NationStates Jolt Archive

Well, we seem to have grabbed some more. I've noticed they always travel at least in twos (never alone), and they've been posting a bit, so what do youthink draws them here, and do you think it has anything to do with the season?

I think it's the promise of 47 Virgin Marys after they get to heaven. Just a theory, though.

I miss the nazinoobs. They're fun.

Maybe its the fact that the mods allow a pretty good measure of free speech here.

I miss the nazinoobs. They're fun.

Maybe its the fact that the mods allow a pretty good measure of free speech here.
What happened to TT's new incarnation anyways? He hasn't been posting.

Nazinoobs?

Please elaborate.

What happened to TT's new incarnation anyways? He hasn't been posting.
He has a new incarnation? Aw hell no.

He has a new incarnation? Aw hell no.
Yep. Defensor Fidei. Unless we have another creationist Catholic Nazi.

Nazinoobs?

Please elaborate.
I had to ask yesterday too
How it was explained is every couple of months a bunch of seemingly random N00bs join up

General attitude is hateful /overwhelmingly vehement attitudes … seems to come in cycles

They are fun to :fluffle: cause it usually makes them mad

I had to ask yesterday too
How it was explained is every couple of months a bunch of seemingly random N00bs join up

General attitude is hateful /overwhelmingly vehement attitudes … seems to come in cycles

They are fun to :fluffle: cause it usually makes them mad Amall Madar - he count as a "sleepycappienoob"? He has this serene fluffy cloud around his head which lets him believe that complete free market is fine for the workers, and that if people in dictatorships in Africa don't like their conditions they should "rise up". Like that did the Iraqis good (Why am I trying to justify myself to you? You're not idiots… I hope).

I don't think I've met many or any nazinoobs. I can probably fill in for ye, though. I have an overwhelmingly violent attitude towards anything, especially chavs. :p

I would like a link to a bit of Nazi Noobage!

Maybe it's because they have been driven indoors from the colder northern US weather.

Amall Madar - he count as a "sleepycappienoob"? He has this serene fluffy cloud around his head which lets him believe that complete free market is fine for the workers, and that if people in dictatorships in Africa don't like their conditions they should "rise up". Like that did the Iraqis good (Why am I trying to justify myself to you? You're not idiots… I hope).

I don't think I've met many or any nazinoobs. I can probably fill in for ye, though. I have an overwhelmingly violent attitude towards anything, especially chavs. :p

I would like a link to a bit of Nazi Noobage!
We are currently waiting for the "influx" dont worry once it happens you will know

Maybe it's because they have been driven indoors from the colder northern US weather.
I hope not ... that would mean lots of my fellow minnesota'ins would be among that group

We are currently waiting for the "influx" dont worry once it happens you will know Don't forget that their grammar and spelling is appallingly inaccurate. Lets you take them apart on two fronts.

Don't forget that their grammar and spelling is appallingly inaccurate. Lets you take them apart on two fronts.
My spelling is always atrocious … so I will stick with the :fluffle: method

My spelling is always atrocious … so I will stick with the :fluffle: method my splelign is alsway atocrius… so i will sick wiv the :fluffle: method

my splelign is alsway atocrius… so i will sick wiv the :fluffle: method
That’s what it looks like … lol unless I run it through Word first (which I make a habit of)

Mix one part politics, one part crazy forum, and stir. Brings the nazin00bs right to your doorstep.

what are/is nazinoobs? candy?

what are/is nazinoobs? candy? Apparently, they are complete psychos who are new to the forum. They generally get CyberLynched™.

Apparently, they are complete psychos who are new to the forum. They generally get CyberLynched™.
Well usually they try to do that to us … but lovin is the best antidote!

Well usually they try to do that to us … but lovin is the best antidote! I agree. The best thing is to actually be civil, thus confusing them and making them rage against the stone wall of your temper. Death by scented bootlace, methinks.

Well, I'm a newb, but I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Nazi...

I generally steer clear of the political topics, anyway. Arguing is no fun, especially on a message board.

I think the influx might be near. I think The United States of Europe was the fore-runner. If any of you read his posts, you would know what I mean.

Well, I'm a newb, but I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Nazi...

I generally steer clear of the political topics, anyway. Arguing is no fun, especially on a message board. Arguing is fun! It is good for the blood in winter. The heat keeps the veins from clogging up (plagiarised: David Eddings).

Just because you're a Newb doesn't mean that you are a nazinoob. I was a noob not long ago, and I still am a… Nation States teenager? Ten year old?

Yep. Defensor Fidei. Unless we have another creationist Catholic Nazi.

Lets not forget his other puppets: The Holy Republic of Tenete Traditiones II & The Res publica Sancta of Jemell.

Ah, but I prefer the cold, Likeinland. I'm a viking!

::mutters:: And if I knew how to quote your post, I would...

::continues to wallow in noob-shame::

::mutters:: And if I knew how to quote your post, I would...


Click on the 'quote' button at the bottom of a post, and the text from it will appear in your response.

I extremely dislike nazinoobs. Most of them are 11 year olds from Wyoming who have been "homeschooled" and brainwashed to think that spiky hair, alligator shoes and snappy clothes are the devil along with Steven Spielberg because he's Jewish.

I extremely dislike nazinoobs. Most of them are 11 year olds from Wyoming who have been "homeschooled" and brainwashed to think that spiky hair, alligator shoes and snappy clothes are the devil along with Steven Spielberg because he's Jewish.
um I think the correct spelling is "Homeskooled" :p

Well, I'm a newb, but I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Nazi...

I generally steer clear of the political topics, anyway. Arguing is no fun, especially on a message board.


I'm a newb too, but no nazi. Most people have been pretty friendly here, but some people like to smack the newbs around a bit. But hang in there and smack back ....but do it gracefully. :cool:

Nazis, n00bs, and nazin00bs have been around time immemorial. Tis a sad fact that they shall probably remain forever.

For the love of God (truly) please don't think TT is representative of conservative Catholics, please. Mods strike me down for flaming, but TT was a paranoic maniac, who thinks the Catholic church is secretely being run by Jews and he and his insane brethren are the sole keepers of truth. So please, don't ever correlate TT and conservative Catholicism - it's like correlating Nazis and Germans, truly.

Personally, I came because I was told there'd be a crudites platter. There wasn't, so I turned surly.

I am so delighted to see that my term continues on.

I'm a newb too, but no nazi. Most people have been pretty friendly here, but some people like to smack the newbs around a bit. But hang in there and smack back ....but do it gracefully. :cool:
Yup or we might :fluffle: you

Yup or we might :fluffle: you

or even.....
(theres never a french-kissing smiley around when you need one )*grumbles*

or even.....
(theres never a french-kissing smiley around when you need one )*grumbles*
Only if you are good :)

I'm a newb too, but no nazi. Most people have been pretty friendly here, but some people like to smack the newbs around a bit. But hang in there and smack back ....but do it gracefully. :cool:


I've opted just to linger within the shadows for awhile, until I can fully understand how people roleplay here. Unlike most n00bs, I prefer to learn how shit works first before I go jumping into the fray.

Only if you are good :)


what if i read various trivia questions to you under the moonlight?

For the love of God (truly) please don't think TT is representative of conservative Catholics, please. Mods strike me down for flaming, but TT was a paranoic maniac, who thinks the Catholic church is secretely being run by Jews and he and his insane brethren are the sole keepers of truth. So please, don't ever correlate TT and conservative Catholicism - it's like correlating Nazis and Germans, truly.
Don't worry. Nobody will think TT represents any church. Its a sad day that someone like him becomes spokesperson for ANY church. He represents the lunatics asylum.

It's not the nazinoobs, as you so charmingly put them that interest me (and scare me) as much as it is the really established ones. Including a few that can string together coherent, and abhorrent sentences in paragraphs that seem logical but are all the more ghastly for it. The nazinoobs are easier to ignore than someone like DA.

Personally, I came because I was told there'd be a crudites platter. There wasn't, so I turned surly.
get more fiber in your diet on your own and you wont be so cranky


i think they are neither nazis nor n00bs. they are the same one or 2 boys over and over again who happened to decide that NOW is the time to return.

they are "nazis" not because they believe the stupid shit they post but because its FUN to get people all upset.

the only way to deal with them is to utterly ignore them so they get no fun out of their time here. without the uproar, they will go bug someone else. i know its hard to let people post horrible racist crap without tearing them to shreds but it only makes it worse. they will never acknowlege that you were right anyway.

these people exists in various forms all over the net. the best you can do is get them to go bug someone else for a while.

