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I do. Not just in memory, but in good health

me too. i don't want to die as a vegetable with no memory, causing massive grief to everyone who knows me. I'd rather kill myself than go through that.

Humans are not designed to live forever. Our consciousness would not beable to tolerate it, in my opinion.

Humans are not designed to live forever. Our consciousness would not beable to tolerate it, in my opinion.
that's not the question....

Do you WANT to?

If I had eternal youth as well, and if everyone I knew had eternal life and eternal youth, I might- just might- say yes.

that's not the question....

Do you WANT to?
No. That would tear me out of the cycle. All life must be born, live, and die. If it skips the last part, can it really be considered alive? Nothing lasts forever, though humans try as hard as they can to try to change that.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Ohhhhh!
When love must di-i-ie!
/Queen

Here you guys go:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

Should give some food for thought :)

Here you guys go:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

Should give some food for thought :)
That's terrifying. If it is true, which I doubt, then our lives will be ruined. Who will be able to have children? But still, DNA is slowly damaged with each generation of cell, and I don't think we're nearly close enough to be able to do this yet.

I want to live forever. :headbang:

*Shaves de Grey's beard off*

It won't happen. Ever. It's immoral, and no one wants to live forever. Life is only the beggining.

That would be cool. Why not?

I used to love Eternal Warrior (anybody read that?)

About this guy from the stone ages, where he can live forever. So he lived through the many era's under many different names shaping the world's history that we actually live in.

*Don's trekky costume*

Would be nice to be immortal, to finally do things that I always wanted to do. But no idea, what I'll be doing once I finally done everything. Possibly I'll revert to science and travel to the stars. Seek out new life and new civilizations.

Though a world full of immortals would be a nightmare, unless we so happen to stop procreating.

The whole "float in space after the earth is consumed by the sun" thing would sorta annoy me.

Humans are not designed to live forever. Our consciousness would not beable to tolerate it, in my opinion.

I don't see why it couldn't. It couldn't handle being awake forever, but that's different.

Anyway, if there's something wrong with the design, upgrade the design.

Wowbanger the infinitely prolonged.

With certain things yes...

If it's living forever as your body degenerates into nothingness... then no not really.

If you mean living forever at say... the age of 25 or something... that'd be nice.

HOWEVER, the one stipulation must be that if I choose to die, then I can. For example, if one were immortal no matter what, then it would kind of suck after human civilization ends... you know... being all alone, floating around in space and all....

That would be cool. Why not?
Though a world full of immortals would be a nightmare, unless we so happen to stop procreating.

THEEEERRRRRRRRRRE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

Am I the only one who thinks it would be incredibly boring to live forever?

i want to liver forever, as long as I don't age after I reach my optimal health for the age of my choosing...

Am I the only one who thinks it would be incredibly boring to live forever?
you could invent a time machine and calling every historical figure "bastard"

I do. Not just in memory, but in good health
Same here.

Here you guys go:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

Should give some food for thought :)

wow....future dictators should take note(their regimes will be able to last a thousand years!)

Here you guys go:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

Should give some food for thought :)
AWESOME!!!!!!!! :eek:
I want to be 1000!!!! Or older!!!!

why is everyone so upset about floating through space?

why is everyone so upset about floating through space?
Who are you talking about? That would be sooooooooooooooooooo cool!!!!
Set a course nr.1. Warp 8. Engage!!!

If it's living forever as your body degenerates into nothingness... then no not really.

If you mean living forever at say... the age of 25 or something... that'd be nice.

Well, the opening post DID mention good health... and since you aren't exactly healthy anymore once your bones are turning into oil or something...

I want to at some point. I personally believe in an afterlife, and believe that it transcends all physical laws of this universe. That sounds like total freedom to me.

You only want to live forever since you see things as today maybe tomorrow. The information that your memory can hold is very little compared to the knowledge that would be needed to live those 1000 or more years. To live immortally is horrible... Think about it... "Hm... today i think I will get up and ... and... well i can go to work and do the same friggin' thing as if my life has only a few days to live... What would you do with your time? What purpose? How would you eat, drink, and sleep? How long would it take for childern to grow up? I wonder if you are really thinking here. Yes, death can be scary, but without death there should be no life... I am sorry I find death is much better than immortally... I have thought about this topic before and I realize it would suck to live longer than say 60... O well, that is my opinion and I guess I can't change yours...
~CAT
~Le Chat De Noir

Living forever would be nice, especially if I ahd a lot of the other powers that traditionally go along with immortality... But even without being able to smite people by simply willing it, I would enjoy immortality. It would be a lot like Goundhog's Day- I could do whatever I wanted.

