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What culture do you think is superior, and why?

I think it is upper middle class/middle class white, because that is the productive group that makes the most money, has the least social problems, and works the hardest.

superior in what way?

In any way. The culture that you feel is the best.

Whose going to be the first one to try to argue that my culture is equal to that of some gangster in LA?

best in what regard

gangsta culture is way BETTER at killing people than your culture

I think it is upper middle class/middle class white, because that is the productive group that makes the most money, has the least social problems, and works the hardest.
This is true, but this is also the group that contains the most PHB's. As such that downgrades it.

Damnit, this is disgusting. There is no superior culture, just different ones. One may prefer a certain culture over another, but saying that it's superior just makes we want to vomit. How can anyone actually say that there is a superior culture? I cannot believe you people...

The superior culture is the one that observed us from space and decided to get the hell out of our solar system for fear of being fucked up by our planet.

Whose going to be the first one to try to argue that my culture is equal to that of some gangster in LA?

There would be no point. You operate out of an ethnocentric worldview (as do most people), which essentially means that you judge others according to the standards of the group you identify with, and with that type of worldview you would never see groups that differ substantially from the one you identify with as equal. I suppose I could try to appeal to your values to improve your estimation of another group, but I won't, since from your challenge I conclude that you hold very strong beliefs on the issue that are unlikely to change regardless of the arguments brought forth.

I think it is upper middle class/middle class white, because that is the productive group that makes the most money, has the least social problems, and works the hardest.

Actually some gangsters also make alot of money and work very hard!

The 2 green aliens on the Simpsons are clearly the superior culture. Hell did you see their cool space ship?

Point being: This thread sucks. In order to declare a culture "superior" you have to define what is superior.

Academics?
Athletics?
Religion?
History?
etc.etc.

best in what regard

gangsta culture is way BETTER at killing people than your culture


No, we have a lot of people that have fired thousands of shots in FPS games, which it has been proven in studies, to help significantly with accuracy. Plus my culture has smarter people, so we would poison them with chemicals.

This is true, but this is also the group that contains the most PHB's. As such that downgrades it.

PHB?

Actually some gangsters also make alot of money and work very hard!


I was refering to people that work a real job, like not selling drugs or pimping underage girls.

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.

Point being: This thread sucks. In order to declare a culture "superior" you have to define what is superior.

Academics?
Athletics?
Religion?
History?
etc.etc.


Well, in general, the capitalist culture which promotes and rewards work is better.

Thanks for the thread Kahta, your retarded

;)

hope egocentricism works for you

Thanks for the thread Kahta, your retarded

;)

hope egocentricism works for you


It does.

It does.
To each their own. Even if it's narcissism.

I was refering to people that work a real job, like not selling drugs or pimping underage girls.

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.

Drug companies! we'll why didn't you say, among all the ethically sound white collar companies, why they're the best, yes sirree!!!

I was refering to people that work a real job, like not selling drugs or pimping underage girls.

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.
LOL. Your mom sells drugs too. Where's the superiority now? :p

To each their own. Even if it's narcissism.
I'm sorry, I'd like to add an addendum. Burn in hell for trying to segregate and compare people in this way. It's better than comparing people based on things such as race, but this truly is just...revolting.

http://members.rogers.com/dariuszalina/21-hitlermelon1.gif
... or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

... or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
I don't think so. And, as morally bankrupt as this may be, that got funnier every time it looped...

Well, in general, the capitalist culture which promotes and rewards work is better.
gee its easy to decide YOUR culture is better when you definition is (maybe) the ONE way that your culture is better than others

why not cultures that are rich in FAMILY?
how about cultures that are rich in the arts? music? athletics?
how about cultures that respect the earth?
how about cultures that value traditions that go back hundreds of years?

there are LOTS of measures by which your "im rich and youre not" culture is vastly inferior.

The superior culture is brewers or vintners yeast! Let's hear it for beer and wine! Damn those monks were carfty!

*pops the cork off a bottle of Chimay*
*glug-glug-glug*

yeah this thread is pretty sick.

But i thought this was funny

Drug companies! we'll why didn't you say, among all the ethically sound white collar companies, why they're the best, yes sirree!!!

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.

Isn't COO one of those positions that basically means, "Bastard who fires 50 people a week and outsources their jobs to India"?

yeah this thread is pretty sick.

But i thought this was funny

Thanks

kahta - you are taking the piss, aren't you?

If not, karma or life is going to kick you in the head really hard!

Whoh, the middle class has a culture? You've obviously never been to the suburbs.

"What is the superior culture"

Obviously not whatever culture taught you English. Money doesn't breed culture, intelligence and creativity breeds culture. I define culture as containing all intellectual avenues of expression, and thus it can be any one of the socio-economic groups you mention..Culture transcends socio-economic conditions.

note: Eminem is not the modern Shakespeare.

You guys just wait, DA will come here in a while. Then you will see a lunatic in action. This thread is pointless and boring. I believe the only thing the middle/upper class white culture is, is vain. They believe that they are the best and everyone looks up to them. Sorry Kahta and DA, you are wrong. Very wrong, as it happens. I would rather be living my current, very Jewish life, then your upper class white life. I'd rather work hard, and not blame everyone else for my problems.

LOL @ "Urban poor black/whites/hispanics" being one culture

I have to write about this tomorrow in my article



worst poll ever

worst poll everYup, economic class doesn't really count for culture.

Yup, economic class doesn't really count for culture.
excellent summary: economic class...
nothing to do with culture

excellent summary: economic class...
nothing to do with culture
Ahh, the return of the silly threads. I'm surprised no-one has made a thread with an imaginative and witty title, similar to this but not quite the same...

*goes off to make said thread*

Propionibacter shermanii ... can't make Swiss cheese without it!

Isn't COO one of those positions that basically means, "Bastard who fires 50 people a week and outsources their jobs to India"?

No, it means Chief Operating Officer. Its the second in command in the company. My dad told me he would never work somewhere that takes part in outsourcing, like my stepmoms job.

gee its easy to decide YOUR culture is better when you definition is (maybe) the ONE way that your culture is better than others

why not cultures that are rich in FAMILY?
how about cultures that are rich in the arts? music? athletics?
how about cultures that respect the earth?
how about cultures that value traditions that go back hundreds of years?

there are LOTS of measures by which your "im rich and youre not" culture is vastly inferior.

The white middle/upper middle class is rich in family, all of my relatives are at least 150 miles away and I see them almost every month.

My house is liberally decorated with art, and there is always music playing.

We recycle most stuff at my house.

You mean like following the 10 comandments? I've never been to church but I can honestly say I've never broken any of them exept the lying one.

LOL. Your mom sells drugs too. Where's the superiority now? :p


She sells them for a company, which then improves peoples lives. Last time I checked, crack and heroin didn't improve anyone's life.

Drug companies! we'll why didn't you say, among all the ethically sound white collar companies, why they're the best, yes sirree!!!


I never said they were the best. But both my parents are registered Democrats, and they always vote Democratic, so that counters out their job.

Health data management isnt morally wrong anyways. The company my dad works for manages the data by the way of, say you're in a car crash, you passed out and your'e sent to the hospital so that the doctors can see whats wrong. First the doctors are going to see what medicines you are on, and any medical conditions, to prevent a major fuckup. Thats where my dad's work comes in. The doctor enters a request for your file, in a computer, which then contacts your health insurance company, and then retreives the file, thus preventing a health problem, such as an allergy to a certian drug, from becoming fatal.

The white middle/upper middle class is rich in family, all of my relatives are at least 150 miles away and I see them almost every month.

My house is liberally decorated with art, and there is always music playing.

We recycle most stuff at my house.

You mean like following the 10 comandments? I've never been to church but I can honestly say I've never broken any of them exept the lying one.


Rubbish, you don't even know what the commandments are.

The white middle/upper middle class is rich in family, all of my relatives are at least 150 miles away and I see them almost every month.