How am I supposed to get my fiber when there's no crudites platter? Excuse me for a moment. I need to go insult some jerks.

my splelign is alsway atocrius… so i will sick wiv the :fluffle: method
wow ebonics

I've opted just to linger within the shadows for awhile, until I can fully understand how people roleplay here. Unlike most n00bs, I prefer to learn how shit works first before I go jumping into the fray.
The General Forum doesn't have a lot in the way of roleplay. Most of the people that post here mean/believe what they say.

I've opted just to linger within the shadows for awhile, until I can fully understand how people roleplay here. Unlike most n00bs, I prefer to learn how shit works first before I go jumping into the fray.

That is a good idea, I got killed once, and learned a valuable lesson.

Thanks, Katganistan.

The General Forum doesn't have a lot in the way of roleplay. Most of the people that post here mean/believe what they say.


I know. I also frequent the roleplaying forums to see what's going on, and how people write.

um I think the correct spelling is "Homeskooled" :p

Ah. My misteak.

The General Forum doesn't have a lot in the way of roleplay. Most of the people that post here mean/believe what they say.

Unless they're Snubis. I hated him.

Well, we seem to have grabbed some more. I've noticed they always travel at least in twos (never alone), and they've been posting a bit, so what do youthink draws them here, and do you think it has anything to do with the season?
AHHH! TT AND DA HAVE RETURNED!!!

*readys his IGNORE GunCannon and STFU Sword Strike*

Nazis, n00bs, and nazin00bs have been around time immemorial. Tis a sad fact that they shall probably remain forever.

For the love of God (truly) please don't think TT is representative of conservative Catholics, please. Mods strike me down for flaming, but TT was a paranoic maniac, who thinks the Catholic church is secretely being run by Jews and he and his insane brethren are the sole keepers of truth. So please, don't ever correlate TT and conservative Catholicism - it's like correlating Nazis and Germans, truly.
How great are your people at deception....

How great are your people at deception....


Ohhh, I just love a good nazi!

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

I am a dude, but at least I'm not jewish so will you Fluffle with me?

What happened to TT's new incarnation anyways? He hasn't been posting.

Who?

(TT)http://anikari.zioncreation.com/scared.gif
OMR! NOT YOU AGAIN!

I shall stand for the Christian Church against your horrific blasphemies.

I'm pretty sure it can defend itself.

Horrible blasphemies: like not wanting Jews sent to concentration camps?

I shall stand for the Christian Church against your horrific blasphemies.

Eeeeeeey, that's who I was talking about! ;)

I'm pretty sure it can defend itself.

Horrible blasphemies: like not wanting Jews sent to concentration camps?
Jews sent to concentration camps? Where is this idea coming from?

Perhaps I was exaggerating. In any case, taking it upon yourself to deny salvation to other Christians, and saying that most Catholics aren't aware that the church is being run by an evil Polish Jew and are in fact possibly damned as well, strikes me as madness.

Jews sent to concentration camps? Where is this idea coming from?

Probably the small amount who survived. Maybe the 6 million who died.

Are you just messing with us or are just that ignorant?

Perhaps I was exaggerating. In any case, taking it upon yourself to deny salvation to other Christians, and saying that most Catholics aren't aware that the church is being run by an evil Polish Jew and are in fact possibly damned as well, strikes me as madness.
Do you deny Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus?

Do you deny Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus?

That sounds like a laxative.

Probably the small amount who survived. Maybe the 6 million who died.

Are you just messing with us or are just that ignorant?
Oh, lemme guess, next we'll hear about Jewish soap production? :rolleyes:

Do you deny Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus?

God, I love it when you speak Latin

:doublefluffle:

I shall stand for the Christian Church against your horrific blasphemies.

Hmm. Actually, you can't defend the church against blasphamy. Blasphamy is against God himself, not the church. The church is a purely human organization - unless I've been horribly misinformed, neither God nor any of his angels are actual members of the church. The church is an organization of and for people, directed towards the goal of worshipping him, and spreading that worship.

For example, saying "the church run by mass murderers" isn't blasphemy. Saying something like "God is a flaming monkey, who eats the brains of children," however, would qualify as blasphemy.

Defending the church against blasphamy is very much like defending Switzerland against an attack on Norway.

That sounds like a laxative.
Yet more ignorance of the truth. It is very simple Latin actually, which anyone could figure out easily. Except, apparently, judaizers.

Do you deny Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus?
Do you deny: Gort - Klaatu Barada Nikto? Oooh, guess who else can bust out the fancy words eh?

Hmm. Actually, you can't defend the church against blasphamy. Blasphamy is against God himself, not the church. The church is a purely human organization - unless I've been horribly misinformed, neither God nor any of his angels are actual members of the church. The church is an organization of and for people, directed towards the goal of worshipping him, and spreading that worship.

For example, saying "the church run by mass murderers" isn't blasphemy. Saying something like "God is a flaming monkey, who eats the brains of children," however, would qualify as blasphemy.

Defending the church against blasphamy is very much like defending Switzerland against an attack on Norway.
God is a Catholic, the head of the Church from the Heavens.... This has always been upheld through His Church, which is defended by the Ghost.

God is a Catholic
Eh... what? I sort of see what you're getting at but it still sounds mighty weird.

Do you deny: Gort - Klaatu Barada Nikto? Oooh, guess who else can bust out the fancy words eh?
You claim to be informed on Christianity?! :rolleyes:
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus is an infallibly proclaimed Christian dogma...

You claim to be informed on Christianity?! :rolleyes:
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus is an infallibly proclaimed Christian dogma...
Did I ever claimed to be more informed than you on Catholicism doctrines? Not quite. It seems you are not too informed on the fine art of sarcasm, however. There ya go! Whats this latin about then?

Probably the small amount who survived. Maybe the 6 million who died.

Are you just messing with us or are just that ignorant?

No, chances are he actually denies the Holocaust happens.

Part of being a nazinoob...

Jews sent to concentration camps? Where is this idea coming from?

Are you claiming that Jews qua Jews have never been sent to concentration camps?

honestly, they go away when you just agree with them that yes, the entire world is run by a jewish conspiracy who eat a lot of steak, and that yes, we're all dirty heathens who are going to hell.

Did I ever claimed to be more informed than you on Catholicism doctrines? Not quite. It seems you are not too informed on the fine art of sarcasm, however. There ya go! Whats this latin about then?
Outside the Church, THERE IS NO SALVATION

Outside the Church, THERE IS NO SALVATION

Speaking as an atheist myself:

Inside the Church, THERE IS NO SALVATION

Are you claiming that Jews qua Jews have never been sent to concentration camps?
You must be kidding. I'm still awaiting tales of Jewish lampshades... :rolleyes:

Yet more ignorance of the truth. It is very simple Latin actually, which anyone could figure out easily. Except, apparently, judaizers.

Wait, if we're so stupid, then how come we were smart enough to mind-control you all and rule the world?

And um...I think YOU'RE the one who's ignorant, because, believe me, I'm pretty sure it's a laxative.

Either way it spews crap.

The laxative states that the only way to salvation is catholicism, so yes, I deny it.

Sorry guys, brb, I have to go make my matzos with baby blood.

You must be kidding. I'm still awaiting tales of Jewish lampshades... :rolleyes:

So, no Jew has ever been sent to a concentration camp?

Outside the Church, THERE IS NO SALVATION

Point. And I see the Church as also being composed of other groups who believe that Christ was the Son of God who died to save mankind, and was supernaturally resurrected. I also believe still licking war wounds from the Reformation is a moronic pastime.

Outside the Church, THERE IS NO SALVATION

I'd say for you, there is no salvation inside the church, either.

Face it, either you rot in the grave or you are going to hell, you are pissing your life down the drain by hating so many people. Especially God's chosen people.

Yet more ignorance of the truth. It is very simple Latin actually, which anyone could figure out easily. Except, apparently, judaizers.

Well, that's one of the dumbest things I've heard this year. You DO realize that latin has been a dead language for quite a few centuries now, and that outside of the legal and medical professions, and a few other specific institutions, that nobody is trained it in at all?

Would you, by any chance, be able to understand a very simple sentance in, say, ancient greek? How about aramaic? Hebrew? Nahuatl? Heck, how about modern chinese? Japanese? Polish? Zulu?

