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I firmly believe that such people deserve a nice soft padded room, with nothing to hurt themselves with.

Not necessarily, but some I guess...

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Nahh...fill the room with all sorts of dangerous equipment

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Read the whole thread. I didn't say that people didn't die, I am trying to inform people that it is not what they think.

What a stupid topic, what a stupid question, and what a stupid answer!

Thank you Austrealite, insightful that was... not.

Lacadaemon, I said people who believe it was faked. You are included in that.

Thank you Austrealite, insightful that was... not.

Lacadaemon, I said people who believe it was faked. You are included in that.

Fine, ignore the good and obvious evidence that the whole of world war II was a farce.

Thank you Austrealite, insightful that was... not.

Lacadaemon, I said people who believe it was faked. You are included in that.

Ah I forgot, everyone who tries to challange "Truth" is mental...oh how silly of me to forget that. Now I'll go back to being the Good Robot that I was programmed to be.

Fine, ignore the good and obvious evidence that the whole of world war II was a farce.

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my jaw just droped so hard when I read this, that it is now dislocated.

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my jaw just droped so hard when I read this, that it is now dislocated.


I'm pretty sure he's high or something. At least I hope so.

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my jaw just droped so hard when I read this, that it is now dislocated.

Oh yeah, it is, well go study the North Africa campaign. It makes no sense in millitary terms. No whatsoever. Why, on the eve of victory, would you withdraw your best divisions to "protect" the middle east that wasn't threatened.

And what about market garden?

Given the entire might of the western allies at that point, an extra brigade of infantry couldn't be found out of the whole of 21st army group, to make a quick thrust? I hardly think so, especially considering the royal screw up happening in Italy at the time.

Market garden was programmed to fail.

I firmly believe that such people deserve a nice soft padded room, with nothing to hurt themselves with.

thats an insult to the insane.

but seriously , whats up with the whackos. i had a kid at my school, with an IQ of 130, telling me that every massacre of jews was a conspiracy by the communist jewish bankers (yes that makes sense...NOT) to install a satanic new world order. When i laughed at him, he accused me of being a part of the jewish conspiracy.

Oh yeah, it is, well go study the North Africa campaign. It makes no sense in millitary terms. No whatsoever. Why, on the eve of victory, would you withdraw your best divisions to "protect" the middle east that wasn't threatened.


Well, there's plenty of oil, and it's right next to the USSR. Not threatened?

Market garden was programmed to fail.

And what would be gained by this?

Well, there's plenty of oil, and it's right next to the USSR. Not threatened?

Not by the germans or Italians. Which was the point. Oh look. It's 1942 and the tobruk garrison just surrendered. Why? Who in the hell knows? Oh that's right they were under orders too.

Don't even get me started on midway.

And what would be gained by this?

As per the 32 agreements, as later ratified and clarified by the "naughty document" it would give the USSR control over eastern europe.

Had it suceeded, Berlin would have been in allied hands before the Runsted offensive, giving the western powers control of Romania, bulgaria, the Czech's et al. It would also have stalled the soviets at around their 1917 border.

What is wrong with people. Why doesn'r anyone question the spheres of influence that were created after WWII. Do you think that the USSR just gave up eastern austria in the 50s, (despite the korean conflict) out of the good of their hearts.

Lacadaemon, you are obviously an intelligent lad.


But just because there are huge gaping gaps in your knowledge of the subject, you have arrogantly assumed that everyone else is wrong, and you know real truth.

Lacadaemon, you are obviously an intelligent lad.


But just because there are huge gaping gaps in your knowledge of the subject, you have arrogantly assumed that everyone else is wrong, and you know real truth.

What gaps, this theory is the product of painstaking research.

Not by the germans or Italians. Which was the point. Oh look. It's 1942 and the tobruk garrison just surrendered. Why? Who in the hell knows? Oh that's right they were under orders too.

Don't even get me started on midway.


Do you have any idea how close the Germans were to the middle east in 1943? And later, what would have stopped the Russians from taking the middle east if it was left unprotected?

What gaps, this theory is the product of painstaking research.


Your theory is this: everything that happened was planned. Great.

Do you have any idea how close the Germans were to the middle east in 1943? And later, what would have stopped the Russians from taking the middle east if it was left unprotected?

Yes. I know exaclty where the germans were in 1943 in relation to the middle east.

Torch, the complete allied take over of North Africa had been completed by May. 1943, and Husky the allied invasion of Scicily was sucessfully concluded later that year. By the end of 43, the western allies had moved up the Italian peninsula trapping some 30 german divisions and co-opting Italy as a co-belligerent.

During 43, the only reliable supply line to the USSR ran thorugh the middle east. So they would hardly invade. Given that USSR belligerence was not really a problem until 45-46 at the earliest, there was no reason to divert any fighting forces over the 1940 level at any time.

Your theory is this: everything that happened was planned. Great.

Planned ahead of time. It was a big show to justify the transition to the new world order.

Planned ahead of time. It was a big show to justify the transition to the new world order.

What is the purpose of this 'new world order?'

Planned ahead of time. It was a big show to justify the transition to the new world order.

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What is the purpose of this 'new world order?'

Well how would I know? They don't let me in on their plans you know. Notwithstanding, it got them what they wanted: global authoritarianism.

The war was pre-planed eh? In that case, please explain wht the war was started by someone who ended up committing suicide by the end of the war. If you were part of a plot to start a war, wouldn't you make sure you stayed alive at the end of the war?

Yes. I know exaclty where the germans were in 1943 in relation to the middle east.

Torch, the complete allied take over of North Africa had been completed by May. 1943, and Husky the allied invasion of Scicily was sucessfully concluded later that year. By the end of 43, the western allies had moved up the Italian peninsula trapping some 30 german divisions and co-opting Italy as a co-belligerent.

During 43, the only reliable supply line to the USSR ran thorugh the middle east. So they would hardly invade. Given that USSR belligerence was not really a problem until 45-46 at the earliest, there was no reason to divert any fighting forces over the 1940 level at any time.

The Allies were always fearfull of the Soviets.

The Germans were just a stone's throw away...they controlled the Caucasus Mts in 43.

The Allies were always fearfull of the Soviets.

The Germans were just a stone's throw away...they controlled the Caucasus Mts in 43.


That's it? I ask again, why would the soviets invade their own supply line at that point. There is simply no reason for many of the allies troop movements other than to prevent the war.

In fact the allies were not always fearful of the soviets. They never were, that is just part of the "official" history. Everyone knew there place.

As to the germans. I would hardly call the caucus a stones throw from the middle east, not after losing stalingrad. The germans had no land route at that point.

That's it? I ask again, why would the soviets invade their own supply line at that point. There is simply no reason for many of the allies troop movements other than to prevent the war.

In fact the allies were not always fearful of the soviets. They never were, that is just part of the "official" history. Everyone knew there place.

As to the germans. I would hardly call the caucus a stones throw from the middle east, not after losing stalingrad. The germans had no land route at that point.

Obviously to prevent the Brits from securing it after the war. Don't think for a second that the Soviets didn't have thier eye on that part of the world.

You can't just discard evidence against your case as pre-planned 'official' history.

They were ~100 miles from Turkey. That's pretty close.

And what about WWI? Was that planned? The Russian revolution?