My house is liberally decorated with art, and there is always music playing.

We recycle most stuff at my house.

You mean like following the 10 comandments? I've never been to church but I can honestly say I've never broken any of them exept the lying one.
no kahta i didnt mean any of those things. you have NO Idea what culture really is.

but honestly, i'm not suggesting that your "culture" doesnt have any of those things, im suggesting that if you use those things as a measure, your "culture" is not superior. not by a long shot.

My house is liberally decorated with art, and there is always music playing.

I doubt any of it was made by rich white capitalists.

Anyone who upholds the work ethic as the foremost way of life, is intrinsicly incapable of producing art.

She sells them for a company, which then improves peoples lives.

Like Vioxx? ;)

Like Vioxx? ;)


She used to sell that when it first came out, but then she left the company, got married, got divorced, and got hired by another company.

I doubt any of it was made by rich white capitalists.

Anyone who upholds the work ethic as the foremost way of life, is intrinsicly incapable of producing art.

Then thats probobly why I suck at art.

It was made by white capitalists.

I think that this poll doesn't really address different cultures so much as subsects of the overall western culture, typically associated with central adn western european, as well as americans.

you are not talking about cultures but social classes. This has nothing to do with culture. This thread stinks.

I don't know how I can really vote, since none of the choices are really cultures, but just different groups of people living in American (I assume) culture. While pride in being black or hispanic is a culture, it has nothing to do with Socioeconomic status. If you're trying to ask which is the superior race, just say so. (Just to clarify, my answer would be none of them).

OK seeing as you actually seem to be as stupid as your question implies you have my sympathy. Poor lil' Kahta in her morally poor-to-bankrupt life with mummy and daddy both working in an industry that kills and disables more people than illegal drugs do and thus unable to direct her to a less superficial attitude and lifestyle. It must be so hard to suffer through an existence where the only thing you can think to make yourself feel better is that you are "superior" to other economic classes in your own culture and where you are so insipid that you can't even realise the fact that all of the "cultures" that you listed are, in fact, just aspects of the culture in which you live. Poor, poor kahta, with her lack of education (which includes more than schooling, so don't give me that "I go to a good school" crap) which she makes so blatantly obvious with every character she types. Poor kahta, who is obviously very young, at least mentally and hasn't had to deal with much in the line of critical thought and empathy.

One day, if you're lucky, you might realise that there is more to culture than canned music and reproductions of paintings in an empty house....

You might even learn that there are other countries one day, too!!

This better be a spoof thread

none are superior in my mind, but i prefer anything urban for myself

Ok, here's the thing. Although culture is not completely attached to economic class, the two are hardly independant. For example, an aesthetic/intellectual culture is less likely to develop or survive among poor rural people, while cultures valuing self sufficiency are rarer in, say, upper-class urban contexts, due to the specialization such an environment encourages. Still, the correlations between class and culture remain vague enough to make this a tricky question.

I chose Rural Poor, because they seem to be the most resilient, and that seemed to be best criteria for "superior" given the broad nature of the question. For those who might wonder, I am in no way poor or rural myself.

Maddox is superior to all your countries! :D

But I respect these peoples most. http://www.postworldindustries.com/

OK seeing as you actually seem to be as stupid as your question implies you have my sympathy. Poor lil' Kahta in her morally poor-to-bankrupt life with mummy and daddy both working in an industry that kills and disables more people than illegal drugs do and thus unable to direct her to a less superficial attitude and lifestyle. It must be so hard to suffer through an existence where the only thing you can think to make yourself feel better is that you are "superior" to other economic classes in your own culture and where you are so insipid that you can't even realise the fact that all of the "cultures" that you listed are, in fact, just aspects of the culture in which you live. Poor, poor kahta, with her lack of education (which includes more than schooling, so don't give me that "I go to a good school" crap) which she makes so blatantly obvious with every character she types. Poor kahta, who is obviously very young, at least mentally and hasn't had to deal with much in the line of critical thought and empathy.

One day, if you're lucky, you might realise that there is more to culture than canned music and reproductions of paintings in an empty house....

You might even learn that there are other countries one day, too!!

:upyours:

never mind, I calmed down

modlock please to prevent more flaming

I think lock requests are generally supposed to be made in the Moderation forum. You might try asking there. :)

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OK seeing as you actually seem to be as stupid as your question implies you have my sympathy. Poor lil' Kahta in her morally poor-to-bankrupt life with mummy and daddy both working in an industry that kills and disables more people than illegal drugs do and thus unable to direct her to a less superficial attitude and lifestyle. It must be so hard to suffer through an existence where the only thing you can think to make yourself feel better is that you are "superior" to other economic classes in your own culture and where you are so insipid that you can't even realise the fact that all of the "cultures" that you listed are, in fact, just aspects of the culture in which you live. Poor, poor kahta, with her lack of education (which includes more than schooling, so don't give me that "I go to a good school" crap) which she makes so blatantly obvious with every character she types. Poor kahta, who is obviously very young, at least mentally and hasn't had to deal with much in the line of critical thought and empathy.

One day, if you're lucky, you might realise that there is more to culture than canned music and reproductions of paintings in an empty house....

You might even learn that there are other countries one day, too!!

Ok, first of all, I'm a guy. Secondly, how do I have a morally bankrupt life? Because I correctly believe that my culture is better?

Thirdly, if you were able to read properly, which you've made clear that you can't read. My mom does what she does because she wants to be able to put food on the table. She majored in art history in college, so its obvious you're wrong on several other points as well....

Anyways, you seem to think that black music, like rap music, is part of my culture, which it is not. You can't back up your flawed logic, so you, like many other idiots in this world, launch personal attacks against my family, and myself who have nothing to do with me. All you've managed to do, is be unable to debate with my logic, because you're immature and can't stand people with ideals different than your own. Typical bleeding heart liberal.
Black music, such as rap degrades women, promotes violence, drug use, and other unwanted, but accepted things in other parts of this world, such as in England, where race mixing is common, and the collapse of the rest of europe is clearly imminent. I want in no way to be linked to the black music which promotes killing figures of authority, cops, or smart whites, who are regularly attacked by black thugs who like you, cannot debate, so they resort to personal attacks or violence. Blacks have been free for almost 150 years, and they haven't been able to match whites in any way. Even with special treatment, most of them remain in the ghetto, or in prison.

Ok, first of all, I'm a guy. Secondly, how do I have a morally bankrupt life? Because I correctly believe that my culture is better?

Thirdly, if you were able to read properly, which you've made clear that you can't read. My mom does what she does because she wants to be able to put food on the table. She majored in art history in college, so its obvious you're wrong on several other points as well....

Anyways, you seem to think that black music, like rap music, is part of my culture, which it is not. You can't back up your flawed logic, so you, like many other idiots in this world, launch personal attacks against my family, and myself who have nothing to do with me. All you've managed to do, is be unable to debate with my logic, because you're immature and can't stand people with ideals different than your own. Typical bleeding heart liberal.
Black music, such as rap degrades women, promotes violence, drug use, and other unwanted, but accepted things in other parts of this world, such as in England, where race mixing is common, and the collapse of the rest of europe is clearly imminent. I want in no way to be linked to the black music which promotes killing figures of authority, cops, or smart whites, who are regularly attacked by black thugs who like you, cannot debate, so they resort to personal attacks or violence. Blacks have been free for almost 150 years, and they haven't been able to match whites in any way. Even with special treatment, most of them remain in the ghetto, or in prison.


OPEN YOUR EYES FOR GOD'S SAKE

race mixing?? RACE MIXING is going to cause the collapse of britain and the rest of europe??

NO kahta, most black people are NOT in the ghetto or in prison.

you seem to be living in some kind of upper middle class bubble that has no relation to reality. there is more to life than MONEY. there is more to life than THINGS.

open your eyes. look at the world around you. you are missing SO much!

