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Oh God....I really opened up today.

Colodia
05-12-2004, 06:55
By reasons in which I won't explain why, I cried a lot today. But after I got over the first reason and came downstairs and took two tylenols, I started crying. Not because of the first reason, but because I just realized that there's no hope to live for a cause in this world.

Then I cried as I flashbacked to insignificant moments in my life and saw how pointless it all was for my future. I cried when I looked at the amount of Sat. fats and how likely it was for me to die of a heart-attack. I cried when I thought of the Bush administration. I cried as I watched Cops as a guy was arrested for possesion of heorin because I knew "this is the world I live in...". I cried as I watched Americas Most Wanted because I knew "These are the people in my world...". I cried as I watched the commercials trying to brainwash consumers and I thought "This is what my life will be filled with for the next 60..perhaps 70 years."

And I cried s'more. And at this moment I want to throw everything I've stood for and I want to move to either Canada or Britain. Probably Britain, they've got a larger variety of women than Canada.

And now I think, what am I doing here? Why am I here? Why did God (don't get into the God issue) give me all this knowledge of the world? Why am I not like everyone else, ignorant and stupid? Why should I fight on? Especially if people are just going to oppose me every step of the way? What happens when I get to the top? I become what I fought against for so long? What if I fail at my goal? Is my life worthless then?
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 06:58
Move to Canada instead.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:00
By reasons in which I won't explain why, I cried a lot today. But after I got over the first reason and came downstairs and took two tylenols, I started crying. Not because of the first reason, but because I just realized that there's no hope to live for a cause in this world.

Then I cried as I flashbacked to insignificant moments in my life and saw how pointless it all was for my future. I cried when I looked at the amount of Sat. fats and how likely it was for me to die of a heart-attack. I cried when I thought of the Bush administration. I cried as I watched Cops as a guy was arrested for possesion of heorin because I knew "this is the world I live in...". I cried as I watched Americas Most Wanted because I knew "These are the people in my world...". I cried as I watched the commercials trying to brainwash consumers and I thought "This is what my life will be filled with for the next 60..perhaps 70 years."

And I cried s'more. And at this moment I want to throw everything I've stood for and I want to move to either Canada or Britain. Probably Britain, they've got a larger variety of women than Canada.

And now I think, what am I doing here? Why am I here? Why did God (don't get into the God issue) give me all this knowledge of the world? Why am I not like everyone else, ignorant and stupid? Why should I fight on? Especially if people are just going to oppose me every step of the way? What happens when I get to the top? I become what I fought against for so long? What if I fail at my goal? Is my life worthless then?


It sounds like you hate yourself, which isn't good or is it that you hate the world? Sorry, I can't quite put everything together.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:01
It sounds like you hate yourself, which isn't good or is it that you hate the world? Sorry, I can't quite put everything together.
I hate the world, for now. Nothing's wrong with me. I am just too good for the world. It's like putting an iPod in a gas station bathroom. It's just worth too much to be there.
Matalatataka
05-12-2004, 07:02
Ah, dear heart. I ache for you. It often looks like things suck beyond all hope, and probably do, but there's always hope. Sounds like tripe and BS. Probably feels like it too. Just know you're not alone out here in shitsville. Hang in there. Tears are healthy. Have you ever thought about becoming an ESL teacher overseas? I hope to be out of here in another couple of months.

Anyone who wants to flame into this thread really doesn't need to. Just keep it to yourselves, please.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:03
I hate the world, for now. Nothing's wrong with me. I am just too good for the world. It's like putting an iPod in a gas station bathroom. It's just worth too much to be there.



Oh. Well I won't touch on that because I hate myself and not the world, so we are opposites I guess. World is a pretty sad piece of sh*t though.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:05
Ah, dear heart. I ache for you. It often looks like things suck beyond all hope, and probably do, but there's always hope. Sounds like tripe and BS. Probably feels like it too. Just know you're not alone out here in shitsville. Hang in there. Tears are healthy. Have you ever thought about becoming an ESL teacher overseas? I hope to be out of here in another couple of months.

Anyone who wants to flame into this thread really doesn't need to. Just keep it to yourselves, please.
Yeah, I know there are people like us out there. But I mean...what can we do? If we gain power, people leech onto us because we have so much. If we become quiet, people stomp on us. If we hang out in the middle, we end up leeching or stomping on others.

And I don't think this place would bring in flames. I know there are plenty of others that have realized this long before me.

I'm actually feeling better already.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-12-2004, 07:05
By reasons in which I won't explain why, I cried a lot today. But after I got over the first reason and came downstairs and took two tylenols, I started crying. Not because of the first reason, but because I just realized that there's no hope to live for a cause in this world.