That said, I'm not really concerned enough to actually bother to look it up, but at a guess:

Extra = out of/beyond
Ecclesium = the priesthood
Nulla = none/nothing
Salus = no idea on this one...

Point. And I see the Church as also being composed of other groups who believe that Christ was the Son of God who died to save mankind, and was supernaturally resurrected.
The Church of Iesus Christ is the Roman Catholic Church.

Outside the Church, THERE IS NO SALVATION

BIG FONT DOESN'T MAKE YOU RIGHT Oscar Mike Golf!!!!!

The Church of Iesus Christ is the Roman Catholic Church.
No, go on, tell them about the Jewish conspiracy to blow up the world. Novus Ordo, was it? Those tricksy Jews!

Well, that's one of the dumbest things I've heard this year. You DO realize that latin has been a dead language for quite a few centuries now, and that outside of the legal and medical professions, and a few other specific institutions, that nobody is trained it in at all?

Would you, by any chance, be able to understand a very simple sentance in, say, ancient greek? How about aramaic? Hebrew? Nahuatl? Heck, how about modern chinese? Japanese? Polish? Zulu?

That said, I'm not really concerned enough to actually bother to look it up, but at a guess:

Extra = out of/beyond
Ecclesium = the priesthood
Nulla = none/nothing
Salus = no idea on this one...
Ignoring the ignorance of your statements... (Never mind over 60% of English being derived from Latin.)

Latin is the universal language of the Roman Catholic Church, used in performing all liturgical functions and administration. It lives on in many forms.

No, go on, tell them about the Jewish conspiracy to blow up the world. Novus Ordo, was it? Those tricksy Jews!
Jewish conspiracy to blow up the world? Hmm...

The Church of Iesus Christ is the Roman Catholic Church.

Actually, the RCC is only one of the churches of Jesus christ. There's quite a few of them. Several hundred infact.

As a tangent, if you dislike jews, why don't you hate Jesus. You do realize that he was jewish?

You must be kidding. I'm still awaiting tales of Jewish lampshades... :rolleyes:

So you've never been to Auschwitz then?

You've never seen the mounds of human hair, briefcases, glasses, and shoes?

I think you're the one who needs to be educated, my hill billy friend.

And here's some latin for you to translate: Basio mei gluteus maximus.

Actually, the RCC is only one of the churches of Jesus christ. There's quite a few of them. Several hundred infact.

As a tangent, if you dislike jews, why don't you hate Jesus. You do realize that he was jewish?
No, there is only one Church of Christ, the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

And Iesus was not a Jew...

No, there is only one Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.

And Iesus was not a Jew...

HE WAS BORN OF MARY, YOU MANIAC. SHE WAS A JEW. HIS HUMAN SIDE WAS THUS QUITE JEWISH.

You must be kidding. I'm still awaiting tales of Jewish lampshades...
So, no Jew has ever been sent to a concentration camp?


Am I to take your silence on this matter as a yes or as a no?

No, there is only one Church of Christ, the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

And Iesus was not a Jew...

HAHHAHA...darling, he was about as Jewish as you'll ever get.

He lived at home until he was 33.

He went into his dad's business.

He believed his mom was a virgin.

He was 100% completely Jewish. Even the Roman Catholic church doesn't argue with that.

HE WAS BORN OF MARY, YOU MANIAC. SHE WAS A JEW. HIS HUMAN SIDE WAS THUS QUITE JEWISH.

Uh, you're not gonna get anywhere. Just admit that he's right. Common, I know you got the memo. It was passed out last week while we were eating white christian babies?

HAHHAHA...darling, he was about as Jewish as you'll ever get.

He lived at home until he was 33.

He went into his dad's business.

He believed his mom was a virgin.

He was 100% completely Jewish. Even the Roman Catholic church doesn't argue with that.

Point. His mother was, in fact, a virgin. He was also God incarnate. But, He was also very Jewish. Even if, somehow, He wasn't genetically Jewish He grew up in a Jewish culture. So there.

Am I to take your silence on this matter as a yes or as a no? Again, I speak only for the Faith...

"There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies. The Jews created the Holocaust so we would prostrate ourselves on our knees before them and approve of their new State of Israel.... Jews made up the Holocaust, Protestants get their orders from the devil, and the Vatican has sold its soul to liberalism."
--His Lordship Bishop Richard Williamson

Uh, you're not gonna get anywhere. Just admit that he's right. Common, I know you got the memo. It was passed out last week while we were eating white christian babies?
Jews have been drinking the blood of Christian children in their synagogues for far too long.

Again, I speak only for the Faith...

"There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies. The Jews created the Holocaust so we would prostrate ourselves on our knees before them and approve of their new State of Israel.... Jews made up the Holocaust, Protestants get their orders from the devil, and the Vatican has sold its soul to liberalism."
--His Lordship Bishop Richard Williamson
No, more like you're letting this bishop I've never heard of think for you.

Jews have been drinking the blood of Christian children in their synagogues for far too long.

Which reminds me. I'm a little bit thirsty. *hums and goes downstairs to fridge to grab some Christian children blood*

Again, I speak only for the Faith...

"There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies. The Jews created the Holocaust so we would prostrate ourselves on our knees before them and approve of their new State of Israel.... Jews made up the Holocaust, Protestants get their orders from the devil, and the Vatican has sold its soul to liberalism."
--His Lordship Bishop Richard Williamson

Did I mention anything about gas chambers? You are trying to answer a different question. Let's try again:

Have Jews ever been sent to concentration camps on the basis of being Jewish?

Ignoring the ignorance of your statements... (Never mind over 60% of English being derived from Latin.)

Latin is the universal language of the Roman Catholic Church, used in performing all liturgical functions and administration. It lives on in many forms.

Actually, I hate to inform you that english is far more germanic than romance, in regards to it's linguistic origins. Old English was more a form of german than anything else. Most of the romance elements in englsh came via french, when that became the language of the nobility.

And it's use in the church is what i was getting at in regards to the other instutions - but that doesn't make it a living language. Outside of a handful of specific uses, it's not spoken, read or written in. Nobody learns it as their native tongue. There are no communities that speak it on a daily basis for their primary communicative needs. Because of this, it does not grow or adapt.

No, more like you're letting this bishop I've never heard of think for you.
So it matters who you have "heard of?" Sorry, but that has no bearing on the Truth and its messengers, including His Lordship.

You ignored my post about you going to hell.

But seriously, how do you justify your hate with the teachings of Jesus?

How do you blame the Jews for Jesus's death, when Jesus himself asked GOD why he had forsaken him?

Again, I speak only for the Faith...

"There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies. The Jews created the Holocaust so we would prostrate ourselves on our knees before them and approve of their new State of Israel.... Jews made up the Holocaust, Protestants get their orders from the devil, and the Vatican has sold its soul to liberalism."
--His Lordship Bishop Richard Williamson


Hmmm...Then how did most of my family mysteriously disappear off the earth? I wonder how that happened...

And all those mounds of emaciated corpses? Yeah Jews did that too.

IT'S A PLOT AGAINST THE WHITE MAN! OH NO! THE MAJORITY IS BEING SUPPRESSED BY THE MINORITY! HELP!

Actually, I hate to inform you that english is far more germanic than romance, in regards to it's linguistic origins. Old English was more a form of german than anything else. Most of the romance elements in englsh came via french, when that became the language of the nobility.
I am indeed correct... and you have stated random linguistic history?

And it's use in the church is what i was getting at in regards to the other instutions - but that doesn't make it a living language. Outside of a handful of specific uses, it's not spoken, read or written in. Nobody learns it as their native tongue. There are no communities that speak it on a daily basis for their primary communicative needs. Because of this, it does not grow or adapt.
All Christians hear Latin constantly through the Church. And the Church is worldwide, a universal community.

Jews have been drinking the blood of Christian children in their synagogues for far too long.

Ew, no. I eat babies, I don't drink their blood. That's for the white christian virgins, they have much better blood.

So it matters who you have "heard of?" Sorry, but that has no bearing on the Truth and its messengers, including His Lordship.
So His Lordship is ultimately more authoritative than Jesus, who while on the cross and having insults thrown at Him by the Jews, said "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do?"

You ignored my post about you going to hell.

But seriously, how do you justify your hate with the teachings of Jesus?