Edit: Though the perfect way would be to be able to go into and out of death at will. So you could experience te Afterlife and still be able to hang out here. As if you would want to.

Edit: Though the perfect way would be to be able to go into and out of death at will. So you could experience te Afterlife and still be able to hang out here. As if you would want to.
Kinda like Raziel in Soulreaver.

I want to live until I make a decision to die, if I want to die, I just want to leave the option open.

I don't think anyone's brought up another point. Do you really want to live forever with what we're doing to our world?

THEEEERRRRRRRRRRE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

THERE CAN BE...ONLY NONE!

THERE CAN BE...ONLY NONE!

There can be only Juan?

There can be only Juan?

Not a SeaLab 2021 fan, I take it.

I don't just want to live forever, I plan on it.

I don't just want to live forever, I plan on it.
Good luck on that...

Good luck on that...

Thanks, but I won't need luck, my plans are in the works already. I will never die.

Given overpopulation and environmentall damage to this planet, I have to say that living forever would be undesireable. Given that I believe firmly in reincarnation, I do not carry the fear of death that drives people to strive for immortality. I admit that an extended length of time in which to develop the skills I have, in which to experience more of the world, would be nice, but I can accept that I'll never experience a single full percent of all there is in the universe, even if I live to be 10,000. I also have to wonder what kind of effect it would have on a person's mental health; I would not be surprised if, after a few hundred years, an individual's brain simply couldn't keep going and absorbing new information.

Another point that nobody has considered yet: this is new technology. New medical technology. You won't be living to 1,000 unless you've got quite a lot of money.

*Shaves de Grey's beard off*

It won't happen. Ever. It's immoral, and no one wants to live forever. Life is only the beggining.
Why is it immoral? What's so immoral about not dying? Billions of people don't die every day- which means the fact that it's immoral won't stop it from happening. Also, the poll clearly shows that a good many people DO want to live forever. Think before you post, man.

As for me- I've got far too many plans for the afterlife to risk not dying.

"You want to live forever? Well, I have good news for you. The Lord has made a promise..."


I was kind of surprised that noone had brought up eternal life and Christianity yet. I took it on myself to imitate a Jehova's Witness.

I think that it is the very fact that we will die that gives meaning to our lives. What would we have to live for if we we would forever? What would be the purpose of anything? We'd having nothing pushing us, forcing us to strive to reach our potential or to be better. Why should we improve today if we can always do it tomorrow? It sounds like a world of endless procrastination and no accomplishment to me.

I'd rather live a productive life of seventy years filled with friends and family and good work than to live forever knowing that tomorrow would hold no challenges for me.

i'd only want to live forever if there was no afterlife, but 1000 years seems and awfully long time, we'd need a longer education, working life and retirement. But i guess with so much time on our hands humans could acheive a lot more, or they could just play more video games

I think if a person was able to live long enough, they might be able to discover a way to evolve or transcend. 1000 years of education and learning would be great for this. Transcending would not be too bad of a way of living.

I would not want to live forever for a lot of reasons, but mostly because life ceases to be very meaningful if it doesn't end. Just look at Wowbagger the infinitely prolonged...you'd eventually resort to something like insulting every being alive just to pass the time, and that too would become meaningless after a while.

I think if a person was able to live long enough, they might be able to discover a way to evolve or transcend. 1000 years of education and learning would be great for this. Transcending would not be too bad of a way of living.

Evolution beyond the current state of humanity would not only be possible with life extension, it would be necessary. To live forever a person would need to be much more than their DNA gives them today, mechanical evolution is the next logical step now that human technology has stopped our biological evolution we must step in and take up where it left off.

To all the people who are worried about the state of the environment and think that living forever would be bad because the Earth's ecosystem is falling apart, there are a few important things you need to know about the future of the Earth and human evolution. The first is that the Earth is a robust system and will never allow humanity to destroy it b unbalancing the environment. If need be all humans will die to save the Earth, but I don't think it will even be necessary. And the second thing is that further human evolution is not a terrestrial goal. Humanity will not remain in the cradle forever, the organism that is all humanity will not stay an infant forever, and as it ages and grows out of its childish home it will seek new and greater homes away from the Earth. Only when it escapes the confines of the terrestrial crib will humanity once again begin to evolve organically, that is the first step toward immortality.