Then I cried as I flashbacked to insignificant moments in my life and saw how pointless it all was for my future. I cried when I looked at the amount of Sat. fats and how likely it was for me to die of a heart-attack. I cried when I thought of the Bush administration. I cried as I watched Cops as a guy was arrested for possesion of heorin because I knew "this is the world I live in...". I cried as I watched Americas Most Wanted because I knew "These are the people in my world...". I cried as I watched the commercials trying to brainwash consumers and I thought "This is what my life will be filled with for the next 60..perhaps 70 years."

And I cried s'more. And at this moment I want to throw everything I've stood for and I want to move to either Canada or Britain. Probably Britain, they've got a larger variety of women than Canada.

And now I think, what am I doing here? Why am I here? Why did God (don't get into the God issue) give me all this knowledge of the world? Why am I not like everyone else, ignorant and stupid? Why should I fight on? Especially if people are just going to oppose me every step of the way? What happens when I get to the top? I become what I fought against for so long? What if I fail at my goal? Is my life worthless then?

I think that a lot of the subsequent crying stems from the original unmentioned reason you cried. SOmetimes a stressful moment(could be anything. Bad grade. Death of a loved one or anything in between) can break open a floodgate of emotional turmoil.

It happens to almost everybody at one time or another. The single most important thing to remember is that it passes. Hard to believe, sometimes. But it really does. It passes! You need to give yourself time to adjust and cope.

Talking about it helps too. Consider talking to a psychiatrist(quacks, but good listeners), priest or bartender. You just need some time to piece together your shattered perspective. That's all.

A good laugh can help too. That's why I'm mailing you an exploding canteloupe. You should get it in a couple days. :D
Katganistan
05-12-2004, 07:06
Stop watching TV. Really. Your grey matter will thank you. :)
Left-crackpie
05-12-2004, 07:06
What if I fail at my goal? Is my life worthless then?
pretty much...you can still get some ass, but apart from that, yeah, its pretty worthless
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:07
Oh. Well I won't touch on that because I hate myself and not the world, so we are opposites I guess. World is a pretty sad piece of sh*t though.
Well I don't know what to say. Except that we are similar, I guess.
The Black Forrest
05-12-2004, 07:08
Colodia...How old are you? Just a yuggin if I remember right.

Stop worrying about the world. It's far too big to get upset about. Worry about yourself and the type of person you.

Turn of the TV for starters.

Now crying for no reason and doing it over and over again is a bad thing. If you continue to do it, find a professional and talk about things....
Siesatia
05-12-2004, 07:09
Wow, I think about the same stuff. I hate the world, and pretty much all human life, as we tend to sqrew up the planet pretty bad, and can't stop fighting amongst ourselves to accomplish something great.
Left-crackpie
05-12-2004, 07:09
I hate the world, for now. Nothing's wrong with me. I am just too good for the world. It's like putting an iPod in a gas station bathroom. It's just worth too much to be there.
then we are equal, in that aspect at least: were both narcissists.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:09
Well I don't know what to say. Except that we are similar, I guess.



Well you see yourself as too good for this world, yes? I see myself as part of the reason this world is the piece of shit it is. In other words, I'm part of the problem, you seem to be part of an attempted solution.
Armed Bookworms
05-12-2004, 07:10
I hate the world, for now. Nothing's wrong with me. I am just too good for the world. It's like putting an iPod in a gas station bathroom. It's just worth too much to be there.
You really need to take a basic course in philosophy.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:10
Colodia...How old are you? Just a yuggin if I remember right.

Stop worrying about the world. It's far too big to get upset about. Worry about yourself and the type of person you.

Turn of the TV for starters.

Now crying for no reason and doing it over and over again is a bad thing. If you continue to do it, find a professional and talk about things....
14 for about half a year.

And the fact that I am so young and thinking this was just one of the reasons why I broke down.

And I guess I should keep away from the TV. But is watching The Daily Show alright? I mean....they do cheer me up!

I think the crying phase is over. Now I've got the headaches and the whole "Omigosh, I've gone through THAT MANY pieces of tissue?" phase...
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:11
14 for about half a year.

And the fact that I am so young and thinking this was just one of the reasons why I broke down.

And I guess I should keep away from the TV. But is watching The Daily Show alright? I mean....they do cheer me up!

I think the crying phase is over. Now I've got the headaches and the whole "Omigosh, I've gone through THAT MANY pieces of tissue?" phase...


Omg, you're younger than me. I thought you were 20 something.
Left-crackpie
05-12-2004, 07:12
14 for about half a year.

And the fact that I am so young and thinking this was just one of the reasons why I broke down.

And I guess I should keep away from the TV. But is watching The Daily Show alright? I mean....they do cheer me up!

