NationStates Jolt Archive

Just wondering lately and I would like to get some outside opinons.

No, I don't think it exists. It's just a myth made up to scare people.

Yes- absolutely.

There is nothing less absolute than that, true.

Yes- absolutely.

Right on! Might makes right! Violence is god!

No, I don't think it exists. It's just a myth made up to scare people.
Hehehhe...I was going to say the same... I love it when people say, "I don't believe in...." How about, I do not support the death penalty?

Right on! Might makes right! Violence is god!

So you're telling me that if some bastard killed a bunch of kids, raped a bunch of women, etc., that he should be allowed to live?

I do believe in the death penalty. I believe in the golden rule. Do unto others, as you want others to do unto you. This means that if you kill somebody, you WANT to be killed.

Yes, i believe it is a viable punishment.

So you're telling me that if some bastard killed a bunch of kids, raped a bunch of women, etc., that he should be allowed to live?
Yes.

(Followed by: "What if it was your son, your daughter, your wife?")

Yes, still be allowed to live. Though I wouldn't want to have to make that choice then.

I do believe in the death penalty. I believe in the golden rule. Do unto others, as you want others to do unto you. This means that if you kill somebody, you WANT to be killed.
So executioners want to be killed?

I do believe in the death penalty. I believe in the golden rule. Do unto others, as you want others to do unto you. This means that if you kill somebody, you WANT to be killed.
Here lies logic, who died in a tragic accident on Grays Hill.

I support it 100%... though it needs to be more persuasive. Hangings are much more effective than lethal injection.

I really think that it depends on the circumstances. In any case, the death penalty should be used in moderation.

So executioners want to be killed?

No, there is an exception for the executioners. They are doing their civic duty by killing the sick bastards that kill other people.

In any case, the death penalty should be used in moderation.
lol, are you going to half kill them then? :p

No, I dont believe in the death penalty. Killing a crimminal is giving them the easy way out, life in prison without parole is a better punishment. that way, they have to rot in prison for the rest of their lives, instead of being killed and getting an easy way out.

-Penguin

I like the death penalty.
It isn't about the golden rule, and it isn't about setting an example to reduce crime.
It's this: if you do something so horrific that it is a crime against the entirety of the species into which you were born then you deserve to die.

I believe criminals' punishments should match their crimes. Example: if a criminal shoots a man seven times, the criminal should be shot seven times, in the exact same places the man was shot.

lol, are you going to half kill them then? :p


-snorts- Of course not. I don't think that the death penalty should be used for every single murderer or every single rapist, though.

No, I dont believe in the death penalty. Killing a crimminal is giving them the easy way out, life in prison without parole is a better punishment. that way, they have to rot in prison for the rest of their lives, instead of being killed and getting an easy way out.

-Penguin

Yeah, but think of all the money it costs paying for them while they're alive. They should just be killed as soon as they're convicted and be done with it.

So you're telling me that if some bastard killed a bunch of kids, raped a bunch of women, etc., that he should be allowed to live?

Why does the government have the right to kill? Governments kill civilians all the time, why should they get off the hook?

I believe in death, but not as a penalty. To get rid of them maybe, but not as a punishment.

Why does the government have the right to kill? Governments kill civilians all the time, why should they get off the hook?

The answer to that is obvious. Officials that intentionally kill civilians - yes, outside of civilians who committed crimes so horrible that they should be killed, and it has been proven that they did so - should not be excused from the fact that they killed civilians because they're officials.

Why does the government have the right to kill? Governments kill civilians all the time, why should they get off the hook?

Do you think relatives of the victim(s) should be allowed to kill the criminal?

No, there is an exception for the executioners. They are doing their civic duty by killing the sick bastards that kill other people.
The military kills civilians, yet I wouldn't exactly consider civilians "sick bastards".

The answer to that is obvious. Officials that intentionally kill civilians - yes, outside of civilians who committed crimes so horrible that they should be killed, and it has been proven that they did so - should not be excused from the fact that they killed civilians because they're officials.
Although I'm against capital punishment, I'll take your idea and run with it.
The state has the monopoly on "legitimate use of force" in our society and as such gets away with a lot more than is acceptable to the majority of people. The reality is, "officials" or rather, people acting for the state are oten excused for their actions. I maen, come on, the military tries itself? WTF?

I believe criminals' punishments should match their crimes. Example: if a criminal shoots a man seven times, the criminal should be shot seven times, in the exact same places the man was shot.

That would be nice, and a good deterrent too. Though I beleive we should execute more people, not just murderers. Executing rapists, child molesters, treasonous vermin, robbers, carjackers, and other violent criminals should be executed.

That would be nice, and a good deterrent too. Though I beleive we should execute more people, not just murderers. Executing rapists, child molesters, treasonous vermin, robbers, carjackers, and other violent criminals should be executed.

I agree.

The military kills civilians, yet I wouldn't exactly consider civilians "sick bastards".

That made no since. The civilians would only be sick bastards if they killed somebody. Anybody that kills another human being is a sick bastard, unless its an act of war.

At least in the Middle East they just take your hand...

*whistles tune to Highway To Hell*

That made no since. The civilians would only be sick bastards if they killed somebody. Anybody that kills another human being is a sick bastard, unless its an act of war.

I love the hypocrisy. "Murder is wrong! Unless it's good!"

I love the hypocrisy. "Murder is wrong! Unless it's good!"

I never said that.

