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First Hagel, now McCain: No confidence in Rumsfeld

Incertonia
14-12-2004, 01:52
I started a thread last night that detailed Senator Chuck Hagel's vote of no-confidence in Defense Seceretary Don Rumsfeld. It's titled "Hagel throws Rumsfeld under the bus" or something like that.

Well, add John McCain to the list. Mccain's never one to be out of the spotlight for long, and today he weighed in on Rummy during an interview with the AP. Clicky (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/mccain_interview&e=2&ncid=)

PHOENIX - U.S. Sen. John McCain said Monday that he has "no confidence" in Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, citing Rumsfeld's handling of the war in Iraq and the failure to send more troops.

McCain, speaking to The Associated Press in an hourlong interview, said his comments were not a call for Rumsfeld's resignation, explaining that President Bush "can have the team that he wants around him."

Asked about his confidence in the secretary's leadership, McCain recalled fielding a similar question a couple weeks ago.

"I said no. My answer is still no. No confidence," McCain said.
I feel about McCain the way I feel about Hagel--too conservative for my taste generally speaking, but consistently solid on this issue. I might have voted for McCain in the past, but after his support of Bush in this last election after what Bush did to him in 2000, I have to question his political backbone a bit. Some shit you just don't forgive.

But again--the point is this. Rumsfeld is incompetent, and people of stature in his own party are saying it loudly, and yet he's the one that Bush is hanging with most of all from his first Cabinet. What does that say about Bush's judgment?
Skapedroe
14-12-2004, 02:03
its bad enought that Bush forced us to waste money and lives in Iraq in the first place but its totally inexcusable that hes doing such a poor job of it that its costing us far more then it needs to in lives and money. I personally believe the troops should be allowed to lynch Rumsfeld--Rumsfeld is the one doing all the wrong things and our soldiers are the only ones paying for this rotton old mans arrogant senility
Incertonia
14-12-2004, 02:33
Just like last night. Can't Rummy get any love?
Chess Squares
14-12-2004, 02:47
Just like last night. Can't Rummy get any love?
no because hes old bald and a sadistic bastard
Slap Happy Lunatics
14-12-2004, 02:55
no because hes old bald and a sadistic bastard
hey Chess, back that up a bit. You will hopefully also be old one day and maybe even bald and, to some at least, a bastard (if you aren't, you're just not trying).

Sadistic? Perhaps but he's a psycho bastard alright. I just loved the roasting he got from called up reservists last week. Serves him right.
Cannot think of a name
14-12-2004, 02:59
hey Chess, back that up a bit. You will hopefully also be old one day and maybe even bald and, to some at least, a bastard (if you aren't, you're just not trying).

Sadistic? Perhaps but he's a psycho bastard alright. I just loved the roasting he got from called up reservists last week. Serves him right.
Ah, if only that had happend over a month ago.....though it probably wouldn't have mattered.....
Skapedroe
14-12-2004, 03:41
I think Rummy was using the prisoner abuse tapes as porno
Stroudiztan
14-12-2004, 03:58
I'd like to see a biography of him done called "Hard On for War"
Slap Happy Lunatics
14-12-2004, 04:46
Ah, if only that had happend over a month ago.....though it probably wouldn't have mattered.....
"For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are those 'It might have been.'" - John Greenleaf Whittier :( :(
Skapedroe
14-12-2004, 04:56
I'd like to see a biography of him done called "Hard On for War"
I remember readin how rummys german relatives disowned him
New Halcyonia
14-12-2004, 05:24
But again--the point is this. Rumsfeld is incompetent, and people of stature in his own party are saying it loudly, and yet he's the one that Bush is hanging with most of all from his first Cabinet. What does that say about Bush's judgment?

With regard to Cabinet reshuffling (or lack thereof), it appears that Bush's litmus test has to do with "sticking it to the liberals".
Incertonia
14-12-2004, 06:19
With regard to Cabinet reshuffling (or lack thereof), it appears that Bush's litmus test has to do with "sticking it to the liberals".
To me it seems more like "let's keep the people who say I'm great and toss anyone who ever dared question what the voice in my head who tells me he's Jesus tells me what to do."
BLARGistania
14-12-2004, 06:22
"You go to war with the army you have, not the army you want"

Well, maybe the first step is to build the army you want. Then go to war. But wait, that would make sense.


Good for McCain, we need people to tell Rumsfeld hes an incompetent and I don't yet have enough political power to do so.
Saipea
14-12-2004, 07:08
I <3 McCain