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YOU MAY BE A FUNDAMENTAL ATHEIST IF........

Existence of God

1. You became an atheist when you were 10 years old, based on ideas of God that you learned in Sunday School. Your ideas about God haven't changed since.

2. You think that the primary aim of an omnibenevolent God is for people to have FUN.

3. You believe that extra drippy ice-cream is a logical proof against the existence of God, because an omniscient God would know how to stop the ice-cream from being extra drippy, an omnipotent God would have the ability to stop the ice-cream from being extra drippy, and by golly, an omnibenevolent God wouldn't want your ice-cream to be extra drippy.

4. Although you've memorized a half a dozen proofs that He doesn't exist, you still think you're God's gift to the ignorant masses.

5. You believe the astronomical size of the universe somehow disproves God, as if God needed a tiny universe in order to exist.

6. You think questions like, "Can God create a rock so big that He cannot lift it?" and, "Can God will Himself out of existence?" are perfect examples of how to disprove God's omnipotence and ultimately how to disprove God. When someone proves to you the false logic behind the questions (i.e. pitting God's omnipotence against itself), you desperately try to defend the questions, but then give up and go to a different Christian site to ask them.

7. Related to the above, you spend a great deal of your spare time writing to Christian websites asking them these very questions.

8. You declare on a public forum that you are "furious at God for not existing."

9. You spend hours arguing that a-theism actually means "without a belief in God " and not just " belief that there is no god" as if this is a meaningful distinction in real life.

10. You consistently deny the existence of God because you personally have never seen him but you reject out of hand personal testimony from theists who claim to have experienced God as a reality in their lives.

11. You can make the existence of pink unicorns the center-piece of a philosophical critique.

12. You insist that "the burden of proof is on he that alleges/accuses", and "it's impossible to prove a negative", then state "That's what Christians do. They lie. Their most common lie is that they were once atheists." When reminded about the burden of proof bit, you reply with, "Well, prove Christians don't lie!"

13. You adamantly believe that the "God of the gaps" idea is an essential tenet of orthodox Christian faith espoused by all the great Christian thinkers throughout history.

14. When you were a child, someone came down with a deadly disease and prayed and prayed for God to take it away. God did not remove the disease and your friend died. You ask other Christians why they had to die when they were such a nice person and never harmed anyone. Dissatisfied with their answers, you suddenly decide that there is no God and that all Christians are nothing but lying, conniving con artists and hypocrites....all that is except for your friend who died.

15. You call a view held by less than ten percent of the American public "common sense".

16. You're a spoiled fifteen year old boy who lives in the suburbs and you go into a chat room to declare that, "I know there is no God because no loving God would allow anyone to suffer as much as I...hold on. My cell phone's ringing."

17. You attack your fellow atheists, who hold the "belief that there is no god", calling them "liars," and state that, "I do not deny the existence of any god. I just don't believe in any." Then you tell someone that their God is "made up." When someone calls you on this, you state, "I never made such a claim."

18. Going with the definition of "without a belief in God", you insist that all people are born atheists, and that dogs, cats, rocks, and trees are as well. You make statements like, "My dog is an atheist. Ask him about his lack of belief."

19. You believe that if something cannot be touched, seen, heard, or measured in some way, then it must not exist, yet you fail to see the irony of your calling Christians "narrow-minded".

20. You say that there is no God and that those who believe in God do so in blind faith, yet your claim that there is no God also rests on blind faith.

21. While you don't believe in God, you feel justified on bashing God or attacking those who believe in something that you KNOW doesn't exist, fighting against or even discussing about a non-existent being are the symptoms of mental illness!

22. You complain when Christians appeal to their emotions when justifying their belief in God yet you feel justified on appealing to your emotions for lack of belief in God.

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Wow came in thinking it would be funny

But just got impressed with how incorrect it is

Wow came in thinking it would be funny

But just got impressed with how incorrect it is

Yes I know!

