NationStates Jolt Archive

I know most people will say either the party leaders or the influencial MPs and I will be no exception. Personally, I only have 2 MPs I really dislike, Jack Layton because he likes to think he's robin hood and that taxing the rich more and more will solve all of our many problems, which it won't and Rob Anders, who is nothing but a racist biggot and sadly, when I lived in his riding, I wanted him to win. Anyone else? This is open to both Federal and Provincial politicians, past and present. For Provincial, anyone in the Saskatchewan NDP.

Are you restricting this to active politicos?



Because I have to give my lifetime acheivement award to Lyin' Brian... with a Quebecoise peg-leg in a very close second.


Currently the person who is most screwing things up for me is the current Premier of Ontario. My only consolation is the fact that I still think that Eves would have been worse...

stephen harper :sniper: would have to be my least favourite politicain at the moment,also any bloc politician, but thats just becuase i don't like quebec, waisting our tax money on useless referendoms that we know the outcome to before they even start :headbang:, finaly Ralf Cline, the Bush of canada

stephen harper :sniper: would have to be my least favourite politicain at the moment,also any bloc politician, but thats just becuase i don't like quebec, waisting our tax money on useless referendoms that we know the outcome to before they even start :headbang:, finaly Ralf Cline, the Bush of canada
Yeah, we saw last election how reliable polls can be /sarcasm.

Anyway, for my part i'd say the MP who tried to pass the bill stating that marriage is to be defined as between a man and a woman exclusively.

And Jean Charest (quebec's PM) for being the most conservative liberal I've ever seen.

A close third is the leader on the defunct conservative party who signed over his party to the alliance despite writing an oath not to do it. That was class. I'm sorry, I purged his name from my memory.

Yeah, we saw last election how reliable polls can be /sarcasm.

Anyway, for my part i'd say the MP who tried to pass the bill stating that marriage is to be defined as between a man and a woman exclusively.

And Jean Charest (quebec's PM) for being the most conservative liberal I've ever seen.

A close third is the leader on the defunct conservative party who signed over his party to the alliance despite writing an oath not to do it. That was class. I'm sorry, I purged his name from my memory.


The third one you are thinking of is Peter McKay but I'm glad he did. David Orchard is a dumbass who isn't even a conservatives, he's a hippy.

Yeah but you don't expect someone to lie on something as big as disbanding the party. Even if it's to make sure that a hippie isn't put in power. I expect politicians to lie. But not on something like that.

Maybe I'm too naive.

The Alliance nor the PC were going to beat the Liberals on their own, they just split the vote too much. This last election was a bit of a downer but with 99 seats (soon to be 100), they are a strong opposition party.

All those token backbenchers of the conservative party. Who are they kidding by having a quadrapaliegic and an openly homosexual in their caucus.Thair not fooling me. And the one that ticks me off the most is Belinda Stronach. Stephen Harper is obviously the superior polotician in comparison to her, but she still runs against him for leadership. Belinda Stronach is the prime example of how polotics is often just a popularity contest, otherwise she wouldn't have even won her seat (by 200 votes) last election.ps I also hate ernie eves because of his old & new haircut, he went from greasy slick, to elvis overnight.

Ya because having a conservative in a wheelchair and a homosexual is just a ploy but those wonderful Liberals, who allowed Carolyn Parrish to stay in the party as long as they did are good, honest people.

Ya because having a conservative in a wheelchair and a homosexual is just a ploy but those wonderful Liberals, who allowed Carolyn Parrish to stay in the party as long as they did are good, honest people.

I could answer that question with...why did the conservative party do nothing to Cheryl Gallant for her rampage a week before the election. Next thing you know they have her sitting next to a pro choicer, the gay sitting next to a homophobe, and the quadrapalegic sitting next to a memebr who wants helthcare to be gutted for tax cuts. That would be funny.

And on the honest people shot I respond with...Ontario defcit, and airbus scandal..at least the liberals havn't done things that the would require jail sentances.

Paul Martin

honestly, the man needs to stop sucking Bush's cock and grow a spine

80% of Canadians dont want star wars

I could answer that question with...why did the conservative party do nothing to Cheryl Gallant for her rampage a week before the election. Next thing you know they have her sitting next to a pro choicer, the gay sitting next to a homophobe, and the quadrapalegic sitting next to a memebr who wants helthcare to be gutted for tax cuts. That would be funny.



Wow, ignoring my question. I don't care, but I'll answer your's anyway. The Conservative Party attracts those kinds of people (pro life, anti gay, etc) and it also attracts the fiscal conservatives, like myself. I am very Liberal on the social issues but the parties that think that way on them also have brutal fiscal policies that would ruin even the best of economies (NDP). Also, the Liberals haven't done a superb job with health care and haven't tackled those waiting lists very well, so they cannot play the "Holier than thou" card just yet. And yes, there are people in the Liberals who are pro life and anti gay. And who ever thought up the gun registry should be deported.