Thermophilic lactic acid bacteria. No doubt about it. They make the best yogurt cultures.

Ok, first of all, I'm a guy. Secondly, how do I have a morally bankrupt life? Because I correctly believe that my culture is better?

Your belief that your culture is better cannot be "correct" in the sense that it is factual. There are various cultures with varying characteristics, which makes them *different* from one another. Cultures are intrinsically *different*, that's a fact. Your belief that your culture is better simply means that the group you identify with has characteristics that you prefer over the characteristics of other groups.

Not to be too obvious Kahata, but you know there are wealthy blacks, right? Or do you simply believe that they are part of "white" culture?

Thermophilic lactic acid bacteria. No doubt about it. They make the best yogurt cultures.


I think this thread descriminates against cultures created by Thermophilic lactic acid bacteria.

Bacteria-phobes.

Ok, first of all, I'm a guy. Secondly, how do I have a morally bankrupt life? Because I correctly believe that my culture is better?

Are you sure you are not a descendant of Hitler? He would be so proud.

Are you sure you are not a descendant of Hitler? He would be so proud.


I'm 1/2 Scottish, 1/4 Polish, and 1/4 Latvian. Hitler was from Austria, same type of weather climate, different place.

OPEN YOUR EYES FOR GOD'S SAKE

race mixing?? RACE MIXING is going to cause the collapse of britain and the rest of europe??

NO kahta, most black people are NOT in the ghetto or in prison.

you seem to be living in some kind of upper middle class bubble that has no relation to reality. there is more to life than MONEY. there is more to life than THINGS.

open your eyes. look at the world around you. you are missing SO much!


Read Gobineau, race-mixing can and race-mixing will cause the collapse of England. Just as when the white Egyptians mixed with Sudanese and Ethiopian slaves, their civilization crumbled, when the Romans let non-Romans, various barbarians into their land, it fell apart, civilizations collapse when the founding racial group falls from dominance.

Rome, Greece, Egypt, India (Aryans in India), Ancient China (Asiatic yet the torch of civilization carried to them by Aryans from India), Aryan Persia, much of Southern America

OPEN YOUR EYES FOR GOD'S SAKE

race mixing?? RACE MIXING is going to cause the collapse of britain and the rest of europe??

NO kahta, most black people are NOT in the ghetto or in prison.

you seem to be living in some kind of upper middle class bubble that has no relation to reality. there is more to life than MONEY. there is more to life than THINGS.

open your eyes. look at the world around you. you are missing SO much!

ok then, why has crime gone up so much in england?

Then where do most black people live? I haven't seen any in the neighborhood my dad lives in, same with my mom's. There are 4 of them in my school of 750 people. The 3 guys constantly are looking for a girl to fuck, and all party constantly.

I live in some kind of real world, the way things ought to be. I don't know about you.

ok then, why has crime gone up so much in england?

Then where do most black people live? I haven't seen any in the neighborhood my dad lives in, same with my mom's. There are 4 of them in my school of 750 people. The 3 guys constantly are looking for a girl to fuck, and all party constantly.

I live in some kind of real world, the way things ought to be. I don't know about you.

You live in Gardner, Mass, kid. That's hardly the "real world".

You live in Gardner, Mass, kid. That's hardly the "real world".

I've lived here for 3 months, retard.

I've lived here for 3 months, retard.

Yeah? And where did you live before that?

I said the white middle class thing, but its the same with blacks, I just think Middle class in general, they have highest standards, they do most for the econemy, they make much better sitcoms, but I dont think anyone should be raised at a higher rate as anyone els.

Yeah? And where did you live before that?

Westminster.

And, since you live in Boston, I assume you don't live in the "real world" unless you live in the ghetto of Dorchester or Roxbury, places that were white, and then went downhill, much like most places around NYC.

I said the white middle class thing, but its the same with blacks, I just think Middle class in general, they have highest standards, they do most for the econemy, they make much better sitcoms, but I dont think anyone should be raised at a higher rate as anyone els.

Economically, the blue states make most of this country's economic power.

Westminster.

And, since you live in Boston, I assume you don't live in the "real world" unless you live in the ghetto of Dorchester or Roxbury, places that were white, and then went downhill, much like most places around NYC.

I used to live in Gardner. And Princeton, and Sterling, and Shrewsbury, and Worcester, and Grafton. Except Worcester, they're all white-bread suburbs with absolutely no cultural variation whatsoever. You don't know what other cultures are like because you haven't lived within 30 minutes of one. The only basis for your opinions of other cultures is what you see on TV and other mediums.

Economically, the blue states make most of this country's economic power.

Ok, what the hell did that have to do with my post?

Ok, what the hell did that have to do with my post?

Proof that white middle class liberals are the best culture.

I used to live in Gardner. And Princeton, and Sterling, and Shrewsbury, and Worcester, and Grafton. Except Worcester, they're all white-bread suburbs with absolutely no cultural variation whatsoever. You don't know what other cultures are like because you haven't lived within 30 minutes of one. The only basis for your opinions of other cultures is what you see on TV and other mediums.

Although the guy whos post you quoted is a completely rascist piece of crap, he has one point, which is that black parts of town tend to go downhill of what was once white, in an area called Hamden CT, it used to be all Italian, and it was very strongly middle class, beautiful area, than as the houses got to be worse condition, the white/Italian people moved out, now it is black, and living conditions are much lower. Italians lived their in the 40s 50s, and their are still some Italians, such as 9/10 of my family, but their are no more gardens with tomato plants in front of what was once white/Italian houses, its kind of sad.

Proof that white middle class liberals are the best culture.

That's not proof at all, because towns like Dorchester and Roxbury, places you just said were less impressive culturally, voted blue as well.

Proof that white middle class liberals are the best culture.

Your prooving my point, unless you meant to write red states, than what the fuck are you talking about??

Although the guy whos post you quoted is a completely rascist piece of crap, he has one point, which is that black parts of town tend to go downhill of what was once white, in an area called Hamden CT, it used to be all Italian, and it was very strongly middle class, beautiful area, than as the houses got to be worse condition, the white/Italian people moved out, now it is black, and living conditions are much lower. Italians lived their in the 40s 50s, and their are still some Italians, such as 9/10 of my family, but their are no more gardens with tomato plants in front of what was once white/Italian houses, its kind of sad.

That may or may not be, but his only point was to attack where I currently live because I attacked where he lives. Don't think he was thinking of anything more meaningful than that.

Proof that white middle class liberals are the best culture.

Stupid, I voted White Middle class, I posted about it, and I am Democrat, so what the FUCK are you talking about.

I used to live in Gardner. And Princeton, and Sterling, and Shrewsbury, and Worcester, and Grafton. Except Worcester, they're all white-bread suburbs with absolutely no cultural variation whatsoever. You don't know what other cultures are like because you haven't lived within 30 minutes of one. The only basis for your opinions of other cultures is what you see on TV and other mediums.


Gardner is mostly white trash. I hate it. I've seen enough of other cultures from the blacks and wiggers walking from a wiggers house in my neighborhood, while drunk/stoned/whatever at 1130 at night. I thought they were in my yard lighting it up, so I was about to grab a weapon, but I saw them on the road. I've seen enough of the hispanic culture in Fitchburg, and enough of the black culture in Washington DC. Its basically losers with no real job driving a big SUV.

That may or may not be, but his only point was to attack where I currently live because I attacked where he lives. Don't think he was thinking of anything more meaningful than that.

heh, thats true.

Stupid, I voted White Middle class, I posted about it, and I am Democrat, so what the FUCK are you talking about.


Me too. I'm upper middle, and usually support democrats.

Maybe y'all in the East Coast are radically different from us here on the West Coast, but you're telling me that NOBODY listens to rap in the suburbs?

Please. Almost EVERYBODY (except for the classical music people) listened to Tupac, Snoop, the Wu Tang Clan and whatever other rappers are hot (Puffy in the late 90's, Biggie, Luda/Eminem/50 Cent/Lil Jon/etc.)