All those innacuracies you pointed out!

Yes I know!

All those innacuracies you pointed out!
Do not need to … I don’t feel like doing a point by point on a joke thread … I don’t take life that seriously (if you honestly need me to on a joke thread you posted then I am not sure you could handle the explanation)

Do not need to … I don’t feel like doing a point by point on a joke thread … I don’t take life that seriously (if you honestly need me to on a joke thread you posted then I am not sure you could handle the explanation)

I don't feel like talking to you but it's still relatively entertaining.

Go and watch the Matrix some more you fat, sweaty, spotty, teenage atheist.

I don't feel like talking to you but it's still relatively entertaining.

Go and watch the Matrix some more you fat, sweaty, spotty, teenage atheist.
Yikes all this judgment

:) I like how you got them all wrong

Underweight

22 (not a teen)
(spotty guessing local term not familiar with it, unless you mean actual spots)

Nor am I an atheist (am agnostic)
(and only saw the Matrix once so maybe I will go rent it and watch it again)

Yikes all this judgment

:) I like how you got them all wrong

Underweight

22 (not a teen)
(spotty guessing local term not familiar with it, unless you mean actual spots)

Nor am I an atheist (am agnostic)
(and only saw the Matrix once so maybe I will go rent it and watch it again)
Atheists like you are just as dogmatic and evangelical in your beliefs as the Christian Fundamentalist screaming from the pulpit. Atheism is a rebellious streak among teens that makes them feel as though they are opposing the system. Like you.

Atheists like you are just as dogmatic and evangelical in your beliefs as the Christian Fundamentalist screaming from the pulpit. Atheism is a rebellious streak among teens that makes them feel as though they are opposing the system. Like you.
Man, if you're going to troll, learn to be subtle, at least.

Atheists like you are just as dogmatic and evangelical in your beliefs as the Christian Fundamentalist screaming from the pulpit. Atheism is a rebellious streak among teens that makes them feel as though they are opposing the system. Like you.
Did I not just say I am not atheist? I am agnostic

Do you need me to explain the differences?

Man, if you're going to troll, learn to be subtle, at least.
At least he/she is entertaining

This "united states of europe" guy is religious and conservative, a typical fundie-christian. It looks like he has a vendetta against Atheism. He has a new nation too, probably made this new screenname so that his original name won't be banned.

But yea, thank "god" that someday religion will die out. Because of this, I feel compelled to create a new sig just for you.

Atheists like you are just as dogmatic and evangelical in your beliefs as the Christian Fundamentalist screaming from the pulpit. Atheism is a rebellious streak among teens that makes them feel as though they are opposing the system. Like you.

Or maybe it's because we don't want to be like you? If everyone was like you, the world would be a scary place.

I'm betting that this is a joke. Too stupid to be serious.

I'm 27 and an atheist. Not going through a teenage rebellious streak.

8. You declare on a public forum that you are "furious at God for not existing."
That one is probably my favorite one. I seriously doubt that has ever happened. A poor caricature of atheists.

Kinda funny, but a little too piquant for this early in the morning.

God let's hope so*. Though 'too stupid to be serious' is a phrase that you'll see proved wrong a thousand times each day, unfortunately.


*Yes, I am aware of the irony contained in the use of that expression.

This "united states of europe" guy is religious and conservative, a typical fundie-christian. It looks like he has a vendetta against Atheism.

Nope, I'm a socialist as a matter of fact. But I despise Libertarians and Atheists.

Oh and like you don't have a vendetta against every concievable form of religion?

This "united states of europe" guy is religious and conservative, a typical fundie-christian. It looks like he has a vendetta against Atheism. He has a new nation too, probably made this new screenname so that his original name won't be banned.
No, I'm not sure it's the same guy. It could be someone trying to get at the original.

Nope, I'm a socialist as a matter of fact. But I despise Libertarians and Atheists.