I think the crying phase is over. Now I've got the headaches and the whole "Omigosh, I've gone through THAT MANY pieces of tissue?" phase...

yes, the daily show is as necesary as air.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:12
I hate the world, for now. Nothing's wrong with me. I am just too good for the world. It's like putting an iPod in a gas station bathroom. It's just worth too much to be there.
I used to think exactly like that. I'd wager quite a sum of money that you're depressed, and that seeing a psychiatrist, or at least a psychologist, would help greatly. There are medications to help with things like that. And I sympathise and empathise with you on every level. If I could just let like that for just a day, I think I would feel so much better the next. I think listening to some music might help too, escpecially the very elaborate music, liek Beethoven or Mozart. It always seems to help me. I also advise that you try to get out an be more social, if you aren't. That increased my mood astronomically. After I started to actually be around people more (this was done by transferring to a different, much smaller school), I felt so much better as well. Too much thinking also hurts, you need some distractions to help you. I don't know, really. I, again, suggest going to a professional who can help you therapeutically or pharmacologically. It really isn't as bad as people normally make it out to be. And if you already are...well then I don't know, change or something.

But once again, I feel for you. And it hurts...it hurts so much...
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:13
And I guess I should keep away from the TV. But is watching The Daily Show alright? I mean....they do cheer me up!
Yes. Though try not to look at the news too much until you feel you're better able to cope with it...

Edit:

Also, I'm 15, that might give me some more standing in my advice, as I noticed you're around 14.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:14
I think that a lot of the subsequent crying stems from the original unmentioned reason you cried. SOmetimes a stressful moment(could be anything. Bad grade. Death of a loved one or anything in between) can break open a floodgate of emotional turmoil.

It happens to almost everybody at one time or another. The single most important thing to remember is that it passes. Hard to believe, sometimes. But it really does. It passes! You need to give yourself time to adjust and cope.

Talking about it helps too. Consider talking to a psychiatrist(quacks, but good listeners), priest or bartender. You just need some time to piece together your shattered perspective. That's all.

A good laugh can help too. That's why I'm mailing you an exploding canteloupe. You should get it in a couple days. :D

Yeah well I did just go through something that both made me shatter in a matter of mere seconds. Had something to do with the amount of questions I asked. Apparently I question the world too much for some people and they just can't accept that in me. It was weird, one moment I was fine and able to ignore the whole ordeal. Next second I was in my sweater crying myself down. Really odd....

I think it should definatly pass, I mean...how long can I consider Canada to be a good option? :), j/k Canadians. You really are looking good today.

Hey, thanks guys for all the posts. I didn't expect such an amount. I'm gonna try to reply to as much as I can. If I don't get to yours, just remember I've read through it anyways and I appreciate it.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-12-2004, 07:16
That's okay. I'm sure I'll get a sternly worded letter from your parents when the canteloupe arrives. ;)
Matalatataka
05-12-2004, 07:17
Yeah, I know there are people like us out there. But I mean...what can we do? If we gain power, people leech onto us because we have so much. If we become quiet, people stomp on us. If we hang out in the middle, we end up leeching or stomping on others.



The only thing we can do in this life - find a sympathetic friend or two and cherish them for as long as they're in our lives. Beyond that it's all a crap shoot. Also, listen to what Lunatic Goofballs said. Good advice.

Try not to hurt or use others. Practice good Karma - even if it's bullshit it's a good thing to do. Definately watch the Daily Show or a Robin Williams comdey special - the only things really worth watching on TV. Definately find something to laugh about even if it's just yourself. Fuck the news! The news sucks!

As for moving, it can help, but you have to do it for the right reasons and try to leave the heavy emotional baggage behind. I've made a few drastic moves over the years and some were good but others were definately the wrong thing at the wrong time.

But the first thing I mentioned is the most important. Good friends are so vital in these dark days. Unfortunately, good friends can be hard to come by.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:17
I used to think exactly like that. I'd wager quite a sum of money that you're depressed, and that seeing a psychiatrist, or at least a psychologist, would help greatly. There are medications to help with things like that. And I sympathise and empathise with you on every level. If I could just let like that for just a day, I think I would feel so much better the next. I think listening to some music might help too, escpecially the very elaborate music, liek Beethoven or Mozart. It always seems to help me. I also advise that you try to get out an be more social, if you aren't. That increased my mood astronomically. After I started to actually be around people more (this was done by transferring to a different, much smaller school), I felt so much better as well. Too much thinking also hurts, you need some distractions to help you. I don't know, really. I, again, suggest going to a professional who can help you therapeutically or pharmacologically. It really isn't as bad as people normally make it out to be. And if you already are...well then I don't know, change or something.

But once again, I feel for you. And it hurts...it hurts so much...
Well I'm not sure if I want to be medicated for this. It feels like I'm actually thinking clearly for once.

