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What do people in Middle Eastern Countries think of gay marriage?

What do people in Middle Eastern Countries think of gay marriage?

Let's just say they don't seem to be in favor of it. You know, that whole silly Islam thing!

I think they've got a few hundred years to go till they reach such levels of tolerance and religious freedom, sorry. :(

What do people in Middle Eastern Countries think of gay marriage?

One extremely popular Imam in Egypt Dr Al-Qaradawi supports the execution of homosexuals for the crime of homosexual sex so what do you think?

So how far does the US have to go then? :D

/rimshot

Let's just say they don't seem to be in favor of it. You know, that whole silly Islam thing!

There are people within ANY religion that are intolerant...and those that are more open-minded. It isn't a function of Islam (or Christianity for that matter) to be inherently homophobic. It is a function of the people who are themselves homophobic. And let's not 'just say they don't seem to be in favor of it'. The U.S doesn't seem too 'in favor' of it either, but that doesn't mean that everyone in the U.S is anti-gay marriage. People in the Middle East will both oppose and support gay marriage. How their countries legislate this issue will determine how it is dealt with.

I think they've got a few hundred years to go till they reach such levels of tolerance and religious freedom, sorry. :(

I didn't realise homosexuality was a religion. The religious intolerance I think you are speaking of is not confined to Islam. The Christian Right has it's fair share of it. In the West, it is not as socially acceptable to be an outright homophobe, but I certainly hope you are not insinuating that the West is 'centuries' ahead of the Middle East in terms of tolerance shown to homosexuals. There are still medical practitioners who try to 'retrain' homosexuals to be heterosexual. That doesn't seem too 'tolerant' or 'understanding' to me.

There are people within ANY religion that are intolerant...and those that are more open-minded. It isn't a function of Islam (or Christianity for that matter) to be inherently homophobic. It is a function of the people who are themselves homophobic. And let's not 'just say they don't seem to be in favor of it'. The U.S doesn't seem too 'in favor' of it either, but that doesn't mean that everyone in the U.S is anti-gay marriage. People in the Middle East will both oppose and support gay marriage. How their countries legislate this issue will determine how it is dealt with.

Well I still find it a sin as it goes against the law of God. Now I'm not homophobic (what a silly term), but I do not like what homosexuals do. The US is not in favor of it because we still have some God-fearing folks with some decency and common sense. Thankfully the majority of Americans are against Homosexual marriage. Anywho, anyone who supports the Gay agenda who claims to be either Jewish, Christian, or Muslim are liars. They may support the Gay cause, but they are not in Gods' graces and will be left to face God for their beliefs.

Well I still find it a sin as it goes against the law of God. Now I'm not homophobic (what a silly term), but I do not like what homosexuals do. The US is not in favor of it because we still have some God-fearing folks with some decency and common sense. Thankfully the majority of Americans are against Homosexual marriage. Anywho, anyone who supports the Gay agenda who claims to be either Jewish, Christian, or Muslim are liars. They may support the Gay cause, but they are not in Gods' graces and will be left to face God for their beliefs.

I agree! Nows we just got to ban them coloured folk and git those women back in the kitchen!

Egypt: Legal- but gays can be prosecuted under lewd conduct laws
Iran: Illegal-gays are put to death
Syria: Illegal-3 year incarceration
Saudi Arabia: Illegal-gays are put to death
Israel: Legal and with legal protection for gays from hate crimes and discrimination
Lebanon: Illegal
Palestinian Authority: Legal by law, but in terms of being de facto, illegal

(Curse my slow typing. This is to The True Right)

Oh really?

How's this then?

"As your son preached, I've been kind to others, never killed, stood up for the oppressed, and tried to make this world a better place. I think I made a good account of myself, but you're the final judge o' that."

One extremely popular Imam in Egypt Dr Al-Qaradawi supports the execution of homosexuals for the crime of homosexual sex so what do you think?

A very popular Reverend, Fred Phelps declares that "God hates fags". The U.S politician Trent Lott says "Homosexuality is a sin. You should try to show them a way to deal with that problem, just like alcohol..."

...so what do you think?

I didn't realise homosexuality was a religion. The religious intolerance I think you are speaking of is not confined to Islam. The Christian Right has it's fair share of it. In the West, it is not as socially acceptable to be an outright homophobe, but I certainly hope you are not insinuating that the West is 'centuries' ahead of the Middle East in terms of tolerance shown to homosexuals. There are still medical practitioners who try to 'retrain' homosexuals to be heterosexual. That doesn't seem too 'tolerant' or 'understanding' to me.
I still think the U.S. has some ways to go, and I honestly think we'll be there within 50 years. Every survey done on the 18-29 year old crowd has shown majority support for gay marriage. The greatest opposition comes from the 60+ year old crowd. Quite simply, the future of America doesn't give a shit what gay people do on their own time, whether it's having sex, visiting each other in the hospital, or getting married.

Just think what America was like 50 years ago in regards to black rights, and how far we've come in a relatively short amount of time.

This little outburst of amendments banning gay marriage is the Religious Right kicking before it fades into obscurity.

Anyways, you can't even compare where we're at to the middle east. The middle east can't even get women's rights through their heads, do you think gay rights are coming anytime soon? Damn, if I was gay in the middle east, I sure as hell wouldn't let anyone know.

First comes separation of church and state. Then comes the sexual revolution. Then comes gender and orientation equality. :)

They're nowhere even near the first step.

I agree! Nows we just got to ban them coloured folk and git those women back in the kitchen!


We are all His children. I'm no rascist. I hate the sin, but love the sinner. Thanks for implying that my religious belief makes me a rascist! :)

Well I still find it a sin as it goes against the law of God. Now I'm not homophobic (what a silly term), but I do not like what homosexuals do.

Hehehehe...that's like saying, "Now, I'm not racist (what a silly term)," but I just don't want to live next to no black folk...at least confess that you hate gays. Geez.

(Curse my slow typing. This is to The True Right)

Oh really?

How's this then?

"As your son preached, I've been kind to others, never killed, stood up for the oppressed, and tried to make this world a better place. I think I made a good account of myself, but you're the final judge o' that."

Romans I

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator–who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Hehehehe...that's like saying, "Now, I'm not racist (what a silly term)," but I just don't want to live next to no black folk...at least confess that you hate gays. Geez.

Just because I find their behavior evil, does not make me hate them. Hell I have a homosexual neighbors across the street.

BTW there should be a better term for hatred of gay people themselves. Homophobic could actually mean "Afraid of Man". Now I deal with men everyday of the year, I can't be homophobic as I consider my male friends my brothers, and my male contacts my friends. Let's call it homosexualphobic.

Let's just say they don't seem to be in favor of it. You know, that whole silly Islam thing!

At least you've proved that intolerance, justified with religion, is not confined to Islam.

We are all His children. I'm no rascist.

You apparently missed my subtle allusion that the arguments made against gays were pretty the same variety as the ones used against black civil rights and women's suffrage, as well as in support of slavery.

I hate the sin, but love the sinner.

You're not a bigot, just a condescending asshole?

Thanks for implying that my religious belief makes me a rascist! :)

Admit it. You know you want my cock.

At least you've proved that intolerance, justified with religion, is not confined to Islam.

What is intolerant about anything I just typed? You people who are so tolerant of everyone probably aren't so tolerant of others. Like rapists. Oh they are troubled individuals, we must have tolerance for their life choices. :)

Just because I find their behavior evil, does not make me hate them. Hell I have a homosexual neighbors across the street.

