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Would you attend a gay rights rally?

Kramers Intern
12-12-2004, 18:30
The question is simple if you believe in gay marriage would you attend a rally even if you werent gay?

Its just rediculous, for the past 250 years millions of immigrants have flocked to the US to have freedom, it was the land of the free and the land of opportunity. Now with Bush in office he wants to make it the land of Corperations, so the question is do you believe in gay rights, but going in even deeper, do you believe in America? I believe in America, and my coice was the third one down.
Fimble loving peoples
12-12-2004, 18:33
Hell yeah. I like all kinds of rally. The best ones are the ones which end with a riot.
Kanabia
12-12-2004, 18:35
Nah. Though I support their cause, It would make no difference if I went. They're vocal enough.
Comandante
12-12-2004, 18:40
Considering that I've been to a bunch, yeah, I would definitely attend another.
Cam III
12-12-2004, 18:41
Hell yeah. I like all kinds of rally. The best ones are the ones which end with a riot.
Woo! Riots!

Yeah, damn Bush. Thank god I live in the UK....
Kramers Intern
12-12-2004, 18:42
Nah. Though I support their cause, It would make no difference if I went. They're vocal enough.

Thats so stupid, its like saying your vote doesnt count. The more support the better.
Shiaze
12-12-2004, 18:44
I answered no and i'm not gay just because you know what people would say. but I think they should have gay rights. because it was t-arrrrrgh.
Kramers Intern
12-12-2004, 18:46
I answered no and i'm not gay just because you know what people would say. but I think they should have gay rights. because it was t-arrrrrgh.

Noone is going to look at you and say oh he is gay, and what does it matter, if someone you know sees you they will no you're not gay, and if they are like tough anti-gay people than just say "what were you doing watching the gay rally anyway?"
Collegeland
12-12-2004, 18:50
I'm not much for rallies of any sort. They don't accomplish much except for getting bad publicity for the group when it ends in a riot.
Out On A Limb
12-12-2004, 18:50
Its like saying your vote doesnt count. The more support the better.

I agree, there are also may other ways of supporting causes than going to rallies and voting in the US... not all of which cost money... you can write you Congress people, the president and other elected officials via email or snail mail, urge them to vote certain ways and remind them what a portion of the people they represent think. You can also attend lobby days for the issues you care about in state congress.

Democracy requires active participation to be truely representative and there are many forms of it. :)
Aligned Planets
12-12-2004, 18:52
Not gay but I'd go and support :-)
Out On A Limb
12-12-2004, 18:54
Not gay but I'd go and support :-)

oh yeah, forgot to say in the previous post...ditto on that too
Khaalias
12-12-2004, 18:57
I wouldn't attend one because I'm just lazy. I'm all for gay rights though.
Jedi Raiders
12-12-2004, 18:58
*is not gay*

*has already been to a gay rights rally*
Siljhouettes
12-12-2004, 19:09
I would go if gay rights were particularly under threat in my country. Gay marriage remains illegal but I think that will change in the next 5 years. It has already been suggested in politics and the government generally thinks it's a good idea.
I'm not much for rallies of any sort. They don't accomplish much except for getting bad publicity for the group when it ends in a riot.
Most rallies/protests don't end in violence. Silence is often taken as complicity.
Kwangistar
12-12-2004, 19:16
I wouldn't, a lot of rallies deviate from their meaning quickly. It would go from supporting equal rights to a Bush-bash fest pretty fast, I think.
Ungdomshuset
12-12-2004, 19:19
Yeah.... I'd definatly go...
Tuesday Heights
12-12-2004, 19:27
I'm going to get flak for voting "No, and I'm Gay," I just know it...

I wouldn't attend a gay rights rally, because I'm fundamentally against them. The gay rights rallies I have been to have brought out the worst in gay culture and I take offense to that, therefore, I've resigned not to attend another one so long as I live.
Orwellianic
12-12-2004, 19:31
I would go if gay rights were particularly under threat in my country. Gay marriage remains illegal but I think that will change in the next 5 years.

Haha, next 5 years? Who are you kidding -- are you not aware who our President is?
Tactical Grace
12-12-2004, 19:32
No, people would think I was gay.

(Plus, I'd be creeped out.)
Out On A Limb
12-12-2004, 19:33
I'm going to get flak for voting "No, and I'm Gay," I just know it...

I wouldn't attend a gay rights rally, because I'm fundamentally against them. The gay rights rallies I have been to have brought out the worst in gay culture and I take offense to that, therefore, I've resigned not to attend another one so long as I live.

I understand your point completely.
I've definetly been to a few rallies, not neccassarily gay rights rallies, but rallies where the same thing has resulted. It's very frustrating.

Just because you wouldn't go to a rally doesn't mean the original cause isn't something you wouldn't support. Like I said earlier, there are many ways to show your support for issues.

