NationStates Jolt Archive


Homeless Children

Patra Caesar
10-12-2004, 09:55
It probably will not surprise you that this Christmas I am going to ask you to think of the homeless, especially children who are homeless. Children cannot vote governments that harm them out like adults do, and this is the season to be charitable (unless you're some hippy who thinks you should be charitable all year round). Yes, yes, I know there are children in Africa who are starving, but 40% of them have HIV/AIDS and will die soon anyway, plus whenever I talk about HIV/AIDS I am often told that it's a faggot disease created by Jesus to keep those homos down (like the backs of buses were built to keep them niggers away from us white folk until that Rosa Parkes).

Anyway, this year I ask you to donate money to the ONLY country that's biggest group of homeless people are in fact children. 'Who is this tin pot third world nation?' I hear someone ask? Why, the good ole United States of America. These Americans are SO POOR that they do not have the money to keep their children off the streets. So please, this year donate to America.
Lacadaemon
10-12-2004, 11:10
It probably will not surprise you that this Christmas I am going to ask you to think of the homeless, especially children who are homeless. Children cannot vote governments that harm them out like adults do, and this is the season to be charitable (unless you're some hippy who thinks you should be charitable all year round). Yes, yes, I know there are children in Africa who are starving, but 40% of them have HIV/AIDS and will die soon anyway, plus whenever I talk about HIV/AIDS I am often told that it's a faggot disease created by Jesus to keep those homos down (like the backs of buses were built to keep them niggers away from us white folk until that Rosa Parkes).

Anyway, this year I ask you to donate money to the ONLY country that's biggest group of homeless people are in fact children. 'Who is this tin pot third world nation?' I hear someone ask? Why, the good ole United States of America. These Americans are SO POOR that they do not have the money to keep their children off the streets. So please, this year donate to America.

My ex-wife looks after five of the said urchins. I have to pay for it.
Norticlass
10-12-2004, 12:07
My ex-wife looks after five of the said urchins. I have to pay for it.

sounds like you dont like that ??
Lacadaemon
10-12-2004, 12:12
sounds like you dont like that ??

I have no problem with the urchin care per se.

I would like to see the little guys once in a while without lawyers involved. That's all.
Norticlass
10-12-2004, 12:15
I have no problem with the urchin care per se.

I would like to see the little guys once in a while without lawyers involved. That's all.

yea good point
Tactical Grace
10-12-2004, 12:33
So please, this year donate to America.
You're kidding me. :rolleyes:

Tell ya what, meet us halfway and redirect the bulk of your defence budget into social programs. Then we can talk.
Consul Augustus
10-12-2004, 12:47
you might as well throw your money in a lucky well and wish the world becomes a better place.. Next time someone asks me for a charity donation I'm gonna burn a 5 euro bill right in front of his nose :D I pay tax!
Lacadaemon
10-12-2004, 12:52
yea good point


Yeah it sucks. I thought they would make a great xmas photo, but it was just too expensive.

Oh well.
Jello Biafra
10-12-2004, 13:25
you might as well throw your money in a lucky well and wish the world becomes a better place.. Next time someone asks me for a charity donation I'm gonna burn a 5 euro bill right in front of his nose :D I pay tax!
But evidently not enough taxes.
Patra Caesar
10-12-2004, 14:40
You're kidding me. :rolleyes:

Tell ya what, meet us halfway and redirect the bulk of your defence budget into social programs. Then we can talk.

I would be happy if my country (not American BTW) spent half of it's defence budget on social programs, however since our Prime Minister is a half-sized half-wit that's not going to happen. He's going to continue spending both dollars on the military every year (and we've still not lost a single troop in Iraq).
Sinuhue
10-12-2004, 19:09
It probably will not surprise you that this Christmas I am going to ask you to think of the homeless, especially children who are homeless. Children cannot vote governments that harm them out like adults do, and this is the season to be charitable (unless you're some hippy who thinks you should be charitable all year round).
Yes, yes, I know there are children in Africa who are starving, but 40% of them have HIV/AIDS and will die soon anyway, plus whenever I talk about HIV/AIDS I am often told that it's a faggot disease created by Jesus to keep those homos down (like the backs of buses were built to keep them niggers away from us white folk until that Rosa Parkes).

Anyway, this year I ask you to donate money to the ONLY country that's biggest group of homeless people are in fact children. 'Who is this tin pot third world nation?' I hear someone ask? Why, the good ole United States of America. These Americans are SO POOR that they do not have the money to keep their children off the streets. So please, this year donate to America.

I really hope you are writing satire, and these are not your actual beliefs. Either way, you are belittling the actual plight of poor (not necessarily homeless) children in the U.S (and everywhere) either through your blantant ignorance, or through your sarcasm. Children are particularly at risk no matter what country they happen to live in, and it is the perception inherent in our social structures that either provides for or neglects those children.

What exactly is your intention?
The Force Majeure
10-12-2004, 23:43
Anyway, this year I ask you to donate money to the ONLY country that's biggest group of homeless people are in fact children.

So the US has the lowest percentage of homeless people that are adults?

*high five*
Patra Caesar
11-12-2004, 01:27
I really hope you are writing satire, and these are not your actual beliefs. Either way, you are belittling the actual plight of poor (not necessarily homeless) children in the U.S (and everywhere) either through your blantant ignorance, or through your sarcasm. Children are particularly at risk no matter what country they happen to live in, and it is the perception inherent in our social structures that either provides for or neglects those children.

What exactly is your intention?

Satire to raise awareness of the problems faced by children who cannot vote for a government who will act in their interests and are in fact one of the most vulnrable groups in any society. As for belittling them, well at least I am actually drawing attention to their problems (plus they're children, so they're small anyway).