BTW there should be a better term for hatred of gay people themselves. Homophobic could actually mean "Afraid of Man". Now I deal with men everyday of the year, I can't be homophobic as I consider my male friends my brothers, and my male contacts my friends. Let's call it homosexualphobic.

Hey, I don't hate them there darkies..I have a darky neighbour! Please. Just because you have a gay neighbour doesn't mean you aren't homophobic. I'll help you out with your definition here:

Main Entry: ho•mo•pho•bia
Pronunciation: "hO-m&-'fO-bE-&
Function: noun
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
- ho•mo•pho•bic /-'fO-bik/ adjective

It has nothing to do with being 'afraid of man'. So you want to be called 'homosexualphobic' instead? Why not just use the term that has already been coined for people like you, 'homophobic'. I don't think the word needs to be reinvented to be kinder and gentler to you.

At least you've proved that intolerance, justified with religion, is not confined to Islam.
It could even span to athesim too!

What is intolerant about anything I just typed? You people who are so tolerant of everyone probably aren't so tolerant of others. Like rapists. Oh they are troubled individuals, we must have tolerance for their life choices. :)
Rapists hurt people.

Gay people don't.

Nice try.

Or are you one of those half-time homophobes who hates gay men, but think that gay women are pretty cool...if only they'd include you...

You apparently missed my subtle allusion that the arguments made against gays were pretty the same variety as the ones used against black civil rights and women's suffrage, as well as in support of slavery.



You're not a bigot, just a condescending asshole?



Admit it. You know you want my cock.

No I did not miss your "allusion". Yes I am condescending. But you my friend are just an abused asshole.

Cock, well what breed is it. I knew a new one for the hens in my coop anyway so bring him over. My rooster is old and lost his zest for life, much like my horsey who has something wrong with his lung.

Oh please :P

I have tolerance for any choice a person makes that does not affect another individual in a direct way.

I don't care if someone smokes or takes drugs. I do care if they smoke and blow it in my face, or take drugs, then start driving.

And as for above, wasn't Romans a book of letters from Paul to Rome? Y'know, written by man, hence fallible and with its own prejudices?

;)

Hey, I don't hate them there darkies..I have a darky neighbour! Please. Just because you have a gay neighbour doesn't mean you aren't homophobic. I'll help you out with your definition here:



It has nothing to do with being 'afraid of man'. So you want to be called 'homosexualphobic' instead? Why not just use the term that has already been coined for people like you, 'homophobic'. I don't think the word needs to be reinvented to be kinder and gentler to you.

My friend my Church has a bible study to help you with your demons. Now just try not to have homosexual relations, and you can attain the kingdom of heaven. I want to see you in heaven my friend. We will help you out in all of your other sins. Please, the choice is yours my friend, do not chance the love of God on your carnal lusts.

Oh please :P

I have tolerance for any choice a person makes that does not affect another individual in a direct way.

I don't care if someone smokes or takes drugs. I do care if they smoke and blow it in my face, or take drugs, then start driving.

And as for above, wasn't Romans a book of letters from Paul to Rome? Y'know, written by man, hence fallible and with its own prejudices?

;)

Yes it was written by man, but it was from the words of Jesus who is God in human flesh.

I also believe homosexual acts to be sinful. But I don't want to kill gays. I think theft is sinful. But I don't go around the streets with a flamethrower looking for thieves! I disapprove of what they do - but I would not harm them for it, as that would be going against my religion.

Just because I don't approve of homosexual acts doesn't mean that I hate gays. And "God hates fags," well, I thought that God loved everyone?

No I did not miss your "allusion".

Sure did a good job of pretending!


Yes I am condescending.


... but it's okay because it's for JESUS! Right?


But you my friend are just an abused asshole.


Abused? In what way?


My rooster is old and lost his zest for life, much like my horsey who has something wrong with his lung.

No need to worry about that, you'll be the one receiving.


Yes it was written by man, but it was from the words of Jesus who is God in human flesh.

Ad Hoc hypothesis ahoy!

Country Gay male Lesbian Max penalty
Algeria Illegal Illegal 3 years
Morocco Illegal Illegal 3 years
Somalia Illegal Illegal 3 years
Sudan Illegal Illegal Death
Afghanistan Illegal Illegal Unknown
Pakistan Illegal Illegal Death
Bahrain Illegal Illegal 10 years
Egypt Illegal Illegal Varied
Iran Illegal Illegal Death
Israel Legal Legal
Iraq Legal Legal
Jordan Legal Legal
Kuwait Illegal Illegal 7 years
Lebanon Illegal Illegal 1 year
Oman Illegal Illegal 3 years
Palestine Illegal Illegal 10 years
Qatar Illegal Illegal 5 years
Saudi Arabia Illegal Illegal Death
Syria Illegal Illegal 1 year
United Arab Emirates Illegal Illegal Death
Yemen Illegal Illegal Death

My friend my Church has a bible study to help you with your demons. Now just try not to have homosexual relations, and you can attain the kingdom of heaven. I want to see you in heaven my friend. We will help you out in all of your other sins. Please, the choice is yours my friend, do not chance the love of God on your carnal lusts.
Can I still masturbate?

Cause that's kind of homosexual if you think about it. :(

Can I get fries with that?

And they say americans are homophobic...

How are French Fries representative of American homophobia?

Rapists hurt people.

Gay people don't.

Nice try.

Still, rapists have chosen that life choice. Who are we to judge?

How about NAMBLA members? We must be tolerant of everyones life choices.


Gay people have never hurt anyone? Ok sure!

NAMBLA members have the right to feel horny. They don't have the right to fuck a child.

Can I still masturbate?

Cause that's kind of homosexual if you think about it. :(

Well masturbation is giving into your carnal lusts. So yeah it's a sin just like homosexuality. All sins are equal under His laws.

BTW I don't know, can you? I'm sure you remember how to do that.

Still, rapists have chosen that life choice. Who are we to judge?

How about NAMBLA members? We must be tolerant of everyones life choices.


Gay people have never hurt anyone? Ok sure!
Fuck NAMBLA. Kids can't legally give consent, and that's a different subject.

Back to the topic, rapists hurt people, two lesbians having sex are not hurting anyone.

Surely you see the difference, or are you purposefully being obtuse? :)

And I can lust after fries...

NAMBLA members have the right to feel horny. They don't have the right to fuck a child.

They feel horny yes, but it is their life choice and we need to be tolerant of their sinful ways.

Well masturbation is giving into your carnal lusts. So yeah it's a sin just like homosexuality. All sins are equal under His laws.
All sins equal? So murder is equal to masturbation?

Then again, you are "killing" your future children, lol.

BTW I don't know, can you? I'm sure you remember how to do that.
I'm doing it as we speak.

*fap fap fap*

Before this discussion degenerates completely, here are some interesting facts:

DIVIDED STATES: Sodomy is still illegal in 20 US states. In six of these – Arkansas, Kansas, Maryland, Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma – the law applies only to homosexual acts. In 12 other US states, however, there are progressive anti-discrimination laws.

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT: Iran, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are known to have executed homosexuals for their sexuality during the past decade.

At least they aren't being executed in the West. However, the world as a whole has a way to go before we can call ourselves 'tolerant'.

They feel horny yes, but it is their life choice and we need to be tolerant of their sinful ways.

Tolerant doesnt mean you have to like it. You just don't have to go and fling vicious insults at them... and I doubt someone would choose to be attracted to children... I mean, flat chest vs. boobs... what would you choose, logically...

It could even span to athesim too!
Yeah...atheists usually don't back up their intolerance with religion though:)

Fuck NAMBLA. Kids can't legally give consent, and that's a different subject.

Back to the topic, rapists hurt people, two lesbians having sex are not hurting anyone.