I wouldnt like to live forever because I would have to watch my family, and best friends die. that would suck

Humans are not designed to live forever. Our consciousness would not beable to tolerate it, in my opinion.
Better than it tolerates death, I would think.

Everybody deserves the ultimate peace and mercy.

Everybody deserves the ultimate peace and mercy.

Deserves?

You won't be living to 1,000 unless you've got quite a lot of money.

Heck you got 1000 years to break even!

Everybody deserves the ultimate peace and mercy.
Speak for yourself.

I wouldnt like to live forever because I would have to watch my family, and best friends die. that would suck
Well, you would have 1000 years to get over it.

Deserves?
Yes, to make way for new generations.

Yes, to make way for new generations.

Or, instead of dieing to make way for new generations we could just expand the area in which we live, leaving the planet, so that there is no problem of overcrowding.

And even then, people still don't deserve to die just to make room for younger people, if there was no death there would be no need for procreation.

The Emperor of Terra Zetegenia would rather not continue existing after Earth was turned into a frozen ball of rock when the sun died, nor after the inevitable consequences of the laws of Thermodynamics rendered the Universe a frozen void... and yet, if he lived forever, he would definately live through both of those. Hence, that option is unacceptable.

Why would you want to live forever??? Every single person you would know or love would die and you'd be alone... Sure, you could make new friends, marry again.... but in the scheme of things you would be entirely alone. Plus think of all the horrible things you would see in your life...

Or, instead of dieing to make way for new generations we could just expand the area in which we live, leaving the planet, so that there is no problem of overcrowding.

And even then, people still don't deserve to die just to make room for younger people, if there was no death there would be no need for procreation.
That would invalidate some of the criteria for life. Mainly reproduction and may also imply the lack in needing to ingest food. That would invalidate two of the criteria of what it means to be a life form. So what exactly would people be? Gods? Even many of the ancient gods were still subject to death.

The other notion is just way too imperialistic.

Why would you want to live forever??? Every single person you would know or love would die and you'd be alone... Sure, you could make new friends, marry again.... but in the scheme of things you would be entirely alone.
In the scheme of things you're alone anyway. Life is still beautiful.

Given overpopulation and environmentall damage to this planet, I have to say that living forever would be undesireable.

You should check out Kurt Vonnegut's novel
Galapagos for an interesting take on the future of the world, 1,000,000 years from now.

In the scheme of things you're alone anyway. Life is still beautiful.

alone to an extent. humans are social creatures. personally, the notion of immortality fascinates and terrifies me. anyone who's lost a good friend or gone through a rough breakup might feel the same way. imagine losing that someone millions of times over again and again. it would destroy even the sanest person.

That would invalidate some of the criteria for life. Mainly reproduction and may also imply the lack in needing to ingest food. That would invalidate two of the criteria of what it means to be a life form. So what exactly would people be? Gods? Even many of the ancient gods were still subject to death.

The other notion is just way too imperialistic.

First, reproduction is not a criteria for life. Second, no one said anything about not needing to eat. No one is suggesting immortality in the sense that people would be unkillable. What we are saying is that if the degeneration of DNA could be stopped there is very little aside from accidents and disease that would kill us, and diseases will become treatable, and accidents can be prevented. At least this is the short term goal, the long term goal is a transcendence of the frail human form, in the sense that everyone thinks of it, to become pure consciousness. It's not as farfetched as it sounds either, but it is still out of our reach. And of course, eating still isn't a criteria for life.

Imperialistic? No one is trying to create an empire, if anything we're trying to liberate humanity from the slavery of death. Spreading off world is not imperialistic, it's the natural evolution of a species sized organism. It grows until its surroundings cannot support it then it finds more space into which to grow, it's perfectly natural and shouldn't be resisted because of silly notions of empire.

I'm not sure I would be able to stay sane if I watched my friends and family continuosly die, and die, and die. I mean think about it, how many people here have partners(husband, wife or whatever) and then imagine them diing again, and again, and again.

I'd want to be immortal I'd be able to catch up on my reading with that much time. Not to mention that if you were going to live forever exploration of the universe would be possible even with some of the technology we have now you'ld just have to be patient. Though it would also be nice to have your friends also be imortal. The title remindes me of that song from Highlander
[{The Psyker wanders off humming "Who wants to live FOOREVAR

I told a friend who studied biology that I was going to take out a giant life insurance policy to pay for my cryogenic preservation. He said I was stupid because the moisture in my braincells woud crystalize destroying my cells preventing any possibility of reanimation. I think he is right. Any other practical suggestions?