And don't give me any of that "ahaha west coast cultureless cesspool haha LA sux0rz frisco is for teh H0m0z!!!!" crap. So we're not full of old money snobs like Rhode Island. I still went to middle/high school with the intelligent elites, I just didn't go to a boarding school.

That may or may not be, but his only point was to attack where I currently live because I attacked where he lives. Don't think he was thinking of anything more meaningful than that.

My dad grew up in Newton and brookline, places that stayed white and are safe to walk in. The black neighborhoods in boston are the bad ones. Admit it.

Maybe y'all in the East Coast are radically different from us here on the West Coast, but you're telling me that NOBODY listens to rap in the suburbs?

Please. Almost EVERYBODY (except for the classical music people) listened to Tupac, Snoop, the Wu Tang Clan and whatever other rappers are hot (Puffy in the late 90's, Biggie, Luda/Eminem/50 Cent/Lil Jon/etc.)

And don't give me any of that "ahaha west coast cultureless cesspool haha LA sux0rz frisco is for teh H0m0z!!!!" crap. So we're not full of old money snobs like Rhode Island.

We're not saying that at all. Just Kahta.

And Connecticut is where all the old money snobs are, not Rhode Island. Rhode Island is mob country.

Maybe y'all in the East Coast are radically different from us here on the West Coast, but you're telling me that NOBODY listens to rap in the suburbs?

Please. Almost EVERYBODY (except for the classical music people) listened to Tupac, Snoop, the Wu Tang Clan and whatever other rappers are hot (Puffy in the late 90's, Biggie, Luda/Eminem/50 Cent/Lil Jon/etc.)

And don't give me any of that "ahaha west coast cultureless cesspool haha LA sux0rz frisco is for teh H0m0z!!!!" crap. So we're not full of old money snobs like Rhode Island.

I hate rap, I live in the suburbs, its about half/half in the East coast.

What pisses me off is that when people see a black person, he or she is immediately cool, no matter what, so no wonder they listen to rap, even though rap is the lowest most tasteless form of music, the people are so cool that the music must be good.

Ghettos have no sense of fashion, they were fucking fur coats, catch up with the times, its not the 1870s anymore! They glue diomonds to their teeth, jeez. I like any other music over rap.

Also, they always talk about being in "da brodahood!" And getting connected with their roots, so while half of their "peeps" in Africa are starving they spend all their money on glueing crap to their teeth, and drugs and prostetutes.

My dad grew up in Newton and brookline, places that stayed white and are safe to walk in. The black neighborhoods in boston are the bad ones. Admit it.

No, I won't admit it. Because you're wrong. You've never been here; you don't know what it's like. There aren't gangs of those durn negros waiting to jump us innocent white boys as we walk back from the latest classical literature reading.

I'm West coast, I'm not supposed to know Conneticut's the old money state. And I was addressing Khata, I guess I should have made that clearer.

Khata:
Have you ever tried walking through those "black parts of town" at night? I for one wouldn't be scared walking through Bayview-Hunter's Point or the Tenderloin at night ("ghetto" neighborhoods in San Francisco).

Maybe y'all in the East Coast are radically different from us here on the West Coast, but you're telling me that NOBODY listens to rap in the suburbs?

Please. Almost EVERYBODY (except for the classical music people) listened to Tupac, Snoop, the Wu Tang Clan and whatever other rappers are hot (Puffy in the late 90's, Biggie, Luda/Eminem/50 Cent/Lil Jon/etc.)

And don't give me any of that "ahaha west coast cultureless cesspool haha LA sux0rz frisco is for teh H0m0z!!!!" crap. So we're not full of old money snobs like Rhode Island.
Yeah they may call us cultureless snobs, liberal elitists, bad drivers, etc, but I don't see them having the 5th largest economy and most progressive state in the union. Plus we have The Terminator as governor, he's actually doing a pretty good job too.

Maybe y'all in the East Coast are radically different from us here on the West Coast, but you're telling me that NOBODY listens to rap in the suburbs?

Please. Almost EVERYBODY (except for the classical music people) listened to Tupac, Snoop, the Wu Tang Clan and whatever other rappers are hot (Puffy in the late 90's, Biggie, Luda/Eminem/50 Cent/Lil Jon/etc.)

And don't give me any of that "ahaha west coast cultureless cesspool haha LA sux0rz frisco is for teh H0m0z!!!!" crap. So we're not full of old money snobs like Rhode Island. I still went to middle/high school with the intelligent elites, I just didn't go to a boarding school.

And most of the people in the subrubs that listen to rap music think they can identify with the rappers because their dad drives a Navigator, and their mom has an Escalade.

I never bought a rap CD. I listen to the music of my race, rock. A lot of Rhode Island is middle class, the snobs live in southern New Hampshire.

Yeah they may call us cultureless snobs, liberal elitists, bad drivers, etc, but I don't see them having the 5th largest economy and most progressive state in the union. Plus we have The Terminator as governor, he's actually doing a pretty good job too.

We're from Massachusetts. We're not calling anyone "liberal elitists".

"music of my race: rock"
Guess who founded rock & roll music?

The blacks.

Guess who founded Jazz?

The blacks.

If you want to listen to "white music" listen to Beethoven or Mozart or Vivaldi.

And most of the people in the subrubs that listen to rap music think they can identify with the rappers because their dad drives a Navigator, and their mom has an Escalade.

I never bought a rap CD. I listen to the music of my race, rock. A lot of Rhode Island is middle class, the snobs live in southern New Hampshire.

Except rock and roll was stolen from black people.

Yeah they may call us cultureless snobs, liberal elitists, bad drivers, etc, but I don't see them having the 5th largest economy and most progressive state in the union. Plus we have The Terminator as governor, he's actually doing a pretty good job too.

The Terminator is a puppet of a global elite.

I'd call myself a liberal elitist.

Khata:
Have you ever tried walking through those "black parts of town" at night? I for one wouldn't be scared walking through Bayview-Hunter's Point or the Tenderloin at night ("ghetto" neighborhoods in San Francisco).

No, they'd probobly attack me for being white, wearing normal clothes AKA ones that arent 5 sizes too big, or any other reason a white is attacked.

"music of my race: rock"
Guess who founded rock & roll music?

The blacks.

Guess who founded Jazz?

The blacks.

If you want to listen to "white music" listen to Beethoven or Mozart or Vivaldi.

You're right, but Blacks pretty much made it than spitted it out, they have nothing to do with rock music after say about '55. Jazz your right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll - wikipeida entry about the history of Rock.

Also, are you saying you'll not listen to Hendrix because he's black?

No, I won't admit it. Because you're wrong. You've never been here; you don't know what it's like. There aren't gangs of those durn negros waiting to jump us innocent white boys as we walk back from the latest classical literature reading.

I hate classical literature, but if I was in Boston at night, I would carry a knife. There have been several racially motivated attacks by Asians against whites on the T and on busses.

And most of the people in the subrubs that listen to rap music think they can identify with the rappers because their dad drives a Navigator, and their mom has an Escalade.

I never bought a rap CD. I listen to the music of my race, rock. A lot of Rhode Island is middle class, the snobs live in southern New Hampshire.

i never would have thought to associate you with the aryans on this board. arent you kind of young to be such a mindless racist?

You're right, but Blacks pretty much made it than spitted it out, they have nothing to do with rock music after say about '55. Jazz your right.

Yeah. There were no great black guitarists around in the 70s or anything. All white people.

I hate classical literature, but if I was in Boston at night, I would carry a knife. There have been several racially motivated attacks by Asians against whites on the T and on busses.

You want to provide a source for that? A credible source? Because I ride the T all the time, and I don't get attacked randomly by anyone.

Have you even been in Boston at night? Or at all for that matter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll - wikipeida entry about the history of Rock.