Surely you see the difference, or are you purposefully being obtuse? :)

I do not see the difference in terms of sin. All sins are equal unto Him. Obtuse or not it is the same under God.

Sure, rape is a violent crime as compared to lesbian sex. But what if two gay men have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a straight male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this gay male just signed this straight man's death warrent.

Texas got their sodomy laws struck down by the Supreme Court last year, in a 6-3 ruling (the usual dissenters: Scalia, Rehnquist, and Thomas).

Will that apply to other states? Need to check.

Anyhow, it's funny that a guy can legally take a girl up the ass, but cannot give another guy a blowjob. Where's the logic in that?

But what if two gay men have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a straight male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this gay male just signed this straight man's death warrent.
Oh for fucksake.

You are aware AIDS is not a "gay disease", right?

Texas got their sodomy laws struck down by the Supreme Court last year, in a 6-3 ruling (the usual dissenters: Scalia, Rehnquist, and Thomas).

Will that apply to other states? Need to check.

Anyhow, it's funny that a guy can legally take a girl up the ass, but cannot give another guy a blowjob. Where's the logic in that?

One is icky, one is sticky. You be the judge.

My friend my Church has a bible study to help you with your demons. Now just try not to have homosexual relations, and you can attain the kingdom of heaven. I want to see you in heaven my friend. We will help you out in all of your other sins. Please, the choice is yours my friend, do not chance the love of God on your carnal lusts.

Now you assume I'm homosexual because I defend homosexual rights? Newsflash...there are plenty of heterosexuals who are not intolerant bigots. As for attaining heave, you assume I care. I don't. I'm an atheist. Even if I WERE religious, I consider your bigotry to be a much bigger sin than any consensual sexual act. Does one attain heaven ONLY by curbing their 'carnal lusts'? Aren't you supposed to live rightly in all aspects of your life?

Hate to break it to you, but a virus can't tell whether you're gay or not.
AIDS has killed more heterosexuals than homosexuals. Are we going to blame heterosexuals for the AIDS epidemic?

What a load of horse crap.

I do not see the difference in terms of sin. All sins are equal unto Him. Obtuse or not it is the same under God.

Sure, rape is a violent crime as compared to lesbian sex. But what if two gay men have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a straight male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this gay male just signed this straight man's death warrent.

Or...

But what if a guy and a woman have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with another straight male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this straight male just signed this straight man's death warrant.

Just as possible.

Before you say it, HIV is not a homosexual disease, nor does it show preference towards them. It is an evolved disease that somehow entered the human pathological catalogue, and infects all but the immune just as readily.

The Aids!!!!! Hahahahaha!!!!!!! :D

Now just try not to have homosexual relations, and you can attain the kingdom of heaven. ... do not chance the love of God on your carnal lusts.

But carnal lust is just so much fun! :Op

Now you assume I'm homosexual because I defend homosexual rights? Newsflash...there are plenty of heterosexuals who are not intolerant bigots. As for attaining heave, you assume I care. I don't. I'm an atheist. Even if I WERE religious, I consider your bigotry to be a much bigger sin than any consensual sexual act. Does one attain heaven ONLY by curbing their 'carnal lusts'? Aren't you supposed to live rightly in all aspects of your life?

Yup I'm such a HUGE intolerant bigot! :rolleyes: Newsflash, I find the homosexual act a sin. That is my opinion based on the word of God. Now you do not know me, yet you judge me a bigot. Who is the intolerant one now. It is my life choice to worship the True Word of God. You need to be tolerant of that. Actually friend, you are guilty of sin, just as I am, if you are gay it matters not. You need to find Him. Now I think you will care when the Truth is finally revealed to you upon the return of His Son. I can't force you to see the light and I'm not trying to make you. I just hope you're heart will one day find Him.

BTW follow his laws and you should be ok, just remember to love all.

They feel horny yes, but it is their life choice and we need to be tolerant of their sinful ways.
as long as they dont act upon them, sure.

And I can lust after fries...

Although that's quite a rare and weird fetish...

But as long as neither you nor the fries are abused, I'm cool with what you do behind closed doors :-P

...

Can fries give consent?

I'm doing it as we speak.

*fap fap fap*

*rolls eyes* talk about intellectual masturbation.

Oh for fucksake.

You are aware AIDS is not a "gay disease", right?

Well tell you this. If you refrain from promiscuos gay, anal sex you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not receive tainted blood, you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not us IV drugs you will not catch AIDs.

AIDs is one disease in the gay community so it is a gay disease in the sense that if you have it and are gay, it is a gay disease.

Yup I'm such a HUGE intolerant bigot! :rolleyes: Newsflash, I find the homosexual act a sin. That is my opinion based on the word of God. Now you do not know me, yet you judge me a bigot. Who is the intolerant one now. It is my life choice to worship the True Word of God. You need to be tolerant of that. Actually friend, you are guilty of sin, just as I am, if you are gay it matters not. You need to find Him. Now I think you will care when the Truth is finally revealed to you upon the return of His Son. I can't force you to see the light and I'm not trying to make you. I just hope you're heart will one day find Him.

Take note, bigotry can also mean acting holier-than-thou. Ya know, saying how everyone's sinned, needs to find the light (which happens to be the one you're following) and so on...

Although that's quite a rare and weird fetish...
But as long as neither you nor the fries are abused, I'm cool with what you do behind closed doors :-P
...
Can fries give consent?

I'm sure he makes his own special brand of poutine.

Well tell you this. If you refrain from promiscuos gay, anal sex you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not receive tainted blood, you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not us IV drugs you will not catch AIDs.

AIDs is one disease in the gay community so it is a gay disease in the sense that if you have it and are gay, it is a gay disease.

Ack! Misinformation!

*beats with stick*

HIV, which is what is spread, is caused by the mixing of bodily fluids such as blood and semen.

You can catch HIV simply by having straight up vaginal sex with an infected woman.

Well tell you this. If you refrain from promiscuos gay, anal sex you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not receive tainted blood, you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not us IV drugs you will not catch AIDs.

AIDs is one disease in the gay community so it is a gay disease in the sense that if you have it and are gay, it is a gay disease.

Then explain how millions of heterosexuals who never had gay sex in their lives, never received blood products, and never used IV drugs have perished from AIDS.

Ah, I see. It's because they had heterosexual sex. Not anal sex. Not sex with blood. Not sex with gay men. Heterosexual sex. In the missionary position, no less.

Well tell you this. If you refrain from promiscuos gay, anal sex you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not receive tainted blood, you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not us IV drugs you will not catch AIDs.

AIDs is one disease in the gay community so it is a gay disease in the sense that if you have it and are gay, it is a gay disease.
and if you have it and are staright, its a straight disease. since this is much more likely to happen, why not call it a straight disease?

But what if two gay men have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a straight male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this gay male just signed this straight man's death warrent.

But what if two straight persons have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a gay male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this straight male just signed this gay man's death warrent.

Would this be more acceptable because it's a straight man giving AIDS to a gay male? Why, of course it would, the gay man was going straight in hell anyway...

/sarcasm

Take note, bigotry can also mean acting holier-than-thou. Ya know, saying how everyone's sinned, needs to find the light (which happens to be the one you're following) and so on...


Never said I was holier then thou. I am a sinner who does not deserve His mercy. I just hope to show whoever will heed my words the Truth.

I'm sure he makes his own special brand of poutine.

Do you live in the province of Québec? I thought poutine was a national specialty... Or has our greasy delicacy made it's way out of our borders?

Well tell you this. If you refrain from promiscuos gay, anal sex you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not receive tainted blood, you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not us IV drugs you will not catch AIDs.


