NationStates Jolt Archive


did hate is reasonable?

Green israel
14-12-2004, 09:21
the earth can't past a second without hate.
hate make war, hate make the life worse, hate is one of the biggest problems!

now do you think hate always had a reasons?
do you think he can had good reasons?
and the poll question: what is the worst reason for hate?
Eichen
14-12-2004, 09:25
I like the fact that you're trying so hard to learn the english language.
I hate the fact that you'll probably catch a lot of heat for it or be ignored.
Kryozerkia
14-12-2004, 09:26
I say most of the above until it becomes personal...
Phaiakia
14-12-2004, 09:29
I'd say there are no good reasons

But I just wanted to put in my two cents and say that hate itself isn't bad. It's what is done with hate that can be bad.
Norticlass
14-12-2004, 09:30
the worset reason for hate would be... the hate you get when you blow your friend into 1000000's of tiny peices on halo and get a slap for it
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 09:31
I'd say it's a toss-up between the first two. The others are fucked up reasons to hate someone too, but no one even gets any say in what their race or country of origin is.
Shaed
14-12-2004, 09:52
'Other'

Namely, when someone's political opinions start infringing on my personal rights (stay the hell away from my BC pills you bastards), or personal reasons (stay the hell away from the boyfriend I don't currently have, you bastards).

But then, I don't do horrible things with my hate. I just keep it to myself and seethe. Mmmm, seethage.
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 10:07
I don't hate. I lose patience with people-and that can be pretty damn difficult as it is-but I do not hate.
Norticlass
14-12-2004, 10:12
sometimes there is a reason for hate
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 10:23
sometimes there is a reason for hate

Never, never, never.
St Heliers
14-12-2004, 10:23
ya theres reason for h8, like if people kill ur family based on sumthing like race, opinions etc
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:23
Never, never, never.
I suppose that depends on just how you define hate.
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 10:25
ya theres reason for h8, like if people kill ur family based on sumthing like race, opinions etc

OMGWTF liek i was w/ ths l33thaxx0r and he was all leik 'dude this guy killed my family and im mad and i really wanna kill him back and liek u know' and i wa like wtf man thas messed up.
Anger and Mortality
14-12-2004, 10:25
I said there is no good reason for hate. Let me clarify: there is no good reason for hatred towards a person or several persons. because hate implys that whomever you are directing your vehement dislike to is of an equal or greater intelligence. I feel that hatred causes stupidity and vice versa. I feel that stupidity is what causes war and evil. If someone is a person of intelligence, he might dislike very much or abhor a person but he should not hate that person. He may detest the company of a person and avoid that person but he should not hate that person.

People are bred to hate and I don't like this fact. I detest this fact. I also believe I can change this fact by teaching my children, when I have some, not to hate anyone.
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:25
OMGWTF liek i was w/ ths l33thaxx0r and he was all leik 'dude this guy killed my family and im mad and i really wanna kill him back and liek u know' and i wa like wtf man thas messed up.
LOL, Internet!
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:27
because hate implys that whomever you are directing your vehement dislike to is of an equal or greater intelligence.
'Fraid I don't quite get your meaning. Could you please clarify this (sorry, it might have something to do with the fact that it's 3:30 in the morning)?
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 10:28
LOL, Internet!

GOD, I wish I still had that pic xD
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:29
GOD, I wish I still had that pic xD
Which one? Galliam showed me a few. Or is there some original one that spawned the others?
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 10:30
Which one? Galliam showed me a few. Or is there some original one that spawned the others?

The one I knew of had this guy laughing, with HA on both sides and i'm using the internet!" below in really big print :p
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:33
The one I knew of had this guy laughing, with HA on both sides and i'm using the internet!" below in really big print :p
Oh. I'm talking about different ones. Unfortunately, I don't think I still have any of them. But one of them (they're all done in MSpaint) has a stroller rolling down a hill toward some spikes, and this woman screaming "My baby!" and some guy standing there saying, "LOL, Internet!" Good stuff. Galliam and I got a 2 day forum ban a while back for making about 40 posts in the "LOL, *whatever*!" format. :D
Anger and Mortality
14-12-2004, 10:35
Sorry, I meant that whomever you might hate is probably not of an intelligence equal to yours. I find that if I strongly dislike a person, it is because he cannot comprehend reason and is therefore not as intelligent as me. He, on the other hand will often hate me because he lacks the mental capacity needed to realize that I have a view point which I have researched and can back up.

I say this, speaking only of the people who do not research their opinions and do not wish to be flamed. I respect other people's opinions and ask only that they be able to back these opinions up with some reason. If a person cannot do this, he is not worthy of anything more than great dislike. And if a person is worthy of hate, he is also worthy of my respect, which automatically negates my hatred of him, transferring the hatred into the "dislike" department instead.

And it's only 2:35 here. :P
Shaed
14-12-2004, 10:38
Oh. I'm talking about different ones. Unfortunately, I don't think I still have any of them. But one of them (they're all done in MSpaint) has a stroller rolling down a hill toward some spikes, and this woman screaming "My baby!" and some guy standing there saying, "LOL, Internet!" Good stuff. Galliam and I got a 2 day forum ban a while back for making about 40 posts in the "LOL, *whatever*!" format. :D

Gah, that was my fault... I really, honestly only wanted to know if it qualified as spam... stupid... me, I guess...

