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Better for Old People to Kill Themselves Than Be A Nuisance, Lawmaker Says
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
December 14, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - A prominent British lawmaker has triggered an outcry by implying that elderly and very ill people should not only have the right, but the obligation to kill themselves rather than become a nuisance. The furor erupted as British lawmakers prepared to vote on a bill that critics worry could be used to sanction the killing of patients in a vegetative state.

Full text: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200412/CUL20041214a.html

That reminds me of a Star Trek episode.

Stupid old people. I say we make a law that all people over the age of 70 be sent to the "Eternal Convalescent Home."

I...umm...think that they should be given the option, but...not that... On a related note, I think that people with terminal diseases and the like should be able to use any substance they want on their bodies. At least things like marijuana, especially if they are in great pain.

Edit:
This reminds me a whole lot of The Giver by Lois Lowry.

Wouldn't that option be called "suicide"?

More and more the British of today sound like they Soviets of last century.

So when do we start eating them?

Bonus points to whoever gets that first.

So Mary doesn`t want to be a burden. Good, she can then off herself. However, she shouldn`t force that option on others.

Euthanasia should always be voluntary.

Better for Old People to Kill Themselves Than Be A Nuisance, Lawmaker Says
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
December 14, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - A prominent British lawmaker has triggered an outcry by implying that elderly and very ill people should not only have the right, but the obligation to kill themselves rather than become a nuisance. The furor erupted as British lawmakers prepared to vote on a bill that critics worry could be used to sanction the killing of patients in a vegetative state.

Full text: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200412/CUL20041214a.html

And there you have the biggest danger of allowing Doctor-Assisted Suicide. The freedom to kill yourself can become the pressure to kill yourself.

I still tentatively support D.A.S., but there must be EXTREME safeguards against abuse. If healthcare was socialized it wouldn't be a concern, but with private healthcare there is a very real danger of abuse.

So when do we start eating them?

Bonus points to whoever gets that first.
At least by 2015. My ticket's on '07, though!

I dunno, I'd guess '22 myself.

HINT HINT :p

so your offing yourself pretty soon eutrusca? your pretty old supposedly

This is Carlin-reminiscient.

2015:
President Hillary Clinton establishes the 'Old people for oil' program to the Middle East

So when do we start eating them?

Bonus points to whoever gets that first.

"It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people."

Better for Old People to Kill Themselves Than Be A Nuisance, Lawmaker Says
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
December 14, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - A prominent British lawmaker has triggered an outcry by implying that elderly and very ill people should not only have the right, but the obligation to kill themselves rather than become a nuisance. The furor erupted as British lawmakers prepared to vote on a bill that critics worry could be used to sanction the killing of patients in a vegetative state.

Full text: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200412/CUL20041214a.html

That lawmaker is a genius and I completely agree with the man.

"Hope I die before I get old"- my generation

so your offing yourself pretty soon eutrusca? your pretty old supposedly

You wish! LOL!

You're a lot more cynical than I am old. :)

That reminds me of a Star Trek episode.
i remember that episode!

it was when that one scientist guy was looking for a way to save their planet, but he hit 60 and had to die. i didn't think it was a dependance thing, wasn't it a leaving with your dignity thing?

And there you have the biggest danger of allowing Doctor-Assisted Suicide. The freedom to kill yourself can become the pressure to kill yourself.

I still tentatively support D.A.S., but there must be EXTREME safeguards against abuse. If healthcare was socialized it wouldn't be a concern, but with private healthcare there is a very real danger of abuse.
:confused: :confused: :confused:

"Youth, large, lusty, loving—Youth, full of grace, force, fascination.
Do you know that Old Age may come after you with equal grace, force,
fascination?"

Walt Whitman

Obviously noone has ever read or watched Logan's Run. I guess it is off to Carousel for the lot of you.

I think euthinasia should be legal if:
-The doctors attending him do not think he will recover
-The person has stated somewhere, perhaps in their will, that they want the plug pulled in this situation

"It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people."

Ding!

**marks off extra points, hands sheet**

Here ya go! :D

I think euthinasia should be legal if:
-The doctors attending him do not think he will recover
-The person has stated somewhere, perhaps in their will, that they want the plug pulled in this situation

Those reasons are not good. Wills can be "changed," and doctors can be bribed.

Re: "More and more the British of today sound like they Soviets of last century."

Definitely, currently Blunkett is proposing a national identity card, including provisions for making it an offence not to produce it when "requested". There has always been a fascist strain in British politics, which partly explains the resistance to a formal adoption of a constitution with a bill of rights.

Even now you can be stopped and searched at whim, and arrested on trivial grounds based on the "results" of that search .

I can hear it now, the terse "Papieren bitte" barked out by the uniform.... shades of 1933-1945 Germany.