Oh and like you don't have a vendetta against every concievable form of religion?
I apologise, it looks like I'm wrong. Bye bye, see you in your next incarnation.

Nope, I'm a socialist as a matter of fact. But I despise Libertarians and Atheists.

Oh and like you don't have a vendetta against every concievable form of religion?
Again assuming he is atheist … silly

That one is probably my favorite one. I seriously doubt that has ever happened. A poor caricature of atheists.

Of course, you are the master race!

It's amazing how Atheists can't even acknowledge that one of 'their kind' (as they are so clanish) could possibly be as ignorant as one of 'those stupid religious people hahahaha'.

Of course, you are the master race!

It's amazing how Atheists can't even acknowledge that one of 'their kind' (as they are so clanish) could possibly be as ignorant as one of 'those stupid religious people hahahaha'.
Again you assume that person is an atheist supporting their views … I’m not one … they might not be one either.
How do you KNOW?

Nope, I'm a socialist as a matter of fact. But I despise Libertarians and Atheists.

Oh and like you don't have a vendetta against every concievable form of religion?

I don't believe in God. I also don't believe in witches, pixies, ghosts, bogles, magic, crystal healing, astrology or general mumbo-jumbo. Why you think there is a significant and qualitative difference between absence of belief in one imaginary entity, and absence of belief in a whole host of imaginary entities, I don't know. I prefer the term "not superstitious", myself.

As for "fundamentalist": as far as I'm concerned, you can adhere to whatever set of beliefs floats your particular boat. Seriously. Knock yourself out. Believe in as many impossible things as you like before breakfast. Tertullian said "credo quia absurdum": at least he had the balls to admit it.

I don't believe in God. I also don't believe in witches, pixies, ghosts, bogles, magic, crystal healing, astrology or general mumbo-jumbo. Why you think there is a significant and qualitative difference between absence of belief in one imaginary entity, and absence of belief in a whole host of imaginary entities, I don't know. I prefer the term "not superstitious", myself.

As for "fundamentalist": as far as I'm concerned, you can adhere to whatever set of beliefs floats your particular boat. Seriously. Knock yourself out. Believe in as many impossible things as you like before breakfast. Tertullian said "credo quia absurdum": at least he had the balls to admit it.

Your last comment proves your complete lack of tolerance that your profess to have so much of. The lowering in moral standards is coupled with the rise of atheism, ever wondered why? Because Atheists HAVE NO MORALS!

They would let their ten year old daughter go out and suck off a 17 year old because they are Libertarians and they feel it is 'her choice' - Paedophilia doesn't run rampant in Arab countries? Why? Because they still have basic morals and Atheism doesn't have that!

Your last comment proves your complete lack of tolerance that your profess to have so much of. The lowering in moral standards is coupled with the rise of atheism, ever wondered why? Because Atheists HAVE NO MORALS!

They would let their ten year old daughter go out and suck off a 17 year old because they are Libertarians and they feel it is 'her choice' - Paedophilia doesn't run rampant in Arab countries? Why? Because they still have basic morals and Atheism doesn't have that!
Oh?
Morals != religion might want to pull out a dictionary


And if you want to talk about pedophiles that you attribute to atheism … you might want to look at some real experts in the field … catholic priests. Cause obviously their belief in god helped them molest a few more alter boys “for the cause of good”

Your last comment proves your complete lack of tolerance that your profess to have so much of. The lowering in moral standards is coupled with the rise of atheism, ever wondered why? Because Atheists HAVE NO MORALS!

They would let their ten year old daughter go out and suck off a 17 year old because they are Libertarians and they feel it is 'her choice' - Paedophilia doesn't run rampant in Arab countries? Why? Because they still have basic morals and Atheism doesn't have that!

What are you talking about? Arab countries have rampant paedophilia and raping of women.