Paul Martin

honestly, the man needs to stop sucking Bush's cock and grow a spine

80% of Canadians dont want star wars

Ever heard of back scratching ? Martin allow the shild to go up in Cnada..bush gets his sheild, canadains get to build it with american dollars, the boarder is open for beef, and the softwood lumber tax is eleminated. Sound like a win win, considering .

I agree Paul Martin.

I am sure he is an ok guy, but he really isn't doing anything to make Canada a better place. The soft wood tariff, and the cattle boarder closure is still going on, as well as many other issues that are not being solved!

It's just sorta disappointing.

Ever heard of back scratching ? Martin allow the shild to go up in Cnada..bush gets his sheild, canadains get to build it with american dollars, the boarder is open for beef, and the softwood lumber tax is eleminated. Sound like a win win, considering .
ah but what makes you think the US will re-open it'S border or drop it'S illegal tariff if we go along and let them put missile on our land?

If history has taught us something it's that the Bush administration is good for asking things but far more reticent to give away ground. I'm afraid that back-scratching to the Bush administration will not work. Hell, we asked them not to mention the missile shield during his visit and he went and did it anyway.

Wow, ignoring my question. I don't care, but I'll answer your's anyway. The Conservative Party attracts those kinds of people (pro life, anti gay, etc) and it also attracts the fiscal conservatives, like myself. I am very Liberal on the social issues but the parties that think that way on them also have brutal fiscal policies that would ruin even the best of economies (NDP). Also, the Liberals haven't done a superb job with health care and haven't tackled those waiting lists very well, so they cannot play the "Holier than thou" card just yet. And yes, there are people in the Liberals who are pro life and anti gay. And who ever thought up the gun registry should be deported.


Well, you never eally asked a question so I should go back and edit it. So a conservative government that will destroy the surplus to allow for tax cuts will ignor the nation debt.As is the national debt consumes 30% of every tax dollar collected, and thats just paying interest. So if you are a fiscal conservative than you obviously support the liberals as haveing the only platform that aims at decreasing the national debt, saving you about 15% on your yearly federal taxes. And I thought that the heathcare deal struck in september was the largest contribution to heathcare in history. Its really up to the provinces to use the money and sirection to reduce waiting times now.The gunregistry is feel good legislation I admit, but in an anti gun nation you gota appear like your trying.

ah but what makes you think the US will re-open it'S border or drop it'S illegal tariff if we go along and let them put missile on our land?

If history has taught us something it's that the Bush administration is good for asking things but far more reticent to give away ground. I'm afraid that back-scratching to the Bush administration will not work. Hell, we asked them not to mention the missile shield during his visit and he went and did it anyway.

Bush is a tricky one, but paul martin is the better man between the two. I have confidance in my PM over the american president. The missle shield is the barganing chip, we can decide to cancle to program at any time, they can close the boarder to goods at any time, so co operation is the key.

stephen harper :sniper: would have to be my least favourite politicain at the moment,also any bloc politician, but thats just becuase i don't like quebec, waisting our tax money on useless referendoms that we know the outcome to before they even start :headbang:, finaly Ralf Cline, the Bush of canada

Because, you know, the vote on those is never close anyway...

In Sask politics, the three major party leaders were all pretty weak in the latest provincial election. We got to choose from a neo-nazi on the right, an ineffective moneywaster on the left, and a wishy-washy do-nothing in the middle.

Wow, ignoring my question. I don't care, but I'll answer your's anyway. The Conservative Party attracts those kinds of people (pro life, anti gay, etc) and it also attracts the fiscal conservatives, like myself. I am very Liberal on the social issues but the parties that think that way on them also have brutal fiscal policies that would ruin even the best of economies (NDP). Also, the Liberals haven't done a superb job with health care and haven't tackled those waiting lists very well, so they cannot play the "Holier than thou" card just yet. And yes, there are people in the Liberals who are pro life and anti gay. And who ever thought up the gun registry should be deported.

The conservative party will continue to become more "centralist" and get rid of some of these fruity christians and anti gay knuckleheads.

Hopefully people in ontario will see how misguided the liberals are and see that the conservatives are not republicans and will not dismantle health care + have these huge tax cuts for the weathy.

Hopefully, they will get rid of the crazy gun control act, change the crazy EI system. 750 hours working = gravy TRAIN!!! And put some money into the military....

