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They're JUST leaders...why take it seriously?

Terran Individualists
14-12-2004, 02:20
this is a preclaimer --
the United nations is an organization. look at it one way or another, they are what they are. some people are going to look at this statement and respond with the wrong idea. that'll be embarassing. maybe don't do it eh?


from the offices of dr vali jones, Independent Terran Commonwealth

American Whispers [13 Dec 2004|07:33pm]
the point of this article is simple...despite the saber rattling coming from both North Korean and United States military and adminsitrative sectors -- and despite their differing appearances, what it comes down to is that George W. Bush and Kim Jong-il only appear to be rivals - o different in any meaningful way. What's more deeply true -- if not immediately apparent -- is that they are bookends, not even pepper and salt -- both salt shakers -- both almost exactly alike, lacking in differences so much that if, as is the fashion in swork places, world leaders had a swap jobs day, Jong - Il would do well in the united states and bush would do well in n. korea. they are both almost the same.

for this trick i will need: you attention and: about three minutes.

but it's nothing so simple as saying (wherever it says Jong - Il in the forthcoming feed substitute the name bush -- other players are involved. is there an unseen role to laura bush's position as first lady? former first lady hilary rodham clinton (d-ny) was influential as a first lady and a partner, unorthodox in inhibition in a way comparable to other famous presidential american wives who played active roles --

but then her role as an influencer of the role of women in American politics creates a new pattern altogether feminism would be rash and way ahead of itself to claim victory in the united states in any sense of the world and realists coming from a feminist perspective would agree. the glass ceiling is still in place, the famous pay differential -- and hilary clinto in several heartbeats away from the highest office in the land. condoleeza rice, a woman of slave ancestry is even closer than she -- but no one could argue that feminism in america has "succeeded" for very long before being proved wrong -- as millions of american women suffering from gender disparities could attest to. "feminism victorious? gimme a break!"

we can imagine millionss of economically disenfrachized females -- not to mention american female people who are yet to reach the age of majority -- staring bleakly at their options as women entering the world of work.

so think on that factor as one nuance as you campare in your mind the differences between the American and korean leaders. also of note were the "fighting words"that John Kerry, democratic hopeful, used in his bid for the white house in the first presidential debate in regard to the U. S. N. Korea realtionship.

both kerry and Bush used strong words of agression to describe the american relationship with china --

which was a joke, a poor joke, or better said an outright lie meant to vcreate unecessary tenstion among the voting public. kerry's staments of aggression if necessary -- or something -- and BVush'e famous "axis of evil" statmenet were the same as the scene cnn wathers remeber with saddam hussein pumping a shotgun with one hand. all those actions of those political bigwigs were the sort of things weak leaders do to gain support when they are lacking in charisma or compelling political talk. the united states and korea are no threat to each other. of course idiots who like war for war's sake would disagree.

but savvy american voters and non voting observers understand that politicians "fib' to get what they want -- whether it is offices or war for profit. that's the bottom line of the bottom line.

eisenhower warned americans in a very famous speech about the deceptive capibility of the military - industrial complex -- to say that Bush, a representative of military - industrial and corporate interests -- would say anything he damn well pleased to create the ILLUSION of a need for wabucks to be printed out is not slander or harsh accusation -- and you know it, dem,ocrat OR republican. it;s just being real -- being real as far as one who considers thesituation of halliburton and "vice" president richard "tricky dick" cheney.

but that is another story...

there are so many similatrities tbetween kin jong - il and george w. bush that they could almost be said to be on the same team --

but see for yourself.

who would want either of theri jobs? time consuming, stressful and high profile. most sane people would r4ather have their free time and their privacy asured than take on the taxing (!) role of international military and business leader -- as kim jong - il and george w. bush play. einsenhower once again comes to mind -- because when he warned us about the military industrial complex he didn't say look out for Korea or Russia or japan or France -- he said "the milirtary industrail complex. in this time when, despite knowing that globalism a Worle dTrade alliance between corporate power brokers and a world order of finance aind military working internationally to plolice the world -- no one DID anything effective to stop it -- we might as well realise that both Jong-Il and Bush are reional Governors (as americans have known of Bush for some time and objectively, if arguably.

both are military strongmen with weapons of mass destruction set to be deployed.
both put the interests of their political careers and investments before the nees of their constituency -- it has been proven in both cases as koreans starved while Jong Il planned, as american homelessnes was epidemic while Bush hunted for WMD that never showed up.


source: Guardian Unlimited
North Korea dispatch
Korean whispers

Jonathan Watts sorts through the speculation to assess recent moves within the North Korean government

Monday December 13, 2004

The North Korean rumour mill has been working overtime in the past week after reports that Kim Jong-il has purged his brother-in-law and political second-in-command amid a wave of defections by senior government and military officials.