Oh?
Morals != religion might want to pull out a dictionary


And if you want to talk about pedophiles that you attribute to atheism … you might want to look at some real experts in the field … catholic priests. Cause obviously their belief in god helped them molest a few more alter boys “for the cause of good”

Thats the only argument you Atheist have isn't it? The fact a small minority of Catholic Priests behaved in this way. How about I blame Stalin and Mao's crimes on Atheism, clearly you would state they are not based on it but you have used the perversion of a position within the church to justify an attack upon the teachings of religion itself.

What are you talking about? Arab countries have rampant paedophilia and raping of women.

Arab countries hardly have any paedophilia because it is Western countries with their corruption that have it.

What are you talking about? Arab countries have rampant paedophilia and raping of women.

*grins* proving the need to convert the arab countries at the point of the bayonet.

Thats the only argument you Atheist have isn't it? The fact a small minority of Catholic Priests behaved in this way. How about I blame Stalin and Mao's crimes on Atheism, clearly you would state they are not based on it but you have used the perversion of a position within the church to justify an attack upon the teachings of religion itself.
So point out some high level atheist “leaders” that have been convicted of pedophilia

There is a good strong precedent in religion as a whole of just that same thing (along with a good streak of incest in religious texts)

And if you want to be technical atheism in itself is a religion and as such one of the major “justifications” for perpetrating evil in of itself (Russia was more an example of a church imposed orthodox state) but Mao was defiantly another example of how a religion can be used by those that want to. (by I should also be saying “Is that all you (fill in denomination here) have … same old tired argument)

(and again you say “you atheists” I am not an atheist) or cant you understand that simple statement?

Arab countries hardly have any paedophilia because it is Western countries with their corruption that have it.
So because one side has it the other can’t? Seems rather silly logic

Sure you did alright on that IQ test? Maybe you are off by a factor of 10

Just received a message from God - says he's disowning United State of Europe for being a buffoon.

So point out some high level atheist “leaders” that have been convicted of pedophilia

There is a good strong precedent in religion as a whole of just that same thing (along with a good streak of incest in religious texts)

And if you want to be technical atheism in itself is a religion and as such one of the major “justifications” for perpetrating evil in of itself (Russia was more an example of a church imposed orthodox state) but Mao was defiantly another example of how a religion can be used by those that want to. (by I should also be saying “Is that all you (fill in denomination here) have … same old tired argument)

(and again you say “you atheists” I am not an atheist) or cant you understand that simple statement?

You obviously would like to see an end to organized religion yes?

You hate anyone who is religious yes?

You are a Libertarian who believe gays should be allowed to get married yes?

Just received a message from God - says he's disowning United State of Europe for being a buffoon.
Note to self: use the word "buffoon" more often in daily conversation.

Arabs abuse women, end of story. I've heard too many stories and read too many news articles about it. It's not that arabs are evil, it's just that their religion creates an atmosphere of disdainment for women.

I'm sure some muslims are great . . . but I can't ignore all those news articles either.

Arabs abuse women, end of story. I've heard too many stories and read too many news articles about it. It's not that arabs are evil, it's just that their religion creates an atmosphere of disdainment for women.

I'm sure some muslims are great . . . but I can't ignore all those news articles either.
It's got a lot more to do with the whole culture than specifically their religion.

You obviously would like to see an end to organized religion yes?

You hate anyone who is religious yes?

You are a Libertarian who believe gays should be allowed to get married yes?
No I don’t hate organized religion … though it is readily abused throughout history. I am fine with them as long as they don’t bother me (I may find religion silly but that’s not the same as hate)(live and let live)

No I don’t … I would have to hate most of my family if I did (actually all of it …) like I said live and let live

Not a libertarian (are you sure your using it in the correct context?)

And I think that gays should be allowed civil unions (actually I think in the eyes of the law EVERY couple should be able to get a civil union with an optional “marriage” title if it is ok with their religion)
But that’s alright with me
(Europe is setting a great example for tolerance in these sorts of areas hopefully we can follow suit) Actually Canada has is doing fairly good too.

