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According to world business news reports, Europeans have made bids to buy up to half of a America.

Ah, is this part of some conspiracy to get Americans to eat cheese or something?

According to world business news reports, Europeans have made bids to buy up to half of a America.

Don't worry. Europe will never get a controling interest in Americorp. The Saudi's and the Japanese have the inside track.

I knew it! Those damn commies always wanted to live our life! They just envied our freedom! And they hated us for it! We must bomb them.

*walks off muttering*

Ah, is this part of some conspiracy to get Americans to eat cheese or something?
I happen to like cheese. And we don't have any worth eating, so I am fine with it if they buy the food producing half, then maybe we would have decent choclolate, sausage, and bread to. But i think they are doomed when it comes to wresting the country from the grasps of Microsoft and Wal-Mart

I happen to like cheese. And we don't have any worth eating, so I am fine with it if they buy the food producing half, then maybe we would have decent chocl\olate, sausage, and bread to. But i think they are doomed when it comes to wresting the country from the grasps of Microsoft and Wal-Mart
Yeah, all I want to do is eat food made by the British. Greatest cooks EVER.

Aren't these the same Europeans who are constantly predicting an instant collapse of the american system.

You see how it works. Our hidden masters turn us against one another, and at the same time strengthen their hold over us all. (Look at how much of Europe american oligarchs already control).

Aren't these the same Europeans who are constantly predicting an instant collapse of the american system.

You see how it works. Our hidden masters turn us against one another, and at the same time strengthen their hold over us all. (Look at how much of Europe american oligarchs already control).

So you're saying it IS a conspiracy to get Americans to eat cheese or something...

LOL

American Oligarchs = Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Disney, and possibly Proctor and Gamble

American Oligarchs = Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Disney, and possibly Proctor and Gamble


Ford, GM, Dow, &ct.

But those aren't the oligarchs, those are just corporations. The real question is, who controls these companies? (And I mean really controls them, not the suits that pretend that they are the CEOs).

There is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

I dunno Lacdaemon - what? Is it the Templars or something?

Why don't you stop being so damned cryptic and just come out and say it, whatever you think it is...

I dunno Lacdaemon - what? Is it the Templars or something?

Why don't you stop being so damned cryptic and just come out and say it, whatever you think it is...

I'm still working on it. I'll come out with it all when my research is complete. Suffice to say it has something to do with European royalty, American dynasties and the Bildberg Group.

They can have the half that voted for Bush.

Cheap.

This is what we get for running huge deficits.

1)Europeans buy up all the Treauries that we need to finance our foreign policy and tax-cutting adventures
2)Bush does something really stupid to piss off the rest of the world. Europeans retaliate by calling in the debt owed them.
3)With foreign investment gone and no way to finance our borrow-and-spend ways, the US economy crashes.
4)Europeans come back and buy everything cheap.

OK, so the Saudis, Chinese, and Japanese are in this too. They're competing to see who can pillage America the most :cool:

This is what we get for running huge deficits.

1)Europeans buy up all the Treauries that we need to finance our foreign policy and tax-cutting adventures
2)Bush does something really stupid to piss off the rest of the world. Europeans retaliate by calling in the debt owed them.
3)With foreign investment gone and no way to finance our borrow-and-spend ways, the US economy crashes.
4)Europeans come back and buy everything cheap.

OK, so the Saudis, Chinese, and Japanese are in this too. They're competing to see who can pillage America the most :cool:


They can't call them. They can only sell them in the secondary market, otherwise they have to wait until they mature.

According to world business news reports, Europeans have made bids to buy up to half of a America.

So how likely do you think Japan is to sell?

Don't worry. Europe will never get a controling interest in Americorp. The Saudi's and the Japanese have the inside track.
damn, you beat me to the japanese having already done so bit.

Crap. I'm not as clever as I thought I was.

Didn't DuPont plot to take the country over at some point by building a personal army?

I'd look towards them in this.

Also, the Ford fortune.

Considering Ford helped the bloody NAZIs..

If Japan buys America it can only lead to good things. Like some really neat cyber-punk stuff. And I can be a Blade-Runner!

They can't call them. They can only sell them in the secondary market, otherwise they have to wait until they mature.

Still enough to massively deflate the dollar though, I'm sure. Isn't the value of the dollar intricately tied to these things? Can you say hyperinflation?

I'm still working on it. I'll come out with it all when my research is complete. Suffice to say it has something to do with European royalty, American dynasties and the Bildberg Group.

Bil-DER-berg Group. The Bilderberg Group.

The real question is, who controls these companies? (And I mean really controls them, not the suits that pretend that they are the CEOs).

There is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

Ahh, so you DO suspect the Templars.

Bil-DER-berg Group. The Bilderberg Group.


That's what they want you to think. Those people are so f'ing smart.

That's what they want you to think. Those people are so f'ing smart.

They can't be THAT smart if that's what they want me to think. I mean, come on...