How do you blame the Jews for Jesus's death, when Jesus himself asked GOD why he had forsaken him?
The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.

So His Lordship is ultimately more authoritative than Jesus, who while on the cross and having insults thrown at Him by the Jews, said "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do?"
Relevance?

No, there is only one Church of Christ, the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

And Iesus was not a Jew...

If Jesus wasn't a Jew, he couldn't have been the messiah. I take it you don't realize that Christianity is technically a form of Judaism? That the primary differance is that Christians believe that Jesus was the messiah, and that the Jews don't?

All the other differances, ultimately, hinge on that one point.

The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.

Oh come now. You know the Bible. Jebus said "Father, Father, why have you forsaken me?" or something like that, didn't he?

The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.
Wow, due to your racist posts on my other thread I officially declare you 'Nazin00b' if somebody hasn't done so before

I am indeed correct... and you have stated random linguistic history?


All Christians hear Latin constantly through the Church. And the Church is worldwide, a universal community.

Excluding....gays, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, animists, pagans, taoists, shintoists, most of Africa....

Yep. Defensor Fidei.
Had no idea whom the Nazi's were. Now it's all too clear.
I refuse to acknowledge his existence since I read his post denying the Catholic kiddie situation. He must share a spiderhole with the Pope.

The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.

No the Romans killed Jesus, both God and the Jews allowed it to happen.

Secondly, nowhere in the bible does that justify your hatred.

The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.

Tradition with a kapital T. Better believe it.

Had no idea whom the Nazi's were. Now it's all too clear.
I refuse to acknowledge his existence since I read his post denying the Catholic kiddie situation. He must share a spiderhole with the Pope.
"Catholic kiddie situation?"

The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.

Technically it was the Romans that carried out the act.


Again, I speak only for the Faith...

"There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies. The Jews created the Holocaust so we would prostrate ourselves on our knees before them and approve of their new State of Israel.... Jews made up the Holocaust, Protestants get their orders from the devil, and the Vatican has sold its soul to liberalism."
--His Lordship Bishop Richard Williamson

Hang on, you're now quoting a man who believes that Karol Joseph Wojtyla is the legitimate Pope* in defense of your opinions, despite the fact that you believe SEDE VACANTE to be the current situation?

Why should the Bishop be correct in the matter of the Holocaust, but incorrect in the matter of the Pope?


* See for example his discussion of the activities of the Pope here:
http://www.sspx.ca/Documents/Bishop-Williamson/April2-2000.htm

I have never actually conversed with someone like this guy before.

It is like talking to a brick wall with sub-par intelligence for a brick wall.

The Jews killed Christ. Both Scripture and Tradition support this fact.

Actually, it's not that "the jews killed christ" but "some specific jews killed christ". What's more, as I understand, it was roman soldiers who did the actual killing. On top of that, everybody involved has been dead for 2000 years. Get over it.

By that logic half the planet should be in a state of pathological rage against the Catholic church for actions it took throughout the dark ages. You know, torturing, conversion-by-the-sword, etc.

If Jesus wasn't a Jew, he couldn't have been the messiah. I take it you don't realize that Christianity is technically a form of Judaism? That the primary differance is that Christians believe that Jesus was the messiah, and that the Jews don't?

All the other differances, ultimately, hinge on that one point.
Jews worship their race through the wicked Talmud, while Christians worship the One True God.

The Church of Iesus Christ is the Roman Catholic Church.

It's spelled Iesus? I was way off.

Actually, it's not that "the jews killed christ" but "some specific jews killed christ". What's more, as I understand, it was roman soldiers who did the actual killing. On top of that, everybody involved has been dead for 2000 years. Get over it.
Ignoring the specific aspects of this post, let me ask one question:

Whom do you blame for the war in Iraq?

The soldiers involved in the conflict or El Presidente Bush or who?
By that logic half the planet should be in a state of pathological rage against the Catholic church for actions it took throughout the dark ages. You know, torturing, conversion-by-the-sword, etc.
The Church took part in no such things.

Tradition with a kapital T. Better believe it.
Ahh he's back!

It's spelled Iesus? I was way off.
Yes, you were.

Actually, it's not that "the jews killed christ" but "some specific jews killed christ". What's more, as I understand, it was roman soldiers who did the actual killing. On top of that, everybody involved has been dead for 2000 years. Get over it.


Except Jesus.

Ahh he's back!
Who is?

Technically it was the Romans that carried out the act.


There is nothing technical about it. Crucifixion was only used by the Romans as a deterrent to uprisings. It was never a Jewish form of execution. There are several instances where they deviated from Jewish law and tradition in the execution of Christ. He was sentenced to death by a Roman, the troops that tortured him were Roman, the troops who nailed him to the cross were Roman. The sign signalling the "King of the Jews" represents the Roman method of deterring future leaders of rebellion. Jewish leaders would have never engaged in such blasphemy whether it was sarcasm or not.

It's spelled Iesus? I was way off.

Actually, it's not spelled either way. His name's hewbew. Jesus Christ is basicly the latinized form of it. Not sure why he's using an I, but that's probably the reason. As I recall, a phonetical rendering of the original name is actually fairly differant.

Kind of like the way he's usually depicted as having long hair, even though in the bible he talks about long hair being bad, and given the culture and racial makeup of that time and place would probably have had really short curly hair.

Except Jesus.

All questions regarding that statement asside, given the number of times he talked about turning the other cheek, forgiving people, etc, I would suspect he forgave them.

If he is/was anything like the way the most christians believe him to be, he'd be the first to tell people that it's flat out insane to hate people for things that they had absolutely nothing to do with.

Ignoring the specific aspects of this post, let me ask one question:

Whom do you blame for the war in Iraq?

The soldiers involved in the conflict or El Presidente Bush or who?

The Church took part in no such things.

Let's see... The Spanish Inquisition, witch trials, etc. were directly church related. As were the various actions taken against "heretics" of all sorts. There was a fairly heavy amount of torture, not to mention executions, involved there.

The crusades were directly sponsored by the church, in an attempt to conquer the holy land, and involved a great deal of death, rape, destruction, etc.

They were quite happy with the conquistador's actions in south america, which involved an even more impressive amount of killing, in the name of both God and Gold.

A wise man once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

So His Lordship is ultimately more authoritative than Jesus, who while on the cross and having insults thrown at Him by the Jews, said "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do?"

Relevance?

You are officially out of your tree. Have a nice day.



THOSE WERE THE VERY WORDS OF GOD YOU NINCOMPOOP!

Let's see... The Spanish Inquisition, witch trials, etc. were directly church related. As were the various actions taken against "heretics" of all sorts. There was a fairly heavy amount of torture, not to mention executions, involved there.
The Spanish Inquisition was wonderful as was the Church policy of Inquisition in general, which ensured sound Christian doctrine would overcome evil heresies.

The crusades were directly sponsored by the church, in an attempt to conquer the holy land, and involved a great deal of death, rape, destruction, etc.
Yet again...
The Crusades were valiant expeditions of courage in response to the Mahometans' brutal mistreatment of Christians and desecration of holy sites in the Holy Land. Christianity has always responded compassionately to those being oppressed, such as in the case of the Mahometans' violent activities in the Land.

Let's see... The Spanish Inquisition, witch trials, etc. were directly church related. As were the various actions taken against "heretics" of all sorts. There was a fairly heavy amount of torture, not to mention executions, involved there.

The crusades were directly sponsored by the church, in an attempt to conquer the holy land, and involved a great deal of death, rape, destruction, etc.

They were quite happy with the conquistador's actions in south america, which involved an even more impressive amount of killing, in the name of both God and Gold.

A wise man once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Thatd be Jesus who said that. (according to the Bible)

The Spanish Inquisition was wonderful as was the Church policy of Inquisition in general, which ensured sound Christian doctrine would overcome evil heresies.

Yet again...
The Crusades were valiant expeditions of courage in response to the Mahometans' brutal mistreatment of Christians and desecration of holy sites in the Holy Land. Christianity has always responded compassionately to those being oppressed, such as in the case of the Mahometans' violent activities in the Land.

Doesn't matter WHY they pushed for the torture and murder of people, the fact it, simply that they did. If you are justified in hating all Jews for actions taken by a tiny minority of their people 2000 years ago, then half the world is justified in hating you for the actions and policies of the catholic church a few centuries back.

