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Aust
14-12-2004, 20:55
..on here a few days ago, about issues such as god and mesurements and things, one of the bloodyest conflicts in modern history rerupted. Over 3.8 million people have died in it before. And now more will...

...the conflict, The Civil War in DRC. yet no one seems to have noticed?

WHY?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1373030,00.html

This artical brought it to my attention and I was amazed no one had brought it up.
Sdaeriji
14-12-2004, 20:59
It's been going on more or less continuously since Mobutu Sese Seko took over Zaire in 1965. It's hard to maintain outrage at something that's been going on for 40 years.
Aust
14-12-2004, 21:01
It's been going on more or less continuously since Mobutu Sese Seko took over Zaire in 1965. It's hard to maintain outrage at something that's been going on for 40 years.
but still the re eruption of it shocks me. I had no idea that it was happening. it's one of the biggest conlicts of all ime, (In losses) but I'd never heard of it!
Cisalpia
14-12-2004, 21:02
It'll end when the sides decide that hiring foreign mercenaries is a silly thing to do. They have not the resources to bring about their own end to the conflicts.
Most likely, it'll end when everyone is dead.
Aust
14-12-2004, 21:03
It'll end when the sides decide that hiring foreign mercenaries is a silly thing to do. They have not the resources to bring about their own end to the conflicts.
Most likely, it'll end when everyone is dead.
I hope it won't.
MuhOre
14-12-2004, 21:10
I wonder what the casualty amount will be this time...

heck i wouldnt be surprised to see if the Congo's will do the same thing to Rwandans given the chance.
Tuesday Heights
14-12-2004, 21:11
The reason nobody knows about the conflict in DRC is because nobody actually takes time to read and watch the news anymore. It's there, if you look for it, you shouldn't have to look, but then again, Americans themselves are too busy in Iraq and Afghanistan to really care what's going on in the rest of the world.
Kharsha
14-12-2004, 21:12
I've known about this for years... my church denomination (the Evangelical Covenant Church) has been in the DRC as a mission field for about sixty years or so, and it's to the point where it is one of the largest Christian denominations in DRC. However, the war has recently spread even to the north of the country, to the point where the missionaries had to leave for the Central African Republic. The DRC is a nation in constant turmoil; it has an ongoing cycle of having a ruler, having a rebel faction who opposes the ruler rise up, having the rebels overthrow the ruler in a violent coup, and then the rebels put in a new ruler, starting the process all over again. It's a part of the world of great concern.
Aust
14-12-2004, 21:13
The reason nobody knows about the conflict in DRC is because nobody actually takes time to read and watch the news anymore. It's there, if you look for it, you shouldn't have to look, but then again, Americans themselves are too busy in Iraq and Afghanistan to really care what's going on in the rest of the world.
I only found it by looking in a newspaper. You shouldn't have to look, which is more important?

Mr Blunketts affair and some rubbish about a visa

or

The bloodyest war in recent history restarting?

Which one gets the front page?
MuhOre
14-12-2004, 21:14
hmmmm, i've got a solution!

Let's let them eat all the terrorists! Then we can end world hunger and end the conflict! :D
Iztatepopotla
14-12-2004, 21:16
...the conflict, The Civil War in DRC. yet no one seems to have noticed?


Yes, it is a crying shame, I know. The conflict (and others) has been going on for years, but it's not until they reach a certain point (like Sudan) when it becomes of interest in developed countries. And still then, if a celebrity gets in trouble it will get bumped out of the collective consciousness.
Aust
14-12-2004, 21:17
I've known about this for years... my church denomination (the Evangelical Covenant Church) has been in the DRC as a mission field for about sixty years or so, and it's to the point where it is one of the largest Christian denominations in DRC. However, the war has recently spread even to the north of the country, to the point where the missionaries had to leave for the Central African Republic. The DRC is a nation in constant turmoil; it has an ongoing cycle of having a ruler, having a rebel faction who opposes the ruler rise up, having the rebels overthrow the ruler in a violent coup, and then the rebels put in a new ruler, starting the process all over again. It's a part of the world of great concern.
I have never heard of that denomination? Is it in Britian?
Sinuhue
14-12-2004, 21:29
Ay, this is so typical...I only heard about it because I set my homepage to a Chilean newspaper. If I relied on Canadian news sources, I would never have known that things have once again flared up in the DRC. Like so many newstories, I guess it wasn't white enough to get attention. While my local channel goes into great detail about a lost quilt or a kitten in a tree, we remain uniformed about issue of much greater importance. Then again, we don't want to depress people or make them feel helpless, so I suppose this censorship is valid. (sarcasm dripping, pooling...)
Sdaeriji
14-12-2004, 21:37
I can remember the year when Laurent Kabila and his rebellion swept across Zaire and eventually led to Seko fleeing to France and dying. It was in my Time Magazine every week.
Consul Augustus
14-12-2004, 21:55
I don't think Congo/Zaïre has ever been a peacefull happy state. When the Belgians where still colonial masters there they completely exploited the country, killing literally hondreds of thousands of people. Not the best basis to build a country on.

In most countries peace and order can be restored, but what can you do if a country has never been peacefull and orderly?
Naughty Bits
15-12-2004, 15:48
the reason why no one but you brought it up?
That tradgic conflict has nothing to do with...
1) the Democrats being at fault,
2) the Republicans being at fault,
3) the Liberals being at fault,
4) the Conservatives being at fault,
5) The Americans being at fault
6) the other countries cannot blame America for that
7) American Superiority
8) American Inferiority
9) Homosexuality
10) Christianity
11) Muslims
12) Mods.

Therefore... it doesn't exsist in these NS Forums.
Demented Hamsters
15-12-2004, 16:15
They have nothing we want or need - therefore the travesty will continue.
Quick! Someone discover a few billion barrels of oil in the DRC!

Actually I think there are diamonds to be found in the DRC, but as long as they are being found and sold/swapped for weapons at bargain prices I don't think DeBoers and anyone else cares how they found. The diamond industry is pretty dispicable when you read up on it. I can't remember which African country (it might be the DRC) it is, but I did read of one where mutilations (including even small children) of having limbs hacked off is fairly common practise in order to force ppl into slavery by rebel forces to mine for diamonds which are sold at next to nothing to buy weapons with to fight the govt forces.
The biggest thing DeBoers is worried about is artificial diamonds forcing down the artificially high price, not that some of their diamonds are covered with blood (metaphorically speaking of course).
Aust
15-12-2004, 19:12
the reason why no one but you brought it up?
That tradgic conflict has nothing to do with...
1) the Democrats being at fault,
2) the Republicans being at fault,
3) the Liberals being at fault,
4) the Conservatives being at fault,
5) The Americans being at fault
6) the other countries cannot blame America for that
7) American Superiority
8) American Inferiority
9) Homosexuality
10) Christianity
11) Muslims
12) Mods.

Therefore... it doesn't exsist in these NS Forums.
Thats pritty much all we talk about.