Surprised this thread is still going. Why do you guys keep fencing with someone who is either a troll, or unable (lack of intelligence) or unwilling to understand what you are saying? There are plenty of (more) intelligent and reasonable people out there with whom to debate this issue.

Surprised this thread is still going. Why do you guys keep fencing with someone who is either a troll, or unable (lack of intelligence) or unwilling to understand what you are saying? There are plenty of (more) intelligent and reasonable people out there with whom to debate this issue.
Like I said kind of fun playing with someone as intellectually harmless as that guy/girl

at least I get a laugh

Your last comment proves your complete lack of tolerance that your profess to have so much of. The lowering in moral standards is coupled with the rise of atheism, ever wondered why? Because Atheists HAVE NO MORALS!

They would let their ten year old daughter go out and suck off a 17 year old because they are Libertarians and they feel it is 'her choice' - Paedophilia doesn't run rampant in Arab countries? Why? Because they still have basic morals and Atheism doesn't have that!
do you have any evidence at all to back that up? no, of course you don't, because the facts are simply against you:

"A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. But the second best predictor is conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their father, the second most significant clue is whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes." (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van Leeuwen, 1990).

indeed, statistics show that (in America, specifically) belonging to a strongly religious home INCREASES a child's chances of being physically or sexually abused, INCREASES the child's likelihood of having or participating in a pregnancy out of wedlock, and INCREASES the child's likelihood of dying from violent injury.

what morals were you talking about again? clearly not honesty, since you posted a statement that is a blatant self-serving lie, and clearly not honor, since you put your personal religious agenda ahead of both the truth and the well-being of children. i think the religious members of this forum should be insulted and embarassed by your behavior. i can only hope it was really just poorly-delivered humor.

do you have any evidence at all to back that up? no, of course you don't, because the facts are simply against you:

"A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. But the second best predictor is conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their father, the second most significant clue is whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes." (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van Leeuwen, 1990).

indeed, statistics show that (in America, specifically) belonging to a strongly religious home INCREASES a child's chances of being physically or sexually abused, INCREASES the child's likelihood of having or participating in a pregnancy out of wedlock, and INCREASES the child's likelihood of dying from violent injury.

what morals were you talking about again? clearly not honesty, since you posted a statement that is a blatant self-serving lie, and clearly not honor, since you put your personal religious agenda ahead of both the truth and the well-being of children. i think the religious members of this forum should be insulted and embarassed by your behavior. i can only hope it was really just poorly-delivered humor.

I thought this guy was trolling but from what I can see from his posts all over he really is that much of an idiot

It’s kind of sad (for the whole human race)

United States of Europe, your Thread started out so intelligently, and then you start trolling. The points you made are very insightful, but insulting that agnostic guy completely ruined your credibility.

Many of those points describe a large number of the Atheists on these forums . . . but a large number of so-called "Christians" are nothing more than Bigots. What ever happened to Love Thy Neighbour as thyself?

I think we can all agree that there are a large number of Hypocrites on these forums, whether they are Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Agnostic, or whatever - just like in real life. It's the Hypocrites that stand out that reflect badly on the group as a whole.

For example, I'd hardly use Bush as a typical exapmle of an American, or a True Christian, I like to think of Martin Luther King as a Better example in that regard. (But hey, I'm Canadian, I'm allowed to be optimistic right?)

And I wouldn't use Mao, Lenin, or Stalin as examples of typical Atheists either, I'd use . . . I'm drawing a blank here, but one of my buddies is a devout Atheist, and he's basically a pretty good guy.

Peace! . . . And Many Fluffles :fluffle:

;)

Sorry, I meant Martin Luther King Jr., But I'm sure his Dad was a great guy too. :)

United States of Europe, your Thread started out so intelligently, and then you start trolling. The points you made are very insightful, but insulting that agnostic guy completely ruined your credibility.