If you have anal sex with a woman as YAHWEH intended then you'll be a-okay.


AIDs is one disease in the gay community so it is a gay disease in the sense that if you have it and are gay, it is a gay disease.

Cut the bullshit. We all know what you meant and how you meant it. You got called on it, just admit you were mistaken and leave it at that.

Then explain how millions of heterosexuals who never had gay sex in their lives, never received blood products, and never used IV drugs have perished from AIDS.

Ah, I see. It's because they had heterosexual sex. Not anal sex. Not sex with blood. Not sex with gay men. Heterosexual sex. In the missionary position, no less.

Well if you do not have promiscuous straight sex, you will not catch the AIDs. Remain true to your wife or husband, you will not catch the AIDs.

Never said I was holier then thou. I am a sinner who does not deserve His mercy. I just hope to show whoever will heed my words the Truth.

There, right there.

"I am right, I speak the truth, harken onto me, I speak God's word!"

Well if you do not have promiscuous straight sex, you will not catch the AIDs. Remain true to your wife or husband, you will not catch the AIDs.

And if the person you married was promiscuous and did not tell you, and has HIV? You lose.

Well I still find it a sin as it goes against the law of God. Now I'm not homophobic (what a silly term), but I do not like what homosexuals do. The US is not in favor of it because we still have some God-fearing folks with some decency and common sense. Thankfully the majority of Americans are against Homosexual marriage. Anywho, anyone who supports the Gay agenda who claims to be either Jewish, Christian, or Muslim are liars. They may support the Gay cause, but they are not in Gods' graces and will be left to face God for their beliefs.

Homophobia is a very real thing, not a silly term. And from your post, you sound to me like a homophobe hiding behind religion. It's not your god's morals you push on others but your own. Assume there is a god. Who are we, as people, to assume whom he does or does not keep in his graces? Because the Bible tells us? The Bible, copied by hand and word of mouth for two thousand years, a book whose signifigant inconsistencies number in the hundreds? Four men who spent their adult lives together with Jesus Christ cannot even report his last day in a consistent manner. I am not foolish enough to trust my life to a tome that has been subject to two millenia of human error. Face your own god with your own beliefs, and leave others out of it.

But what if two straight persons have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a gay male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this straight male just signed this gay man's death warrent.

Would this be more acceptable because it's a straight man giving AIDS to a gay male? Why, of course it would, the gay man was going straight in hell anyway...

/sarcasm

You do not go straight to hell or heaven immediately when you die. You wait for the judgement day like all others. No where in the bible can you find mention of going to heaven or hell immediately after death. Now, murder is still murder so it would not matter who was straight or gay.

Ah, but you initially said promiscuous gay sex. Now you're changing the conditions. Which is it?

I think it's a heterosexual disease, as far more heterosexuals have transmitted it and died from it.

Well tell you this. If you refrain from promiscuos gay, anal sex you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not receive tainted blood, you will not catch the AIDs. If you do not us IV drugs you will not catch AIDs.

AIDs is one disease in the gay community so it is a gay disease in the sense that if you have it and are gay, it is a gay disease. So if you are straight, and you have it, it is a straight disease? Please.


You are seriously ignorant in regards to this disease. Let me educate you:

Drowning by numbers
Twenty-two million people have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the disease was first discovered just over 20 years ago. Three million people died last year alone.
Thirty-six million people are now infected: 25 million in sub-Saharan Africa. In Botswana, 36% of adults have the HIV virus, in South Africa 20%.1

So...are all those people gay? Or did they get "the AIDS" from contact with gays?
I hate to break it to you...AIDs is spread mainly by sexual contact among heterosexuals. Straight sex. Straight, normal sex. It's not a gay disease, but you go ahead and believe you're safe because you're hetero. It's like believing a girl won't get pregnant if she jumps up and down after intercourse.

Well if you do not have promiscuous straight sex, you will not catch the AIDs. Remain true to your wife or husband, you will not catch the AIDs.
Wrong. Perhaps your wife or husband does not remain faithful? You could catch AIDS, having done nothing wrong yourself.

You're so misinformed its not funny.

Do you live in the province of Québec? I thought poutine was a national specialty... Or has our greasy delicacy made it's way out of our borders?

Ontario here. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it's slid its way to the United States seeing as just about every fast food joint here has it.

If you have anal sex with a woman as YAHWEH intended then you'll be a-okay.



Cut the bullshit. We all know what you meant and how you meant it. You got called on it, just admit you were mistaken and leave it at that.

"We all know" ok whatever. Seriously if you are gay with AIDs it is a gay disease.

If you have anal sex with a woman it is a sin.

Please stop with "the AIDS"! like it's something you go shopping for, "Hey hon, I'm just going to go to the corner to get the AIDs"!

:headbang:

Is the true right joking, or is he really that thick?

Yup I'm such a HUGE intolerant bigot! Newsflash, I find the homosexual act a sin. That is my opinion based on the word of God.

So you let a 2000 year-old book tell you what to think instead to make up your own opinions according to the 21st century's reality...

Why not take religion for its message (love, etc.) only ?

Ontario here. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it's slid its way to the United States seeing as just about every fast food joint here has it.


Poutine is nothing special. If Canadians are so proud of this "national dish" they are truely sorry people. First you reject God, now this.

What is intolerant about anything I just typed? You people who are so tolerant of everyone probably aren't so tolerant of others. Like rapists. Oh they are troubled individuals, we must have tolerance for their life choices. :)

Rapists force their "life choice" on unwilling participants.
Homosexuals don't go about forcing others to be gay. Can't say the same for bigots and homophobes.

Well if you do not have promiscuous straight sex, you will not catch the AIDs. Remain true to your wife or husband, you will not catch the AIDs.

Please: Stop. Breathing.

I'm going to make up my own religion in which it's absolutely fine to have bum sex with men and woman, and masturbate, etc. Then I'll write a holy book about it, and I'll have just as much authority to go round calling others "sinners" as the True Right, right?

If you have anal sex with a woman it is a sin.
Are blowjobs okay? Handjobs? Fingering? Condoms?

How much did God explicitly say are sins?

Ack! Misinformation!

*beats with stick*

HIV, which is what is spread, is caused by the mixing of bodily fluids such as blood and semen.

You can catch HIV simply by having straight up vaginal sex with an infected woman.

The chances of straight vaginal transmission are significantly lower then gay, ass sex.

The chances of straight vaginal transmission are significantly lower then gay, ass sex.


You're lying again. Please stop.

Homophobia is a very real thing, not a silly term. And from your post, you sound to me like a homophobe hiding behind religion. It's not your god's morals you push on others but your own. Assume there is a god. Who are we, as people, to assume whom he does or does not keep in his graces? Because the Bible tells us? The Bible, copied by hand and word of mouth for two thousand years, a book whose signifigant inconsistencies number in the hundreds? Four men who spent their adult lives together with Jesus Christ cannot even report his last day in a consistent manner. I am not foolish enough to trust my life to a tome that has been subject to two millenia of human error. Face your own god with your own beliefs, and leave others out of it.

the Bible was written between the years of 65 and 100... those who wrote it did not even know Jesus......... historical facts here.

Poutine is nothing special. If Canadians are so proud of this "national dish" they are truely sorry people. First you reject God, now this.
Now you're anti-Canadian? Where does you bigotry end? :eek:

Is the true right joking, or is he really that thick?
Hes a parody

Please: Stop. Breathing.
I second the motion to get the true right to stop breathing, and would like to add antonin scalia to that list

Well if you do not have promiscuous straight sex, you will not catch the AIDs. Remain true to your wife or husband, you will not catch the AIDs.