If you believe that the reasons for the inquisition are justified, then you are also justifying his death, as the reasons involved were actually virtually the same.

Thatd be Jesus who said that. (according to the Bible)

That'd be my point. ;)

Doesn't matter WHY they pushed for the torture and murder of people, the fact it, simply that they did. If you are justified in hating all Jews for actions taken by a tiny minority of their people 2000 years ago, then half the world is justified in hating you for the actions and policies of the catholic church a few centuries back.

If you believe that the reasons for the inquisition are justified, then you are also justifying his death, as the reasons involved were actually virtually the same.
The Church didn't "torture and murder" like you claim.

I like how this thread went from talking about the people, to actually talking to some of them.

What are we talking about? I am too lazy to go back and read all of this crap.

Hey ho, I'll try again:

TT, were any Jews ever placed in concentration camps on account of their being Jews?

The Church didn't "torture and murder" like you claim.

And what, pray tell, do you think the inquisition's methods entailed? Sitting around and politely drinking a cup of tea? Then just have a polite conversation after the person in question, completely of his own volition, admited his heresy, and just ask him nicely to change his ways?

Hmm. I'd assume that the heretics and so-called witches, who were fairly often sentanced to burn, tied themselves to the stakes, and burned themselves alive?

And, somehow, the christian soldiers acting under papal sanction didn't kill people while running amok in the holy land (not to mention south america), stealing anything that wasn't nailed down?

I like how this thread went from talking about the people, to actually talking to some of them.

What are we talking about? I am too lazy to go back and read all of this crap.


No se Banditos, but theres a real lame porn thread going on.

Hey ho, I'll try again:

TT, were any Jews ever placed in concentration camps on account of their being Jews?
TT? And no.

No se Banditos, but theres a real lame porn thread going on.
Neat.

TT? And no.

OK, has a Jew ever been placed in a concentration camp?

TT? And no.

Don't pretend you're not him. Busting out obscure latin at every turn, card-staking every centuries-old papal quote you can. It's obvious you are Tenete Traditions.
Your grip on reality is a tenous one old boy.

OK, has a Jew ever been placed in a concentration camp?
How many times must you repeat this same question? I have answered it enough times now.

How many times must you repeat this same question? I have answered it enough times now.

You haven't answered this question: you have denied tha any Jew has ever been placed in a concentration camp for being Jewish. This is asking whether you believe that a Jew has ever been placed in a concentration camp for any reason whatsoever.


EDIT: I'll add another question: were concentration camps operated by the Nazi regime other than for POWs?

Don't pretend you're not him. Busting out obscure latin at every turn, card-staking ever centuries-old papal quote you can. It's obvious you are Tenete Traditions.
You're grip on reality is a tenous one old boy.
itaque fratres state et tenete traditiones quas didicistis sive per sermonem sive per epistulam nostram
--II Ad Thessalonicenses iiXV

You haven't answered this question: you have denied tha any Jew has ever been placed in a concentration camp for being Jewish. This is asking whether you believe that a Jew has ever been placed in a concentration camp for any reason whatsoever.
Perhaps by Mahometans, but who could really know for sure what goes on over there when infidels control the Holy Land.


EDIT: I'll add another question: were concentration camps operated by the Nazi regime other than for POWs?
You are assuming far too much in this question.

You are assuming far too much in this question.

Okay: I'll break it down:

1. Do you believe that a place called Germany exists?
2. Do you believe that it was (at least) nominally controlled by the Nazi party for some part of its history?
3. Do you believe that at one point during this (at least nominal) control concentration camps were operated there?
4. Do you believe that these concentrated camps were used to house people other than enemy combatants who had been captured?

Okay: I'll break it down:

1. Do you believe that a place called Germany exists?
2. Do you believe that it was (at least) nominally controlled by the Nazi party for some part of its history?
3. Do you believe that at one point during this (at least nominal) control concentration camps were operated there?
4. Do you believe that these concentrated camps were used to house people other than enemy combatants who had been captured?
Yes, yes, no, no.

How can you support and defend the Nazis as a Catholic when they were avowedly anti-religious, basing their hatred of the Jews not on religious dogma as you seem to say but on a ridiculous paranoia of Hitler and the Party to find easy and rich scapegoats? The National Socialists did persecute the Jews to a horrendous extent in Europe, perpetrating without question the greatest crime against innocent civilian humanity that has ever been carried out. But my point is that they persecuted Catholics and followers of any religion in their own ways, much like Stalin outlawing the Orthodox Church. Polish, Eastern European, and even German Catholic priests were butchered alongside Jews.

How can you support and defend the Nazis as a Catholic when they were avowedly anti-religious, basing their hatred of the Jews not on religious dogma as you seem to say but on a ridiculous paranoia of Hitler and the Party to find easy and rich scapegoats? The National Socialists did persecute the Jews to a horrendous extent in Europe, perpetrating without question the greatest crime against innocent civilian humanity that has ever been carried out. But my point is that they persecuted Catholics and followers of any religion in their own ways, much like Stalin outlawing the Orthodox Church. Polish, Eastern European, and even German Catholic priests were butchered alongside Jews.

So wait, it's not okay for the nazis to hate Jews, but it is okay for Catholics?

Hating a people is anti-religious itself you hypocrite.

So you've never been to Auschwitz then?

You've never seen the mounds of human hair, briefcases, glasses, and shoes?

I think you're the one who needs to be educated, my hill billy friend.

And here's some latin for you to translate: Basio mei gluteus maximus.
Please don't insult us Southerners like that... we're not ignorant like this guy.

Eugh Nazi Noobs suck. I myself participated in the destruction of the same one about 6 times, since each time he denied that he had actually been defeated.

Perhaps by Mahometans, but who could really know for sure what goes on over there when infidels control the Holy Land.

Unlikely. Concentration Camps where invented by General Kitchener in the Boer War. You after all should know that Traditional punishment for infidels or unbelievers was short sharp and pointy. Have you ever considered reason, by any chance?

Actually, it's not spelled either way. His name's hewbew. Jesus Christ is basicly the latinized form of it. Not sure why he's using an I, but that's probably the reason. As I recall, a phonetical rendering of the original name is actually fairly differant.

Kind of like the way he's usually depicted as having long hair, even though in the bible he talks about long hair being bad, and given the culture and racial makeup of that time and place would probably have had really short curly hair.
The 'I' is there because there is no actual 'J' in Latin.

English is very much a Germanic language, derived from the language spoken by the Angles (where the prefix Anglo- comes from) and Saxons. The Angles and Saxons (very Germanic tribes) came to England from Northen Europe, southern Denmark and northern France/Germany respectively.

edit: wikipedia to the rescue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language)

Yes, yes, no, no.

Why? The material evidence isn't enough for you? The burnt and emaciated bodies? 6 million Jews randomly disappearing?

Or maybe you're in denial that your religion did nothing to stop the suffering of others as it claims as something it stands for.

Yes, yes, no, no.

OK, so Germany did exist, and it was (at least nominally) controlled by the Nazi party.

However, you do not believe that the Nazi party operated Internment or Labour camps.

Do you believe that POWs were actually held in POW camps within Germany?

EDIT: so are are revisionists such as David Irving, who deny the widespread intentional killing of Jews by the Nazis, but continue to accept the existence of concentration camps, merely mistaken, or part of a wider, more sinister conspiracy?

EDIT II: So PG Wodehouse was never placed in a concentration camp by the Germans?

So wait, it's not okay for the nazis to hate Jews, but it is okay for Catholics?

Hating a people is anti-religious itself you hypocrite.

ey im not a hypocrite. Im just trying to establish that the Nazis were bad even from the perspective of the most vehement Jew-hating Catholic. I dont hate a single people in their entirety. That is generalization, prejudice, discrimination, and wholly immoral. I say this from the standpoint of a moderate yet independent minded Catholic. If I need to worship the Vatican, Latin, and their customs as divinity on Earth to be a Catholic, then I'll just worship God by my own morality. Any religious intolerance that the Church has committed throughout history I am fully aware of, and duly apologize for what its worth from my perspective. This is not the way all Catholics are. There is no way that any people definitively, conclusively acts, and this is the best step towards eliminating prejudicial attitudes.

OK, so Germany did exist, and it was (at least nominally) controlled by the Nazi party.

However, you do not believe that the Nazi party operated Internment or Labour camps.

Do you believe that POWs were actually held in POW camps within Germany?