And you know what the weird thing is? I seriously had a good long moment considering being a whole new person on Monday. I wanted to get out and meet people and be more social. I am, already. Just not with enough people that I can see everyday.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:17
You really need to take a basic course in philosophy.
No, that's not it. Thoughts like that accompanied my depression and social seclusion. When I got out of it and began to meet many new people that were smart in many ways, I changed my mind. More philosophy without going through this will just make it more severe.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:20
Actually, come to think of it, I had something like this happen to me a couple of years ago. I locked myself in my room while everyone else was sitting down stairs and talking and started to cry. Not that it is relevant but this just reminded me of that.
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:22
You need more social activities. And possibly some alcohol.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:22
Well I'm not sure if I want to be medicated for this. It feels like I'm actually thinking clearly for once.
You're not. Assuming your case is similar to mine, which it seems it is, the vein of thought you are taking is not as clear as it first seems. 7th Grade was the year when I really became depressed, and although it was 3 years ago and I don't remember terribly well, I believe I thought the same thing. But my mother forced me to go to a psychologist, then to a reccomended psychiatrist, and then to another psychiatrist when that one didn't work too well. And this year I just went to new school with very, very few students, all handpicked, who included me in their group. Everyone there is intelligent in their own way, and becoming friendly with people really helped me with that. I don't know what you can do like this, as I would've never been able to do that on my own, but I think you should think long and hard about it.
DeaconDave
05-12-2004, 07:23
Yeah well I did just go through something that both made me shatter in a matter of mere seconds. Had something to do with the amount of questions I asked. Apparently I question the world too much for some people and they just can't accept that in me. It was weird, one moment I was fine and able to ignore the whole ordeal. Next second I was in my sweater crying myself down. Really odd....

I think it should definatly pass, I mean...how long can I consider Canada to be a good option? :), j/k Canadians. You really are looking good today.

Hey, thanks guys for all the posts. I didn't expect such an amount. I'm gonna try to reply to as much as I can. If I don't get to yours, just remember I've read through it anyways and I appreciate it.


I don't know how to break this to you easily, but a lot of life is painful.

The trick is to tune out the big things, the things that you can't control, and concentrate upon what you can. In other words, find happiness when it is there, and don't sweat the other stuff. It's not your fault.

I guess my main points are:

1. Most of it is not your fault, so don't worry about it. Don't sit there contemplating cosmic angst.

2. Treat every day as an opportunity to be happy. Find something that you like, tell a joke &ct. Look at life as a fun adventure. Bad things are going to hapen anyway, as long as you are not part of making them happen, don't let them get you down.

3. Into every life, some piss must tinkle. Buy an unbrella.

Mostly, it's never that bad, and even when it it is, it isn't. :)
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:24
Now that I reflect, I'm not so sure if I've got a depression issue. I think I'm just thinking too deep into life. I've given philosophy a brief thought or two in my life. But I dismissed it, seeing as how I didn't know what philosophers earn as a salary. I mean...seriously...what DO they do? If they lead good lives, I wouldn't mind thinking about it.

Even perhaps a course or two in college or something would be nice to try out.


And I think I know what I really need. Not just more people, but people who are my age and think similar to me. I mean, that's what I feel is missing in my life. Someone who also thinks that the world is screwed and that we're all screwed unless we do something about it. And actually works toward it. And actually listens to current events as well. I mean...hell...I wish my reflection could leave the bathroom...
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:24
You need more social activities. And possibly some alcohol.
No, another depressant is not what she (?) needs. Only prescribed drugs until she can get her psyche and physiology under control. Yes, there are indeed physiological and chemical reasons for depression.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:26
No, another depressant is not what she (?) needs. Only prescribed drugs until she can get her psyche and physiology under control. Yes, there are indeed physiological and chemical reasons for depression.
he...I'm a guy...
Jeruselem
05-12-2004, 07:26
You're young and still have much to live for. You may not see living being with much now, but young people need direction and purpose in their developing years where they are vulnerable to outside influences. The world is a destructive place but then the wars between good and evil (in the Biblical sense) will rage on after all of us are gone. Find a cause to help the world as it is no good moaning why it is the way it is. If you give up, then the people are evil have won already.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:27
No, another depressant is not what she (?) needs. Only prescribed drugs until she can get her psyche and physiology under control. Yes, there are indeed physiological and chemical reasons for depression.




I believe its a he and alcohol is the worst thing you can use. I know someone who was talking anti depressants but kept drinking and they counter each other and you end up where you begin.
Booslandia
05-12-2004, 07:27
Dude. Stop crying. The world sucks. Not just America. The world sucks, because people in general suck. Rather than crying or becoming so angry you give yourself a stroke, I suggest that you put all that newfound sense of righteousness to work in activism. There are activist groups all over the country which could USE a motivated, passionate person to do any number of things to help advance causes which you espouse.

