NationStates Jolt Archive

Just curious.

the convicted.

Those imprisoned for non-violent drug crimes in the USA.

potheads all over the world

Those imprisoned for non-violent drug crimes in the USA.

Yes. And I would add anyone arrested for prostitution, tax crimes, or weapon possession.

The Shankhill Butchers... oh, hang on, they have already been let out under the tems of the NI Peace process...

Political prisoners who were imprisoned to silence their ideas. Basically anyone who's inside just because their ideas didn't please the political power in place.

The innocent

Or perhaps more seriously

Those in Guantanamo bay against whom no charges have been yet presented.

Those who are mentally under the age of responsibility

Probably think of a load of others soon.

Most people imprisoned under the War on Terror.

Basically, if the evidence for someone's imprisonment cannot be presented to society, then they should not be in prison. That is the deal which democracy is supposed to offer, it is sad to see it being broken.

Most people imprisoned under the War on Terror.

Basically, if the evidence for someone's imprisonment cannot be presented to society, then they should not be in prison. That is the deal which democracy is supposed to offer, it is sad to see it being broken.

There's a techincal problem with that. There isn't a public list of the names.

Yes. And I would add anyone arrested for prostitution, tax crimes, or weapon possession.
Good point. I forgot a lot of other needlessly persecuted people.

There's a techincal problem with that. There isn't a public list of the names.
That in itself is also ridiculous. Prison is a punishment imposed by society, after an individual is judged by society for his/her alleged crimes. Placing justice into the shadows, that's not right.

That in itself is also ridiculous. Prison is a punishment imposed by society, after an individual is judged by society for his/her alleged crimes. Placing justice into the shadows, that's not right.

I agree but I also have to say that it is not right for a society that weighs from 50.1% to have a right to push their beliefs upon the other 49.9%. Even if its a more biased % it still is not right or a right. That is why societies always fail (change) eventually. Changes happen after realizing the current direction is failing. How much has any society changed through out its history? Constantly. Any reason for that?

1 individual: Leonard Peltier (http://www.freepeltier.org/)
1 Group: those convicted of so called "victemless crimes"

1 Group: those convicted of so called "victemless crimes"

And what would you class as a victimless crime?

Just curious like?

Those imprisoned for non-violent drug crimes in the USA.

Yes. And I would add anyone arrested for prostitution, tax crimes, or weapon possession.


I agree with these two.

That in itself is also ridiculous. Prison is a punishment imposed by society, after an individual is judged by society for his/her alleged crimes. Placing justice into the shadows, that's not right.

Indeed it is ridiculous. I have thought that it implies that you don't have the conviction of your own beliefs if you're not willing to name those whom you wish to punish.

If we have a group of people imprisoned, there should be a public list of names and charges.

And what would you class as a victimless crime?

Just curious like?
Shooting federal agents, like Leonard Peltier did.

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(Bonus points if you know where that's from...)

I'd free the world from the prison of Political Correctness!

I would free all those that were imprisoned for consensual crimes. (See the book "Ain't Nobody's Business") That would include all criminals involved with drugs, prostitution, gambling, unpopular medical treatments, unpopular political views, and many, many others.

I would free all those that were imprisoned for consensual crimes. (See the book "Ain't Nobody's Business") That would include all criminals involved with drugs, prostitution, gambling, unpopular medical treatments, unpopular political views, and many, many others.
statutory rape?

And what would you class as a victimless crime?

Just curious like?

Punchin someone in the dark!

(Simpsons reference)

And what would you class as a victimless crime?

Just curious like?

Primarily drug offenses and prostitution.

Shooting federal agents, like Leonard Peltier did.

No. :(
Peltier was a wrongful conviction, and that needs to be corrected. He was, furthermore, wrongfully extradited from Canada on the basis of a fraudulent affidavit. This is a shameful episode in US justice, on the level of Vanzetti. Clinton's mercenary refusal of a pardon, while granting pardons to many others in exchange for favors, and possibly even cash, is especially shameful.

Can I go back in time and free the innocent David Milgard before his 22 year incarceration caused him the irrevocable dammage it did?

That story makes me so terribly sad. :(

Ill add Mandela and a few others to that list as well, these types of imprisonment are so awful! Truly, you are takin a persons life away more than even by killing them.

It breaks my heart. :(

Can I go back in time and free the innocent David Milgard before his 22 year incarceration caused him the irrevocable dammage it did?

That story makes me so terribly sad. :(
Who's David Milgard?

Slight sp mistake there, I missed it, its actually David Milgaard I believe, and he is a Canadian who was wrongfully convicted of murder, and imprisoned for 22 years. Due to the nature of the crime he was accused of, he was treated very badly in prison (beaten, raped), the effects of which were mental degradation and eventual (near) insanity. Though he argued against it vehemently, his plea's were largely ignored, as were those of family members who tried to help free him. He was essentially imprisoned based on stereotypes, and because the police were in need of a scapegoat to calm public concern of the force's inability to solve the crime. There was a very good story on CBC about it in Canada, and there are several books as well.

Its one of the saddest stories I can think of like that. :(

Uh... I don't know... Martha Stewart - why imprison her while Halliburton is able to run amok?

Uh... I don't know... Martha Stewart - why imprison her while Halliburton is able to run amok?

Besides, she keeps such a nifty looking kitchen...

My insane grandfather who doesn't existe.

Sherman Austin and Mumia Abu-Jamal

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South park, i will take my bonus points please.

None. Execute them and clean out the prisons. Cheaper that way.

Just curious.
The political detainees in China, Cuba and North Korea.

Sherman Austin and Mumia Abu-Jamal


South park, i will take my bonus points please.

We have a correct answer!

You get 37 points, or can double it in the physical challenge round. :D