

The Jews use many methods, including parasitism.
You mean like tick or leech parasitism, or draining-resources-from-society parasitism?

You were.
Yes, I was, but I felt it was justified. I've already argued with him at length, and all he does is change the topic from occasional intelligent discourse to merely nonsensical "shouting". I was trying to nip that problem in the bud, but it obviously didn't work.

I'm disgusted that bigots like you are even in the same world as me, let alone the same religion. Thank God we have a Pope who knows what's what when it comes to the Jewish people, and how they aren't evil.
The Church stands strong against the wretched Jew.

I'm disgusted that bigots like you are even in the same world as me, let alone the same religion. Thank God we have a Pope who knows what's what when it comes to the Jewish people, and how they aren't evil.
I concur. This guy is as good to the Catholic faith as Timothy McVeigh, or Cornelius Horan (that guy in the kilt that tripped the marathon runner in Athens).

What really amazed me was to hear the south and the midwest proudly declaring themselves Reds!

I even saw tshirts being sold that declared the owner was a member of the Red Army!

:eek:

The irony! ;)
I don't know if anyone has said this so far, but the Red Army shirts have been around for awhile. They come from this site: http://www.redvsblue.com
The picture that most people have seen is a Red vs Blue fan holding the shirt and Bush giving the thumbs up to it.

The Church stands strong against the wretched Jew.

Once again, through myself, the Church, in the words of the well-known declaration Nostra Aetate, "deplores the hatred, persecutions and displays of anti-Semitism directed against the Jews at any time and by anyone." I repeat, "By anyone."
Pope John Paul II

The Church stands strong against the wretched Jew.




The Church should worry about the biggots inside it and not other religions, if this is the way you believe the Catholic Church is.

I concur. This guy is as good to the Catholic faith as Timothy McVeigh, or Cornelius Horan (that guy in the kilt that tripped the marathon runner in Athens).
*SIGH* There's always a nut everywhere. Man, why didn't he just stay off? I thought TT got IP-banned...

Yes, I was, but I felt it was justified. I've already argued with him at length, and all he does is change the topic from occasional intelligent discourse to merely nonsensical "shouting". I was trying to nip that problem in the bud, but it obviously didn't work.
Well okay. You're right, though, that this guy can't cool himself down. I'm convinced that he's not really a bigot, but is really an extremely smart and bored guy. Maybe he's out of work, and this keeps him from subsisting on soap operas and reruns.

Lemme use this statement from an old thread, DF:

Hitler was a Nazi. You are a Nazi. Hilter killed himself. Complete the logic loop

The Church should worry about the biggots inside it and not other religions, if this is the way you believe the Catholic Church is.
We tend to worry about both, including kooks like this one. Believe me. As acting non-insane Catholic for this thread, I hearby declare this man criminally insane and fit for excommunication! :P

Once again, through myself, the Church, in the words of the well-known declaration Nostra Aetate, "deplores the hatred, persecutions and displays of anti-Semitism directed against the Jews at any time and by anyone." I repeat, "By anyone."
Pope John Paul II
More from the Jewish-Novus Ordo document Nostra Aetate:
"...Sounding the depths of the mystery which is the church, this Council remembers the spiritual ties which link the people of the New Covenant to Satan."

The Church still stands strong against the wretched Jew...

More from the Jewish-Novus Ordo document Nostra Aetate:
"...Sounding the depths of the mystery which is the church, this Council remembers the spiritual ties which link the people of the New Covenant to Satan."

The Church still stands strong against the wretched Jew...
"Religion is the opiate of the masses" - and you are high

More from the Jewish-Novus Ordo document Nostra Aetate:
"...Sounding the depths of the mystery which is the church, this Council remembers the spiritual ties which link the people of the New Covenant to Satan."

The Church still stands strong against the wretched Jew...

So the Pope was wrong?

Lemme use this statement from an old thread, DF:

Hitler was a Nazi. You are a Nazi. Hilter killed himself. Complete the logic loop
Hitler was a pseudonym for Mein Kampf.