Also, are you saying you'll not listen to Hendrix because he's black?

Im not saying I wont not listen to someone cause their black, hell I love Hendrix, Bob Marley (yeah I know hes reggea Im just saying) Im saying, Hendrix didnt start anything, he was just amazing, but he didnt originate the guitar solo, you get what Im saying.

No, they'd probobly attack me for being white, wearing normal clothes AKA ones that arent 5 sizes too big, or any other reason a white is attacked.
This just shows you how much you know. People are attacked because they're acting nervous, because they're acting like a victim. The school bully will attack the kid in the corner whimpering and doing nothing over the other kids. Or they may just be really pissed off at you. If you're attacked it's because you're either flaunting your wealth somehow, annoying them, or acting like you've got something to hide and protect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll - wikipeida entry about the history of Rock.

Also, are you saying you'll not listen to Hendrix because he's black?


Well, that credits Elvis with being the first rocker. Last time I checked, he was white.

I don't listen to Hendrix because his music sucks. Most of his songs were written when he was on drugs, and the quality is on par with pink floyd.

This just shows you how much you know. People are attacked because they're acting nervous, because they're acting like a victim. The school bully will attack the kid in the corner whimpering and doing nothing over the other kids. Or they may just be really pissed off at you. If you're attacked it's because you're either flaunting your wealth somehow, annoying them, or acting like you've got something to hide and protect.

That doesnt make the attacker innocent.

Well, that credits Elvis with being the first rocker. Last time I checked, he was white.

I don't listen to Hendrix because his music sucks. Most of his songs were written when he was on drugs, and the quality is on par with pink floyd.

What do you listen to, oh great paragon of rock and roll?

I don't listen to Hendrix because his music sucks.

Ok now its on.

"music of my race: rock"
Guess who founded rock & roll music?

The blacks.



I like classical music. Blacks didn't found Rock music. Even the wikipedia article says so. It tries to claim RB turned into rock music.

Well, that credits Elvis with being the first rocker. Last time I checked, he was white.

I don't listen to Hendrix because his music sucks. Most of his songs were written when he was on drugs, and the quality is on par with pink floyd.
OK, I refuse to talk with those who "like rock" but can't appreciate Hendrix.

Just as a parting shot, who do you listen to?

I hate classical literature, but if I was in Boston at night, I would carry a knife. There have been several racially motivated attacks by Asians against whites on the T and on busses.

Youre afraid of Asians??? They have small dicks, what can they possibly do? Just kidding, but seriously Asians arent that tough.

The article describes several who could be credited as the originators of rock, several of whom were black.

"On March 21, 1952 in Cleveland, Alan Freed produced the first rock and roll concert. The audience and the performers were mixed in race and the evening ended after one song in a near-riot as thousands of fans tried to get into the sold-out venue."
"It was two years later that the first major white rock star began recording. In 1954, Elvis Presley..."

Kramer's - you've never seen a buff Asian guy?
EDIT: minor emphasis change

i never would have thought to associate you with the aryans on this board. arent you kind of young to be such a mindless racist?

It depends how you want to define racist. I'm proud of my race, but I don't want to deport or kill anyone. I'm also proud of the ideals upon which this country was based on, until the NWO came into the picture.

Jimi Hendrix does not suck the man wrote and played incredible music, so what he did drugs woop dee doop dee doo you've never done drugs kahta, i find that hard to believe. as for whites being a superior culture thats a load of malarkey. I am sorry to admit i agree with you about the whole rap music thing but i do enjoy hip hop and there is a difference if you've ever listened to them. So kahta before you go making these big ole sweeping generalizations get out there into the real world and open your eyes and experience everything out there and realize there is no better anything only different.

You want to provide a source for that? A credible source? Because I ride the T all the time, and I don't get attacked randomly by anyone.

Have you even been in Boston at night? Or at all for that matter?

Boston globe, last spring, there was a brawl with at least 50 people, blacks and asians, racial tensions, one kid was killed. A black woman was stabbed by an asian teen, and her baby was killed. Walking in Boston on a field trip, a black asked me for money because I was wearing Oakley sunglasses.

I go to Boston for Red Sox games, but I park near the stadium. My grandmother lives in Brookline.

Youre afraid of Asians??? They have small dicks, what can they possibly do? Just kidding, but seriously Asians arent that tough.


Ever heard of the Yakuza?

Jimi Hendrix does not suck the man wrote and played incredible music, so what he did drugs woop dee doop dee doo you've never done drugs kahta, i find that hard to believe. as for whites being a superior culture thats a load of malarkey. I am sorry to admit i agree with you about the whole rap music thing but i do enjoy hip hop and there is a difference if you've ever listened to them. So kahta before you go making these big ole sweeping generalizations get out there into the real world and open your eyes and experience everything out there and realize there is no better anything only different.

*applauds*

OK, I refuse to talk with those who "like rock" but can't appreciate Hendrix.

Just as a parting shot, who do you listen to?

Saliva
Papa Roach
Green Day
Breaking Benjamin

Just to name a few...

Boston globe, last spring, there was a brawl with at least 50 people, blacks and asians, racial tensions, one kid was killed. A black woman was stabbed by an asian teen, and her baby was killed. Walking in Boston on a field trip, a black asked me for money because I was wearing Oakley sunglasses.

I go to Boston for Red Sox games, but I park near the stadium. My grandmother lives in Brookline.
Maybe because Oakley's are expensive?

This just shows you how much you know. People are attacked because they're acting nervous, because they're acting like a victim. The school bully will attack the kid in the corner whimpering and doing nothing over the other kids. Or they may just be really pissed off at you. If you're attacked it's because you're either flaunting your wealth somehow, annoying them, or acting like you've got something to hide and protect.

Well, I can tell you're a thug, you blame the victim. I'm sure you think that all women are asking for rape or sexual harassment because of how they dress.

There is no 'superior' culture in my eyes. I get mad when I see government officials, who are no better than us, and oftentimes worse than us, telling us what to do. So of course I"m not going to take a fancy to any one culture being superior over another.

- Asylum Nova

Well, that credits Elvis with being the first rocker. Last time I checked, he was white.

I don't listen to Hendrix because his music sucks. Most of his songs were written when he was on drugs, and the quality is on par with pink floyd.

Now that's just blasphemy.

Saliva
Papa Roach
Green Day
Breaking Benjamin

Just to name a few...

Sweet son of heaven, who killed your taste?

It depends how you want to define racist. I'm proud of my race, but I don't want to deport or kill anyone. I'm also proud of the ideals upon which this country was based on, until the NWO came into the picture.

But you believe in the inferiority of others based on the superficiality of their skin color/country of origin. One needn't be violent to be racist.

Jimi Hendrix does not suck the man wrote and played incredible music, so what he did drugs woop dee doop dee doo you've never done drugs kahta, i find that hard to believe. as for whites being a superior culture thats a load of malarkey. I am sorry to admit i agree with you about the whole rap music thing but i do enjoy hip hop and there is a difference if you've ever listened to them. So kahta before you go making these big ole sweeping generalizations get out there into the real world and open your eyes and experience everything out there and realize there is no better anything only different.


I don't need to alter my reality, I like it the way it is.

I don't understand the difference between rap and hip hop. rappers talk about fucking teens. Hip hoppers like R. Kelly, really do it.

On your advice, you sound like my mom. I don't know if thats good or bad.

Boston globe, last spring, there was a brawl with at least 50 people, blacks and asians, racial tensions, one kid was killed. A black woman was stabbed by an asian teen, and her baby was killed. Walking in Boston on a field trip, a black asked me for money because I was wearing Oakley sunglasses.

I go to Boston for Red Sox games, but I park near the stadium. My grandmother lives in Brookline.

That's not "white people getting attacked by Asians on the T". And a black person asking you for money isn't an attack either. It's a homeless guy asking for money. It wasn't because you were wearing Oakleys; it was because you weren't homeless. White people ask you for money on the street too. Most of us aren't heartless bastards. We give them some change.