What really interests me about the replies I have is that no one has bothered to say something like:
a) '40% of Africans have AIDS/HIV? That's terrible.'
b) 'They don't deserve to die, despite what you post.'
c) 'AIDS/HIV isn't a faggot disease created by Jesus to kill off homos.'
d) 'It is offencive to use the racial slur, "******."'
e) 'How can I help any of these people?'

But I guess it's much more important to ensure people say the right things rather than figure out ways to try and help people.
Ice Hockey Players
11-12-2004, 01:41
Satire to raise awareness of the problems faced by children who cannot vote for a government who will act in their interests and are in fact one of the most vulnrable groups in any society. As for belittling them, well at least I am actually drawing attention to their problems (plus they're children, so they're small anyway).

What really interests me about the replies I have is that no one has bothered to say something like:
a) '40% of Africans have AIDS/HIV? That's terrible.'
b) 'They don't deserve to die, despite what you post.'
c) 'AIDS/HIV isn't a faggot disease created by Jesus to kill off homos.'
d) 'It is offencive to use the racial slur, "******."'
e) 'How can I help any of these people?'

But I guess it's much more important to ensure people say the right things rather than figure out ways to try and help people.

Actually, I thought this thread was a response to all those "lazy poor" threads as a sort of argument against the poor being lazy. That is, before I read it. That said, under normal circumstances I don't give a damn one way or another about children, but if there's any group that doesn't deserve to be homeless, it's them, plain and simple.

Now ask me for donations for homeless kittens, and I'll fork over whatever I have. The Humane Society is definitely a worthy charity.
Gurnee
11-12-2004, 02:15
You're kidding me. :rolleyes:

Tell ya what, meet us halfway and redirect the bulk of your defence budget into social programs. Then we can talk.

Well, I'm an American and I agree with you here, but for the next 4 years, it'll be the exact opposite.
Anolaconi
11-12-2004, 02:22
Wow. I never thought anyone could make charity a debate over ethics, but I suppose there are always some. Pardon me for paraphrasing, but I think the basic idea of the original thread is "help those in need, especiallyt hose to young to help themselves." If you've nothing to spare, fine. If you don't care, that's sad but it's your thing. Screw the countries and their oh-so-carefully alotted funding, and fuck every prime minister and president there ever was and ever will be. Buy a kid a coat or that five-dollar doll their parents can't afford.

I think I just ranted. Forgive me.
Sel Appa
11-12-2004, 02:29
What is the point of donating to save the lives of a small part of 6.3 Billion People. There are hundreds, if not thousands of animals that will be extinct soon. That money you may have spent on some homeless person may kill an entire species.

I am sick of the lack of humans caring about their fellow animals. We'll be at 9 Billion soon, and several species will be at 0. A human life is no more important than a tiger or a manatee's life, if not less.

If anyone is wondering, I would gladly give my live if a species of animals could be saved.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-12-2004, 02:34
Well, I'm an American and I agree with you here, but for the next 4 years, it'll be the exact opposite.

Which is a real pity since the price of an F-22 fighter could give every homeless child in America a decent christmas.

Pitiful, isn't it? :(
Anolaconi
11-12-2004, 02:35
Reply to Sel Appa:

Partially in the right and therefore wholly in the wrong. We can't make a dent in human problems, and we could very well put another species back on the map with the money we spend on our own. But that's the human condition: belief in our own supremacy as a species. Don't get me wrong - I personally believe that we fool ourselves with captalism, governments, families, and other whatnot so we can pretend it's not all about procreation; we are animals, after all is said and done - but honestly a manatee can't do much with a dollar bill.
Sel Appa
11-12-2004, 02:40
But a group like Save the Manatee Club (http://www.savethemanatee.org) can spend that dollar on fighting anti-conservation legislation, Manatee awareness, and many other things. Check out the site to see what they do. I plan to give $100 to them. You should too (I don't mean $100, but $10 would be nice). They have some offers every once in awhile. For example, donate $20 and get a manatee towel.
Anolaconi
11-12-2004, 02:46
Reply to Sel Appa:

Thanks for the link. There are Adopt-a-Family programs springing up everywhere at local groceries and other stores over the holidays; if you've any bit left after the manatees, maybe you could look into one of those. It never hurts to donate both ways, right?
Peechland
11-12-2004, 02:57
You're kidding me. :rolleyes:

Tell ya what, meet us halfway and redirect the bulk of your defence budget into social programs. Then we can talk.


umm...while asking for people to donate money in a chat forum is a little silly, obviously the person who started this thread had the best intentions. i dont think your reply was appropriate. "meet you halfway?" do you think citizens get to make changes in the governments budget? i wish like hell we could pick and choose where the money goes.maybe i could call bush up and say, "now if you'lll give part of the defense budget to our social programs, then people in other countries will donate money to our poor." "and while youre taking requests from little peons like myself, how bout you make the treasury department make all the coins different pretty pastel colors?" "thanks mr. president, i'll call you back if i have anymore changes i need you to make."

someone always has to make it a political issue, especially america's political issues. i guess the people who ring the bell outside wal-mart for the salvation army, who ask for donations for the poor, should just stop ringing their little bell til bush makes some changes. gimmie a break.
and yeah someones going to say 'well the US elected him." NO not all of us did. they should have like10 or 20 candidates to choose from instead of 2.
Patra Caesar
13-12-2004, 15:20
umm...while asking for people to donate money in a chat forum is a little silly, obviously the person who started this thread had the best intentions.

Actually my intentions may not have been the best, depending upon your P.O.V., I had intended to shock with what I thought was an amazing statistic to try and motovate someone, anyone to do something that would make the world a better place. Not world changing mind you, but do something to help (donate to the blind, protect an endangered species, fight against bigotry). Ohh well, never mind.