Asbtinence? No sex before marriage?

...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*wheeze*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


*takes his breath*

Seriously, religions have been trying to force this on billions of people for the last several thousand years... Guess what?It never worked, and it never will.
Teaching kids and young adults not to put their heads in the sand and use protection if they're going to have sex gives off much more results than trying to force down their throat that concept of abstinence before marriage.

It's been happening forever, and it's not gonna stop anytime soon. The best we can do is deal with it and try to show those around us that sex isn't just about lust and viewing someone else as an object, but also about respect and love. Do that, and even though they may not wait before marriage to have sex, at least they won't be having sex empty of meaning with anyone they find attractive.

The same goes for gay sex: make gays realise there's more to it than a cult of the young and sculptural body, and then you'll get more loving and stable relationships.

The chances of straight vaginal transmission are significantly lower then gay, ass sex.
Now it's time to start backing up your ridiculous claims with facts. You know..those little things that prove what you say is true? Oh...and could you find out about straight ass sex? Is that safer than gay ass sex?

The chances of straight vaginal transmission are significantly lower then gay, ass sex.

Backtracking, are we?
Stop being intellectually dishonest and just admit you were wrong.

There, right there.

"I am right, I speak the truth, harken onto me, I speak God's word!"



And if the person you married was promiscuous and did not tell you, and has HIV? You lose.

Now I'm a bigot for spreading the word of God? What sorry times we live in.

If the person was honest and loyal they wouldn't have caught the AIDs in the first place.

Hes a parody
Shoulda known better.

Been wasting my time on a joke. :(

Now I'm a bigot for spreading the word of God? What sorry times we live in.

If the person was honest and loyal they wouldn't have caught the AIDs in the first place.
what if they werent honest and loyal?

Poutine is nothing special. If Canadians are so proud of this "national dish" they are truely sorry people. First you reject God, now this.

Okay, I wasn't quite sure before, but now I know: you're a troll.

I mean, insulting poutine in front of a Québécois clearly IS flamebaiting :-D

Surely nobody can ever expect abstinence to work. You're fighting against one of the strongest animal instincts ever. But of course, we never evolved from animals, we were sculpted out of clay, or something wierd like that. I also saw a male dog bumming another male dog the other day, The dirty sinners, they're going straight to hell.

I'm going to make up my own religion in which it's absolutely fine to have bum sex with men and woman, and masturbate, etc. Then I'll write a holy book about it, and I'll have just as much authority to go round calling others "sinners" as the True Right, right?

Where do we sign up to join, oh Holy guru of love? ;)

Now I'm a bigot for spreading the word of God? What sorry times we live in.


You're a bigot for trying to use your religion to oppress people. Stop trying to play the victim, no one buys it.


If the person was honest and loyal they wouldn't have caught the AIDs in the first place.

Or maybe if they stuck to litte boys. http://members.rogers.com/dariuszalina/emot-q.gif

So you let a 2000 year-old book tell you what to think instead to make up your own opinions according to the 21st century's reality...

Why not take religion for its message (love, etc.) only ?

Well there is more to it then just love! It is about obedience to the LORD. What is really different between now and the time of John the Baptist? We are humans, and His laws still mean the same things. Sure man's laws have changed, and man has changed God's law into more tolerant forms in these so called Christian churches of today. But that doesn't make things right.

What was good for Jesus is good enough for me.

In any case, troll or not, serious or not, we shouldn't be letting one person divert the topic. The topic was specifically about gay marriage and how people in the Middle East feel about it. There have been some good posts giving information about legislation regarding gay relationships in general, but nothing about gay marriage specifically. I'm assuming it is not legal in the Middle East? Is any one here FROM the Middle East that could give us a good perspective on the topic?

Please: Stop. Breathing.


Eventually. As we were born knowing only life, we will all learn death. Now some may find eternal death, I want to stand in front of Him and give a decent account of this worthless human life.

You're a bigot for trying to use your religion to oppress people. Stop trying to play the victim, no one buys it.



Or maybe if they stuck to litte boys. http://members.rogers.com/dariuszalina/emot-q.gif

ownage approved

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/darkmad158/aBSOLUTLIMBAUGH.jpg

Okay, I wasn't quite sure before, but now I know: you're a troll.

I mean, insulting poutine in front of a Québécois clearly IS flamebaiting :-D

And in front of two Québécois... ;)

the Bible was written between the years of 65 and 100... those who wrote it did not even know Jesus......... historical facts here.

I was referring to the men who wrote the Gospel: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. And whether they wrote it, or reported it, those books are still attributed to them and anyway, its still inconsistent, that is my point.

Or maybe if they stuck to litte boys.

That one's gotta hurt. Right up yo a*s, True Right, eh?(no pun intended :p)

I'd like to hear what you thought about my reply to your claim that abstinence could work, though.

I'm going to make up my own religion in which it's absolutely fine to have bum sex with men and woman, and masturbate, etc. Then I'll write a holy book about it, and I'll have just as much authority to go round calling others "sinners" as the True Right, right?


I don't have the authority to call anyone sinners. We are all sinners. Would you be offend if I called my Black neighbor a Black? Enjoy your devious lifestyle all you want. It is my right to call them as I see them in this great nation.

Eventually.

Sooner rather than later. By "sooner" I mean right now and by "later" I mean within the hour.

Now some may find eternal death, I want to stand in front of Him and give a decent account of this worthless human life.

There you have it, he admits he's worthless. Die plz, we could use the natural resources.

You're lying again. Please stop.

No I am not lying. Prove me a liar.

No I am not lying. Prove me a liar.

The burden of proof is on you, boy. Now backup your claims.

I second the motion to get the true right to stop breathing, and would like to add antonin scalia to that list


If my answers scare you, do not ask scary questions!

If my answers scare you, do not ask scary questions!
the truth never scares me, as a rule, only the lies of the right do...and Antonin Scalia, even if he said the truth, he still looks scary

Eventually. As we were born knowing only life, we will all learn death. Now some may find eternal death, I want to stand in front of Him and give a decent account of this worthless human life.

Well, if you use to oppress others, I certainly would call it worthless.

As for anal sex being a higher transmission risk (and it is, I checked online, multiple sources, but sexuality SURPRISE SURPRISE doesn't enter into it) than vaginal sex, so what?

You shoot a wasps' nest, they come after you.
You whack it with a stick, maybe not, whack it enough, oh they will...

HIV is a disease that no-one gender or sexuality can take the blame for, it is a disease that as I've said infects all but the immune, and it can be transmitted in any form of sex, as well as poor practises in medicine and drug use.

*stops beating the topic*

There. Well and truly done, I'll say no more on it.

I do not see the difference in terms of sin. All sins are equal unto Him. Obtuse or not it is the same under God.

Sure, rape is a violent crime as compared to lesbian sex. But what if two gay men have consensual sex, one gives the other the AIDs. The newly infected male gets in a bloody fight with a straight male and their bloody bodies come into contact and the AIDs was transmitted. Now this gay male just signed this straight man's death warrent.

At least around here, the highest rise in HIV cases is amongst heterosexual women.

A better argument for compulsory lesbianism I have never seen!

You're a bigot for trying to use your religion to oppress people. Stop trying to play the victim, no one buys it.



Or maybe if they stuck to litte boys. http://members.rogers.com/dariuszalina/emot-q.gif

Ok, now I'm puzzled. When did I try to oppress anyone? I only said that I believe it is against Gods laws. If you feel oppressed by that, then you can have my hanky.

Shoot, those peasents out back need another whipping.

