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No, most likely not. In fact, I'm 99.9% sure that he wasn't. But I thought this article was pretty interesting.

Link: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/10/uk.jesus.reut/index.html

A group of Christians are going to prosecute a theater company for a play that depicts Jesus as gay. I'd say it is wrong to portray him as such, but I think they have the right to do it. Although, I don't know much about free-speech in Scotland. I'd like to see the play, you know, just to see what it is about.

P.S.

Sorry about the title, had to do it.

Blasphemy is a crime in Scotland? :rolleyes:

I think they are doing exactly what the playwrite wanted, creating a big controversy about the play. People are much more likely to see it now that people said they shouldn't.

As a Christian, I can say that is 100% false. Jesus was not no damn queer. Shit, he hanged out with hookers all day and drank wine. It says clearly in the Bible that Jesus hated queers. In Matthew 28:19 Jesus says "Ye, I say verily unto you that the Rump Rangers, donut bumpers, carpet munchers and Peter Puffers art a sin that none can forgive. Although the broads licking each other's twats is quite arousing, my father and I believe all that licking should be done on some guy's balls or asshole. Oh My, what lovely curtains"

So you can see that Jesus was no queer.

even if yes and even if not, I don't think it's right to make him perfect, and see him as the founder of great religion.

jesus was jewish even when he dead, the christians come many years after.
also, all his revulution thing, wasn't too special. all he had was carisma, and good conditions for his speaches.

and that before, we go to all the miracle stuff, that every religion had. I don't think I need to talk on that. just wait for the etheists, they will talk on that for weeks.

Bill Clinton, and Tony Blair, are both gay.

As a Christian, I can say that is 100% false. Jesus was not no damn queer. Shit, he hanged out with hookers all day and drank wine.
:D

For somereason I am finding strange things funny today

Blasphemy is a crime in Scotland? :rolleyes:

Technically yes, but I not quite sure if it still enforced.

I think they are doing exactly what the playwrite wanted, creating a big controversy about the play. People are much more likely to see it now that people said they shouldn't.
Step 1. of how to turn a mediocre play into a hit

*rolls around in Laughter*

You know what? In all likely hood, he actually was gay, or at least bi-sexual. In the Roman World it was perfectly acceptable. So chances are, he may has screwed any on from a Little boy or girl, to an older person(s).

So, so far the list has got to the point where Jesus could be or is a
Gay, Phedophile, Black, Jew. Other others? :D

*rolls around in Laughter*

You know what? In all likely hood, he actually was gay, or at least bi-sexual. In the Roman World it was perfectly acceptable. So chances are, he may has screwed any on from a Little boy or girl, to an older person(s).

Well, he wasn't in the Roman world ;)

So, so far the list has got to the point where Jesus could be or is a
Gay, Phedophile, Black, Jew. Other others? :D
Any fule knows he was Irish

1. He never got married.
2. He was always telling stories.
3. He loved green pastures.

I would say that Jesus could careless about what someone does in their privacy (as long as its fair and non-biased). Its what is made public that seems to matter to most people (for some reason). It is odd that we would think that the way we live today or what we see as being taboo or whatever is the same as 2000+ years ago. Things were accepted then that are not now, things accepted today were not accepted then. Lifestyles and our ways evolve the same as everything else. I truly think we are all evolving for the better, towards more love and understanding. They call me an optimist although.

Given that he was married and had a child with said wife, I'd say he wasn't gay.

They'd f**k anything in those days.

I would say if He was the Son of God he would be virgin.

Matthew 22:28 In the resurrection therefore whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 But Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as angels in heaven.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

He most certanly not gay. The way gays are depicted in the Bible from the prophets, I highly doubt the messiah/son of God would have been gay. Besides, during that time, homoseuxality would have been seen as very different and odd and would have been mentioned in the Gospels.

something tells me if a man is a virgin by the age of 35 he's gay

something tells me if a man is a virgin by the age of 35 he's gay


That would mean he wasn't either straight or gay. If he were gay, he would have likely had sex by that age too.

Jesus wasn't gay, he was bi and held big sex parties, but only guys showed up, so that's why he's depicted as such.

Jesus was probably not gay, but from a metaphorical point of view there is nothing inconsistent about a gay Jesus.

Jesus represents the oppressed, the persecuted, the outcast. From that point of view Jesus embodies the hope of gay people, as well as others who have been marginalized by society.

Besides - Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/mary.html

I don't know, he hung around with twelve unmarried dudes and told people to 'love your brother'...sure, he might've been.