You (in the universal sense) just have to do what works for you.

No flak here. :)
Cannot think of a name
12-12-2004, 19:35
No, people would think I was gay.

(Plus, I'd be creeped out.)
In order to know you where there, they'd have to be there, too. If they're gay themselves they are fully capable of understanding the solidarity without making the 'assumption.' If they are not then I think they understand why you would be there and not gay since they themselves are not gay and there.....
Out On A Limb
12-12-2004, 19:36
Haha, next 5 years? Who are you kidding -- are you not aware who our President is?

yo, not everyone here lives in the US... it's cyberspace.
Indiru
12-12-2004, 19:37
I answered no and i'm not gay just because you know what people would say. but I think they should have gay rights. because it was t-arrrrrgh.

Wow. That's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard for not getting up off your ass and making the world a better place. "you know what people would say"

Man, you need to learn that most people are shitheads so why should you care what they say?
NOTBAD
12-12-2004, 19:39
Thats so stupid, its like saying your vote doesnt count. The more support the better.


Our vote doesn't count. As shown by the 2000 elections. Elections are a sham made to make the American people feel better and think they make a difference, it's all a conspiracy.
Tuesday Heights
12-12-2004, 19:41
I understand your point completely.
I've definetly been to a few rallies, not neccassarily gay rights rallies, but rallies where the same thing has resulted. It's very frustrating.

Yeah, I've been to other rallies, too, that the same thing has happened at as well.

Just because you wouldn't go to a rally doesn't mean the original cause isn't something you wouldn't support. Like I said earlier, there are many ways to show your support for issues.

You (in the universal sense) just have to do what works for you.

For me, I find that just living my life as normal as it can be and being in a committed relationship with another woman is enough for people to see that homosexuality is "normal" in comparison to heterosexuality for my partner and I.

No flak here. :)

Thanks.
:)
Ratheia
12-12-2004, 19:42
I'd rather be hit by a vehicle moving at a ridiculously high speed of Mach .3
Stroudiztan
12-12-2004, 19:45
No, and I'm not gay.

I'm all for gay rights in the sense that they should be treated like the rest of us. I have several gay friends. I won't go to a rally because I have no protester spirit, I guess. I don't think very much gets solved by screaming and yelling and waving burning presidential effigies around. Also, the whole activist scene is full of uninformed people who make me sick. I could go on.
Cannot think of a name
12-12-2004, 19:46
[QUOTE=Tuesday Heights]I'm going to get flak for voting "No, and I'm Gay," I just know it...

EDIT: I took out my text because there was a desparity between what I was trying to say and what I actually said.

You're under no obligation to go just because your gay yourself. In your own way, in your own time. I've read your posts before, no one can accuse you of be apathetic to the cause.
Iztatepopotla
12-12-2004, 19:49
No. I'm too lazy to go to rallies of any kind. But I would read about it in the paper the next day.
Refused Party Program
12-12-2004, 19:49
I went to one about ten days ago.
Out On A Limb
12-12-2004, 19:50
For me, I find that just living my life as normal as it can be and being in a committed relationship with another woman is enough for people to see that homosexuality is "normal" in comparison to heterosexuality for my partner and I. Thanks. :)

You're welcome :)
Some people do need to see that living embodiment of stereotypes broken to make them think... and it doesn't require you to do anything out of your norm, so that's great.
Kzuu Mai
12-12-2004, 19:58
I'm not gay, but I would go on a gay rally:). Haven't been on one yet though, as far as I know there haven't been any near where I live...
Dunbarrow
12-12-2004, 20:52
No. I'm not gay... and I don't give a toss.
HyperionCentauri
12-12-2004, 20:54
Yes i would go, and i'm not gay-
Letila
12-12-2004, 21:20
I would go. I have a friend who is gay and I feel bad for all the suffering gay people go though.
Kryogenerica
12-12-2004, 22:24
Hey! You didn't put yes/no and I'm Bi as options.... :cool:


I wouldn't attend a gay rights rally, because I'm fundamentally against them. The gay rights rallies I have been to have brought out the worst in gay culture and I take offense to that, therefore, I've resigned not to attend another one so long as I live.Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I used to (about 15 years ago) perform as a musician in the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras (wild fun! :D ) until one year I was made to feel really uncomfortable because I'm a "breeder". :( Bigotry sucks no matter who the bigot is... :mad:

People like this really shoot themselves in the foot. They say they want to be able to celebrate their sexuality while they denigrate other peoples'. Way to get the wider community offside! :rolleyes:
Preebles
12-12-2004, 23:05
I'm straight and I've been to the Sydney Mardi Gras (encouraged by my parents might I add). It was great fun. Lots of glitter, drunkenness and the good old Melbourne Marching Boys.
Sel Appa
12-12-2004, 23:50
Yes, but just to hurl eggs, tomatoes, molotov cocktails, and several other things.