Bah.
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:43
Gah, that was my fault... I really, honestly only wanted to know if it qualified as spam... stupid... me, I guess...

Bah.
Yeah. All your fault. Damn you!

Besides, spam is delicious!
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 10:45
Gah, that was my fault... I really, honestly only wanted to know if it qualified as spam... stupid... me, I guess...

Bah.

Bad Shaed :p

We need a Funny Pictures part of the forum. 'Cause that would be awesome :D
Shaed
14-12-2004, 10:50
Bad Shaed :p

We need a Funny Pictures part of the forum. 'Cause that would be awesome :D

Yep, bad Shaed. I should be punished... just give me a second to go find my handcuffs...


:p :D
Incenjucarania
14-12-2004, 10:51
Hate based on something someone can't control is the most idiotic. Gender, preference, sex, race, physical features, background, luck, origin, etc.

Hate based on philosophy/beliefs that aren't acted upon meaningfully is wasteful.

Hate based on philosophy/beliefs that ARE acted upon meaningfully can be logical, but is still usually wasteful.

The only time hate is truly useful is when it inspires you to action against someone who is objectively harmful, like someone who breaks in to your house trying to kill your kids, and even then, it should just be an extension of the protective urges.
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:53
Yep, bad Shaed. I should be punished... just give me a second to go find my handcuffs...


:p :D
I got the paddle here, so whenever you're ready...
Eichen
14-12-2004, 10:56
Bad Shaed :p

We need a Funny Pictures part of the forum. 'Cause that would be awesome :D
I love those. Too bad I don't think it would go over well with the mods, would it?
Roachsylvania
14-12-2004, 10:58
I love those. Too bad I don't think it would go over well with the mods, would it?
Probably not, they're a bunch of fun-Nazis.
Shaed
14-12-2004, 11:02
I love those. Too bad I don't think it would go over well with the mods, would it?

Maybe if we offer to let them in on it... after all, they're in an ideal position to mete out punishments, are they not? All they need are the paddles and/or whips and/or other impliments. And I know I wouldn't be complaining :p
Shaed
14-12-2004, 11:09
Probably not, they're a bunch of fun-Nazis.

Awww, no they aren't.

...

Well, ok, maybe Myrth is... and, like...

...

Hmm... I'm fighting a losing battle, aren't I? Damn.
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 11:18
Pah, they're just doing their job as they see fit. I know I was deservingly deleted once :p.

But really, a Spam forum would be teh roxx0rz...
Harlesburg
14-12-2004, 11:27
Nothing wrong with Hate
Hate because of Politics is weak
Shaed
14-12-2004, 11:39
Pah, they're just doing their job as they see fit. I know I was deservingly deleted once :p.

But really, a Spam forum would be teh roxx0rz...

Yeah... they say we should just go to the normal Jolt spam forum but... it's all... scary and stuff... full of crazy, non-NS people.

Edit: There's no reason to pah... unless you somehow missed it, I'm a Myrth-fan-girl, so that mention was all in jest, and I honestly like most of the other mods I've seen around also.
Pure Metal
14-12-2004, 11:44
Hate's bad, mmkay?
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 11:46
Yeah... they say we should just go to the normal Jolt spam forum but... it's all... scary and stuff... full of crazy, non-NS people.

Edit: There's no reason to pah... unless you somehow missed it, I'm a Myrth-fan-girl, so that mention was all in jest, and I honestly like most of the other mods I've seen around also.

Oh, I just pah and bah regularly, no matter what's being said :p
Shaed
14-12-2004, 11:49
Oh, I just pah and bah regularly, no matter what's being said :p

Ah, alrighty then. Heh, silly Goed. Do you meh and feh also, or are you only an '-ah' fan?
Goed Twee
14-12-2004, 11:59
Ah, alrighty then. Heh, silly Goed. Do you meh and feh also, or are you only an '-ah' fan?

Oh, those are quite often as well. My mouth likes to keep busy even when it shouldn't be :p




...Ok, that sounds weird o_O
Matalatataka
14-12-2004, 12:50
I hate people who abuse animals and those who are weaker than them. Say what you will, but these individuals (can't bring myself to call 'em people) make this world a messed up place. I suppose in a sense, we have to have the bad to make the good mean something, but I still hate 'em.

On a lighter note, Goed Twee and Shaed - your posts kick ass! Thanks for the humor (and great visuals!).
Kryogenerica
14-12-2004, 13:41
I don't tend to hate. Not because I think there is anything inherently wrong in hating someone/something, but because I see it as a waste of energy.

As far as I am concerned, paedophiles should be wiped off the face of the planet and I would readily take the job if it was required but I don't think I would say I hate them as such. I see them as something that needs to be eradicated, sort of like a bacterial infection (which I would also kill but do not hate) that needs to be excised as efficiently as possible.

If anyone ever hurt my kids, I would hate them, I suppose. But only until I found them, after which I would be very busy for a while and then I would have to refer to the body disposal thread...