Well, you never eally asked a question so I should go back and edit it. So a conservative government that will destroy the surplus to allow for tax cuts will ignor the nation debt.As is the national debt consumes 30% of every tax dollar collected, and thats just paying interest. So if you are a fiscal conservative than you obviously support the liberals as haveing the only platform that aims at decreasing the national debt, saving you about 15% on your yearly federal taxes. And I thought that the heathcare deal struck in september was the largest contribution to heathcare in history. Its really up to the provinces to use the money and sirection to reduce waiting times now.The gunregistry is feel good legislation I admit, but in an anti gun nation you gota appear like your trying.


Are you stupid? They would cut crap like EI and then cut taxes, they are not going to into deficiet again. What are you smoking?

I vehemetly despise Jackass Layton and that miserable old hag Carolyn Parrish

I vehemetly despise Jackass Layton and that miserable old hag Carolyn Parrish
I'm sorry I find Carolyn Parrish to be hilarious. She makes Canadian politics worth following these days.

I'm sorry I find Carolyn Parrish to be hilarious. She makes Canadian politics worth following these days.


I think she may just be insane myself...

I don't hate any Canadian politicians in particular, but I feel sorry for the Conservatives. They seem to have the image of being the ideological brethren of the US Republican Party (i.e. far-right, religious nut, neocon, etc).

I don't hate any Canadian politicians in particular, but I feel sorry for the Conservatives. They seem to have the image of being the ideological brethren of the US Republican Party (i.e. far-right, religious nut, neocon, etc).


GRRRR no think right of center, but centralist....

i'm not terribly fond of stephen harper... saying that paul martin supported kiddie porn was a little out of line and not really nice at all.

plus he went and tried to get petitions from churches to keep gay marriage from becoming legal.

i'm not terribly fond of stephen harper... saying that paul martin supported kiddie porn was a little out of line and not really nice at all.

plus he went and tried to get petitions from churches to keep gay marriage from becoming legal.


Personally, I think its time to get a new leader for the Cs. One a little less alberta i guess...

The conservative party will continue to become more "centralist" and get rid of some of these fruity christians and anti gay knuckleheads.
i think that'll be best for everyone. intolerance blows.

Hopefully people in ontario will see how misguided the liberals are and see that the conservatives are not republicans and will not dismantle health care + have these huge tax cuts for the weathy.

Hopefully, they will get rid of the crazy gun control act, change the crazy EI system. 750 hours working = gravy TRAIN!!! And put some money into the military....
i didn't vote liberal anyways... go ndp. (to be fair, the ndp candidate in my riding was the only candidate to show up to a debate about health care in my riding... i voted partially because i figured that if she actually has the dedication to show up, then she might have the same dedication in representing my riding, and also, the ndp's suggestion to get rid of gst on feminine hygene products sounded nice, as did their support of funding for transit and such...)

however, i wouldn't go so far as to say that the libreals are misguided... and to be honest, i would prefer a party that values human rights to one that doesn't any day.

Personally, I think its time to get a new leader for the Cs. One a little less alberta i guess...
perhaps one a little less insane and wanting to discriminate against people who are different?

i dunno, i heard that the conservatives did lose a chunk of their voters who considered the new party too right wing.

Ya i would not doubt that they would.

I am hoping for a weird christain party to splinter off the Cs. That would be huge, many many people in the center would flock to the Cs then i would think....

And Jean Charest (quebec's PM) for being the most conservative liberal I've ever seen.

That's probably because he was the leader of the federal Conservative party until the Liberals offered him provincial leader of Quebec.


I'm not a big fan of the Conservative party that's ruling here in Nova Scotia. The Liberals would have done a much better job of reducing our huge debt and getting a better off shore deal.

I'm sorry I find Carolyn Parrish to be hilarious. She makes Canadian politics worth following these days.
Yeah, unlike Paul Martin she's definitely got balls.

I am hoping for a weird christain party to splinter off the Cs. That would be huge, many many people in the center would flock to the Cs then i would think....

It's been done before. They called themselves the Reform Party. And now they call themselves the Conservative Party. But I personally don't know any traditionally Progressive Conservative voters who trust them enough to give them their vote. They're not into weirdo Christian social conservatism - not like in Red Deer.

That's probably because he was the leader of the federal Conservative party until the Liberals offered him provincial leader of Quebec.


That's why I despise him. He's a flip-flopper who will espouse any cause if it means he will gain power.

Are you stupid? They would cut crap like EI and then cut taxes, they are not going to into deficiet again. What are you smoking?

What are you smokeing dummy, ha you think theres 55 billion in EI a year to cut. Looks like your the stupid one eh.

As of last night the court gave parlament authority to vote on gay marrige lol, this is it boys, if the conservative party can't block it will they be declared a failure? with gay marrage out of the way all the liberlas need to do now is resolve to make a pro choice law and the conservatives two strongest tools at getting religious votes will be knocked off their feet.Sweet jesus this rocks!

just a little info bit, there is an interview with martin on cbc right now for anyone who is interested 10:36 est