Crying won't help changing anything. Running away only leaves your problems to catch you later when you least expect it.
Yarg Sarkor
05-12-2004, 07:27
and so what if the world and life are meaningless?

i find it interesting that you would come to a conclusion like that...i've felt that way for years. it seems as though we shoud be more in control of our lives and the things happening in our lives.

my advice is to completely stop watching tv.

read a good book or make some craft or go out and play some sports or something. what you need to do is take a break. take some time and figure out what all of the things happening in this world mean to you. find perspective. it is ok to feel sad that children are starving in africa and it is ok to feel angry that someone set off a car bomb or what ever...but take some time and figure out what affect these events have upon you. don't let the tv convince you that these events are of greater magnitude to you than they really are.

once you have perspective of where you fit into the world (may take a while for that to happen (depends...days weeks months years...only you know)) then you can see what you really feel is important and act accordigly.

just beacuse life has no meaning of its own doesn't mean that you can't give it one.
Frankletopia
05-12-2004, 07:29
Aww, the world isn't what it seems..poor baby..

c'mon, if you're going to play the "emo, but intellectual kid" part, then at least realize that you cant change any of it. Just say "fukk it" and live your short life. Everyone else does, and if you're THAT smart then you might know to stop complaining and deal with the world.

It's crappy enough; we don't need a bunch of angry hippies to just annoy the hell out society. I really urge you to go to Canada.
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:29
No, another depressant is not what she (?) needs. Only prescribed drugs until she can get her psyche and physiology under control. Yes, there are indeed physiological and chemical reasons for depression.

Prescribed drugs for this would be disgusting, in my opinion. I don't really see a problem. Bad day, not very comfortable with the ways things are going, so what. Do something about it, but don't pay for some psychologist to tell you what you already know.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:30
Now that I reflect, I'm not so sure if I've got a depression issue. I think I'm just thinking too deep into life. I've given philosophy a brief thought or two in my life. But I dismissed it, seeing as how I didn't know what philosophers earn as a salary. I mean...seriously...what DO they do? If they lead good lives, I wouldn't mind thinking about it.

Even perhaps a course or two in college or something would be nice to try out.


And I think I know what I really need. Not just more people, but people who are my age and think similar to me. I mean, that's what I feel is missing in my life. Someone who also thinks that the world is screwed and that we're all screwed unless we do something about it. And actually works toward it. And actually listens to current events as well. I mean...hell...I wish my reflection could leave the bathroom...


What do you think you are going through if it isn't depression? I mean, people are pissed off at the world all the time but you seem to have that extra leap of it. I was in a state of depression before, so I'll understand somewhat.
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:31
And eh, what's with all the "the world sucks, people suck" stuff around here?

Take a look around you, if you're able to type up a reply to this message, chances are you're better off than 80% of the earth, is that a reason to be happy or sad?
The Black Forrest
05-12-2004, 07:31
Well I'm not sure if I want to be medicated for this. It feels like I'm actually thinking clearly for once.

And you know what the weird thing is? I seriously had a good long moment considering being a whole new person on Monday. I wanted to get out and meet people and be more social. I am, already. Just not with enough people that I can see everyday.

Don't worry about being medicated. Leave that to the professional. That is what the talking is for. Somepeople just need a "chemical realignment" it's not for everybody.

You may think are fine but you may not.

Again, you may not need anything at all. Might be just a bad low point. People go through them all the time. The warning sign is if it continues for long periods of time.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:31
But I dismissed it, seeing as how I didn't know what philosophers earn as a salary. I mean...seriously...what DO they do? If they lead good lives, I wouldn't mind thinking about it.
Well, philosophers in this day and age don't get a salary. But they can become novelists or playwrites. Or both.

I just finished reading a book on Friday, No Exit: and Three Other Plays by Jean-Paul Sartre. I swear it was awesome and intrigued me very much, and a lot of it was philosophical. I heavily reccomend it to anyone who's interested in philosophy. It is translated from French, and the four plays are No Exit, The Flies (look at my sig), Dirty Hands, and The Respectful Prostitute. They are all very good, even though I didn't they'd be at the beginning. The version I have was translated by S. Stuart and I. Abel. In fact, the girl I'm in love with lent me the book, and finding out that she read philosophy was what made me fall in love with her. So perhaps philosophising may get you dates with intellectuals ;) .
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:31
I really urge you to go to Canada.



Don't go to Regina, though.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:31
Aww, the world isn't what it seems..poor baby..

c'mon, if you're going to play the "emo, but intellectual kid" part, then at least realize that you cant change any of it. Just say "fukk it" and live your short life. Everyone else does, and if you're THAT smart then you might know to stop complaining and deal with the world.

It's crappy enough; we don't need a bunch of angry hippies to just annoy the hell out society. I really urge you to go to Canada.
Bite me, I'm no emo. Or goth for that matter. I just really had a moment where I hated every person in the world that made it a terrible place.