EDIT: so are are revisionists such as David Irving, who deny the widespread intentional killing of Jews by the Nazis, but continue to accept the existence of concentration camps, merely mistaken, or part of a wider, more sinister conspiracy?

The whole "war" was a Jewish-instigated endeavor through the assistance of evil Masonic world leaders like Churchill and Roosevelt.

I always get stuck in the middle between the Jew-hating Catholic Zealot and the Catholic hating, erm, people.

It annoys me so.

The whole "war" was a Jewish-instigated endeavor through the assistance of evil Masonic world leaders like Churchill and Roosevelt.

That's not answering the questions:

1. were POWs housed in POW camps in Germany?
2. are revisionists such as Irving mistaken or being deceptive when they claim that concentration camps existed, but death camps did not?
3. what were the facilities which are believed to have been German concentration camps used for?

That's not answering the questions:

1. were POWs housed in POW camps in Germany?
2. are revisionists such as Irving mistaken or being deceptive when they claim that concentration camps existed, but death camps did not?
3. what were the facilities which are believed to have been German concentration camps used for?
1) Yes, not Jews
2) They did, but not for Jews
3) Goyim enslavement-
the real Holocaust was against the European people, who suffered at the oppressive hands of the Jewish world establishment.

The whole "war" was a Jewish-instigated endeavor through the assistance of evil Masonic world leaders like Churchill and Roosevelt.
1) Yes, not Jews
2) They did, but not for Jews
3) Goyim enslavement-
the real Holocaust was against the European people, who suffered at the oppressive hands of the Jewish world establishment.

Ok, make up your mind, who's running things - the masons or the jews?

At least TRY for a semblance of internal consistancy in your paranoid delusions?

1. ...
2. ...
3. Do you believe that at one point during this (at least nominal) control concentration camps were operated there?
4. ...

Yes, yes, no, no.



2. are revisionists such as Irving mistaken or being deceptive when they claim that concentration camps existed, but death camps did not?

2) They did, but not for Jews

So, you have gone from a belief that concentration camps didn't exist in Germany, to a belief that concentration camps did exist in Germany. Yes?

*shakes BWO's hand for pwning that Nazi's logic against himself*
If only he would just accept defeat though

*shakes BWO's hand for pwning that Nazi's logic against himself*

IIRC correctly he prefers the term White Nationalist himself.

So, you have gone from a belief that concentration camps didn't exist in Germany, to a belief that concentration camps did exist in Germany. Yes?
No, as you said:
However, you do not believe that the Nazi party operated Internment or Labour camps.
The Nazi party did not operate any "camps." They were much too weak a movement for such a thing. The camps were run by outside forces that controlled Germany.

Wow! This is just amazing! It's like watching a trainwreck, you want to turn away but you just can't help but watch! :eek:

What version of the Bible does this guy follow?

No, as you said:

However, you do not believe that the Nazi party operated Internment or Labour camps.


The Nazi party did not operate any "camps." They were much too weak a movement for such a thing. The camps were run by outside forces that controlled Germany.



But you have already stated that no concentration camps were operated in Germany:


1. ...
2. ...
3. Do you believe that at one point during this (at least nominal) control concentration camps were operated there?
4. ...




Yes, yes, no, no.

Jew reporting in :-D
Just got done reading the whole thread and I am quite entertained :-P
Anyways what I want to know is, if the Jews are cooperating with the Masons in order to control the world and what-not, first off why wasnt I told? and also, why have I until recently lived in a three bedroom apartment with my parents and sister, when I obviously would have been able to call in numerous favors as well as hoard large sums of money to purchase a large home...
I guess someone forgot to send me the minutes from the last Elders meeting.

Wow! This is just amazing! It's like watching a trainwreck, you want to turn away but you just can't help but watch! :eek:

What version of the Bible does this guy follow?
Not the version sane conservative Catholics follow. He holds the word of anti-Semitic Bishops higher than the Bible.

Wow! This is just amazing! It's like watching a trainwreck, you want to turn away but you just can't help but watch! :eek:
ROFLMAO, so true

Wow! This is just amazing! It's like watching a trainwreck, you want to turn away but you just can't help but watch! :eek:

What version of the Bible does this guy follow?
The Catholic Bible.

The whole "war" was a Jewish-instigated endeavor through the assistance of evil Masonic world leaders like Churchill and Roosevelt.

Did you see 'National Treasure' too? That was a cool movie, and it had masons in it. I wonder if Churchill and Roosevelt buried their treasure too? And maybe they put a curse on it too, so that if some guy tried to come and take it all because he's a good guy, a big rock would come and crush him to death. And everybody would be all like, omg, we found the treasure, but that guy got crushed by a rock. That was a good movie.

The Catholic Bible.

So this is a bible in *English* you're reading? Not in Aramaic?

Oh, and if the Jews are in charge and always have been, how is it that the bible was translated FROM Hebrew TO Latin? How do you know the Hebrews didn't fill it with propaganda?

The Catholic Bible.


Septuigent? Vulgate? King James? Good News? New Standard Revised?

So this is a bible in *English* you're reading? Not in Aramaic?

Oh, and if the Jews are in charge and always have been, how is it that the bible was translated FROM Hebrew TO Latin? How do you know the Hebrews didn't fill it with propaganda?
Huh? Please clarify your thoughts here into something more comprehensible. What do the Jews have to do with the Bible translation?

Septuigent? Vulgate? King James? Good News? New Standard Revised?
King James, Good News, New Standard Revised= NON-CATHOLIC

Septuigent? Vulgate? King James? Good News? New Standard Revised?

I'd guess the Modern Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist version.

I'd guess the Modern Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist version.
Wrong, fool.

Huh? Please clarify your thoughts here into something more comprehensible. What do the Jews have to do with the Bible translation?

The Bible was translated from Hebrew. Doesn't that make you suspicious?

The Bible was translated from Hebrew. Doesn't that make you suspicious?
Yes, some parts of the Bible were translated from Hebrew, what is your point?

Okay, I'll spell it out for you.

Parts of the bible were translated from Hebrew.

What group of people speak and write Hebrew? Jews.

Therefore Jews had a hand in the creation of your bible.

Or do you think that your bible cannot be corrupt, that the word of god is somehow immune to being edited?

Yes, some parts of the Bible were translated from Hebrew, what is your point?

His point is that Hebrew was the language of the Jews and, as you so eloquently pointed out, the Jews are in league with the Masons, which means a treasure map is hidden in the bible.

Yes, some parts of the Bible were translated from Hebrew, what is your point?

Perhaps the fact that christianity is an offshoot of judaism?

Edited:
I realized I want no part of this ignorant conversation.

The whole "war" was a Jewish-instigated endeavor through the assistance of evil Masonic world leaders like Churchill and Roosevelt.

3. what were the facilities which are believed to have been German concentration camps used for?


3) Goyim enslavement-
the real Holocaust was against the European people, who suffered at the oppressive hands of the Jewish world establishment.

OK, so are you claiming that the Jews were in control of Germany during WWII (this seems to be what you are implying here), and with the aid of Churchill and Roosevelt stage managed the whole show?

What was the objective here?

What happened to the Goyim that were enslaved in the concentration camps in Germany?

King James, Good News, New Standard Revised= NON-CATHOLIC
Well done, except that the New Standard Revised is fully endorsed by the Catholic Church... but if you're not using any of the non-Catholic ones, which one are you using?

Are you reading a version in English, if so, who's the publisher? or is your Latin good enough for the Vulgate?

Okay, I'll spell it out for you.

Parts of the bible were translated from Hebrew.

What group of people speak and write Hebrew? Jews.

Therefore Jews had a hand in the creation of your bible.

Or do you think that your bible cannot be corrupt, that the word of god is somehow immune to being edited?
Here is yet another misconception concerning the word "Jew." Up until the last few decades, it was accepted in the West that the race that roamed the world who would come to be calling themselves the "Jews" were just parasitic nomads who had killed Christ. Propaganda campaigns more recently have forced modern folk to somehow make a correlation between the modern-day Jew and the Israel of the Old Testament. They convinced everyone that they are really the Chosen Race, where Iesus really comes from, etc. to empower themselves.
Any actual racial connections to the ancient Israelites are extremely doubtful.
It should be reminded to you that even if they were actually the descendants, then they would only be 1/12 of the tribes of Israel, among whom Hebrew was spoken.
The "lost tribes" of Israel dissolving sometime around the 8th century a.C.n.
The "Jews" stole the language, customs etc. and adapted them to their cultic racial religion, which culminated in the formation of the Talmud, a book that reflects their continual defiance of God and total rejection at Calvary. Of course, we must not forget the Khazars, the Asiatic Eastern Europeans who underwent mass conversions to Talmudic Judaism for political reasons in the A.D. 9th century.

