NationStates Jolt Archive

So, in the leadup to the election in Iowa Bush wanted to show just how good his tax cuts were. So he trotted out a nice young couple to demonstrate how it has helped: (http://www.grassleyworks.com/grassley/wrapper.jsp?PID=4090-69&CID=4090-100604A)

Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.
Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.

They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.

"Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.

Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.

He said he supports Bush's values.

"The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.

"Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.



Anyone suprised that he picked such a nice, Christian example to reinforce his self-promotion as the beacon of morality to the country?

Clearly, his character judgement has remained just as good as it was when he decided that Chalabi was the guy who really knew what was going inside Iraq... (http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/3976822/detail.html)

A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.
KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.

Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.




Yep, endorsement of "moral superiority" from guys like that are just what you want in a leader...

He's just the Republicans! Nice and clean on the outside, and totally rotten inside. :p

It is odd how all of these supposedly more "moral" Republican states that decry the evils of ideas from New England that will surely corrupt their "family values" generally have both the highest divorce rates and teen pregnancy rates in the country isn't it?


They sure talk the talk. It's the walking the walk part that they seem to have dificulty with...

No wonder they think the patriot act doesn't go far enough. Talk about crappy background checks.

That's really funny!
Wish it'd happened a couple of months earlier.

Next Bush will trot out a spotted Owl couple who'll say they don't need all those ugly trees and a couple of Polar bears who'll tell the media how much they're looking forward to the oil rigs on their hunting grounds.

That's really funny!
Wish it'd happened a couple of months earlier.

Next Bush will trot out a spotted Owl couple who'll say they don't need all those ugly trees and a couple of Polar bears who'll tell the media how much they're looking forward to the oil rigs on their hunting grounds.


I wouldn't put it past him..... IF he were eligible for re-election.

Thankfully - he's done!

I wouldn't put it past him..... IF he were eligible for re-election.

Thankfully - he's done!
You do know that they view their comprehensive re-election as mandate to push through all the enviromental law-gutting changes they wanted to do in the first term, but lost when it went to senate?
Now they have a strong majority and a few of the pro-enviromental protection senators have retired, so it's carte blanche in their eyes.
I read in the paper the other day a Bush admin official saying they equate the win in the popular vote for Bush as strong public support for GWB environmental plans. Which is reducing the strength and effectiveness of the Clean Air act, opening up the Alaskan wilderness to oil companies, allowing logging of the last few remaining areas of natural American rainforest, and reducing the numbers of protected species (that is the number of species on the protected list, but of course by doing so you will be reducing the number of protected species), and reducing the compliance rules that companies have to make regarding environmental effects when building on sensitive sites, among other things. And of course still refusing to sign the Kyoto accord, claiming it's based on false science (I guess science that's not found in the Bible).
And of course to make all this plausible, they'll need to market it right. So you will probably see spotted owls hurrahing about trees getting felled on your TV screens soon.

Welcome to the US, GWB style. Just make sure you hold your breath when you go outside if you don't have an air-filter unit handy.

If you'll read your history, you'll note that the Clean Air Act was invalidated by the SCOTUS in 1997. As were most Acts under the auspices of the EPA (a part of the government created by Richard Nixon, that evil, evil man).

People have only been "abiding" by its provisions since then on a voluntary basis. There is NO legal basis for it to be enforced. Read your court briefs.

I suggest that you then ask, "why is the Bush administration paying attention to it at all?"

You might also find the lackluster defense of the Clean Air Act before SCOTUS by the Clinton Administration. Seems that they weren't too interested in defending it, either.

Hmm. Maybe Clinton was really A REPUBLICAN!

If you'll read your history, you'll note that the Clean Air Act was invalidated by the SCOTUS in 1997. As were most Acts under the auspices of the EPA (a part of the government created by Richard Nixon, that evil, evil man).

People have only been "abiding" by its provisions since then on a voluntary basis. There is NO legal basis for it to be enforced. Read your court briefs.

I suggest that you then ask, "why is the Bush administration paying attention to it at all?"

You might also find the lackluster defense of the Clean Air Act before SCOTUS by the Clinton Administration. Seems that they weren't too interested in defending it, either.

Hmm. Maybe Clinton was really A REPUBLICAN!

Ah yes, you must be the conspiracy master. Tell us, TELL US what other crazy conspiracy that you might have.

If you'll read your history, you'll note that the Clean Air Act was invalidated by the SCOTUS in 1997. As were most Acts under the auspices of the EPA (a part of the government created by Richard Nixon, that evil, evil man).

People have only been "abiding" by its provisions since then on a voluntary basis. There is NO legal basis for it to be enforced. Read your court briefs.

I suggest that you then ask, "why is the Bush administration paying attention to it at all?"

You might also find the lackluster defense of the Clean Air Act before SCOTUS by the Clinton Administration. Seems that they weren't too interested in defending it, either.

Hmm. Maybe Clinton was really A REPUBLICAN!


Both political parties are corporate lapdogs. One just pretends not to be and so moves slower. Moving slower is better. Not good, just better than the alternative.

Hmm. Maybe Clinton was really A REPUBLICAN!

Yeah, of course he was. That's the only kind of Democrat you people are willing to elect. Someone virtually indistinguishable from a Republican. What's your point, dude?

How interesting that you brought up something that happened over a month ago about an election that has already happened.

Yes, very interesting... :rolleyes:

No wonder they think the patriot act doesn't go far enough. Talk about crappy background checks.

Nahh that's just Goverment in action.

I remember a case where Gov. Wilson was a function to reward two outstanding teachers. Part of that Republicans like education thing.

One guy got his reward then the other said "I have something for you."

He then trotted out a blownup pinkslip and said he was laid off due to budget cuts by the state. ;)

hmmm so just a question why do preachers always go for children...usually male....ummmmm thats just weird do you have to be gay or somthing to be a preacher lol ok well if this offends anyone sorry but I really want an answer :p

Whats REALLY funny about this...lol...is that i used to live near Clive (it is a suburb of Des Moines). It is also the most well-off suburb (we're talking mansions). What did these people need a goddamn woodburning stove for? Come on now.

Now the funny part...my boyfriend married his ex-wife at that church. Hahahahaha.

Whats REALLY funny about this...lol...is that i used to live near Clive (it is a suburb of Des Moines). It is also the most well-off suburb (we're talking mansions). What did these people need a goddamn woodburning stove for? Come on now.

Now the funny part...my boyfriend married his ex-wife at that church. Hahahahaha.


Oh yeah...and its SUPER born again christian too. Yikes.

Hmm. Maybe Clinton was really A REPUBLICAN!
No, he was a Democrat (it's really just a name anyway), but he was a conservative.