I have heard some people say that one day they will be able to download our minds onto a computer but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Oh well they have a good sixty years or so to cure this rather unpleasent condition before I am likely to kick the bucket.

I'm not sure I would be able to stay sane if I watched my friends and family continuosly die, and die, and die. I mean think about it, how many people here have partners(husband, wife or whatever) and then imagine them diing again, and again, and again.
And what happens when those around you die? You go into self-imposed seclusion, you're alone and miserable for a long time, fearing experiencing that pain again. Eventually, you come out of it, and start connecting again. It'd be the same if you lived a thousand years.

I told a friend who studied biology that I was going to take out a giant life insurance policy to pay for my cryogenic preservation. He said I was stupid because the moisture in my braincells woud crystalize destroying my cells preventing any possibility of reanimation. I think he is right. Any other practical suggestions?

I have heard some people say that one day they will be able to download our minds onto a computer but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Oh well they have a good sixty years or so to cure this rather unpleasent condition before I am likely to kick the bucket.

Your friend was wrong. The issue of cells bursting as the water inside them expanded has been solved by the cryogenics industry and doesn't pose any threat to your potential for ressurection assuming you get frozen by trained professionals and not in somebody's garage.

The idea of death is very scary. The idea of living for millennia is absolutely, completely and utterly terrifying.

A hundred and some-odd is enough for me. Please don't let this project come to pass.

Both. I want both...
I like to the comfort in believing in reincarnation...
Until that little analytical side of my brains strangles the O2 out of my fantasy by demanding some rational for such an idea...

It's not a question of whether I want to or not. It's the fact that I *will* live on. I just won't have a physical form until my soul finds a new host. I'm a firm believer that a soul will have many physical hosts in it's lifetime. ^^

- Asylum Nova

I would want to live forever, bu tthen i would probably kill everyone else so that would be a bad idea, but fun

Humans are not designed to live forever. Our consciousness would not beable to tolerate it, in my opinion.


Right, eventually I think you'd suffer a fate far worse than death, you'd loose your mind. If not from seeing everything you ever cared about die around you as the milliena roll on but from mental stagnation. Sooner or later you'd do and know everything there is in the universe and then what?


So to answer the question, no, I do not want to live forever.

That's terrifying. If it is true, which I doubt, then our lives will be ruined. Who will be able to have children? But still, DNA is slowly damaged with each generation of cell, and I don't think we're nearly close enough to be able to do this yet.
Hmmm, It could be as close as they say, especially if you consider the predictions on how far technology(computers) would advance that were made by many in the 50's/60's. It's been so far past the expectations that it's quite frightening.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Ohhhhh!
When love must di-i-ie!
/Queen
I havnt been able to listen to that song since it was played at my friends 13month old baby

to answer the question, no I dont want to live forever, because I would just put everything off thinking that I had forever to do things, I wouldnt be inspired to do anything
life would be less meaningful if you lived forever, you wouldnt appeciate each moment

Holy Bujeezus,

My vote evened it at 60-60. We are really split on this issue.

For me, the only thing scarier than death, is not being able to die.

How many queen fans clicked this thread?

How many queen fans clicked this thread?
:D

No. I don't want to five forever. I rather die of natural causes rather than die of the evil that will come later.

First, reproduction is not a criteria for life.
Yes it is

Second, no one said anything about not needing to eat.It wouldn't be necessary

No one is suggesting immortality in the sense that people would be unkillable. The topic is however about living forever

And of course, eating still isn't a criteria for life.
Yes it is

Here are some of the criteria for what is considered as being alive
1 Growth
2 Metabolism, consuming, transforming and storing energy/mass; growing by absorbing and reorganizing mass; excreting waste
3 Motion, either moving itself, or having internal motion
4 Reproduction, the ability to create entities that are similar to itself
5 Response to stimuli - the ability to measure properties of its surrounding environment

And
1. Living organisms contain molecular components such as: carbohydrates, lipids, nucleic acids, and proteins.
2. Living organisms require both energy and matter in order to continue living.
3. Living organisms are composed of at least one cell.
4. Living organisms try to maintain homeostasis.
5. Species of living organisms will evolve.