Still enough to massively deflate the dollar though, I'm sure. Isn't the value of the dollar intricately tied to these things? Can you say hyperinflation?


It wouldn't necessarily cause hyperinflation.

You have to remember, that the US economy is still basically sound in many respects. For example the banking system is stable, and if you look at the Royal Dutch Shell problems earlier this year, it seems as if - while not perfect - it's capital markets are still more transparent than the European counterparts. On top of that, in as much as the EU zone holds a lot of US treasuries, we hold a lot of theirs, (as do we hold assets in china and japan), so intentionally crashing the dollar would result in problems for their own currencies as well.

I think the problem is that people are dividing these things along national lines, and it really has nothing to do with national identity. It's to do with capital, and capital knows no citizenship.

It is in no-ones interest around the world to wreck the US economy (at least to the people who count, nevermind the posturing politicians), as it would destroy the economies of japan china and large parts of europe. What would germany do for example?

They can't be THAT smart if that's what they want me to think. I mean, come on...

I dunno, I find it pretty damn convincing. Most people dont even know the *real* name.

Bil-DER-berg Group. The Bilderberg Group.



Ahh, so you DO suspect the Templars.


Templars, Illuminati, The Free Masons, Skull & Bonesmen, super-intelligent mice from stellar cluster 369, take your pick - the rest of us are screwed whoever it is.

Templars, Illuminati, The Free Masons, Skull & Bonesmen, super-intelligent mice from stellar cluster 369, take your pick - the rest of us are screwed whoever it is.

I'm not sure about the Masons. The rest of your list looks good.

It wouldn't necessarily cause hyperinflation.

You have to remember, that the US economy is still basically sound in many respects.

Didn't Herbert Hoover say the same thing? :rolleyes:

I didn't say that a massive divestment of America wouldn't hurt other nations like those in Europe, or China, for that matter. What I did say is that if our cowboy pretzeldent gets too many ideas, the rest of the world might decide that it's time to end American supremacy. Nobody can do that militarily right now (well, at least without nukes getting involved), so they're going to have to resort to economic sabotage. They'll be shooting themselves in the foot, but us in the chest.

I'm not sure about the Masons. The rest of your list looks good.

ROFL! yeah, the Masons really are a pretty benign bunch of johnny-come-lately's. Scientologists have it way over the Masons

Didn't Herbert Hoover say the same thing? :rolleyes:

I didn't say that a massive divestment of America wouldn't hurt other nations like those in Europe, or China, for that matter. What I did say is that if our cowboy pretzeldent gets too many ideas, the rest of the world might decide that it's time to end American supremacy. Nobody can do that militarily right now (well, at least without nukes getting involved), so they're going to have to resort to economic sabotage. They'll be shooting themselves in the foot, but us in the chest.

It's completely different to 1929. The banking system (which was the real bad actor in the great depression) is fundamentally different, as is the manner in which the economy is regulated. (Although Clinton did an awful job with the SEC).

And the "rest of the world" can decide to do whatever it wants. The "rest of the world" does not control the capital that regulates these currency flows. Like I said, it's not a matter of national identity. The people who control the capital are not going to bankrupt themselves out of some notion of supra-national politics or any particular desire to end american hegemony. In fact, if you do control a sizeable chunk of capital, the last thing you want to see is more European power.

Edit: And bad as the self off would be for the US, it would be far worse in the long run for nations like Japan and Germany. Not to mention that they'd never get any oil from the middle east for a few years for pulling that kind of crap.

It's completely different to 1929. The banking system (which was the real bad actor in the great depression) is fundamentally different, as is the manner in which the economy is regulated. (Although Clinton did an awful job with the SEC).

And the "rest of the world" can decide to do whatever it wants. The "rest of the world" does not control the capital that regulates these currency flows. Like I said, it's not a matter of national identity. The people who control the capital are not going to bankrupt themselves out of some notion of supra-national politics or any particular desire to end american hegemony. In fact, if you do control a sizeable chunk of capital, the last thing you want to see is more European power.

Edit: And bad as the self off would be for the US, it would be far worse in the long run for nations like Japan and Germany. Not to mention that they'd never get any oil from the middle east for a few years for pulling that kind of crap.

The same banks that speculated on Enron... :rolleyes:

(Yes, that applies to both Clinton and Bu$h, though the energy fleecing in CA happened mostly while Bu$h instructed the relevant regulatory agencies to look the other way)

This administration is just as corrupt as Hoover's. Why the hell should I trust that the banks are adequately regulated when a corporocrat is in power?

The same banks that speculated on Enron... :rolleyes:

(Yes, that applies to both Clinton and Bu$h, though the energy fleecing in CA happened mostly while Bu$h instructed the relevant regulatory agencies to look the other way)

This administration is just as corrupt as Hoover's. Why the hell should I trust that the banks are adequately regulated when a corporocrat is in power?