Many of those points describe a large number of the Atheists on these forums . . . but a large number of so-called "Christians" are nothing more than Bigots. What ever happened to Love Thy Neighbour as thyself?

I think we can all agree that there are a large number of Hypocrites on these forums, whether they are Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Agnostic, or whatever - just like in real life. It's the Hypocrites that stand out that reflect badly on the group as a whole.

For example, I'd hardly use Bush as a typical exapmle of an American, or a True Christian, I like to think of Martin Luther King as a Better example in that regard. (But hey, I'm Canadian, I'm allowed to be optimistic right?)

And I wouldn't use Mao, Lenin, or Stalin as examples of typical Atheists either, I'd use . . . I'm drawing a blank here, but one of my buddies is a devout Atheist, and he's basically a pretty good guy.

Peace! . . . And Many Fluffles :fluffle:

;)


Lol at least you understood the difference between atheism and agnosticism … and my originally arguing with him was because of both inaccuracies and some flawed points (not saying all atheism is good or religion bad) but at least make an intelligent argument
I am willing to take up any side or see just about any POV unless you are an idiot … then I always take the other side :) if he had been that dumb arguing FOR atheism (or against religion) I would have fought him on it too

*laughs*

I got to the moral part. Just thought I'd put some things down.
I'm Atheist.
I have never had any alcohol. Nor have I had sex. Nor have I smoked. I have never had weed, or taken something from a store without paying for it. I give to charity, and even at one point shaved my head for Cancer. I have helped kids learn to read at the public library, and referee'd soccer.

I do all this optionally.

But, despite all this. I am doomed to hell. And am somehow a Man of no moral's or ethic's. All because I don't worship some mythical figure.

;) I'll be the first 'mormon' you'll ever meet in hell I guess.

Oh boy! It's time for me to bring in my paper on Athiesm! ^_^ I'll also include a link to my slides on this. It includes an explanation of secularism and athiesm, and explains the different types as well as history.

The Documentation (http://chikita.seiryuuheaven.net/worldreligions.doc)
Power Point Slides (http://chikita.seiryuuheaven.net/present(3).ppt)

Your last comment proves your complete lack of tolerance that your profess to have so much of. The lowering in moral standards is coupled with the rise of atheism, ever wondered why? Because Atheists HAVE NO MORALS!

I'm sorry, which part of my last comment do you feel indicates my intolerance? The part where I said I don't care what you believe? Or the sentiment that at least Tertullian was prepared to admit his faith had no rational basis? Irrationality has an ancient and honoured place in Christian theology. St Augustine of Hippo said as much himself: "You cannot reach God by reason alone." Personally, I think that's a pretty good reason not to "reach God", but if you want to push past reason's limits it really doesn't bother me.

Mind you, I take exception to your claim that, because I'm not superstitious, I "have no morals". I think I have quite a lot of morals, and I'm even happy to admit that many of them are derived from neoplatonist and Christian thought: I just don't believe that they have a supernatural origin. However, when one walks off the edge of reason, no doubt one comes up with all sorts of odd opinions, hence the following, which I don't feel needs any further comment:

They would let their ten year old daughter go out and suck off a 17 year old because they are Libertarians and they feel it is 'her choice' - Paedophilia doesn't run rampant in Arab countries? Why? Because they still have basic morals and Atheism doesn't have that!

Oh boy! It's time for me to bring in my paper on Athiesm! ^_^ I'll also include a link to my slides on this. It includes an explanation of secularism and athiesm, and explains the different types as well as history.

The Documentation (http://chikita.seiryuuheaven.net/worldreligions.doc)
Power Point Slides (http://chikita.seiryuuheaven.net/present(3).ppt)
Don’t think he/she can handle anything over the 1 page mark … maybe we should make an outline with short point by point explanations
(not sure he/she would understand that either but better chance)

'A closed mind has little chance of being re-opened. Unless, of course, explosives are used' - me.