So the clonclusion of the research:

About half of all humans don't want to live forever, so when I'm gonna invent a cure for death, I'm only taking the ladies with me :D

Mankind has the natural instinct to survive. Why fear the inevitable? Life is pointless, anyway. Personally, I'd choose to live until i'm bored then die. I believe that I am doomed to repeat this life for eternity anyway. It seems the only logical idea.

Uh...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/seclaw2.html#c2

wow....future dictators should take note(their regimes will be able to last a thousand years!)


:cool: I myself wouldn't mind living for ever, so long as I had the option to die. And with living that long, I might be able to complete some of my more private ambitions...like doing what Alexander the Great could not, not stopping on the Euphrates as Trajan did, not being a syco idiot like hitler, and do what no person may ever do in the world for all enterny, I want to conquer the world...and if I could live forever...then I have only bide my time...

It's my life. I'm not gonna live forever.

bump

Here you guys go:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

Should give some food for thought :)

all i want for christmas is that guy's facial hair power.

I hope to die sometime, as I know I'll never be fully dead. It will just be my physical form. I will continue to live on in spirit, and that would be good enough for me.

-Asylum Nova

PS: I am a fan of Queen. :D

BLECCHH!

This world sucks, who wants to be stuck here forever?
I want to go home, or sleep, or whatever.
When my time comes I'm saying, "See ya, suckers!"

How many queen fans clicked this thread?

There’s no time for us
There’s no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
From us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?

There’s no chance for us
It’s all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever?
When love must die

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Our Earth
First, reproduction is not a criteria for life.

Originally posted by Homicidal Pacifists
Yes it is

No it isn't. If I have no kids, am I not alive? What if I was born sterile, would I not be alive? Would you call that a stillbirth? Where is your proof?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Our Earth
Second, no one said anything about not needing to eat.

Originally posted by Homicidal Pacifists
It wouldn't be necessary

Why not? How about you explain your post so we can prove you wrong? The need to eat to provide energy would still be necessary. So why wouldn't we need to eat?

No. That would tear me out of the cycle. All life must be born, live, and die. If it skips the last part, can it really be considered alive? Nothing lasts forever, though humans try as hard as they can to try to change that.
Bravo.

Great Song....Queen rocks...

Anyway, as I have no trouble finding something interesting to do on a rainy Wednesday afternoon, I have little reason to ever want to die.

you could invent a time machine and calling every historical figure "bastard"


Arthur Dent?....

Bastard!

You only want to live forever since you see things as today maybe tomorrow. The information that your memory can hold is very little compared to the knowledge that would be needed to live those 1000 or more years.

This is not true. Your brain is quite capable of recycling and reusing long-term memory that it doesn't retrieve often. The likelyhood is that you would simply forget stuff that you never thought was important, and replace it with stuff that you used regularly. There may be an upper limit to the capacity of the organic brain, but it's well within the realm of possibility that in all that time, and with ample motivation one could find a plausible way to store virtually infinite amounts of information.

To live immortally is horrible... Think about it... "Hm... today i think I will get up and ... and... well i can go to work and do the same friggin' thing as if my life has only a few days to live... What would you do with your time? What purpose?

Suit yourself, if you don't want to do it, by all means. But just because you lack the imagination to come up with fun and exciting ways to spend your time does not make the prospect of immortality horrible.

How would you eat, drink, and sleep? How long would it take for childern to grow up? I wonder if you are really thinking here.

Of course we aren't really thinking here. This is a hypothetical question about something that for all we know right now is practically impossible. But I would be willing to bet that if it is possible, one would eat, drink, sleep, and mature much as they do today. Though, possibly, over a longer timeframe.

Yes, death can be scary, but without death there should be no life... I am sorry I find death is much better than immortally... I have thought about this topic before and I realize it would suck to live longer than say 60... O well, that is my opinion and I guess I can't change yours...

It would suck to live a long life strapped to a bed in a comatose state, or in constant pain, or something. It would most certainly not suck to be alive, vibrant, and aware, for an extended period of time. I have no trouble finding ways to keep myself busy and entertained. If you lack that imagination, that is totally your loss.

how the hell should i know?

id say yeah but what if i got like aids or something?

Yes it isIn the great words of Monty Python: "This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction."

Reproduction is not a criteria for life. There are living things which cannot, as a result of some malfunction, reproduce, but they are nonetheless alive. Furthermore, if a being were never to die it would no longer need reproduction, which serves primarily as an attempt at continuing the life of the DNA.