Maybe because Oakley's are expensive?

Maybe, but most people drive new cars, does that make them rich?

My dad makes at least $130,000 a year, most likley more, and he drives a 1996 Ford Explorer.

Kahta you need to get over this superiority kick, cause it's taking you down a dark, dark, path brother, and before you go off on the brother statement no i am not black. I spent 5 years of my life being a white supremicist skinhead. I spent time, energy, and even money hating people just because of their skin color, but you know something once i started getting to know people all they are is people, fallible, complex and most often just plain silly. But you should really take a long look at your life and think do i want to live with this much hate in my heart cause it will poison you.

I don't need to alter my reality, I like it the way it is.

I don't understand the difference between rap and hip hop. rappers talk about fucking teens. Hip hoppers like R. Kelly, really do it.

On your advice, you sound like my mom. I don't know if thats good or bad.

Ah, but you're only listening to crappy mainstream rap.

Kahta you need to get over this superiority kick, cause it's taking you down a dark, dark, path brother, and before you go off on the brother statement no i am not black. I spent 5 years of my life being a white supremicist skinhead. I spent time, energy, and even money hating people just because of their skin color, but you know something once i started getting to know people all they are is people, fallible, complex and most often just plain silly. But you should really take a long look at your life and think do i want to live with this much hate in my heart cause it will poison you.

I'm never going to go down the white supremacy path the way people think I am. I'm more venting than anything else here, but people attack what I say, and I'm forced to take positions that I don't like taking.

Sweet son of heaven, who killed your taste?



But you believe in the inferiority of others based on the superficiality of their skin color/country of origin. One needn't be violent to be racist.

No, I make generalizations.

That's not "white people getting attacked by Asians on the T". And a black person asking you for money isn't an attack either. It's a homeless guy asking for money. It wasn't because you were wearing Oakleys; it was because you weren't homeless. White people ask you for money on the street too. Most of us aren't heartless bastards. We give them some change.


I gave him money. Before he asked, he complimented my sunglasses and asked for some money.

I'm never going to go down the white supremacy path the way people think I am. I'm more venting than anything else here, but people attack what I say, and I'm forced to take positions that I don't like taking.
well the funny thing is how your stating your opinion is just the way alot of skinheads bring up their opinions, i'm just saying be careful i have friends doing life because they let the hate fester, and it caused them to slip just once, and bamm there doing time for a hate crime. and if you don't like taking the position then why take that position. i dislike rap, it just doesn't appeal to me and as for the r. kelly thing well that is an individual happenstance and should not be leveled against hip hop as a whole. But i salute you for at least taking a devil's advocate position at the very least just be careful.

I'm going to read before I go to bed, feel free to respond, and I'll respond to you.

Ok, first of all, I'm a guy. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought from your words and attitude that you were some sort of princess. Hang on, I'm right - you're a princess with a penis. OK - I'll refer to you as "he" from now on. Secondly, how do I have a morally bankrupt life?You demonstrate that with the rest of this post. Because I correctly believe that my culture is better?You still don't get the whole culture versus socio-eceonomic class thing, do you? But no, it's not that, it's the general lack of empathy and understanding that you've displayed here that makes me think that.

Thirdly, if you were able to read properly, which you've made clear that you can't read. I can't read things like that. Well, I can read them but they make no sense. My mom does what she does because she wants to be able to put food on the table. She majored in art history in college, so its obvious you're wrong on several other points as well....What does her art history degree have to do with choosing to work for a drug company? I have no problem with your mother working. Where she works is her choice. All I said was that there are more deaths and injuries caused by legal drugs than illegal drugs.
Anyways, you seem to think that black music, like rap music, is part of my culture, which it is not.And I mentioned this where, exactly? You have just shown everyone that your imagination takes over when you're feeling attacked.You can't back up your flawed logic, so you, like many other idiots in this world, launch personal attacks against my family, and myself who have nothing to do with me. You and your family have nothing to do with you? :D I don't blame them. All you've managed to do, is be unable to debate with my logic, because you're immature and can't stand people with ideals different than your own. I have not debated with logic because you have not postulated a logical position. You have posted a series of emotive statements and not backed them up with any logic of your own. I thought this was just a fun bloodletting thread and have posted in that vein.* Typical bleeding heart liberal.Funny you should call me that because most of my friends think I'm a bit harsh about such things. But I suppose you have to get that aggression out somehow and it seems that "liberal" is the dirtiest insult you can come up with, so go for it. :D
Black music, such as rap degrades women, promotes violence, drug use, and other unwanted, but accepted things in other parts of this world, such as in England, where race mixing is common, and the collapse of the rest of europe is clearly imminent.So Louis Armstrong, BB King, Aretha Franklin, The Supremes, Billy Holiday, Adele Addison, Roland Hayes and a list that could take up pages are all about degrading women, violence and drug taking, are they? You just demonstrated the shallowness of your viewpoint right there. I want in no way to be linked to the black music which promotes killing figures of authority, cops, or smart whites, who are regularly attacked by black thugs who like you, cannot debate, so they resort to personal attacks or violence. But you do want to be linked to the white music that advocates violence, killing figures of authority and hate? OK, then.No one "race" (jeez I hate that term) has a monopoly on hateful music is my point in case you didn't get it. There are thoughtless stereotypists in every culture. Blacks have been free for almost 150 years, and they haven't been able to match whites in any way. Even with special treatment, most of them remain in the ghetto, or in prison.Again you are demonstrating a definite lack of perspective and an incredibly narrow world view. Perhaps this is the case where you live, but it is not the case everywhere.

Yes, I have criticised you personally because I find your viewpoint repugnant. It's one of the joys of the internet that discussions (term loosely used here ;) ) like this can be had. If you can't take the criticism then you shouldn't post such inflammatory threads....





*Yes, it was intentional ;)

I gave him money. Before he asked, he complimented my sunglasses and asked for some money.

He complimented your sunglasses so you might be more willing to give him some change.

I was refering to people that work a real job, like not selling drugs or pimping underage girls.

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.
Some may argue your father is a pimp and your mother a murderer, your dad sells other people and your mother prohibits (indirectly) poor people from getting treatment.

There IS no superior culture, you douchebag.

Eh, I've been reading back, and I'd like some clarification from you Kahta if you please.

Firstly, you believe racial mixing through relationships to be wrong?
You base your opnions of culture on socio-economics why?
You're how fluent in written and spoken English? (Don't even get me started on the erroros upon errors you keep making)
People of a different skin color, economic background, or interests are less intelligent and more viloently inclined then you because you're upper-middle class and white?

Really, you sound racist.

And some points: The part about people attacking victims who act nervous is true, they choose their victims because they act nervous and make easy targets in a mental sanse. Saying that that fact blames the victim is stupid, because it doesn't blame the victim, it explains the thinking.
As for these Black/Hispanic/Asian ghetto crap, I'm white, middle class, and I've walked through the Ghetto's of Ft.Lauderdale every time I go to visit family down there. I've walked down dark streets alone, and unarmed, and not so much as gotten an odd look from anyone. I think some of you need to actually go to these places before you make stupid generalizations from TV.
And finnally, the most intelligent people I know are Hispanic, Black, Asian, and Arabs. I know people who listen to "ganster rap" who can do multi-variable calculus in their heads and know more about science and chemestry then I do.
My Hispanic girlfreind happens to be an amazing writer, her avrage throughout school was over 95%, in all Honors courses. This doesn't sound like a lack of intelligence.
Also, define "culture". Many of you here seem not to have much of a definitive idea of what it is.

Final note, there is only one race, the human race. Skin colors are caused by pigmints only, and the minor physical differences are just adaptations to certian climates and regions.

Eh, I've been reading back, and I'd like some clarification from you Kahta if you please.