As is often the case with the world's most reclusive nation, most of the reports are unconfirmed, fuzzy and originate from sources with a vested interest in bringing down Kim's administration. But they are unusually widespread and persistent.

Their timing also coincides with testimony from several Pyongyang residents about a security clampdown in the North Korean capital, and a rare acknowledgement from Chinese policymakers about high-level defections.

According to the South Korean media, Chang Sung Taek - who was tipped as a possible successor to Kim - has been removed from public life and may have been placed under house arrest. The rumours about his political demise have been circulating for more than a year, during which time he has not been seen in the usual line-ups of state leaders at public events.

Several news organisations say the reports were confirmed by a senior intelligence official last month at a closed-door session of a parliamentary committee in Seoul.

The dismissal suggests a major realignment within the North Korean hierarchy. Chang is the husband of Kim Kong-hui - the sister of the 'Great Leader' - and had previously been seen as a stalwart supporter of the regime. As head of the Organisation and Guidelines Bureau of the ruling Workers' party, his political influence was second only to Kim's. Chang also had strong ties to the military through his two brothers, one of whom was the general in charge of security for Pyongyang.
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This power base - initially a source of support for Kim - may have become a threat, particularly after Chang was praised by prominent defectors and South Korean magazines as a palatable alternative to the current leader.

Analysts say Chang may also have been removed to clear the way for one of Kim's sons to take power. The apparent favourite is 23-year-old Kim Jong-chul, who was recently appointed head of the propaganda department - the same post given to Kim when he was being groomed for leadership by his father.

It is difficult, however, to distinguish between calculated guesses and wild speculation. A few weeks ago, stock markets in Tokyo and Seoul jumped at reports that Kim had been shot in the head during a coup. He surfaced to quash these rumours a few days later.

Soon after, the removal of Kim's portraits from several prominent locations in Pyongyang prompted more talk of his political demise, but it seems just as likely that the pictures were removed as part of a softening of Kim's cult of personality, which is much ridiculed in the outside world, or simply for refurbishment.

Adding to the mystery, one of Japan's most influential lawmakers Shinzo Abe - formerly prime minister Junichiro Koizumi's right-hand man - said Tokyo should prepare for instability in North Korea. "I think we should consider the possibility of regime change taking place," he told reporters.

Leading Chinese academics have also been unusually open in revealing the unpopularity of the regime. Zhao Huji, one of China's leading North Korean experts and a researcher at the elite Communist Party School, said generals and many senior cadres were fleeing to China because they were unhappy with Kim's leadership style.

"Some fear arrests. Many don't agree with what the regime is doing and are unable to accept its method of rule. They can't change the situation, so they run," he told the AFP news agency.

North Korea denied speculation about defections and power struggles yesterday. Its state-run news agency said this was a form of psychological warfare by the US.

But Pyongyang-based diplomats and aid workers say security in the capital has been tightened since summer. The number of checkpoints has increased on the streets, ID checks have become more commonplace and foreigners face tighter restrictions on their movements. New laws have also been introduced that increase the penalties for criticising the government or possessing banned South Korean books and videos.

Analysts are divided about whether this heightened activity is a sign of Kim's weakness or strength. Apart from the South Korean Christian groups that are encouraging refugees to flee the country, no one is predicting an imminent change of power, but everyone believes something unusual is going on.

Exactly what remains a mystery. The only certainty is that Kim has not lost the knack of leaving the outside world utterly flummoxed.

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understand that regardles sof regional affiliation -- a political strongman is a political strongman. they flex muscle rattle sabers and using fighting words because they lack the ilntellectual muscle and philosophical foundation in truth and understanding to lead in any other way other than generating resentment by overt and subtle deception, intimidation and strongman tactcis.

a deeper statement might be that due to the connection to iinternational socialist conspiacy -- of George W. via his famous grandfather, prescott -- and Kim by virtue of his being a leader of a leftist military state -- that even though both mirror each other -- both also could be replaced by dna-generated clones fo Stalin.

it is the 21st century. such things are all too within the realm of feasibility now. it's always time to wake up and smell the world polity lying.

doctor_jones@trinary.deadjournal.org
Frisbeeteria
14-12-2004, 02:21
You need to take this to the General forum. This is not NationStates business, and doesn't belong in the UN forum.