It wouldn't be necessary

See now, this just doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't eating be necessary for a person to live forever? Do you understand what prevents people today from living forever? It's not some magic that when you turn a certain age you keel over. People die as a result of one of 3 things; A shortage of necessary inputs (food, water, vitamins), a disease of one sort or another which destroys the body (I include such things as high cholesterol which can cause heart failure, as well as strokes and aneurisms which are often the result of accidents of situation more than anything else), or the degeneration of the DNA molecule over time. Basically, your body continually reconstructs the DNA molecule at all times, but eventually the decay is too much for the reconstructive elements and eventually the molecule decays beyond readability. That is the nature of dying of "old age" rather than dying of some disease. If a technology could be devised to reverse or at least halt the decaying process of the DNA life could be prolonged until disease or starvation set it, and diseases can be cured, especially with developing technology, so the only thing standing between a person an functional immortality would be a steady food supply. So eating would still be necessary, just like it is now.

The topic is however about living forever

Living forever is not the same as being unable to die. Think of life and death like inertia's movement and rest. Being alive is being in motion, and being dead (or not having been alive) is being at rest. An object which has never been alive, or which has died, will tend not to become alive unless some force acts upon it. Similarly, an object which is alive will tend to stay alive unless some force acts upon it (kills it). I'm not talking about changing the entire system of inertia so that the object becomes unstoppable, I'm talking about removing those specific things which would stop it. In other words, I'm not talking about people who cannot die, I'm talking about people who do not die because nothing acts upon them to kill them.

Yes it is

Here are some of the criteria for what is considered as being alive
1 Growth
2 Metabolism, consuming, transforming and storing energy/mass; growing by absorbing and reorganizing mass; excreting waste
3 Motion, either moving itself, or having internal motion
4 Reproduction, the ability to create entities that are similar to itself
5 Response to stimuli - the ability to measure properties of its surrounding environment

And
1. Living organisms contain molecular components such as: carbohydrates, lipids, nucleic acids, and proteins.
2. Living organisms require both energy and matter in order to continue living.
3. Living organisms are composed of at least one cell.
4. Living organisms try to maintain homeostasis.
5. Species of living organisms will evolve.

You present these nice definitions, but since you have provided no source for them you are basically asking people to accept your definitions of words even though they disagree with their own.

If you take "eating" to mean any processing of energy for growth (and include photosynthesis and the like, then I don't disagree that eating is a requirement of life. In fact, using that definition I would say that eating is the only requirement of life, and that the majority of the other definitions you offer are overly simplistic or simply contrary to the common understanding of the word as well as any truly functional definition by virtue of being unecessary constrictive and excluding certain entities otherwise considered to be alive.

This is terrible, and it clearly shows the humans fear of death. Sure, we may want eternal life now, but it just kills the system of nature. First man accepted death as a phenominon. Then he found God and the afterlife. Now people are so scared that heaven doesn't exist that they want to prolong their time on earth. So what if you reach 2000? What have you accomplished in life? Your just dependant on technology. I'd rather live to 100 in good heath that 1000 but depending on scientists to stop me from kicking the bucket.

*Shaves de Grey's beard off*

It won't happen. Ever. It's immoral, and no one wants to live forever. Life is only the beggining.

mad props, man

Are you all crazy. Human fear of Death, the non existance of God. Stop wasting the tiny flicker of life you have and go and live it. Live life as if there is no God and you will not live forever. Both a probably true so its a good start really.

Like I said, I'd do something worth wild with the 1,000+ years if I could have them. I'd carve an empire. If you have the will and the drive, and a good education any man can get to a position in some government. I myself would go slow, maybe taking control of a small country, Africa is split enough to allow that perhaps. Then with new policies and building of a better economy suited to making war materials. Its conceivable. I'd only have to bide my time and keep in the shadows and not show my true colors until I began conquering. Men who are remembered for eternity are not remembered for how they lived, but what they made and left behind after. Alexander had an empire, Caeser expanded Rome by twice its size, Octavian (Augustus) conquered Thrace and brought greece within Roman power as well as pushing the Roman fronteir to the Rhine, Napolean made a continent shake in its boots for two decades and nearly conquered it, Adolf Hitler (Bastard he is, but still went from nothing to a powerful ruler) conquered Europe, King Charles (Charlemaign) conquered Germany and Italy and nearly Spain, and others. I wouldn't my name being remebered for generations to come, along with leaving a united world under a single government behind.

I don't know about forever, but I would like to live until the hypothetical point at which I no longer wish to continue (if there is such a point).