Firstly, you believe racial mixing through relationships to be wrong?
You base your opnions of culture on socio-economics why?
You're how fluent in written and spoken English? (Don't even get me started on the erroros upon errors you keep making)
People of a different skin color, economic background, or interests are less intelligent and more viloently inclined then you because you're upper-middle class and white?

Really, you sound racist.

And some points: The part about people attacking victims who act nervous is true, they choose their victims because they act nervous and make easy targets in a mental sanse. Saying that that fact blames the victim is stupid, because it doesn't blame the victim, it explains the thinking.
As for these Black/Hispanic/Asian ghetto crap, I'm white, middle class, and I've walked through the Ghetto's of Ft.Lauderdale every time I go to visit family down there. I've walked down dark streets alone, and unarmed, and not so much as gotten an odd look from anyone. I think some of you need to actually go to these places before you make stupid generalizations from TV.
And finnally, the most intelligent people I know are Hispanic, Black, Asian, and Arabs. I know people who listen to "ganster rap" who can do multi-variable calculus in their heads and know more about science and chemestry then I do.
My Hispanic girlfreind happens to be an amazing writer, her avrage throughout school was over 95%, in all Honors courses. This doesn't sound like a lack of intelligence.
Also, define "culture". Many of you here seem not to have much of a definitive idea of what it is.

Final note, there is only one race, the human race. Skin colors are caused by pigmints only, and the minor physical differences are just adaptations to certian climates and regions.


Could you repeat all of that, except without the massive number of errors, improper spellings, and other mistakes you made. Or perhaps you think that the right way to spell "Average" is "avrage" in which case, you've more than proven Kahta's point.

Some may argue your father is a pimp and your mother a murderer, your dad sells other people and your mother prohibits (indirectly) poor people from getting treatment.

Due to the fact I'd be warned for flaming, I'm not going to respond.

There IS no superior culture, you douchebag.


Wow, your arguments just blow me away, I could never make an serious intelligent rebuttal against this logic. Childish name calling, an admission of defeat.

What culture do you think is superior, and why?

what a stupid thread...

I don't get it. these aren't cultures, they're social and racial strata within a culture. And if it's the one I think it is, then its not a very good culture either.

there is no superior culture. if u think middle class and upper class whites are superior because u think we work harder or something your wrong. im upper middle class only because my family is rich through inheritence though they do work really hard. but so do farmers and poorer people.

what a stupid thread...
i concord (is that how u spell it?)

Damnit, this is disgusting. There is no superior culture, just different ones. One may prefer a certain culture over another, but saying that it's superior just makes we want to vomit. How can anyone actually say that there is a superior culture? I cannot believe you people...
I fully agree with you, Gnostikos

i concord (is that how u spell it?)If you're talking about travelling faster than the speed of sound on a commercial airline then that is close to the spelling. If, however, you want to agree the word is concur ;)

There IS no superior culture, you douchebag.

Please at least try and be civilised on this forum.

My personal beliefs and theoretically: no superior group.
In truth: White Upper/Middle Class.

I praise your use of the correct terminology of culture. There is only one race on htis planet and that is the human race. Until non-humans can be proven able to read, I don't consider them a race.

My personal beliefs and theoretically: no superior group.
In truth: White Upper/Middle Class.

I praise your use of the correct terminology of culture. There is only one race on htis planet and that is the human race. Until non-humans can be proven able to read, I don't consider them a race.

That is not the correct use of the word culture. His categories are all based on class, not culture. Culture would be things such as American culture, Japanese culture, Ancient Roman culture, etc. etc. etc.

Superior cultures... I have given this some thought, thinking more about different countries than groups in the USA, and have to say there are some absolute metrics, such as innovation, prosperity, military power, adaptability, opportunity, flexibility, and vitality/energy, but "freedom" is a pretty good way to sum them all up. Some parts of the world are utter and absolute failures with nobody but themselves to blame, and some are brilliant successes in the face of adversity. I guess some of the features of successful cultures are:

- high value placed on knowledge and education
- entrepreneurial
- equality of women
- tolerance towards ethnic and religious minorities
- social mobility
- flexible/non-dogmatic/empirical-oriented ("if we do this, what would be the consequences" rather than "the great poobah says to do this")
- "melting pot"/willing to borrow ideas from other cultures
- strong emphasis on individual freedom
- strong emphasis on broad-based government
- respect for the rule of law
- respect for contracts and agreements
- despise corruption and cheating

I think it is fair to say if you somehow swapped the population of USA with e.g. Congo but left all the buildings and everything else in place, in a decade each population would have recreated the kind of country they came from.

The USA is in many ways the paragon (although we could be even better). Europe is pretty good, except for several things... they are not especially entrepreneurial, they have relatively little social mobility, a lot of corruption (both business and government) and lately with the EU they are departing from the idea of "government of the people" (since the EU bureaucrats are largely unelected). Syria, North Korea, Bangladesh and Somalia are examples of utter failure.

We all serve our part in society, in the community, and culturally.

Superior cultures... I have given this some thought, thinking more about different countries than groups in the USA, and have to say there are some absolute metrics, such as innovation, prosperity, military power, adaptability, opportunity, flexibility, and vitality/energy, but "freedom" is a pretty good way to sum them all up. Some parts of the world are utter and absolute failures with nobody but themselves to blame, and some are brilliant successes in the face of adversity. I guess some of the features of successful cultures are:

- high value placed on knowledge and education
- entrepreneurial
- equality of women
- tolerance towards ethnic and religious minorities
- social mobility
- flexible/non-dogmatic/empirical-oriented ("if we do this, what would be the consequences" rather than "the great poobah says to do this")
- "melting pot"/willing to borrow ideas from other cultures
- strong emphasis on individual freedom
- strong emphasis on broad-based government
- respect for the rule of law
- respect for contracts and agreements
- despise corruption and cheating

I think it is fair to say if you somehow swapped the population of USA with e.g. Congo but left all the buildings and everything else in place, in a decade each population would have recreated the kind of country they came from.

The USA is in many ways the paragon (although we could be even better). Europe is pretty good, except for several things... they are not especially entrepreneurial, they have relatively little social mobility, a lot of corruption (both business and government) and lately with the EU they are departing from the idea of "government of the people" (since the EU bureaucrats are largely unelected). Syria, North Korea, Bangladesh and Somalia are examples of utter failure.


Just look what Tolerance has gotten the Netherlands, Muslims move in and are intolerant of non-muslims, woman, homosexuals, etc. Yet the Dutch beat themselves up over it and claim, "We need to teach these muslims better." No, they're learned all they'll ever learn from their Imams and Mullahs already.

As for so-called equality of women, does this mean get women to act like men, desex them from their real gender (women) turn them into whores and destroy the family as a viable institution. Rape is an epidemic in the world today. Such was not always the case, but now men and women are so messed up, the world is an awful place.

I think it is upper middle class/middle class white, because that is the productive group that makes the most money, has the least social problems, and works the hardest.
I would say the middle class, but it's not about making more money. It's because they, along with the working class to a large degree, are the backbone and the foundation of any country.

The upper classes are usually the decadent and exploitative ones BECAUSE of money. I don't see how money could cause someone to have more value. :confused:

Just look what Tolerance has gotten the Netherlands, Muslims move in and are intolerant of non-muslims, woman, homosexuals, etc. Yet the Dutch beat themselves up over it and claim, "We need to teach these muslims better." No, they're learned all they'll ever learn from their Imams and Mullahs already.

As for so-called equality of women, does this mean get women to act like men, desex them from their real gender (women) turn them into whores and destroy the family as a viable institution. Rape is an epidemic in the world today. Such was not always the case, but now men and women are so messed up, the world is an awful place.

You know, I swore I wouldn't even talk to you in fear of hurting my brain, but here goes...

Rape has not gone up. Awareness has.

The superior culture is the one that observed us from space and decided to get the hell out of our solar system for fear of being fucked up by our planet.