Lemme use this statement from an old thread, DF:

Hitler was a Nazi. You are a Nazi. Hilter killed himself. Complete the logic loop
You forgot a premise: Hitler killed himself because he was a Nazi.

So the Pope was wrong?
Which pope?

We tend to worry about both, including kooks like this one. Believe me. As acting non-insane Catholic for this thread, I hearby declare this man criminally insane and fit for excommunication!
Oh, but we can't excommunicate him. I didn't even know the Church still did that. Anyhow, we need to try and help him, first. Excommunicating him would convince him that there is a holy war going on, and he might turn dangerous.

Well okay. You're right, though, that this guy can't cool himself down. I'm convinced that he's not really a bigot, but is really an extremely smart and bored guy. Maybe he's out of work, and this keeps him from subsisting on soap operas and reruns.
I'm pretty much convinced of that too. It doesn't help the actual effects of his posting much, however.

We tend to worry about both, including kooks like this one. Believe me. As acting non-insane Catholic for this thread, I hearby declare this man criminally insane and fit for excommunication! :P



I have nothing against Catholics, several of my friends are catholic. What I am opposed to is biggotry, which I already have to deal with in Protestant Chruchs, so it annoys me to see it else where as well.

Which pope?

John Paul II- THE ONE QUOTED IN MY PREVIOUS POST WHICH YOU SAID WAS UNTRUE.

Oh, but we can't excommunicate him. I didn't even know the Church still did that. Anyhow, we need to try and help him, first. Excommunicating him would convince him that there is a holy war going on, and he might turn dangerous.
You would all be excommunicated, had you ever been part of the Ecclesia Dei.

I have nothing against Catholics, several of my friends are catholic. What I am opposed to is biggotry, which I already have to deal with in Protestant Chruchs, so it annoys me to see it else where as well.
It's everywhere, in every religion. No one can escape it. But at least our society is good at eradicating it, leaving just these isolated kooks.

John Paul II- THE ONE QUOTED IN MY PREVIOUS POST WHICH YOU SAID WAS UNTRUE.
John Paul II? :confused: Hmm.. Don't remember him in the Chair of St. Peter...

John Paul II- THE ONE QUOTED IN MY PREVIOUS POST WHICH YOU SAID WAS UNTRUE.
Calm down. I'm willing to bet this is one of the one's that denies the authority of JPII, and recognises one of the two Anti-Popes.

EDIT:
John Paul II? Hmm.. Don't remember him in the Chair of St. Peter...
Yep. I was right. He's a true fool of a Took.

It's everywhere, in every religion. No one can escape it. But at least our society is good at eradicating it, leaving just these isolated kooks.
All faithful Catholics are the same as myself, in accordance with the Church.

You would all be excommunicated, had you ever been part of the Ecclesia Dei.
If we are, then fine. God can send me to Hell, and I'll take comfort in the fact that it was His will. My soul is of no concern to you.

John Paul II? :confused: Hmm.. Don't remember him in the Chair of St. Peter...

Look. He's the Pope. You say he's wrong.

You've contradicted yourself. Admit it.

John Paul II? :confused: Hmm.. Don't remember him in the Chair of St. Peter...
So you're part of a separatist faction in the Catholic Church? You guys are pre-Vatican II, aren't you?

Look. He's the Pope. You say he's wrong.

You've contradicted yourself. Admit it.
I never said a Pope of the Catholic Church was wrong in this thread.

Calm down. I'm willing to bet this is one of the one's that denies the authority of JPII, and recognises one of the two Anti-Popes.

There's such thing as an anti-pope?

*children of the corn music plays, while Damion's eyes rage fire*

All faithful Catholics are the same as myself, in accordance with the Church.



Wow, that statement reeks of ignorance. NOT EVERYONE THINKS LIKE YOU BUDY! GOD GAVE US FREE WILL, LET US THINK FOR OURSELVES, NOT ALL THINK LIKE DEFENSOR FIDEI.

So you're part of a separatist faction in the Catholic Church? You guys are pre-Vatican II, aren't you?
No, the real Catholic Church, not "separatist."

"Religion is the opiate of the masses" - and you are high
Hear, hear! On both points! That's Huxley if I remember correctly, is it not?

