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This has to stop, i have no idea of which edition you r reading, or if you r just using Google, but the Bible is a Holy book, and it's the holy book of catholics, whichever confession they claim. but since it wasn't written in english, but it's a collection of different books written in Hebrew, than traslated in Greek and then traslated in Latin and then in English(how do you call the english of Gutemberg?) in August 15 1456, it would be a good point for all of you supposed Bible Readers Digest to actually use an official version of the bible, not something translated from god-knows-where.
It doesn't make your post any better to post parts of the bible that doesn't exist nor in the Hebrew nor in the Latin versions! :headbang:

oh, and a last thing, if you talk about jesus, you can't find him in the Old testament, there you can find the history of the Jews. Not Jesus but Jews. Got it? good

OH last thing... i'm not catholic

This has to stop, i have no idea of which edition you r reading, or if you r just using Google, but the Bible is a Holy book, and it's the holy book of catholics, whichever confession they claim. but since it wasn't written in english, but it's a collection of different books written in Hebrew, than traslated in Greek and then traslated in Latin and then in English(how do you call the english of Gutemberg?) in August 15 1456, it would be a good point for all of you supposed Bible Readers Digest to actually use an official version of the bible, not something translated from god-knows-where.
It doesn't make your post any better to post parts of the bible that doesn't exist nor in the Hebrew nor in the Latin versions! :headbang:

oh, and a last thing, if you talk about jesus, you can't find him in the Old testament, there you can find the history of the Jews. Not Jesus but Jews. Got it? good


Seeing as Jehovah is Jesus under a title... Jesus is in the Old Testament.

But other than that good points, cheers.

Awwwwwww

I thought you were going to post by Jack Chick!

:p

Sure it's a comic book. It's been several comic books at least. I remember a catholic school-chum had some. The Old Testament was more fun, as I recall...

oh, and a last thing, if you talk about jesus, you can't find him in the Old testament, there you can find the history of the Jews. Not Jesus but Jews. Got it? good

What is your point?

The old testament overrides the new?

What is your point?

The old testament overrides the new?

my point is that you can't just pick up a sentence from google pressing the button "I'm Feeling Lucky". the bible is a complex book, people studies it for years without being able to give a context, a meaning to all of it's parts. Because it's the book of a Religion, which has Holy Misteries,and it's rather dangerous to play with it, because you could inadvertly insult someone or worse than it, give wrong interpretation because of a lack of information. that's for example what's happening regarding the holy mission Bush feels about the war in Iraq or wherever else there is oil. The bible doesn't talk about oil. :eek:

my point is that you can't just pick up a sentence from google pressing the button "I'm Feeling Lucky". the bible is a complex book, people studies it for years without being able to give a context, a meaning to all of it's parts. Because it's the book of a Religion, which has Holy Misteries,and it's rather dangerous to play with it, because you could inadvertly insult someone or worse than it, give wrong interpretation because of a lack of information. that's for example what's happening regarding the holy mission Bush feels about the war in Iraq or wherever else there is oil. The bible doesn't talk about oil. :eek:
Actually it does mention oil.
In the New Testament, the woman applies the finiest oil on Jesus's feet because she is sorrowful.

my point is that you can't just pick up a sentence from google pressing the button "I'm Feeling Lucky".

Sure you can! Go to Google's site, the button exists! Holleyjewya!!

the bible is a complex book, people studies it for years without being able to give a context, a meaning to all of it's parts.

Yet no one agrees with everything in it. God sure wasn't clear when he influenced it, was he?

Because it's the book of a Religion, which has Holy Misteries,

Yeah, well, I came to a conclusion a long time ago that religion sucks.

and it's rather dangerous to play with it, because you could inadvertly insult someone or worse than it, give wrong interpretation because of a lack of information.
I have no problem insulting people. Isn't that why God created other people, so I can insult them?

that's for example what's happening regarding the holy mission Bush feels about the war in Iraq or wherever else there is oil. The bible doesn't talk about oil. :eek:

No he's doing it for the money. He's using the Bible to persuade others he's doing write.