Who cares if he was or wasn't? His good qualities didn't hinge on his sexuality, did they? One thing is certain - not one of us can say definitively if he was or wasn't. We can only speculate.

If thinking of Jesus as gay or bi or straight helps YOU out, then sure...think of him that way. I'm pretty certain he wouldn't be upset by what you think, either way, what with him being dead and all.

This puts a new spin on the whole "three in one" perception of the Trinity. Think "fingercuffs."

/packs his suntan lotion.
//gonna need it.

Lol, I should have seen a discussion about the sexuality of Jesus coming. The more I think about it, Jesus would have definately been called a queer in today's times. Or at least a peace-loving long haired hippy.

At any rate, he was definately metrosexual. Jesus would never wear flannel.

Besides - Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/mary.html
Kenny Everette was married fir a while, and even had children I think.

Blasphemy is a crime in Scotland? :rolleyes:

I think they are doing exactly what the playwrite wanted, creating a big controversy about the play. People are much more likely to see it now that people said they shouldn't.

Yeesh.
Two words: Free Speech.

Fundies: 0, guy who wrote a bloody good play: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Blasphemy is technically still illegal everywhere in the UK, but it hasn't been enforced for I think well over 20 years. If it was enforced I can imagine the UK would be a considerable bit different to how it is today. It may be enforced in small, particularly devout parts of the country to some extent though for all I know (eg. Isle of Lewis.)

If the home secretary's new Incitement to Religious Hatred bill is passed things like this and the Maddame Tussauds' nativity could be deemed a punishable offence. Considering how PC and anti-British the government currently are they would probably be more than willing to overlook anything that offended any Christians.

Well it is a sin to be gay and Jesus lived a life without sin so I would say NO!

Blasphemy is technically still illegal everywhere in the UK, but it hasn't been enforced for I think well over 20 years. If it was enforced I can imagine the UK would be a considerable bit different to how it is today. It may be enforced in small, particularly devout parts of the country to some extent though for all I know (eg. Isle of Lewis.)

If the home secretary's new Incitement to Religious Hatred bill is passed things like this and the Maddame Tussauds' nativity could be deemed a punishable offence. Considering how PC and anti-British the government currently are they would probably be more than willing to overlook anything that offended any Christians.
As far as know, it is still on the books but unenforcable due to the ECHR

Look at the pictures of Jesus. Flowing brown locks of hair, washboard abs, beautiful eyes...

Lets face it-he was either a pimp, or a homosexual :p

lets just say he ws gay and end the disscussion :D

Look at the pictures of Jesus. Flowing brown locks of hair, washboard abs, beautiful eyes...

Lets face it-he was either a pimp, or a homosexual :p

I'm not a fan of the beard, though. That would simply have to go...

Look at the pictures of Jesus. Flowing brown locks of hair, washboard abs, beautiful eyes...

Lets face it-he was either a pimp, or a homosexual :p
Now that would be an idea for any budding artist, turning Jesus into a pimp complete with hat and fur coat :D

No..

Now that would be an idea for any budding artist, turning Jesus into a pimp complete with hat and fur coat :D

I don't know about the fur coat, that leans towards tacky. Jesus was definately metrosexual, as historical evidence shows.

Coming to Queer Eye For the Straight Guy this fall......Jesus!

Jesus: Oh no! That flannel must go! And what is this? It looks like a toaster on a chain. You can replace it with a subtle silver cross to accent your neck line....

I believe grave_n_idle translated some passages … something about john(I will look it up … somewhere in the homosexuality sin thread) in the temple

(even the translated bible) says that he kissed him but when you look at the original language they use one of the sexual variants of the verb in the original language (not the platonic version)

What it boils down to … Jesus gave him tong

I don't know about the fur coat, that leans towards tacky. Jesus was definately metrosexual, as historical evidence shows.

Well we are talking about pimps who aren't exactly reknowed for their taste.

Coming to Queer Eye For the Straight Guy this fall......Jesus!

Jesus: Oh no! That flannel must go! And what is this? It looks like a toaster on a chain. You can replace it with a subtle silver cross to accent your neck line....
But I wonder what eau de toilet he would wear

thats dumb ...read the bible and then laugh at yourself

thats dumb ...read the bible and then laugh at yourself
have a feeling you haven't read the opening post.

No, Jesus wasn't gay. Actually, more than one respected theologian has put forward the theory that it is quite possible that Jesus was married, and had children. According to many people, the gospels were altered beyond recognition in order to make them more politicaly acceptable to the Roman populace.