So you're telling me that if some bastard killed a bunch of kids, raped a bunch of women, etc., that he should be allowed to live?
Hell no!!! Bush deffinatly deserves the chair.

Hell no!!! Bush deffinatly deserves the chair.

Bush raped women?

:confused:

Hell no!!! Bush deffinatly deserves the chair.

What has Bush done to deserve the death penalty?

No. I can't support a legal death penalty. I know miscarriages of justice occur, however rarely, and I can't support putting an innocent person to death because the court has decided the person guilty.

However, if someone's trying to kill you and you have a weapon handy, that's another matter entirely. I think if someone intends to take your life you are perfectly justified in using whatever means are available to stop them. If that results in their injury, disfigurement or death, well they shouldn't have tried to kill someone.

Bush raped women?

:confused:
I'm sure he meant “bush raped men.”

Unless the bush in question belongs to a lesbian.

No, there is an exception for the executioners. They are doing their civic duty by killing the sick bastards that kill other people.
Absolutes have no exceptions.

What has Bush done to deserve the death penalty?
Oh I don't know. Helped spread Islamic fundamentalist views around the world. Invaded a country for no reason other then his ego under the shroud of lies. Which got some 100,000+ civilians over there six feet under. Isn't that enough?

Bush raped women?

:confused:
That maybe not. But the other things I quoted.

That maybe not. But the other things I quoted.

True.

No, there is an exception for the executioners. They are doing their civic duty by killing the sick bastards that kill other people.

How do you define a 'sick bastard'? And what if the original murder's sole motive was that their victim was one of these sick bastards?

after talking to Sr. Helen Prejean for a while (an opportunity that I am so grateful to have had)... Its hard to see a good reason for the death penalty. A great resource on this is Dead Man Walking (a book by Sr. Helen, and which starred Susan Sarandon... who I also talked about the death penalty with... and Martin Sheen, but thats just OT)

I dunno. If you have DOUBTS, try hprejean@aol.com
she'll probably be willing to talk

Do you think death penalty is a good punishment? think about the terrorists that are willing to die for their cause, do you think they fear the death penalty? think about those who are inocent and are killed for a crime they did not commit... this are only two examples against the death penalty there are many more of them

Do you think death penalty is a good punishment? think about the terrorists that are willing to die for their cause, do you think they fear the death penalty? think about those who are inocent and are killed for a crime they did not commit... this are only two examples against the death penalty there are many more of them

They will fear it, if you execute them by drowning them in pig lard.

They will fear it, if you execute them by drowning them in pig lard.

Lol! :D

The death penalty should be abolished, but measures to deter violent crimes should be imlemented in it's place. Why should our taxes go to keep some guy on death row for 25 years, awaiting appeal after appeal, enjoying color television, decent food and clean water society pays for? Let's face it, many in poverty wish they had it this good.
For violent criminals, they should serve out their sentences in barebones prisons with almost no funding. Little guarded communities unto themselves. You get a little shithole to reside in. You and the other inmates can either grow your own food or starve. Your choice. Clean water? Filter it through your sheet. Medicine and dental care ... don't think so. Too many already live without these things who are decent citizens. Conjugal visits? That's what your cellmate is for. No more passing on these gene pools anymore.
A life of relative comfort followed by a humane euthenasia isn't a deterrent.
That's what we do to Fido when he's old.
Sounds more like a reward to a lot of people in worse situations who've done nothing violently criminal.
Supporters of the death penalty sound a bit too Liberal, even for myself.

The death penalty should be abolished, but measures to deter violent crimes should be imlemented in it's place. Why should our taxes go to keep some guy on death row for 25 years, awaiting appeal after appeal, enjoying color television, decent food and clean water society pays for? Let's face it, many in poverty wish they had it this good.
For violent criminals, they should serve out their sentences in barebones prisons with almost no funding. Little guarded communities unto themselves. You get a little shithole to reside in. You and the other inmates can either grow your own food or starve. Your choice. Clean water? Filter it through your sheet. Medicine and dental care ... don't think so. Too many already live without these things who are decent citizens. Conjugal visits? That's what your cellmate is for. No more passing on these gene pools anymore.
A life of relative comfort followed by a humane euthenasia isn't a deterrent.
That's what we do to Fido when he's old.
Sounds more like a reward to a lot of people in worse situations who've done nothing violently criminal.
Supporters of the death penalty sound a bit too Liberal, even for myself.


Cruel and Unsual Punishment where we we be without you?

Second, you can't say support of gay actions via cell mate. It takes away any respect going for you.

But some people are too extreme to reason with...

If violent measures to prevent violent crimes are so good why does Portugal have less violent crimes for habitant than the united states where there is death penalty, and where the criminals are treated worse than in other civilized countries?

hell no

another bloody american idea

I dunno, to me it's kind of a mixed bag. I see it as, either way, you end up dead, but with a life sentence, you spend a lot more time behind bars, so one could argue it's greater punishment.

-NO because = It is too expensive and does not work. A criminal is not a criminal because he thinks he will get caught, but because he thinks he will get away with it. It will not intimidate a desperate person. And almost all who get the death penalty are poor/black/stupid and did not get enughf good legal advice, which most of us can afford. Ofcause you get to fry a ****** occationaly :rolleyes: "Sacm"!

-It is a easy stupid solution for stupid people. But ofcause no civilized country got the death penalty :)

-Look at scandinavia...

Harry "the Bastard" (English is not my native language)