I'm still waiting for Playboy to do a pictoral of the Song of Soloman. :D

The Jack Chick I like best is the one where the dude is on the plane that's going to crash. He's freaking out and his whole life flashes before his eyes and what he remembers is one time he looked at a chick's rack and said: "mmmm . . . nice." Then the missionaries said, "we told you so," and then God tosses him in the lake of fire.

The rest of the Bible would freakin' rock if it was a comic book too. What's R. Crumb been doing when he ain't been making New Yorker covers?

The website of The Holy See (http://www.vatican.va/)
From the same website: The New American Bible, links to versions in English, Italian, and Latin (http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/index.htm)

It doesn't get much more official than that. ;)

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

(how do you call the english of Gutemberg?)

He, he, he. I call it German.

But, yeah, you're right, to a point. Google is a wonderful research tool, but reading and interpreting the Bible takes much more than just finding a couple of quotes. But this applies to supposedly "Bible students" that only do just that, quote a couple of verses, instead of delving into the context of when that passage was written, by whom, and with what purpose. The Catholic Church reserves the right of Bible interpretation to only a few very learned priests who have shown they possess the background to interpret the Bible faithfully even read from Latin, Greek and Arameic sources.

Actually it does mention oil.
In the New Testament, the woman applies the finiest oil on Jesus's feet because she is sorrowful.

ehehhehehe it wasn't the oil that we now use to produce Ga, at least i hope :P :P

He, he, he. I call it German.



yeah, german. it's just that i don't think anymore in english so it's pretty hard to write something that has a sense.
my fault :p

Of course the Bible is a comic book!

See! (http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product/?item_no=81439&p=1010575)

http://graphics.christianbook.com/g/product/8/81439.gif


:D

while jesus and company spoke aramaic
the new testament was written in koine greek (very different dialect from homeric or ..uh..sophocleic ... greek)

so one can go directly from the original language right into english

not that its easy but any first year greek student can make a stab at it.

If the bible can't be taken out of context, it's useless as a moral guide.

For example (not looking this up anywhere) when Jesus said to "turn the other cheek", if the bible can't be taken out of context, then he's just saying "when you are insulted by the person who lives next to you, do not return the favour."

The traditional meaning of "when people fight you, don't fight back, wage peace not war" is completely quashed if the bible can't be taken out of context.

Just to make it completely clear - I am not a bible Student. I am not even a christian. I hold beliefs that many christians would cry "blasphemy!" over. However, my girlfriend, a devout Free Church Christian, is fine with them. So if you want to say that I'm a stupid kid who knows nothing about what he's talking about (as has happened in the past), then you may as well burn your copies of the new testament.

It's not a comic??? :confused: Then Marvel aren't gonna do that crossover series: the Marvelverse vs. Judeo-Christianity? I was so looking forward to The X-Men vs. Moses... and let's not forget Spider-Man vs. Jesus! Man, that looked soooo awesome. Someone really screwed up, and i'm blaming YHWH :mp5: Thor could so kick his ass.

The bible is not a comic book!
If it was, more people would probably read it.

It's not a comic??? :confused: Then Marvel aren't gonna do that crossover series: the Marvelverse vs. Judeo-Christianity? I was so looking forward to The X-Men vs. Moses... and let's not forget Spider-Man vs. Jesus! Man, that looked soooo awesome. Someone really screwed up, and i'm blaming YHWH :mp5: Thor could so kick his ass.
Wolverine vs the Virgin Mary. :D

It's not a comic???

Someone really screwed up

Thor could so kick his ass.

Actually, I'd LOVE seeing Thor vs. Jesus - I don't think Jehovah's son could defeat Odin's...consider:

Thor, God of thunder, rain, lightning...wielding Mjolnir...

Jesus and his uncanny ability to multiply food, walk on water, and rise from the dead as a noncorporeal entity three days after the fact.

I totally give Thor the edge here.

Actually, I'd LOVE seeing Thor vs. Jesus - I don't think Jehovah's son could defeat Odin's...consider:

Thor, God of thunder, rain, lightning...wielding Mjolnir...