And that attitude really helps the world go on, ya know? 2050 and we'll find ourselves with dead babies and rotting bodies everywhere going "Oh damn, guess we should've thought about this 60 or so years ago!"
Avios
05-12-2004, 07:34
I hate the world, for now. Nothing's wrong with me. I am just too good for the world. It's like putting an iPod in a gas station bathroom. It's just worth too much to be there.

You have realized the modern struggle of the proletariat. E-mail me if you’re interesting in talking further. ( Pelican_13@Yahoo.com )
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 07:34
Dude. Stop crying. The world sucks. Not just America. The world sucks, because people in general suck. Rather than crying or becoming so angry you give yourself a stroke, I suggest that you put all that newfound sense of righteousness to work in activism. There are activist groups all over the country which could USE a motivated, passionate person to do any number of things to help advance causes which you espouse.

Crying won't help changing anything. Running away only leaves your problems to catch you later when you least expect it.

Oh nice one.

That's right, you just can't wait to put an upset kid down any further can you.

Grow up and keep your activism to yourself.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:34
And eh, what's with all the "the world sucks, people suck" stuff around here?

Take a look around you, if you're able to type up a reply to this message, chances are you're better off than 80% of the earth, is that a reason to be happy or sad?
I am better off. That's kinda the problem. The fact that I'm better off than anyone else, I can look down, see all these people, and realize "Oh my ****ing God..."

It was something that was clear to me forever, but only impacted recently.
New Exodus
05-12-2004, 07:34
Originally posted by Colodia
14 for about half a year.

And the fact that I am so young and thinking this was just one of the reasons why I broke down.

And I guess I should keep away from the TV. But is watching The Daily Show alright? I mean....they do cheer me up!

I think the crying phase is over. Now I've got the headaches and the whole "Omigosh, I've gone through THAT MANY pieces of tissue?" phase...

Yeah, I'm 17, and I remember going through that. Are you in any gifted programs, per chance? The best advice I can offer to deal with the sense of impending tragedy is to not do anything hastily, and just persevere. I survived by pressing onward, clinging to faith in a better future. Over three years, every major up was followed by a stunning fall. It was like a roller-coaster; no matter how many times you rise, you will still end the ride at the very bottom. I spent many nights crying out for answers, but refusing to give up on life. Now, I understand that all my suffering in those years was worth the gain I've had in the past twelve months. It will get better.

Also important, don't believe that you are the only one who "truly sees" the world. While it seems that we are isolated and alone, there are many of us out in the world, asking the same questions and feeling the pressure of society's decline. (An interesting note is that many of us have different views on what is causing that decline.) We must also fight the idea that we are too good for the world, that we are somehow less stupid or ignorant, or that our few insights make us superior.

I don't know why we are this way, though there are theories enough to fill a library. I believe it was a fluke (or act of intelligent design, your choice) of genetics and environment that created us. But that means we have little right to feel superior, and must instead work to let all the world have access to what made us who we are. Of course, right there you can see ego at work. There is no reason other than our self-confidence (and narcissism) to believe everyone should be like us.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:35
Prescribed drugs for this would be disgusting, in my opinion. I don't really see a problem. Bad day, not very comfortable with the ways things are going, so what. Do something about it, but don't pay for some psychologist to tell you what you already know.
Good god, I hate that mindset. You are obviously ignorant of the issue. That was my mindset (though to a lesser degree) before I went to a psycologist, then psychiatrist for my problems. I was forced to by my mother, and wouldn't've done so myself. But prescribed drugs are not disgusting, they can really help. And psycology is not all telling people things. It can be therapy (even though it never worked well for me). But the prescription drugs are not disgusting, and if someone breaks down crying all day, then it's not just a "bad day".
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 07:35
Aww, the world isn't what it seems..poor baby..

c'mon, if you're going to play the "emo, but intellectual kid" part, then at least realize that you cant change any of it. Just say "fukk it" and live your short life. Everyone else does, and if you're THAT smart then you might know to stop complaining and deal with the world.

It's crappy enough; we don't need a bunch of angry hippies to just annoy the hell out society. I really urge you to go to Canada.


Yeah, it's not what you think either.

The only thing that kept you alive is the social contract too. Don't belittle people.
Frankletopia
05-12-2004, 07:36
Bite me, I'm no emo. Or goth for that matter. I just really had a moment where I hated every person in the world that made it a terrible place.

And that attitude really helps the world go on, ya know? 2050 and we'll find ourselves with dead babies and rotting bodies everywhere going "Oh damn, guess we should've thought about this 60 or so years ago!"

Stop thinking about the future and embrace the present. And thinking pessimisticly will only make your life as you view it. Chill a bit. Lay back. Maybe smoke (some more) if that's what you do.
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:36
Bite me, I'm no emo. Or goth for that matter. I just really had a moment where I hated every person in the world that made it a terrible place.

You sure did sound like one. The typical wannabe-depressed-but-really-doesn't-have-anything-to-be-depressed-about teenager. Sorry to have misjudged you.

