NationStates Jolt Archive

And that difference is advertisements!

Here are some European examples:
http://www.soccerconnections.net/images/pc/77sum_dscn2384%20man%20u.%20300%20pixels.jpg

http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~calcio-d/03-04%20maglia%20club%20team/03-04%20real%20madrid%20aw.jpg

http://bluetigerathletics.homestead.com/files/Ice_Tigers_Nurnberg.JPG

Here are some American examples:

http://www.majorleaguekids.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/SFJ1.jpg

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/200000/205800/205823/Products/6773258.jpg

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/210000/211800/211899/Products/8378217.jpg

Here is a bastard child:

http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/large/233220A-608.jpg
Note the Skoda Auto on the right sholder.

The most important difference:

Hooligans.

We don't have hoolies in America. We have rioters. :(

the NZ rugby team has the simplest you're likely to see in international sport

http://www.supportershop.co.uk/Img/1009.jpg

It is amazing how European sports are so much more capitalistic than American sports.

And that difference is advertisements!

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Excellent point! One more reason Nascar should not be considered a sport.

Excellent point! One more reason Nascar should not be considered a sport.
Nascar is considered a sport?

Excellent point! One more reason Nascar should not be considered a sport.
There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games
;)

Ernest Hemingway was a drunk and none of those three are sports.

Ernest Hemingway was a drunk and none of those three are sports.
Okay, apparently at 2am people take my posts more seriously than they ought to, but anyway....

Look, racing involves teams (more than just the drivers), strategy, endurance, and most importantly direct compitition. It's not like driving to the super market only "really fast." Even in NASCAR do you understand the strain of going through a turn that fast for that long? It's hard and it's competitive. You all don't like it? Gravy. I hate baseball and can't get interested in football for the life of me. But really, lay off. And I've met Raiders fans-trying to pick on the racing crowd is kinda a glass houses deal...

Formula 1 is a sport. Several thousand left turns is not.

Okay, apparently at 2am people take my posts more seriously than they ought to, but anyway....

Look, racing involves teams (more than just the drivers), strategy, endurance, and most importantly direct compitition. It's not like driving to the super market only "really fast." Even in NASCAR do you understand the strain of going through a turn that fast for that long? It's hard and it's competitive. You all don't like it? Gravy. I hate baseball and can't get interested in football for the life of me. But really, lay off. And I've met Raiders fans-trying to pick on the racing crowd is kinda a glass houses deal...

In my opinion a sport must involve one side trying to stop the other side, playing defense.

In my opinion a sport must involve one side trying to stop the other side, playing defense.
Which is what racing would have, if it were cool! A midget with a machine gun in every trunk, is what I say!

Which is what racing would have, if it were cool! A midget with a machine gun in every trunk, is what I say!

Fuckin' Right

They could shoot oil slicks and tacks out the back, too.

You know what screw the cars, NASTANK racing. That would be the shit.

It's not a real sport unless someone could possibly be hit in the face with something travelling in excess of 50mph.

What about monkey knife-fighting? Is that considered a sport?

It's not a real sport unless someone could possibly be hit in the face with something travelling in excess of 50mph.

Well then wouldn't NASCAR count? Because I think getting hit in the face with a car in excess of 50mph would suck.

I can only see it as a sport if the knives are thrown.

It's not a real sport unless someone could possibly be hit in the face with something travelling in excess of 50mph.

Preferably the people in the stands.

Well then wouldn't NASCAR count? Because I think getting hit in the face with a car in excess of 50mph would suck.

I've taken a bumper to the face going at least 70mph. It isn't as bad as you think.

NASCAR would be a sport if they had more crashes.
Like Formula 1 in the 70's. 20 odd cars start and about 3 finish with the rest up in flames at various points of the track.

I can only see it as a sport if the knives are thrown.

What if they also fling their own feces?

I've taken a bumper to the face going at least 70mph. It isn't as bad as you think.

Yeah, but that was only a bumper. I'm talking about a whole car.

I can only see faeces throwing as helpful.

I can only see faeces throwing as helpful.

Then monkey knife-and-feces-fights would be a sport, right?

Then monkey knife-and-feces-fights would be a sport, right?

Ironically enough, I received that bumper to the face while watching a monkey knife-and-feces fight.

The coincidences are astounding. :eek:

NASCAR would be a sport if they had more crashes.
Like Formula 1 in the 70's. 20 odd cars start and about 3 finish with the rest up in flames at various points of the track.
Thanks to restrictor plates you get that now on the super-speedways. The cars are all grouped up now and it's only a matter of time before someone loses it-AHEM-trying to DEFEND HIS POSITION-and bam, takes out thirteen cars all at once.

I prefer road-racing, I should say at the outset. However, F1 has become a tech-parade. No passing, single car dominance for years at a time, and computer controled cars. Give me the Phil Hills of old when the best they could do for down force was the wobble wheel...

Ovals are not the most interesting tracks in the world, but the truth of the matter is the RACING is close, competitive and any number of 15 drivers could win any race. And ultimetely that is what makes the racing interesting, the compitition. So ideally NASCAR is my least favorite form of racing (right above drag racing, ugh...), but truth be told in the end I want a close and hotly contested event and right now the best place to see that is NASCAR.

Ideally it'd be all sportscar racing and spectator friendly rally racing. But we can't have everything.