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What can I say?


Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

And the world goes "Hmmm? Meh." and just keeps on turning.

*shoves fingers in ears* I can't hear you Colodia!

*shoves fingers in ears* I can't hear you Colodia!
Can you hear that? It's the sound of rightouous justice!

Nintendo is killing themselves, only have themselves to blame.

Sony is still far ahead in the lead of the console wars because...

Microsoft is having trouble selling to foreigners

GameCube is having trouble selling to anyone over the age of 12 who doesn't live in japan

Sony has so many better games, a much larger fanbase, and they have been delivering for years. Nintendo's on the downslide...and their ideas are too weird. (DS? Touch screen thing? What the hell?) Microsoft is just a cash cow that's shit outside of America and perhaps England. Not too many japanese folk buy the system.

Hozzah! A fanboy war!

Hozzah! A fanboy war!

Damn right ;)

No, actually I'm just basing my post off sales. It's basic facts that show Sony's dominance. That's much more than even my opinions.

I think the DS is a better machine than the PSP,

It all really depends on taste. I have an Gamecube and an XBOX, I hardly ever use my gamecube but I'm always using my XBOX, or G5 tower for gaming.

PS2 is an old pile of shit.

PS2 is an old pile of shit.
:upyours:

I think the DS is a better machine than the PSP,

It all really depends on taste. I have an Gamecube and an XBOX, I hardly ever use my gamecube but I'm always using my XBOX, or G5 tower for gaming.

PS2 is an old pile of shit.
Then you sir, have terrible taste.

Sony is still far ahead in the lead of the console wars because...

Microsoft is having trouble selling to foreigners

GameCube is having trouble selling to anyone over the age of 12 who doesn't live in japan

Sony has so many better games, a much larger fanbase, and they have been delivering for years. Nintendo's on the downslide...and their ideas are too weird. (DS? Touch screen thing? What the hell?) Microsoft is just a cash cow that's shit outside of America and perhaps England. Not too many japanese folk buy the system.
That's the word I've been searching for since I first heard of the DS!

WEIRD!


and yeah...touch-screen....wtf? Do they really think a touch-screen can endure the banging of a 5 yr. old playing Pokemon with sticky fingers?

And if we really need to use economics and indirect patterns to show who will win the handheld war in the U.S., here's the answer:

PSP


Why?

When the GC and Xbox came out, the Xbox struggled at first. But then people realized it's technological superiority over the GC. People began buying it and soon it rivaled the PS2 itself. The GC, with its inferior mini-disk technology, lagged behind the PS2 and the Xbox to this very day.

We can tell the same story about the PSP/DS

When the PSP and DS came out, the PSP stuggled at first. But then people realized it's technological superiority over the DS. People began buying it and soon it dominated the handheld empire. The DS, with its inferior cartridge and tiny-screen technology, lagged behind the PSP to this very day.

Personally, the PS2 > Xbox from a game-quality perspective. With exclusive titles like GTA:SA, MGS3, FFXII, Kingdom Hearts, etc. etc....you can't go wrong. Yeah, the Xbox has all its fancy crap. But it doesn't matter when it's supported by crappy games!

and yeah...touch-screen....wtf? Do they really think a touch-screen can endure the banging of a 5 yr. old playing Pokemon with sticky fingers?

That would be the core of Nentendo's handheld market.

That would be the core of Nentendo's handheld market.
but it's not a bad market to hang on to. They know how much these spoiled kids cry to their mothers to get them their beloved Nintendo junk. The parents get fed up and buy em whatever they want to shut em up.

Then the DS breaks after 4 months of torture and the parent goes "WTF?!?!?!?!?!"

True. Look at the GC, $99 and a distance third in the counlce race in the US and Europe. Second in Japan.

The Nintendo Revolution comes out next year, one year ahead of the PS3 and the X-Box 2.

True. Look at the GC, $99 and a distance third in the counlce race in the US and Europe. Second in Japan.