As for the theatre group presenting Jesus as gay, well, its the 21st century. Shock culture has gained alot of ground over the past thirty years, and it seems that more and more people will do anything for attention. I say, bully for them. Its like the kid in grammar school that put glue down his pants and did weird shit with his eyelids. Disgusting, yes, pathetic, yes, but you can only feel sorry for these people, as they must have been neglected by their parents and peers growing up, or something.

Wholly crap, what will we come up with next? Is the Pope gay? Maybe Abe Lincoln was asian. Oh wait, that's right, we have real documentation to prove otherwise. Two hundred years from now I'm sure some fanatic will write a book saying Abe was an indian bi-sexual phedophile and just because it's in a book he'll get himself a following. Read a history book that wasn't written by some ill informed anti-establishment fanatic, or refrain from making inferences about something you're ignorant on just because you heard your brothers girlfriend talk about it or because it's popular or controversial to think it. It's entirely fair to debate the sexual orientation of Jesus, or any other topic, but debating with real facts is a little more concrete than personal wishes or feelings about something.

Wholly crap, what will we come up with next? Is the Pope gay? Maybe Abe Lincoln was asian. Oh wait, that's right, we have real documentation to prove otherwise. Two hundred years from now I'm sure some fanatic will write a book saying Abe was an indian bi-sexual phedophile and just because it's in a book he'll get himself a following. Read a history book that wasn't written by some ill informed anti-establishment fanatic, or refrain from making inferences about something you're ignorant on just because you heard your brothers girlfriend talk about it or because it's popular or controversial to think it. It's entirely fair to debate the sexual orientation of Jesus, or any other topic, but debating with real facts is a little more concrete than personal wishes or feelings about something.

You didn't even read the first post, did you?

So, so far the list has got to the point where Jesus could be or is a
Gay, Phedophile, Black, Jew. Other others? :D
:headbang: of course he was a jew, that's why he caused so many problems with in the jewish church!

Oh please, everyone knows that Jesus was a Gay Black Hippie Jew.

You didn't even read the first post, did you?

I should have specified. My comment wasn't directed at the original post but at everyone who says he's gay simply because they want to think that he was either because it's pop-culture now or they want to justify their own gay yet Christian tendicies, or maybe just need an excuse to bash Christian beliefs, but still lack any reasonable argument.

He most certanly not gay. The way gays are depicted in the Bible from the prophets, I highly doubt the messiah/son of God would have been gay. Besides, during that time, homoseuxality would have been seen as very different and odd and would have been mentioned in the Gospels.

Does it mention him being married?

Because, in Biblical times, a young Jewish man that wasn't married was something of an oddity, and DEFINITELY worthy of a mention.

So - either he was abnormal (and should have been mentioned for it), or the bible missed out on some fairly important details.

Also - aside from the Book of Phillip, which details Jesus smooching on Mary Magdalene - the only person he is really recorded as exchanging saliva with, is Judas.

So - by your logic, Jesus and Judas were gay lovers.

Notice there was no 'fuss' made about the Judas-on-Jesus action, either? So, again by your logic, it must not have been deemed worthy of comment, right?

No, you are all wrong.

Jesus was black. He called everybody brother, he liked gospel and he couldn't get a fair trial.

*rimshot*

come on jesus was completely gay. he hung out with twelve unmarried guys(already mentioned) and an exprostitute(can you say faghag). he called peter the rock for gosh sakes, its basically like calling him mr. stiffy or stud muffin.

on a theological level he is also gay, he's a male diety taking on completely the role of a mother goddess(can you say the queen of queens and lady of ladies). his role is the all forgiving parent and the intercessionary with the judging father, these are distinctly feminine roles.

No, you are all wrong.

Jesus was black. He called everybody brother, he liked gospel and he couldn't get a fair trial.

*rimshot*

but still a big gay drag queen like in wigstock.

well i just got 1 thing 2 say:

WHO GIVES A FLYING WHOTSIT!!!!!

He was a gr8 guy wiv sum gr8 ideas like peace, love and harmony. Let's leave the dude alone!!!!

well i just got 1 thing 2 say:

WHO GIVES A FLYING WHOTSIT!!!!!

He was a gr8 guy wiv sum gr8 ideas like peace, love and harmony. Let's leave the dude alone!!!!
and some crappy ones about guilt and perfectionism.

and some crappy ones about guilt and perfectionism.

dude, those where put in l8r by ppl wo just wanted money off the illiatrate(sp?) and poor!!!