Probably becuase the FDIC is independant and has brightline rules regarding banks. And even when they do screw up, people are guaranteed to get their money, unlike the 30s. That is why conditions are different.

Ordinary banks did not speculate on Enron with depositors money. In the Twenties they would have, that is another difference.

Hoover's administration wasn't corrupt, it was powerless. The SEC didn't exist until 34. Nor did agencies like FDIC.

It's really not the same thing at all.

Didn't Herbert Hoover say the same thing? :rolleyes:

I didn't say that a massive divestment of America wouldn't hurt other nations like those in Europe, or China, for that matter. What I did say is that if our cowboy pretzeldent gets too many ideas, the rest of the world might decide that it's time to end American supremacy. Nobody can do that militarily right now (well, at least without nukes getting involved), so they're going to have to resort to economic sabotage. They'll be shooting themselves in the foot, but us in the chest.
Not really, we're self sufficient enough that it really wouldn't be a problem. Also, they would be doing a hell of a lot more than shooting themselves in the foot. In fact, it's almost certain that Germany would collapse outright. Even France would be in trouble. Dunno about Spain or Italy. The UK would have an extremely *interesting* time on it's hands, and the Japanese would be screwed six ways from sunday.

Yeah, all I want to do is eat food made by the British. Greatest cooks EVER.

I'm a Brit who just spent the weekend in Paris. I don't understand why we can't make food more like the French, even snacks like Croque Monsieur and Crepes Complete aren't exactly complicated, just taste delicious probably because they've been made fresh to order and not microwaved from a frozen packet. I'm sure they'd be a huge market for a French cafe in the town where I live.

Sorry I know that's gone a bit off topic from the most recent posts :-)

Still enough to massively deflate the dollar though, I'm sure. Isn't the value of the dollar intricately tied to these things? Can you say hyperinflation?

Wait...deflate....hyperinflation? Which are you claiming?

Yeah, all I want to do is eat food made by the British. Greatest cooks EVER.

I'm a Brit who just spent the weekend in Paris. I don't understand why we can't make food more like the French, even snacks like Croque Monsieur and Crepes Complete aren't exactly complicated, just taste delicious probably because they've been made fresh to order and not microwaved from a frozen packet. I'm sure they'd be a huge market for a French cafe in the town where I live.

Sorry I know that's gone a bit off topic from the most recent posts :-)

Similarly off-topic: There will be no bashing of our culinary abilities! Are you seriously spurning Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pud, Steak and Kidney Pudding, Rhubarb Crumble and the Great British Fry-Up. I won't stand for it.

When we buy America can I have the pretty bits?

Similarly off-topic: There will be no bashing of our culinary abilities! Are you seriously spurning Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pud, Steak and Kidney Pudding, Rhubarb Crumble and the Great British Fry-Up. I won't stand for it.

When we buy America can I have the pretty bits?
I said what I said. I stand by my statement.
And no. The Japanese have already claimed the good parts. They put a marker in my yard this morning...

Wait...deflate....hyperinflation? Which are you claiming?

Value of the dollar deflates...i.e. goes down

Which means it takes more dollars to buy the same amount of stuff

ergo, inflation (or in a really bad situation, hyperinflation)

I know, sometimes economics doesn't make much sense :D

I said what I said I stand by my statement.
And no. The Japanese have already claimed the good parts. They put a marker in my yard this morning...

Curses. Do you think The Japanese will let me come and look as long as I don't make a nuisance of myself?

Value of the dollar deflates...i.e. goes down

Which means it takes more dollars to buy the same amount of stuff

ergo, inflation (or in a really bad situation, hyperinflation)

I know, sometimes economics doesn't make much sense :D

Deflation is the opposite of inflation.

Curses. Do you think The Japanese will let me come and look as long as I don't make a nuisance of myself?
Sure, the Japanese love tourists. Make sure you buy some of their weird electronics and gizmos though. I don't know if there will be much to see though.If science fiction is right, when the Japanese take over the US economically, it becomes a wasteland. I suppose that it might be fun to watch the struggling Americans live in a post-apocalyptic world.

If science fiction is right, when the Japanese take over the US economically, it becomes a wasteland. I suppose that it might be fun to watch the struggling Americans live in a post-apocalyptic world.

Will they be in rags do you reckon? Why does no-one ever dress well post apocalypse?

Will they be in rags do you reckon? Why does no-one ever dress well post apocalypse?
Rags for the worse off. Simple cotton garments for the majority. Maybe a mixture of laziness and depression.

EDIT:By the way, I am sorry for kind of high-jacking the thread. At least it mostly on topic.:D

According to world business news reports, Europeans have made bids to buy up to half of a America.
It's one of the most basic ideas in economics - buying up the competition and closing it down. Thank god for the Free Market.

If Japan buys America it can only lead to good things. Like some really neat cyber-punk stuff. And I can be a Blade-Runner!

It's already been done, and no such cyber-punk stuff has been forthcoming.