The Nintendo Revolution comes out next year, one year ahead of the PS3 and the X-Box 2.
wow, link? I just barely heard about this from you.

I got this from E3 this year.

I got this from E3 this year.
hmm....must've been too old or too covered up for me to remember then. I think I do remember barely something about a new Nintendo system coming out....but it probably was overlooked with all the PSP and DS info.

It was overlooked because of the two new handhelds that were all the hype at this years E3.

I just thought this was worthwhile to post here since we're talking about the PSP vs. DS.

Slashdot.org Tuesday December 14, 1:08 PM

Among many to report on this issue, OneHungLo writes:

"GamesAreFun.com
is reporting that several defective PSP units have been shipped,
suffering from problems such as dead pixels, broken UMD drives, air
bubbles in the screens, dust in the screens, and the analog "nubs" not
working, or actually falling off. They also have a video of a UMD
popping out of the PSP as it's running, due to the unit being
twisted/turned. I wonder how long it will be until Sony issues an
official statement about this?"

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4010


http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/pspdefect1.mov

Better video of it:

UMD Pop Out- http://www.yuko2ch.net/psp/psp_vs_nds.avi

Let's hope they fix these problems like they did with the PS2 when it came... to the... US... Hmm...

I just thought this was worthwhile to post here since we're talking about the PSP vs. DS.
Now that the Nintendo DS is now ready for purchase, many new owners have reported the dreaded "dead pixel" syndrome on their system. So far, only a small percentage of Nintendo DS owners on our message boards have reported the problem.


"Dead pixel" is an LCD screen defect where one dot on the LCD screen remains a single color no matter what's happening on the screen. It's a distracting flaw that occurs in the LCD technology, and anything from LCD televisions to laptops, Game Gears to Game Boys have fallen victim to the dead pixel. And unless Sony's upcoming handheld is forged by the hand of God Himself, the PSP will encounter the problem in its life-cycle as well. It's a tough defect to track during the manufacturing process, so problem screens will occasionally slip through and end up in final consumer product.
Nintendo has offered an official statement via customer support emails to readers that have inquired about the "Dead Pixel" issue.

"With a small number of Nintendo DS screens, one or two dots on the screen may appear to be "stuck" on a particular color, such as white or red. This effect is caused when a particular pixel (the dots that make up the screen) is not working properly, even with the high quality standards set by LCD manufacturers. You will find this situation is common in many LCD devices, (PC monitors, televisions, cell phones, etc.).
It's important to understand that this issue will remain limited to the pixels you have already noticed. The problem will not get any worse and you should not expect to see the problem in any other areas of the screen.



DS had similar problems too. The PSP's are also under warrenty. So it's not like they're screwed.

About the breakage factor for the DS...

Can you say... continual income?

"But moooom, I have TWELVE GAMES for the DS, if you don't get me a third one now that both of the first two have broken, you've wasted all that money!"

About the breakage factor for the DS...

Can you say... continual income?

"But moooom, I have TWELVE GAMES for the DS, if you don't get me a third one now that both of the first two have broken, you've wasted all that money!"
That's why little Johnny is never going to go to college, but is going to spend his life as a drunk. Well done Nintendo...well done...

Cole, did you even read the article?

I'm more worried about what happens when they have DS hentai games. *shudders*

Cole, did you even read the article?
Yes, and double read it. Seems like a typical case of a few buggy ones here and there and someone trying to make a big deal out of it.

If there was actually a massive problem, then we all would've heard about it and have given up on the PSP by now.

Um, you are aware that the Gamecube and Gameboy Advance have linked together long before this. For example, Metroid Prime (GCN)can be connected to Metroid: Zero Mission (GBA) and a map and other information can be displayed on the GBA while playing Metroid Prime. It also comes with a free SNES version of Metroid which can be played when the systems are connected. Connecting system-to-handheld is old technology now.