And in front of two Québécois... ;)

It's good to live in Québec, the only Canadian province where surveys says gay marriage is supported by MORE THAN 60% OF THE POPULATION (we're not talking about poeple who answers that they don't care, but people who answer 'Yeah, we're all for it')

As far as middle-east goes, I'm positive no country with an Islamic government is anywhere near legalizing gay marriage.

Non-religious governments, on the other hand, usually show much more promise on that subject. Unless I'm mistaken, even though gay marriage isn't legal in Israel, I believe they have civil unions for same-sex partners.

Iraq could very well be next in line, as it was one of the very few non-islamic governments in that area of the globe. It remains to be seen if the religious right in the american administration is influential enough over there to reinstate death penalty to gays... I wouldn't be surprised to hear they're trying to at least re-criminalize it.

And in front of two Québécois... ;)


They have problems bathing, what should I worry about.

A better argument for compulsory lesbianism I have never seen!

Somebody really ought to draw up an issue about compulsory lesbianism to be submitted to all nations of NS :-D

They have problems bathing, what should I worry about.
what a surprise, Antonin scalia jr hates Canada

Ok, who placed bats for that one?

The burden of proof is on you, boy. Now backup your claims.


You called me a liar, boy (or faulknerian idiot man-child). The burden of proof is with you. I am innocent till proven guilty.

Ok, now I'm puzzled. When did I try to oppress anyone? I only said that I believe it is against Gods laws. If you feel oppressed by that, then you can have my hanky.


Trying to act innocent now? Please.
Why don't we look back at your last few posts where you were slandering homosexuality by spreading lies about HIV/AIDS.


Shoot, those peasents out back need another whipping.

I look forward to making you lick my boots when techno-feudalism comes around.

Trying to act innocent now? Please.
Why don't we look back at your last few posts where you were slandering homosexuality by spreading lies about HIV/AIDS.



I look forward to making you lick my boots when techno-feudalism comes around.
youll be too busy licking my....boots

You shall all bow to me!!

You called me a liar, boy (or faulknerian idiot man-child). The burden of proof is with you. I am innocent till proven guilty.

This isn't the court of law, numbnuts. It's a debate. I've no reason to believe your assertions unless you substantiate them. It's called logic, look it up.

That one's gotta hurt. Right up yo a*s, True Right, eh?(no pun intended :p)

I'd like to hear what you thought about my reply to your claim that abstinence could work, though.

Wow an ass comment directed at me. What a clever retort.

Abstinence is the only thing 100% guranteed. If you abstain, you are not going to catch AIDS from sex.

Ok, now I'm puzzled. When did I try to oppress anyone? I only said that I believe it is against Gods laws. If you feel oppressed by that, then you can have my hanky.



Read (http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=oppress&matchtype=exact) and (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=oppress+definition/v=2/SID=e/TID=OOP5_5/l=WS1/R=4/H=0/IPC=eu/SHE=0/SIG=1124lo63s/*-http%3A//dict.die.net/oppressed) learn (http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/oppress).


Abstinence is the only thing 100% guranteed. If you abstain, you are not going to catch AIDS from sex.

Well, I guess everyone had better stop having sex then. God wouldn't mind humanity no longer existing, either...

youll be too busy licking my....boots
You shall all bow to me!!

Fool, my tongue secretes acid!

Abstinence is the only thing 100% guranteed. If you abstain, you are not going to catch AIDS from sex.
Condoms help.

But they're sinful, right? Cause they waste your seed, or something to that effect.

Some important definitions:

Main Entry: tol•er•ance
Pronunciation: 'tä-l&-r&n(t)s, 'täl-r&n(t)s
Function: noun
2 a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own b : the act of allowing something

Saying, "I am tolerant", and then going on to decry others for their lifestyle is not tolerence, it's bigotry.

Main Entry: big•ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

It's okay to be disgusted by somethings. It is not okay to voice your disgust in a manner mean to demean another. Hiding behind religion, and using "God's words" to do that demeaning isn't tolerant. It's hateful. If you are truely tolerant, you will ACCEPT what you tolerate. Otherwise, you put your own opinions above every one else, proclaiming them to be somehow more valid than any one else's.

Even if True Right is playing the Devil's Advocate, which I doubt, many people out there share these views. They are not tolerant views, they are deeply prejudiced.

Fool, my tongue secretes acid!
ive done wrose, I can handle it
( in her best texan accent): Bring it on!

They have problems bathing, what should I worry about.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say about us. Is this an insult, meant to say that we don't bathe? If that's the case, I'm afraid you're mistaken: that's just a common prejudice usually directed against the French(which we're not, we're Canadians) and is quite a load of bullshit, might I add. I should know, I have a friend from France.

Now please stop spouting hatred and nonsense about gays, lesbians, Canadians, Québécois and French, please. Oh, and learn how to write your sentences properly: it's quite humiliating for you that my grammar is more proper than yours, given that English is a second language for me.

Trying to act innocent now? Please.
Why don't we look back at your last few posts where you were slandering homosexuality by spreading lies about HIV/AIDS.



I look forward to making you lick my boots when techno-feudalism comes around.

Fairys wear boots, and ya gotta believe

ive done wrose, I can handle it
( in her best texan accent): Bring it on!

Did I mention my teeth are diamond-coated?

This isn't the court of law, numbnuts. It's a debate. I've no reason to believe your assertions unless you substantiate them. It's called logic, look it up.


Where have I lied? I've posted a whole bevy of times. Point it out to me.

Fairys wear boots, and ya gotta believe

beleive me, boots are the second thing Ill have anyone licking...no, wait, 4th

You called me a liar, boy (or faulknerian idiot man-child). The burden of proof is with you. I am innocent till proven guilty.

I was waiting for you to say that.

You are not charged with a crime. You are involved in a debate. YOU are responsible for providing evidence to back up your claims, or you are mouthing opinions, not facts. Opinions can not be debated because they are purely subjective. Facts can be debated in terms of their validity, but only to a certain extent (ie, bias). Therefore, it falls on you to engage in a debate using facts. Keep your opinions for your friends.

Did I mention my teeth are diamond-coated?
mm...I think Ill have you do the boots then...or Ill just take your teeth and wear them

Fairys

Learn how to pluralise words, cretin.

wear boots, and ya gotta believe

My personal choice not to be gullible, "hopefully you'll someday see the light."
I can wear heels if you're into that sort of thing.

Abstinence is the only thing 100% guranteed.

...

Abstinence is the only thing 100% guaranteed to fail. Abstinence is a theoritical concept that sounds nice on paper, but cannot be properly applied. Kind of like communism :-P

Read my previous post, please: abstinence is inferior to sexual education: if it weren't, there would be FEWER teenage pregnancies in the USA than in Canada, not the other way around. And fewer HIVs, among them AIDS. And fewer abortions. And perhaps fewer cases of non-consensual sex.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say about us. Is this an insult, meant to say that we don't bathe? If that's the case, I'm afraid you're mistaken: that's just a common prejudice usually directed against the French(which we're not, we're Canadians) and is quite a load of bullshit, might I add. I should know, I have a friend from France.

Now please stop spouting hatred and nonsense about gays, lesbians, Canadians, Québécois and French, please. Oh, and learn how to write your sentences properly: it's quite humiliating for you that my grammar is more proper than yours, given that English is a second language for me.


You french Canadians should all learn English!

BTW quiz kid. When you are hammering out replies, you really don't have time to always be accurate. Try doing that frenchie french. The insult comic dog had you guys right.

mm...I think Ill have you do the boots then...or Ill just take your teeth and wear them

Unless my heat vision gets you first!

You french Canadians should all learn English!

BTW quiz kid. When you are hammering out replies, you really don't have time to always be accurate. Try doing that frenchie french. The insult comic dog had you guys right.