Jesus and his uncanny ability to multiply food, walk on water, and rise from the dead as a noncorporeal entity three days after the fact.

I totally give Thor the edge here.

hahahahhahahaaahahahah that is funny

i vote it quote of the month
;)

In my opinion who ever started this thread is a moron. Not because of him defending the bible but because of him being against even questioning it. NO DAHH every1 knows that Jesus wasnt in the Torra(origonal Jewish Bible) i never heard anyone say that but it is a fact there are some contrivesal thing that god has done especialy in the old testement that are subject of debat and being a Catholic i do not find it offensive for people to debate anything in religon including my own

...(how do you call the english of Gutemberg?)...

Oh boy... You know, by mispelling his name, you are really solidfying your position on why the Bible is some sacred-holy-piece of shit.

It's spelt 'Guttenburg'. Try that "I'm Feeling Lucky" button on Google, and you might actually learn something.

In my opinion who ever started this thread is a moron. Not because of him defending the bible but because of him being against even questioning it. NO DAHH every1 knows that Jesus wasnt in the Torra(origonal Jewish Bible) i never heard anyone say that but it is a fact there are some contrivesal thing that god has done especialy in the old testement that are subject of debat and being a Catholic i do not find it offensive for people to debate anything in religon including my own
Now it's time to play.... Let's Correct Someone Else's Spelling!

every1 --> everyone
wasnt --> wasn't
Torra --> Torah
origonal - original
contriversal --> controversial
debat --> debate

and I don't even what to know what "NO DAHH" is supposed to be.

Secondly, the author of the thread isn't a moron, he's just a misguided sheep who's stick deep in the Catholic flock who must now be liberated.

No your a snot nosed asshole who has nothin better to do then correct other people spelling and also you better shutyour mouth about the catholic church no one needs you to liberate Jack

In my opinion who ever started this thread is a moron. Not because of him defending the bible but because of him being against even questioning it. NO DAHH every1 knows that Jesus wasnt in the Torra(origonal Jewish Bible) i never heard anyone say that but it is a fact there are some contrivesal thing that god has done especialy in the old testement that are subject of debat and being a Catholic i do not find it offensive for people to debate anything in religon including my own

it's just knowing what you are talking about, that's it. because when you read the bible you have to know that it's not like reading a newspaper, but you are in front of a book that need to be studied, not just quoted, moron ;)

Oh boy... You know, by mispelling his name, you are really solidfying your position on why the Bible is some sacred-holy-piece of shit.

It's spelt 'Guttenburg'. Try that "I'm Feeling Lucky" button on Google, and you might actually learn something.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Guttenburg&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

now tell me that you are right, please please please tell me who printed the first bible, the first book to ever be printer with mobile fonts in history, enlight me. please because you, and i say YOU just discovered that Gutemberg wasn't that man...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Gutemberg+bible&btnG=Search

but instead it was.. uh... Guttenburg! the world famous... Golf Club? http://www.golfclub-guttenburg.de/

you really need to get some fresh air, or tear gas... who cares

No your a snot nosed asshole who has nothin better to do then correct other people spelling and also you better shutyour mouth about the catholic church no one needs you to liberate Jack

thank you for your comment Sacra Roma...
NEXT!

Of course the Bible is a comic book!

See! (http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product/?item_no=81439&p=1010575)

http://graphics.christianbook.com/g/product/8/81439.gif


:D

Ooh! Is that the issue where we finally see the inside of the Jesusmobile?!? :eek:

Im the moron how is that. Because i dont care if people argue whats true or un true about the bible. I understand what im talking about and everyone takes from the bible somthing diffrent. One person interprits it diffrent from the next and theres no one set way to read or understand it and you or no one else can tell some one what is true or untrue about the bible as long as it actualy is a story or teaching. Some one obviously cant say somthing thats not in the bible and argue that its true but somone can interprit certein things how they wish.


Dumbass

I don't feel like dealing with this right now. I'm just going to lock it down and issue official warnings later.

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