And that attitude really helps the world go on, ya know? 2050 and we'll find ourselves with dead babies and rotting bodies everywhere going "Oh damn, guess we should've thought about this 60 or so years ago!"

What attitude? And which doom scenario are you talking about here?
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:36
Oh nice one.

That's right, you just can't wait to put an upset kid down any further can you.

Grow up and keep your activism to yourself.
I don't feel bad from him. I'm not all that upset anymore really.

I feel pretty good now. Still feeling the whole "God, what a shitty world" feeling, but I can cope with it.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:37
You sure did sound like one. The typical wannabe-depressed-but-really-doesn't-have-anything-to-be-depressed-about teenager. Sorry to have misjudged you.



What attitude? And which doom scenario are you talking about here?
Oh, well at least you are sensible. I don't usually get like this, this is one of those weird days where something hits you and you think about it and you make realizations.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:40
I don't feel bad from him. I'm not all that upset anymore really.

I feel pretty good now. Still feeling the whole "God, what a shitty world" feeling, but I can cope with it.


A word of catious advice: This obviously is going to stick with you for a while but if you start to get those feelings again you experienced today, there may be something deeper to this. Now I could be pissing in the wind on this but this what happened in my experience, so I'm trying to pass the advice on.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:41
You sure did sound like one. The typical wannabe-depressed-but-really-doesn't-have-anything-to-be-depressed-about teenager. Sorry to have misjudged you.



What attitude? And which doom scenario are you talking about here?
Shut the hell up. You obviously have no understanding of the situation, and are just going to make it worse. Please, stop acting all holier-than-thou and don't look at this thread anymore. You also don't seem to be able to realise the consequences of actions in the long run, but that's a whole 'nother story.

Stop thinking about the future and embrace the present. And thinking pessimisticly will only make your life as you view it. Chill a bit. Lay back. Maybe smoke (some more) if that's what you do.
No, non-prescribed drugs are not the answer. Vices are not the way to get rid of a depression.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:41
when is someone going to tell this guy to shut up and put a bullet in his fÜcking head?



Who are you talking about? If its about Colodia, you can go and **** yourself, he didn't ask to be flamed.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:42
when is someone going to tell this guy to shut up and put a bullet in his fÜcking head?
Hey, no one asked you to come, alright? I didn't beg for your advice. We don't want you here, we don't need you here, you are not worth anything here in this thread.

If you have any common sense, you'd walk out immediatly. But I think you don't and that you'll reply to this.
Matalatataka
05-12-2004, 07:42
when is someone going to tell this guy to shut up and put a bullet in his fÜcking head?


Three posts, huh. Save us some grief and GTFA! Please.


PS Thanks Katganistan. Nice reason. (sometimes) The mods kick ass!
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:42
Good god, I hate that mindset. You are obviously ignorant of the issue. That was my mindset (though to a lesser degree) before I went to a psycologist, then psychiatrist for my problems. I was forced to by my mother, and wouldn't've done so myself. But prescribed drugs are not disgusting, they can really help. And psycology is not all telling people things. It can be therapy (even though it never worked well for me). But the prescription drugs are not disgusting, and if someone breaks down crying all day, then it's not just a "bad day".

I didn't say all prescribed drugs are disgusting, I'm not denying the obvious fact that prescribed drugs can be necessary to get out of a serious depression.
But coming home one day, losing interest in how the world works, crying and then obviously feeling better afterwards is not a depression.
Kuroi Doragon
05-12-2004, 07:42
In a way i kinda know what your going through. I had gone through something similar when i was around that age. I think I was boarderline suicideal, but as a whole I was majorly depressed, I got over it though mainly by just talking about my problems to my parents, and for the most part I stopped paying so much attention to mainstream media. But overall just hang in there it will all pass in time.
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 07:43
I don't feel bad from him. I'm not all that upset anymore really.

I feel pretty good now. Still feeling the whole "God, what a shitty world" feeling, but I can cope with it.

Good show. And remember Noli illegitimi carborundum.

It'll make sense eventually. Now I'm off to start a flame war.
Frankletopia
05-12-2004, 07:43
No, non-prescribed drugs are not the answer. Vices are not the way to get rid of a depression.

haha. "Non-prescribed drugs" can give you the answers to ANYTHING. It's not for the depression tho, it's just to bring the mood down a notch.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:44
I feel pretty good now. Still feeling the whole "God, what a shitty world" feeling, but I can cope with it.
Perhaps you can, but I am 99% sure what you say is a symptom of depression, and no matter what these people afraid of or "disgusted by" prescription drugs are ignoramuses. There are easier and less damaging ways to take care of this. Humans didn't evolve to suffer. No life is meant to suffer.
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:44
Shut the hell up. You obviously have no understanding of the situation, and are just going to make it worse. Please, stop acting all holier-than-thou and don't look at this thread anymore. You also don't seem to be able to realise the consequences of actions in the long run, but that's a whole 'nother story.