Alright, I'm half convinced you are joking...but the other half of me is afraid you're serious...what happened to your tolerance? Now you're a racist too?

I was waiting for you to say that.

You are not charged with a crime. You are involved in a debate. YOU are responsible for providing evidence to back up your claims, or you are mouthing opinions, not facts. Opinions can not be debated because they are purely subjective. Facts can be debated in terms of their validity, but only to a certain extent (ie, bias). Therefore, it falls on you to engage in a debate using facts. Keep your opinions for your friends.

Are you the internet overlord? Probably not. Everything is a matter of opinion. Live with it!

Where have I lied? I've lied a whole bevy of times. Point out a specific one to me or I'll get confused.

Fixed.

"AIDS is a gay disease."

Well if you do not have promiscuous straight sex, you will not catch the AIDs. Remain true to your wife or husband, you will not catch the AIDs. Er, no. Please get your facts right. You can catch it through blood transfusions, blood - any kind of bodily fluid - OR if your spouse has been cheating on you and you have done no crime.

You're not going to convince people that homosexual acts are sinful and that you're not bigoted by moralising. It doesn't work - trust me. It backfired on me in the abstinence ed. centre.

You and I have probably done worse things than homosexual sex. I'm not saying I condone it - but there are VERY much more important things in the world (shoves him towards the abortion debates…).!

...

Abstinence is the only thing 100% guaranteed to fail. Abstinence is a theoritical concept that sounds nice on paper, but cannot be properly applied. Kind of like communism :-P

Read my previous post, please: abstinence is inferior to sexual education: if it weren't, there would be FEWER teenage pregnancies in the USA than in Canada, not the other way around. And fewer HIVs, among them AIDS. And fewer abortions. And perhaps fewer cases of non-consensual sex.

Abstinence when used will never result in AIDs.

It's okay to be disgusted by somethings. It is not okay to voice your disgust in a manner mean to demean another.

True, oh how sushi disgust me! Those little bundles of rice and raw fish are an abomination, nay, a SIN in the eyes of the Lord! We should love the sinner, but hate the sin: so I guess I love sushi, as long as they try their best to repress their evil sushi ways!

Fixed.

"AIDS is a gay disease."

I was technically correct when I said that people who are gay and have it have a gay disease.

Are you the internet overlord? Probably not. Everything is a matter of opinion. Live with it!

Please. Like I said...mouth your opinions to your friends. Everything is NOT a matter of opinion...or do you think it is an 'opinion' that humans need oxygen to survive? No, that would be A FACT. If you think it is an opinion, please feel free to prove it wrong.

You french Canadians should all learn English!

I'm sure we're keeping you from spending some intimate time with your sister and/or cousins. Don't let us impose.


BTW quiz kid. When you are hammering out replies, you really don't have time to always be accurate. Try doing that frenchie french. The insult comic dog had you guys right.

The rest of us seem to have no problem, french or not. Maybe you're just stupid.

Alright, I'm half convinced you are joking...but the other half of me is afraid you're serious...what happened to your tolerance? Now you're a racist too?

Didn't know the French were a race??? Well, they should be I guess.

...

Abstinence is the only thing 100% guaranteed to fail. Abstinence is a theoritical concept that sounds nice on paper, but cannot be properly applied. Kind of like communism :-P

You bastard! thats my analogy!!
not only did you copy it, you butchered it! you forgeot te part about the nagage, and about how it all ends up with millions of dead russians!!

I'm sure we're keeping you from spending some intimate time with your sister and/or cousins. Don't let us impose.



The rest of us seem to have no problem, french or not. Maybe you're just stupid.

Maybe you're just stupid for replying to my posts? Hmm what do you think, little buddy?

I was technically correct when I said that people who are gay and have it have a gay disease.
Diseases have sexual preferences too? Yuck! Those germs fornicating unnaturally in our bodies!!! Save me!

True, oh how sushi disgust me! Those little bundles of rice and raw fish are an abomination, nay, a SIN in the eyes of the Lord! We should love the sinner, but hate the sin: so I guess I love sushi, as long as they try their best to repress their evil sushi ways! Stop trying to be funny. Sushi is not mentioned in the bible… well under raw fish, perhaps.

Abstinence when used will never result in AIDs. Yes, but most atheists don't have a reason to abstain and many people do not have iron wills, so you will need to convert the whole population. This will occupy most of your attention. Abstinence is a good idea that everyone should use. The problem is, they don't (can I look smug?).

I was technically correct when I said that people who are gay and have it have a gay disease.

You're just equivocating now, your backtracking isn't fooling anyone. Try avoiding logical fallacies if you're trying to prove a point.

No, wait. That's giving you too much credit. You're just an idiot.

You french Canadians should all learn English!


Who here thinks my English is better than this clown's?Raise hands please!

By that way, by that logic everyone on this planet should learn Mandarin, shouldn't we? After all, it IS the language spoken by the most people.

(For you, True Right, Mandarin is a chinese dialect, but you wouldn't know because you're oblivious to the fact that a beautiful, diverse world exists outside your little bubble of self-imposed exile. There are other places than central Jesusland, you know.)

Now who are the retards? Me for having posted this garbage, or everyone else who was so outraged at my intolerance and evil ways. I guess I am but you dumb-asses ain't all that far behind.

Laughing my fucking ass off. :p

You're just equivocating now, your backtracking isn't fooling anyone. Try avoiding logical fallacies if you're trying to prove a point.

No, wait. That's giving you too much credit. You're just an idiot.

Try not to be a dumbass by believing everything you read, flit-boy.

Maybe you're just stupid for replying to my posts? Hmm what do you think, little buddy?

"Ha ha. It was just a joke. lol."?

Bitch, please. Now you're just trying to save face.

Who here thinks my English is better than this clown's?Raise hands please!

By that way, by that logic everyone on this planet should learn Mandarin, shouldn't we? After all, it IS the language spoken by the most people.

(For you, True Right, Mandarin is a chinese dialect, but you wouldn't know because you're oblivious to the fact that a beautiful, diverse world exists outside your little bubble of self-imposed exile. There are other places than central Jesusland, you know.)

raises hand

Who here thinks my English is better than this clown's?Raise hands please!

By that way, by that logic everyone on this planet should learn Mandarin, shouldn't we? After all, it IS the language spoken by the most people.

(For you, True Right, Mandarin is a chinese dialect, but you wouldn't know because you're oblivious to the fact that a beautiful, diverse world exists outside your little bubble of self-imposed exile. There are other places than central Jesusland, you know.)

Raise hands if you think this person stinks of poutine and sardines. It's called summers eve, numb-nuts.

Try not to be a dumbass by believing everything you read, flit-boy.

That's exactly what I was doing. Thank you.

Hehehehe...that's like saying, "Now, I'm not racist (what a silly term)," but I just don't want to live next to no black folk...at least confess that you hate gays. Geez.

Bullshit. I have gay and lesbian friends. I get along with them just fine. I don't think that homosexual sex is right or okay, but do I bother them about it? No, because I don't believe that a person is the sum of his or her actions.

You bastard! thats my analogy!!
not only did you copy it, you butchered it! you forgeot te part about the nagage, and about how it all ends up with millions of dead russians!!

Alright, alright, I'm sorry :-P

I just love this analogy. Of course, anybody who read Marx has GOT to admit communism would be the best way of governing a country... The only problem is that there's no frickin way to make it work, except with a handful of very motivated illuminates. The same goes for abstinence: I'm sure there's at least two or three persons who managed to get it right in the last two thousand years :-D

Raise hands if you think this person stinks of poutine and sardines. It's called summers eve, numb-nuts.