But to get back on topic, the answer to the question is no, not only because the "Jews" did not produce it, but because it has been inerrantly translated through the power of the Holy Ghost by the Church.

Well done, except that the New Standard Revised is fully endorsed by the Catholic Church... but if you're not using any of the non-Catholic ones, which one are you using?
No, the "NRSV" uses "inclusive language," condemned by the Church.

Are you reading a version in English, if so, who's the publisher? or is your Latin good enough for the Vulgate?
The Latin Vulgate is the most pure translation which I use sometimes, though when in English, the only acceptable major Catholic translation is the Douay-Rheims.

The Spanish Inquisition was wonderful as was the Church policy of Inquisition in general, which ensured sound Christian doctrine would overcome evil heresies.


Yet again...
The Crusades were valiant expeditions of courage in response to the Mahometans' brutal mistreatment of Christians and desecration of holy sites in the Holy Land. Christianity has always responded compassionately to those being oppressed, such as in the case of the Mahometans' violent activities in the Land.

then could you maybe explain all the murder of fellow christians, rape, and cannibalism?

no, never mind. explanations beginning with "see, first the jews worshipped themselves some satan" don't interest me.

then could you maybe explain all the murder of fellow christians, rape, and cannibalism?

These rank right up there with the Jewish soap myths. :rolleyes:

But to get back on topic, the answer to the question is no, not only because the "Jews" did not produce it, but because it has been inerrantly translated through the power of the Holy Ghost by the Church.

Explain this to me, then:

The second species of accommodation, called allusive, is often a mere play on words and at times seems due to a misunderstanding of the original meaning. The Vulgate text, Mirabilis Deus in sanctis suis (Ps., lxvii, 36) means, in the mouth of the Psalmist, that God is wonderful in His sanctuary (sancta, -orum). The Latin words may also be translated "God is wonderful in his saints" (sancti, -orum), and they are employed in this sense in the Missal. As this second signification was not intended by the inspired writer, the English rendering of the text in the Douay version is a mistranslation.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01099b.htm

His name's Yeshua, if you're wanting to be picky...
He only becomes Iesus when you change it into Greek. They don't have Y or SH.

Pop quiz: what was Judas' first name?

Explain this to me, then:

The second species of accommodation, called allusive, is often a mere play on words and at times seems due to a misunderstanding of the original meaning. The Vulgate text, Mirabilis Deus in sanctis suis (Ps., lxvii, 36) means, in the mouth of the Psalmist, that God is wonderful in His sanctuary (sancta, -orum). The Latin words may also be translated "God is wonderful in his saints" (sancti, -orum), and they are employed in this sense in the Missal. As this second signification was not intended by the inspired writer, the English rendering of the text in the Douay version is a mistranslation.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01099b.htm
Explain what? :confused:

King James, Good News, New Standard Revised= NON-CATHOLIC

Okay, you know what guys? This is really cruel. I'm actually starting to feel bad for the guy.

Mr. Child Rapist Priest Dude,

Can't you see that you are our monkey and that we are contradicting you because us heathens like seeing you exposed as the idiot you are?

Go home. You've been here forever. Just go home and stop humiliating yourself.

These rank right up there with the Jewish soap myths. :rolleyes:

And stop with the emoticons. You are being sinful by employing means of expression by HEATHENS DON'T YOU SEE??!?!?!?! HEATHENS?!?!?!?

Explain what? :confused:

How if the Bible has been "inerrantly translated through the power of the Holy Ghost by the Church" it contains mistranslations.

How if the Bible has been "inerrantly translated through the power of the Holy Ghost by the Church" it contains mistranslations.
The Vulgate is 100% inerrant in every possible way. It contains no errors.

But to get back on topic, the answer to the question is no, not only because the "Jews" did not produce it, but because it has been inerrantly translated through the power of the Holy Ghost by the Church.

No such thing as an inerant translation. Translation, by it's nature, is inaccurate. Simple nouns, "apple" or "tree" for example, generally go across pretty well, but when you get into abstracts, for example, or cultural terms, the translations can range from quite difficult to essentially impossible to translate without a loss or shift in meaning.

Further, any living language changes over time. What a given word means now, may not mean what it did even a few years ago, never mind over decades or centuries.

If you've had any experience with translation, either directly or indirectly, you'd be aware of these little details.

Inerrantly translated? The same kind of inerrant translation that Joseph Smith was granted by an angel of the Lord...?

Okay, you know what guys? This is really cruel. I'm actually starting to feel bad for the guy.

Mr. Child Rapist Priest Dude,

Can't you see that you are our monkey and that we are contradicting you because us heathens like seeing you exposed as the idiot you are?

Go home. You've been here forever. Just go home and stop humiliating yourself.
Catholic priests don't rape children, heathen.

No such thing as an inerant translation. Translation, by it's nature, is inaccurate. Simple nouns, "apple" or "tree" for example, generally go across pretty well, but when you get into abstracts, for example, or cultural terms, the translations can range from quite difficult to essentially impossible to translate without a loss or shift in meaning.

Further, any living language changes over time. What a given word means now, may not mean what it did even a few years ago, never mind over decades or centuries.

If you've had any experience with translation, either directly or indirectly, you'd be aware of these little details.
Divine Inspiration supersedes "these little details."

Inerrantly translated? The same kind of inerrant translation that Joseph Smith was granted by an angel of the Lord...?

Do yourself a favor. We are taunting you, don't you get it? Just stop, go home, and believe all the holier than thou crap you like, eh?

Seriously, you are humiliating yourself.

Catholic priests don't rape children, heathen.

Did you not read and see with your own eyes THE TIMELINE FOR GOD'S SAKE OF CATHOLIC PRIESTS RAPING CHILDREN???? And if your argument is that they aren't "catholic" then how come they were certified by the church?

Do yourself a favor. We are taunting you, don't you get it? Just stop, go home, and believe all the holier than thou crap you like, eh?

The angels would hope you would have better things to do... :rolleyes:

Did you not read and see with your own eyes THE TIMELINE FOR GOD'S SAKE OF CATHOLIC PRIESTS RAPING CHILDREN???? And if your argument is that they aren't "catholic" then how come they were certified by the church?
Not by the Catholic Church.

No such thing as an inerant translation.

"Gavagai!"

The angels would hope you would have better things to do... :rolleyes:

This is the one thing I agree with you on. I shouldn't be wasting my oxygen staring at a computer screen with crap spewed all over it.

And what about your time? You've spent, what, the last few hours on here arguing your defenseless point?

Face it, no matter what, you rely on the Bible, and that is not a DEFINITE credible source. So please, for the love of whichever god you like, pull your head out of your ass.

Not by the Catholic Church.

Yes, by the Catholic Church. Read the article. CERTIFIED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Yes, by the Catholic Church. Read the article. CERTIFIED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
The Jewish media says a lot of things, yet you cannot believe them.

The Jewish media says a lot of things, yet you cannot believe them.


CNN is the Jewish media. ooooh I forgot. Sorry. I run and control that one too.

This is fucking useless. I'm going to go to sleep and I am going to dream about the day you come to grips with your psychotic denial.

JEWISH PRIDE Y'ALL! POWA!

Toodles. ;)

Ah, the joys of transliteration....

I'm buggered, so I'm going home.

One of those words has multiple meanings...
Take your pick as to what I mean.

Any translation has exactly the same problem... Literal versus abstract...

Edit: And I always use lubricant.... :D

Ah, the joys of transliteration....

I'm buggered, so I'm going home.

One of those words has multiple meanings...
Take your pick as to what I mean.

Any translation has exactly the same problem...
What is your point?

The Vulgate is 100% inerrant in every possible way. It contains no errors.

Which version of the Vulgate? The Nova Vulgata or the Vulgata Clementina?

I dont exactly understand your theory, or rather the theory you are supporting/presenting about the Jews not being the Israelites. If the Jews are not the Israelites from the bible then where did they come from and at what point did the real Israelites become replaced by the nomadic christ killers?
Also please explain what your saying about the Talmud and such.