You forgot a premise: Hitler killed himself because he was a Nazi.
To be fair, Hitler didn't kill himself because he was a Nazi...

and recognises one of the two Anti-Popes.
I swear, I wanted to make one of those so badly when I was playing Medieval: Total War. That would've been so awesome... Go Anti-Popes!

If I had the time and the lighter fluid, I'd personally burn every red/blue map in the world. The people who believe the rhetoric of the "divided country" are the very people who are responsible for making things worse.

Wow, that statement reeks of ignorance. NOT EVERYONE THINKS LIKE YOU BUDY! GOD GAVE US FREE WILL, LET US THINK FOR OURSELVES, NOT ALL THINK LIKE DEFENSOR FIDEI.
Free will leads to sin, not to differing thought processes, which the Church guides us all through.

There's such thing as an anti-pope?

*children of the corn music plays, while Damion's eyes rage fire*
Yeah, there is. There were many during the Middle Ages, and at the current moment there's two. But only really messed up people like this one follow them.

No, the real Catholic Church, not "separatist."
Let me phrase it this way: is Pope John Paul II an antipope?

Free will leads to sin, not to differing thought processes, which the Church guides us all through.



If free will leads to sin and God is sinless, why did he give it to us?

There's such thing as an anti-pope?
Orcae ita! Hells yeah!

I swear, I wanted to make one of those so badly when I was playing Medieval: Total War. That would've been so awesome... Go Anti-Popes!
Yeah, I always had a puppet Pope on the throne ;) But in all seriousness, these guys are really starting to get on my nerves - this one being a prime example of why.

If free will leads to sin and God is sinless, why did he give it to us?
Ohhh, DF got pwned!

Hitler was a pseudonym for Mein Kampf.
Really? I could have sworn Hitler was Adolf Hitler. Fuhrer of the Third Reich, slaughterer of millions. And yes, author of Mein Kampf. But he wrote it as Hitler. Sounds like a pretty shitty pseudonym to me. I mean, it's his friggin name! A real pseudonym for Hitler would have gone something like "Mein Kampf, by David Ben-Gurion." That would be creative.

If free will leads to sin and God is sinless, why did he give it to us?
Or maybe He didn't :P But that's a completely different philosophical debate I'm not willing to get into.

No, the real Catholic Church, not "separatist."

So, wait, are you the guys that whip each other with leather and chains and then do gregorian chanting?

So, wait, are you the guys that whip each other with leather and chains and then do gregorian chanting?
Hehe. I wouldn't put it past them.

I think it's high time that we stop using the electoral college. We have reached the point where actual democracy can be carried out smoothly, and no longer need people to cast presidential votes for us. It would do away with all the "red america, blue america" bullsh1t and might actually allow third parties to have a shot at challenging the republicrats

He had no control over the situation. The Jews did.
All Jews did?

So, wait, are you the guys that whip each other with leather and chains and then do gregorian chanting?
I think that's the Opus Dei or some such thing. It was some Latin phrase with the word for god in it, it's just been a while since I learned about them. But they're the ones with the self-flagellation, I believe.

Or maybe He didn't :P But that's a completely different philosophical debate I'm not willing to get into.
Too existential for you, is it? Or are you just too tired?

Why does everyone insist on labeling states? If you look at the district returns maps, the divide is clearly between the city mice and the country mice. And in this regard, we are two different nations. I think the "we need to pull together and get beyond these divisive politics" stand thoroughly misses the point. What urban areas need and what rural areas need are not the same thing. We do not need to pull together, because the country mice get pissed off when city mice get control of the government and use federal money to build gay bath houses in the country. Likewise, the city mice get pissed when the country mice get control and they use federal money to build dirt tracks in the cities so NASCAR mice can make three-hour left turns.

The state is the break point because that's where laws get made, but even with this, upstate mice get pissed at what Manhattan mice impose on them and Austin mice get pissed at what Plano mice impose on them.

We either have to address this (changing the federal-state power model into a state-city power model) or we have to be willing to accept the fact that 49% of the population is going to be pissed at 51% of the population indefinitely.