You smell of Rush Limbaugh's anus. Case closed.

Alright, alright, I'm sorry :-P

I just love this analogy. Of course, anybody who read Marx has GOT to admit communism would be the best way of governing a country... The only problem is that there's no frickin way to make it work, except with a handful of very motivated illuminates. The same goes for abstinence: I'm sure there's at least two or three persons who managed to get it right in the last two thousand years :-D I think I can manage another ten years with it…

Now who are the retards? Me for having posted this garbage, or everyone else who was so outraged at my intolerance and evil ways. I guess I am but you dumb-asses ain't all that far behind.

Whos the fool? The troll or the fool that debates him?
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Little buddy, now you're just trying to win an arguement over the internet. You know it's like being in the special olympics. You may beat me but you are still a retard. Besides you are the king of the retards.

I had already won before we began.

Raise hands if you think this person stinks of poutine and sardines. It's called summers eve, numb-nuts.

Ah, the sweet scent of personnal attacks.

From now on, Thou Shalt be Ignored, Ye Ignorant and Bigoted Moron. Thus Is the Word of The FrenchMan That Really Is Not A FrenchMan, But Ye Are Too Dumb To Make The Difference Between An European And A Canadian.

I had already won before we began.

No because as a retard, you will never be a winner.

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... but what when we start trolling the troll?

Bullshit. I have gay and lesbian friends. I get along with them just fine. I don't think that homosexual sex is right or okay, but do I bother them about it? No, because I don't believe that a person is the sum of his or her actions.

You made the distinction yourself...these people are your FRIENDS. You tolerate them, even though there are aspects of their lives you don't agree with. That is tolerance. I'm sure you don't go around yelling that they're going to hell...not unless you plan on losing them as friends.

What I said was ridiculous is saying, "I know someone...I live by someone who is gay" and using that as proof that you aren't bigoted. Proximity is not enough. Friendship is.

No because as a retard, you will never be a winner.

Your "falling back on an internet catchphrase" defense is not working.

Little buddy, now you're just trying to win an arguement over the internet. You know it's like being in the special olympics. You may beat me but you are still a retard. Besides you are the king of the retards.

Wow, this has degnerated.

Now you have a problem with the mentally handicapped? Please stop pretending that you are 'just playing a role' with all the crap you've been spouting. I have no doubt that much of it was an act...since you've dropped the Jesus-hugging speech, and are now spouting bigotry and generally stereotyping left and right. What I do doubt, however, is that the views you have expressed differ from your actual beliefs.

Stop trying to be funny. Sushi is not mentioned in the bible… well under raw fish, perhaps.


On the contrary, I think I have all the right to try to be funny. This debate could use a little sense of humor, in my not-so-humble opinion.

I have seriously, very seriously heard those arguments I used against sushi being used to serve the case against gay marriage. It made about as much sense as when I say that I am not sushiphobe, I just don't approve of those who eat sushi because they're evil and sinners. Pu-lease. Like you said, eating raw fish is against the tenants of the bible, therefore, if I was Christian, I would be as justified in trying to render illegal sale and absorption of sushi as I would be if I was trying to prevent gays from marryine or living their life as they see fit.

The only difference between Canada and Europe is that you Canadians have no culture.
You are America, turned down low.

Nice try.
We know you want to be like us, especially since you pretend to be us when travelling overseas.
Shame you're too inferior.

To me it is. Numb-nuts. Oh shit, you beat me so badly! I could cry!! :rolleyes:

Honestly if you take me or anyone too serious you are the retard. Look I'm so full of shit my eyes are brown. I'm basically an abuser of NS. Just ask certain people, fuck -face.

Wow, your online persona really DOESN'T differ from your real one... you are ignorant (of facts), abusive (of others), bigoted and annoying. Well done...art mirrors life again...

To me it is. Numb-nuts. Oh shit, you beat me so badly! I could cry!! :rolleyes:

Honestly if you take me or anyone too serious you are the retard. Look I'm so full of shit my eyes are brown. I'm basically an abuser of NS. Just ask certain people, fuck -face.

BTW I guess this will be my last day as I'm going to be banned for the whatever time. This site has gotten dull as of late. I'll return from a supposed IP ban and come back to just be an asshole. It's what I do best.

Re: Bitch, please. No one is buying the act.

BTW I guess this will be my last day as I'm going to be banned for the whatever time. This site has gotten dull as of late. I'll return from a supposed IP ban and come back to just be an asshole. It's what I do best.

Well, everyone needs a purpose in life.

Re: Bitch, please. No one is buying the act.
No...he really isn't kidding...he's just trying to save face...if it was truly satire, he wouldn't be swearing at everyone and basically having a temper tantrum.

uhh i think weve gotten a little of topic here........

I guess he's just waiting to get kicked off.

uhh i think weve gotten a little of topic here........

Why, I have no idea what you're talking about....

What makes you say that?

Actually you silly fuck, I do this every so often out of boredom. Plus I like being banned and coming back. That's my point...you ARE your online persona. An ignorant bigot. Oh wait, a BORED ignorant bigot.

*Hands The True Right a bag of feathers, a bucket of tar and a few matches*

Well, if you enjoy doing something pointless and stupid, why not give us a show at the same time?

*steps back to a safe distance*

http://www.satanstephen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ban.jpg

That's my point...you ARE your online persona. An ignorant bigot. Oh wait, a BORED ignorant bigot.


Why are you bothering to answer him, Sinuhue? Join me, and let's go trigger happy with our I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons, shall we?

Why are you bothering to answer him, Sinuhue? Join me, and let's go trigger happy with our I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons, shall we?
I know...I usually don't bother...I guess I'm a little bored too! I don't like to put people on IGNORE, because I'd rather not censor myself. I just don't let it bug me. In any case, let us continue?

I can only speak for Israel--my father being Israeli. The Israeli right is polluted with religious nuts who hate gays. The Israeli left is divided between the more moderate Labor party, who call for civil unions, and the more hardcore parties who want full marriage rights. Overall, Israel is probably slightly more conservattive than America on gay marriage, but nothing like its neighbors.

I can only speak for Israel--my father being Israeli. The Israeli right is polluted with religious nuts who hate gays. The Israeli left is divided between the more moderate Labor party, who call for civil unions, and the more hardcore parties who want full marriage rights. Overall, Israel is probably slightly more conservattive than America on gay marriage, but nothing like its neighbors.

They don't already have civil unions? I was under the impression that they had them...

Saying that Israel is slightly more conservative than the US about gay marriage really smashes my impression that the country was relatively open-minded... because, quite frankly, the US of A really are very much conservative when it comes down to it. Do you really have senators and congressmen who compare homosexuality with bestiality and incest?(Thank you, Mr. Rick Santorum, for giving the world a negative image of our american neighbours!)

I am surprised at this thread, I mean didnt greeks + turks invent gay sex???

I am surprised at this thread, I mean didnt greeks + turks invent gay sex???


*sigh*

Nobody "invented" gay sex. And the fact that homosexual love was accepted two and a half thousand years ago or more in those region doesn't guarantee it's still accepted today. Neither does it mean that since it was rejected for centuries in Europe, that means today's Europe still rejects gay relationships.

*sigh*

Nobody "invented" gay sex. And the fact that homosexual love was accepted two and a half thousand years ago or more in those region doesn't guarantee it's still accepted today. Neither does it mean that since it was rejected for centuries in Europe, that means today's Europe still rejects gay relationships.
I thought some animal millions of years ago did...come to think of it, that could be another theory why the dinosaurs became extinct! [/sarcasm]