Congratulations! Your topic name is incorrect. What do you mean, it's got 'nothing'? In case you haven't, you know, been paying attention other than to anything supporting the PS2 for the last few years, the GameCube has been doing this for a while now.

Also, I notice how you manage to blow off any reported problems with the PSP yet say that the DS's touch-screen issue is going to make it sink. Biased much, sir?

Mind you, I know I'm biased towards Nintendo, and I'll admit that right up front. Why? Because the GameCube and the GBA (and the DS, from the way things are shaping up) have the games I want to play, and the GC has far better hotseat multiplayer. If I want to play things online, I'll go buy the things for the PC.

I don't see any reason to assume that the DS is going to suck given Nintendo's proven track record with handhelds and Sony's not-so-well proven track record. If anyone, Sony is the UNDERDOG in that ring...

I'm more worried about what happens when they have DS hentai games. *shudders*

If the DS gets hentai games I would buy it then. That would be the only way.

First off, bear in mind, I am a rather staunch supporter of Nintendo. Primarily because of the fact that PS2 is kinda outdated and because, unlike an XBox, my little purple cube doesn't crash on a regular basis. That, and because they were the original, as far as 8-bit systems go. And because they're the closest to the now-defunct Sega empire. Damn you, Dreamcast!

Anyway, while Nintendo is kinda shooting itself in the foot for completely alientating most companies (I mean, God. They hate Rare. Too bad two of the SNES' best-selling games, Killer Instinct and Donkey Kong Country, were technically GTA's uncles) and making colorful hand gestures at such notions as "third-party support" and "cross-platform market," they're juggernauts, and they turn out quality products. Generally. The games they have on GC almost always make of for the games they don't. And let's not forget the franchises Nintendo has set up. Mario. Metroid. Link. Final goddamn Fantasy.

However, as far as a DS goes, I'm not gonna get one. Not now, likely not ever. Know why? Because I remember the last time Nintendo made a system with two screens. In fact, I still own one. And play it occasionally. Especially when I've done something naughty and deserve to be punished. Anybody else who's owned one of the sons of bitches would avoid the DS like the touch-screen plague it is.

The GC is ALOT more powerful than the PS2.
And the XBOX is the most powerful console.
Whats wrong with mini discs? 1.5gb most games fit just fine in there.

Whats wrong with my Mac?

Then you sir, have terrible taste.
How is a G5 horrible?
And my XBOX has better games than a PS2

Congratulations! Your topic name is incorrect. What do you mean, it's got 'nothing'? In case you haven't, you know, been paying attention other than to anything supporting the PS2 for the last few years, the GameCube has been doing this for a while now.
*sigh*

You don't get out much do you?


Well I clap for your efforts. But they are in vain. You see, I obviously took the rest of your post out so I don't bother reading it twice and quoting stuff that doesn't need to be quoted.
Put simply, No.

And my XBOX has better games than a PS2
Your Xbox? I don't see how your Xbox differs from everyone else's Xbox....and everyone else's Xbox has crappier games. Mind you, there are some good games in the Xbox mix. But nothing like the PS2.

The GC is ALOT more powerful than the PS2.
And the XBOX is the most powerful console.
Whats wrong with mini discs? 1.5gb most games fit just fine in there.

Whats wrong with my Mac?
No one cares about power so long as the games are good. Why do you think Microsoft dies a little everytime an Xbox is sold?

Your Xbox? I don't see how your Xbox differs from everyone else's Xbox....and everyone else's Xbox has crappier games. Mind you, there are some good games in the Xbox mix. But nothing like the PS2.
Only thing the PS2 has is Metal Gear Solid and FF, which FF sucks anyway,
The XBOX has better games, besides Shitty framerates piss me off.
And my XBOX has been overclocked to 900mhz, so it is a bit different.