Your last comment proves your complete lack of tolerance that your profess to have so much of. The lowering in moral standards is coupled with the rise of atheism, ever wondered why? Because Atheists HAVE NO MORALS!

They would let their ten year old daughter go out and suck off a 17 year old because they are Libertarians and they feel it is 'her choice' - Paedophilia doesn't run rampant in Arab countries? Why? Because they still have basic morals and Atheism doesn't have that!

It is an extreme fallacy to claim that morality must necessarily come from a divine source to be considered legitimate. Unethical Biblical passages aside (especially those that claim the acceptability of the murder of your wife and her people, genocide, trickery into genital mutilation so as to render oneself incapable of self-defense as well as rampant rape), ethical systems are universally based on the needs of a society. Even those that are secular understand the need to respect morality - perhaps not for the sake of fear of the afterlife, but rather for the sake of a stronger, better life in the present.

Atheists have morals. The vast majority of us follow some variant of existentialism (meaning a strong sense of respnsibility toward our actions and our environment), or Social Contract (the desire to operate within a society so as to increase the quality of life of everyone).

What you are confusing, however, is the distinction between morals and virtues. We all have moral codes, but not all of us share the same virtues. For example, you place a stronger importance on sexual restriction and see chaste people as being good people, while many atheists place a stronger importance upon personal freedom.

So, if you really want to debate with us, and not just throw meaningless stereotypes around and call them arguments, then focus on what is really important in these issues: debate virtue ethics with us. At least then we can find some sort of common ground, because as it stands, we can never accept the existence or legitimacy of your god, an neither can you accept our views on the same topic.

Don’t think he/she can handle anything over the 1 page mark … maybe we should make an outline with short point by point explanations
(not sure he/she would understand that either but better chance)
;) that's what the powerpoint slides are for - the summary of the paper. It also has an explanation of the different types of atheism.

If I was a religious type of person, my cynicism would drive me to appreciate this kind of thing and probably make some of it myself.

However, I'm an atheist, and pretty much none of those points applied, plus it wasn't all that funny. Making fun of atheists for being atheists is like something out of a Christian Comedy theater. The kind where they tell rip-offs of dirty jokes but leave out the sinful words and say "Amen" at the end of the act. Haha! You don't like atheists! How funny!

I'm curious, United States of Europe, what religious faith are you, specifically?

;) that's what the powerpoint slides are for - the summary of the paper. It also has an explanation of the different types of atheism.
Still to advanced for him/her … got anything in crayon?


Lol
(joking aside I could argue with that no belief graph) atheism is not so much the lack of the belief , more the belief in nothing … hard to explain but I am sure you know what I am talking about
It is a belief … just that there is no deity

Ok, honestly, anyone who says that atheists have no morals becuase they have no god needs to try to think at the level of a ten year old.

I have been an Atheist since forever, and it is not because I can rebel against the system, it is because - (You are not allowed to skim this)
1 - God makes no scientific sence, and sence everything else makes sence scientifically (aside from some feilds of Science, but we will be able to understand them soon)
2 - God, if he/she/it/they exists would honestly have to have the attention span of either a fouryear old or a stoned teenager because - "Woooooaaaaaaahhh they made another nuclear bomb.... like chill out.... Im going to screw up some kids lives now"

There are a slew of other reasons though.

As well, there are no Atheist Morals written down, becuase it isn't a religion, it is a catagory, so there is no written code. So actually do research and then tell me that atheists have no morals...

Well, I consider myself an atheist, and out of all of the posters original points, only one applies - the one about Invisible Pink Unicorns. They're just the coolest.

Atheists like you are just as dogmatic and evangelical in your beliefs as the Christian Fundamentalist screaming from the pulpit. Atheism is a rebellious streak among teens that makes them feel as though they are opposing the system. Like you.


Wicca is a rebellious streak among teens you silly dolt.

For Christ's sake, quit bearing false witness!