No, non-prescribed drugs are not the answer. Vices are not the way to get rid of a depression.

OOOOOooookaaay....I think that's enough debate over what solutions are better!

I think I'll request a lock for this thread. Simply because those who've had good to say have spoken and chances are that the thread will be full of morons (hey, if you don't like being called it, don't act like it!) later on.
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:45
Shut the hell up. You obviously have no understanding of the situation, and are just going to make it worse. Please, stop acting all holier-than-thou and don't look at this thread anymore. You also don't seem to be able to realise the consequences of actions in the long run, but that's a whole 'nother story.

Who's acting holier-than-thou? You don't seem to be able to tolerate any other opinion than your own "Oh my god, this kid is dead meat for the vultures if we don't help him! Let's send him to a psychologist!"-line.

Get civil or get lost.
Minervan
05-12-2004, 07:45
Thee posts, huh. Save us some grief and GTFA! Please.

hey I joined before u Mr. forum nazi.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:45
I didn't say all prescribed drugs are disgusting, I'm not denying the obvious fact that prescribed drugs can be necessary to get out of a serious depression.
But coming home one day, losing interest in how the world works, crying and then obviously feeling better afterwards is not a depression.
Have you ever had clinical depression? No? Then shut the f**k up. If yes, then you're a f**king moron.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:47
Who's acting holier-than-thou? You don't seem to be able to tolerate any other opinion than your own "Oh my god, this kid is dead meat for the vultures if we don't help him! Let's send him to a psychologist!"-line.

Get civil or get lost.
You're right, I probably should get more civil. But I went through almost the exact same thing just a few years ago, and I know what it's like. You obviously don't. I just can't bear to see your harmful posting...it really just revolts me.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:48
hey I joined before u Mr. forum nazi.



Coming into a thread about something like this and saying that someone should put a bullet through his head is unacceptable. And he's not being a forum nazi, he's weeding out those who have nothing relevant to say.
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:50
OOOOOooookaaay....I think that's enough debate over what solutions are better!

I think I'll request a lock for this thread. Simply because those who've had good to say have spoken and chances are that the thread will be full of morons (hey, if you don't like being called it, don't act like it!) later on.
Good idea...I think I'm losing a little of my self control with some people in here...all that's going to be left now is flaming. And no, I'm not above it. I can get very angry...
Minervan
05-12-2004, 07:50
Coming into a thread about something like this and saying that someone should put a bullet through his head is unacceptable. And he's not being a forum nazi, he's weeding out those who have nothing relevant to say.

sadly my post is the most relevant. Darwin would be pleased.
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:51
You're right, I probably should get more civil. But I went through almost the exact same thing just a few years ago, and I know what it's like. You obviously don't. I just can't bear to see your harmful posting...it really just revolts me.

Yes, but you have to agree with me that not everyone who goes through a day of feeling bad and crying (which, I believe, just about every person has had several times) turns out to need psychological assistance.

I'm sorry if I offended with the alcohol line, but I meant it as "go out and have a beer with friends" not as "get completely wasted and slit your wrist in a drunken stupor" way ;)
Gnostikos
05-12-2004, 07:53
I'm sorry if I offended with the alcohol line, but I meant it as "go out and have a beer with friends" not as "get completely wasted and slit your wrist in a drunken stupor" way ;)
Ahh...but is that really a good, or safe, idea at 14?
Colodia
05-12-2004, 07:53
sadly my post is the most relevant. Darwin would be pleased.
Meh, ya know...I don't think I can really say anything more against the guy. I act like him sometimes to other people in other sites that're filled with people who've had shitty lives. Damn, makes me feel pretty bad. But makes me feel good in other ways. I get sickly amused easily.
New Granada
05-12-2004, 07:54
Many of the same emotions got me depressed on "black wednesday" when kerry conceded.


The fact of the matter is this:

America is a hostile environment for thoughtful people.

The best thing to do is just start making plans to get out, things are genuinely only going to get worse.

I for one am going to england for two weeks this winter in the hopes of finding an immigration sponsor.
La Terra di Liberta
05-12-2004, 07:55
Meh, ya know...I don't think I can really say anything more against the guy. I act like him sometimes to other people in other sites that're filled with people who've had shitty lives. Damn, makes me feel pretty bad. But makes me feel good in other ways. I get sickly amused easily.



I have one final question, where you serious about the immigration thing or was that in the heat of the moment?
Grogginc
05-12-2004, 07:56
Ahh...but is that really a good, or safe, idea at 14?

Hmm, yeah, I just realized that would be illegal in the US (but it obviously does happen, right?).
Consider my alcohol statement removed then :)
Katganistan
05-12-2004, 07:57
Closed as per request of thread author.