Which version of the Vulgate? The Nova Vulgata or the Vulgata Clementina?
Although numerous forms of the Vulgate have been maintained by the Church throughout the centuries, the Clementine is perhaps the most reliable as being safeguarded against errors for use in today's age. The Nova Vulgata has been altered by Modernists and should not be entrusted as the Vulgate of the Church.

What is your point?
My point is that the translators weren't writing at the same time as the original was written. Concepts differ through time and location. If I said "I'm buggered" 50 years ago, people's eyebrows would have gone through the roof. They still would in half the countries of the world, but where I come from it's standard terminology for feeling tired, and is in no way an indication of the state of my posterior sphincter.
The Bible was translated centuries after it was originally written. How much have concepts and especially euphamisms changed in 50 years, let alone centuries?

Although numerous forms of the Vulgate have been maintained by the Church throughout the centuries, the Clementine is perhaps the most reliable as being safeguarded against errors for use in today's age.


Describing a version as "perhaps the most reliable" does not seem to match your earlier claim that is "100% inerrant in every possible way... It contains no errors". Surely if it is 100% inerrent then there is no question of its reliability?

Where did he go? :(

That guy was cool. He made me laugh.

Describing a version as "perhaps the most reliable" does not seem to match your earlier claim that is "100% inerrant in every possible way... It contains no errors". Surely if it is 100% inerrent then there is no question of its reliability?
All Roman Catholic Vulgates are 100% inerrant. The Clementine features the most ideal language for use in this age, being the most commonly sanctioned Bible for use in the Church.

All Roman Catholic Vulgates are 100% inerrant. The Clementine features the most ideal language for use in this age, being the most commonly sanctioned Bible for use in the Church.

Hmm do you believe that the pope is always right then?

Which version of the Vulgate? The Nova Vulgata or the Vulgata Clementina?

Wow someone has a religion b of arts lol...

Hmm do you believe that the pope is always right then?
When infallible.

When infallible.

When is the pope infallible then?

When is the pope infallible then?
When it is invoked.

Papa fidem scit, sed aliter nihil. [possibly, last 3 words don't make any sense because of a poor translation] And if my Catholic upbringing was correct, Pope Pius IX called Vatican I, claiming himself infallible to spite the Italians because of the loss of the Papal States. Also, you do know that the Latin titles of the encyclicals are just the first words not the intent of the message.

All Roman Catholic Vulgates are 100% inerrant. The Clementine features the most ideal language for use in this age, being the most commonly sanctioned Bible for use in the Church.

...perhaps the most reliable...

So, all Catholic Vulgates are 100% inerrant, but in your own words one kind is 'perhaps more reliable' than the other: surely you see the contradiction involved here. If one is more reliable, than one must be less reliable, and as such not 100% inerrant.

Else why express a preference for the Clementina over the Nova?

Wow someone has a religion b of arts lol...

Nah: Philosophy and Scholastic Philosophy BA, and an MA in Continental Philosophy actually...

So, all Catholic Vulgates are 100% inerrant, but in your own words one kind is 'perhaps more reliable' than the other: surely you see the contradiction involved here. If one is more reliable, than one must be less reliable, and as such not 100% inerrant.

Else why express a preference for the Clementina over the Nova?


No, BWO

I figured it out.

Things are inerant, or something, when they are invoked. Probably

That happens when people decide they are invoked. Possibly.

Thus the absolute innerancy of the bible. Or something.

Do you see now?

So, all Catholic Vulgates are 100% inerrant, but in your own words one kind is 'perhaps more reliable' than the other: surely you see the contradiction involved here. If one is more reliable, than one must be less reliable, and as such not 100% inerrant.

Else why express a preference for the Clementina over the Nova?
It is most reliable to be properly understood in this age, as opposed to other versions. Being more reliable as a lingual text has no effect on the absolute inerrancy of the version of the Vulgate.

It is most reliable to be properly understood in this age, as opposed to other versions. Being more reliable as a lingual text has no effect on the absolute inerrancy of the version of the Vulgate.

You are presupposing that we can never know the truth. Is that it.

I'm not going to say it is neccesarily evil or dumb to be a Facist/Nazi nation in NS. One, if your doing it for RP purposes, then the hell..have fun..but if your doing it to be annoying and think you'll be cool..fuck off lol.

Now, I think I should be a Facist for the day to show them how it is done lol

Infact, someone post guidelines on how to be a Communist Nation, Capitalist Nation, Facist Nation and so on....but then, why waste your time when people can learn by them selfs lol...

It is most reliable to be properly understood in this age, as opposed to other versions. Being more reliable as a lingual text has no effect on the absolute inerrancy of the version of the Vulgate.

So, 100% inerrancy still allows for the possibility of gross misinterpretation and a breakdown of hermeneutics?

So, 100% inerrancy still allows for the possibility of gross misinterpretation and a breakdown of hermeneutics?
No. The Church, as a living institution, has an obligation to safeguard the Sacred Scriptures and maintain their usage in the Christian world throughout the ages.

No. The Church, as a living institution, has an obligation to safeguard the Sacred Scriptures and maintain their usage in the Christian world throughout the ages.

It may very well do so, but you have already allowed that misunderstanding of the text is possible:

It is most reliable to be properly understood in this age, as opposed to other versions.

So, it is possible to misinterprete the text of the Nova as an individual, but not as the collective Church (even though the Church as a whole is not infallible), is that what you are claiming?

It may very well do so, but you have already allowed that misunderstanding of the text is possible:



So, it is possible to misinterprete the text of the Nova as an individual, but not as the collective Church (even though the Church as a whole is not infallible), is that what you are claiming?
The "Nova" is not in the same category as the Vulgate of the Catholic Church.

So, 100% inerrancy still allows for the possibility of gross misinterpretation and a breakdown of hermeneutics?

Hermeneutics is left wing garbage.

The "Nova" is not in the same category as the Vulgate of the Catholic Church.

Sorry, my mistake (although, by your own admission it is still 100% inerrant): I meant to type 'Clementina' there... so:

So, it is possible to misinterprete the text of the Clementina as an individual, but not as the collective Church (even though the Church as a whole is not infallible), is that what you are claiming?

Defindeser McNut....or however you spell his name....terribly mistaken. He fails to realize Jesus died for all our sins. The Jews didn't kill him...humanity did, because he had to die to save all human kind in his time and in the future......so Senor Speedo...Defense Minister Yako..whatever your name is...you're full of shit. Just thought you'd like to know.

Hermeneutics is left wing garbage.

Yeah, yeah, tell that to such famed left wingers as Dilthey and Heidegger.

Sorry, my mistake (although, by your own admission it is still 100% inerrant): I meant to type 'Clementina' there... so:

So, it is possible to misinterprete the text of the Clementina as an individual, but not as the collective Church (even though the Church as a whole is not infallible), is that what you are claiming?
Obviously anything can be misinterpreted by the wicked. As in the case of the "symbolic interpretation" of Genesis.

Defindeser McNut....or however you spell his name....terribly mistaken. He fails to realize Jesus died for all our sins. The Jews didn't kill him...humanity did, because he had to die to save all human kind in his time and in the future......so Senor Speedo...Defense Minister Yako..whatever your name is...you're full of shit. Just thought you'd like to know.
Such intelligence incarnate... :rolleyes:

Answer me this question....if it is in fact true that the pope is infallible in his interpretation of scripture...how are you describing the pope as an evil pole that has sold the catholic church to libralism? Is he not still the pope? You contradict yourself.

Nazinoobs (tm) for when you need a candy that touches you like no other.

Yeah, yeah, tell that to such famed left wingers as Dilthey and Heidegger.

As I said, a worthless study. I have no doubt that 500 years ago astrology was equaly esteemed. Nevertheless, hermenuetics is pointless relativism.

Allow me to inquire further....because of Jesus, do you believe you are free from the guilt of sin?

Obviously anything can be misinterpreted by the wicked. As in the case of the "symbolic interpretation" of Genesis.

Would you do me a favour and point me in the direction of the statement by a Pope where infallibilty was invoked and "symbolic interpretation" of Genesis was declared to be a misinterpretation?

As I said, a worthless study. I have no doubt that 500 years ago astrology was equaly esteemed. Nevertheless, hermenuetics is pointless relativism.


The idea that the way in which words are used changes over time is 'pointless relativism'?