Only thing the PS2 has is Metal Gear Solid and FF, which FF sucks anyway,
The XBOX has better games, besides Shitty framerates piss me off.
And my XBOX has been overclocked to 900mhz, so it is a bit different.
I think I figured out the reason why Microsoft dies a little on the inside everytime someone buys an Xbox.

I'm a fan of FPS games.
XBOX has HALO and HALO 2, and they are getting DOOMIII,
and I think the XBOX has alot better racing games.

I'm a fan of FPS games.
XBOX has HALO and HALO 2, and they are getting DOOMIII,
and I think the XBOX has alot better racing games.
Halo, yay...played the demo on the PC
Halo 2, not so yay....all too many friends said they were disappointed...even gamespot.com said so too

And I don't like racing games at all. RPG's, FPS', and Action games for me.

Playing a game on a Console and PC are 2 very different things.
Halo 2 was still a great game, even though the storyline wasn't as good and it pissed me off at the end.
The multiplayer over system link and XBOX live, is FLAWLESS. The multiplayer alone would give the game a 9.
As I pointed out XBOX is getting DOOM III, one of the greastest FPS to date is comming out on the XBOX. Yes I know it's for PC but if you have a 64mb video card and a CPU under 2.6ghz, your;ll be begging for the XBOX version, which buy the way will never come out on PS2.

The Xbox is a better machine with better games, imo.

Halo, yay...played the demo on the PC
Halo 2, not so yay....all too many friends said they were disappointed...even gamespot.com said so too

And I don't like racing games at all. RPG's, FPS', and Action games for me.

As a regular on the GS boards I would have to say you can't trust much of the General Public on there. Using them as an arguement to bash a game doesn't mean anything as they whine for the sake of whining CONSTANTLY.

That said, I like all three (GCN, XBOX, PS2) for there respective exclusive games. I play XBOX a lot more because they have a great online system and I only want to pay for one setup. Whoever said box's crash all the time, obviously you have never owned a PS2, because I think I've had to take mine apart at least four or five times since I baught it.

As for portables, I haven't played DS, but it plays A LOT of good games. I don't know all the launch titles for PSP but I'm sure there'll be some good ones in there as well. It's all a matter of game preferance as the screen quality/graphics were never too much of an issue for me, I played monopoly all the time on my brick back in the day, still do on road trips.

As a regular on the GS boards I would have to say you can't trust much of the General Public on there. Using them as an arguement to bash a game doesn't mean anything as they whine for the sake of whining CONSTANTLY.
I didn't mean the GS boards, I actually meant the Gamespot.com news article itself. It was some kinda awards thingie. Just something used to back me up, nothing major.

Whoever said box's crash all the time, obviously you have never owned a PS2, because I think I've had to take mine apart at least four or five times since I baught it.
2 and a half years and not a single mess up. It's not a lot compared to some people, but I mean really...just treat the system good and it'll treat you good.[/QUOTE]

Correct me if I'm wrong but can the DS play GBA games? I heard it can, that would be so awsome, that means you already have a libary of 400+ games.

I love my XBOX, and XBOX live, I'm up into the wee hours of the night playing it, I can bring a guest to w00t.

My solution is rather simple.

I haven't seen a lot of GC games I really like. I haven't seen a lot of Xbox games I really like (though Xbox 2 will be pushing it with a new Perfect Dark). I enjoy my RPGs, so I have a PS2.

I have no worries about hand held consuls. Know why?

Because of the wonderous joys of emulation, that's why.

Yes, the DS can play GBA games, but not regular GB or GBC games like the GBA can.

My solution is rather simple.

I haven't seen a lot of GC games I really like. I haven't seen a lot of Xbox games I really like (though Xbox 2 will be pushing it with a new Perfect Dark). I enjoy my RPGs, so I have a PS2.

I have no worries about hand held consuls. Know why?

Because of the wonderous joys of emulation, that's why.
And then CD's came and ruined emulation for good. That's another reason why I don't want the DS, I know an emulator is coming in perhaps a year or so.

Correct me if I'm wrong but can the DS play GBA games? I heard it can, that would be so awsome, that means you already have a libary of 400+ games.

I love my XBOX, and XBOX live, I'm up into the wee hours of the night playing it, I can bring a guest to w00t.
It can, but seriously...I have a GBA. Why do I need to play my games on a DS?

As a nintendo fan, I personally think XBOX is the best system. Excluding its monstrous size, I have seen no drawbacks. My issues with playstation are that it lags, the controllers suck, and it can't handle it's own games.

My only issue with gamecube is a lack of games. Nintendo has basically told most 3rd party creators to go f*ck off, so there aren't anywhere near as many games. However, the quality of the games they have(Bond...nuff said) is much better than any other system.

As for the DS, I played it, and I absolutely loved it. I loved the 2 screens and the controls. The graphics were very impressive for a cartridge.

I never played the PSP because I got sick and tired of waiting for stuff to load. The loading time was absurd. I waited 15 seconds for the game to load. Then after starting the game, the level took another 20 seconds to load. Granted, my patience was tested by annoying 10 year olds who were tugging at my shirt the second I got there, but when it takes a minute just to start a damn game, it's not worth it. Espeically considering the point of a handheld is to play it on the go, such as what I use my GBA for, playing on my way to and from classes.

Jesus, if 40 seconds of your life are so dear, then why are you wasting them right here?

And then CD's came and ruined emulation for good. That's another reason why I don't want the DS, I know an emulator is coming in perhaps a year or so.

Bingo. I laughed at a few of my friends who bought it, for the same reason I laughed when they bought a GBA. Speaking of the GBA, it's rediculous how easy it is to find any game you want online. Almost as easy as the SNES.



But nothing beats the SNES for emulation :p

Bingo. I laughed at a few of my friends who bought it, for the same reason I laughed when they bought a GBA. Speaking of the GBA, it's rediculous how easy it is to find any game you want online. Almost as easy as the SNES.



But nothing beats the SNES for emulation :p

Well I always enjoy buying GBA games, after I emulate em of course. It's a lot funner (and easier) to play on that little screen during the car ride then to sit in front of the computer. I really gotta download a Cartoon Network movie and see how it fares on my flatscreen monitor.

BTW, how do you figure they'll work out how to use the touchscreen? I figured they can use two directional pads (W,A,S,D for touchscreen and Up, Right, Left, Down for D-pad) and take it from there.

BTW, how do you figure they'll work out how to use the touchscreen? I figured they can use two directional pads (W,A,S,D for touchscreen and Up, Right, Left, Down for D-pad) and take it from there.

I dunno about that, I think the touchscreen will be rather interesting.

But if there's one thing I've learned about emulation, it's this-somewhere, someone is going to do it. Now find that someone :p

I dunno about that, I think the touchscreen will be rather interesting.

But if there's one thing I've learned about emulation, it's this-somewhere, someone is going to do it. Now find that someone :p
It's so true. They even have a NES/GB emu for Palm Pilots I've heard. Unfortunatly they cost money, how sad.

It's so true. They even have a NES/GB emu for Palm Pilots I've heard. Unfortunatly they cost money, how sad.

Cost money? *ouch* Kinda takes away one of two reasons I'm into emulation :p

The other, of course, being the reason I have an SNES emulator-those fricking games can't be found anymore.

Cost money? *ouch* Kinda takes away one of two reasons I'm into emulation :p

The other, of course, being the reason I have an SNES emulator-those fricking games can't be found anymore.
It's annoying looking for roms. So whenever I find a good site, I stick with it till it's server gets screwed up. Then I migrate.

It's annoying looking for roms. So whenever I find a good site, I stick with it till it's server gets screwed up. Then I migrate.

There used to be two AWESOME ones for SNES (RPG Oasis and Cult of Kefka) but they both died...:(