I'll second this post

Just look what Tolerance has gotten the Netherlands, Muslims move in and are intolerant of non-muslims, woman, homosexuals, etc. Yet the Dutch beat themselves up over it and claim, "We need to teach these muslims better." No, they're learned all they'll ever learn from their Imams and Mullahs already.

Well, obviously tolerance requires being highly intolerant of intolerance... which may seem like a paradox but really isn't, it's part of the whole rule-of-law idea. If a Muslim beats his wife because that is the way things are done where he comes from, you should damn well hit him with the full force of the law, and perhaps more, just so others will understand that is *not ok*. And yeah, that is indeed a way to teach them better, when words arent't working.

As an aside, some prominent Muslims in the Netherlands have actually said in public that it's ok to kill people who speak out against them... legally those guys should be in jail for incitement, but they are still walking around free. The reason we are seeing some anti-Muslim violence there is because the government is not perceived as doing anything to deal with the problem.

As for so-called equality of women, does this mean get women to act like men, desex them from their real gender (women) turn them into whores and destroy the family as a viable institution. Rape is an epidemic in the world today. Such was not always the case, but now men and women are so messed up, the world is an awful place.

Well that's some BS (desex? whores? whatever). Obviously by equality I mean equality of opportunity... for example in the army, women and men should have to pass the exact same physical tests etc, but any that do pass should be treated the same including being in combat units if they want. The result will be a mostly male army but that's ok since the criteria are applied equally. Ditto firefighters and cops, or nurses and nannies on the other side.

I think I don't need to say that any society in which women can't own property or have to follow a restrictive dress code or are regularly beaten at home has some serious problems?

Obviously the rich ;)

I was refering to people that work a real job, like not selling drugs or pimping underage girls.

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.

So how does that let you vote against the working class white/black option? By definition, they work real jobs, if lower paying ones.

If you'd specified different places in the world, I might have been able to express an opinion, but this is fucking ridiculous.

EDIT: I wonder just how many people are taking the piss on this thread...?

bacterial culture

(i don't know if anyone's already said that, but i haven't bothered to read the thread)

I don't think ant of the options count as a culture.

I don't think ant of the options count as a culture.That's not true - culture, in its broadest sense, is "the way we do things 'round here". So any community has a culture, and a way of doing things. And let's face it, sad to say though it is, these are independent communities.

EDIT: Having said that, I do think "ant" culture would have been a good one.

That's not true - culture, in its broadest sense, is "the way we do things 'round here". So any community has a culture, and a way of doing things. And let's face it, sad to say though it is, these are independent communities.

EDIT: Having said that, I do think "ant" culture would have been a good one.
I suppose in that sense we can agree they are cultures. But for me a culture needs a little more to it that simpy 'we do things this was just to be different from the way they do it'. The reasons why things are done and the traditions behind them strengthen and enrich a culture. Creating a culture to seperate yourself from others is a sad turn of events.

I suppose in that sense we can agree they are cultures. But for me a culture needs a little more to it that simpy 'we do things this was just to be different from the way they do it'. The reasons why things are done and the traditions behind them strengthen and enrich a culture. Creating a culture to seperate yourself from others is a sad turn of events.
Oh no, I never meant that they decided to be like that. They never deliberately "created" their culture - and the "separation" of communities was never wholly deliberate. It's the same as the culture within an organisation - the culture arises out of habit of interacting with the same people every day. Obviously these cultures don't vary as widely from each other as, say, English and Tanzanian culture, but there are still differences.

There are many good cultures. My favorite is the one for buttermilk. Yum-yum! A more important culture may be for penicillin, but I am allergic to that. Therefore, I am voting for buttermilk.

There are many good cultures. My favorite is the one for buttermilk. Yum-yum! A more important culture may be for penicillin, but I am allergic to that. Therefore, I am voting for buttermilk.Um... Is there a culture used for buttermilk? I thought it was just the dregs left after the butter was churned out of cream? At least it used to be... :confused: Not to be overly picky, now I'm actually wondering :D

Anyway, my favourite culture is lactobacillus acidophillus. MMmmYummm :cool:

Of course, there is also tissue culture: the process or technique of making body tissue grow in a culture medium outside the organism; also : a culture of tissue (as epithelium), according to Webster's Online Dictionary.

Really though, in regard to churning milk into butter and the remnants and the like, buttermilk is my first choice on the best-to-worst scale. As for cultures in the societal sense, the buttermilk culture of eastern Wisconsin is unique.

Whoops! This is a thread about the question of one culture being superior to another. Oh my... I guess the Nazi spirit continues to spread. In regard to superiority of a culture, society, class, race and other factors, it is probably best for readers to remember that every human is equal. Given this fact, the combination of any number of humans to be placed into a category is equal to those in any other category. Since there is a choice for no culture being superior to any other, I am going to choose that. Any anthropologist who is not judgmental would also make that choice.

Whoops! This is a thread about the question of one culture being superior to another. Oh my... I guess the Nazi spirit continues to spread. In regard to superiority of a culture, society, class, race and other factors, it is probably best for readers to remember that every human is equal. Given this fact, the combination of any number of humans to be placed into a category is equal to those in any other category. Since there is a choice for no culture being superior to any other, I am going to choose that. Any anthropologist who is not judgmental would also make that choice.
No every human is unique, should be afforded the same rights and subsequent responsibilities but we are not equal. And no we should not be treated the same, I don't want the same treatment that a 80year old lady receives.
I'm being a pedant I know but hey that's what make me different.

Damnit, this is disgusting. There is no superior culture, just different ones. One may prefer a certain culture over another, but saying that it's superior just makes we want to vomit. How can anyone actually say that there is a superior culture? I cannot believe you people...
I would like to make it clear before I start that I am no way in support of Kahta, and have no wish whatsoever for what the following to be somehow interpreted as an endorsement of his bizarre views.

But: the attitude displayed by a number of people, and exemplified above by Gnostikos, is ridiculous. Why are some cultures not superior in some aspects, others inferior in others? No-one has thus-far offered any support for this point of view.

I would like to make it clear before I start that I am no way in support of Kahta, and have no wish whatsoever for what the following to be somehow interpreted as an endorsement of his bizarre views.

But: the attitude displayed by a number of people, and exemplified above by Gnostikos, is ridiculous. Why are some cultures not superior in some aspects, others inferior in others? No-one has thus-far offered any support for this point of view.
Superior is a subjective judgement. I think Newcastle Brown is a Superior Beer to Tetlys, that is not however a fact! Well...

Superior is a subjective judgement. I think Newcastle Brown is a Superior Beer to Tetlys, that is not however a fact! Well...
The fact that we are only able to make subjective judgements on an issue does not mean that there is not a correct answer out there...somewhere...

And almost all judgements made on this forum are subjective!!!! If we were to ban subjective judgement, we'd have to lock most of the threads ever opened. Hang on a minute....

Thanks for the thread Kahta, your retarded

;)

hope egocentricism works for you

AHEM.

Debate him civilly, or ignore him. Your choice.

I'm sorry, I'd like to add an addendum. Burn in hell for trying to segregate and compare people in this way. It's better than comparing people based on things such as race, but this truly is just...revolting.

Once more -- debate him civilly, or don't. Flaming is not allowed.

Wyeast #3267 Bordeaux

No, they'd probobly attack me for being white, wearing normal clothes AKA ones that arent 5 sizes too big, or any other reason a white is attacked.

LOL

I am a five foot nothing white woman, and I walked through the Tenderloin in San Francisco at night, unaccompanied, no problems. (My hotel was on Union Square and funny enough, the visitor's center is on the edge of the Tenderloin).

Could you repeat all of that, except without the massive number of errors, improper spellings, and other mistakes you made. Or perhaps you think that the right way to spell "Average" is "avrage" in which case, you've more than proven Kahta's point.

I was unaware that typographical errors were a measure of one's intelligence quotient.

Attack the argument, not the person, remember?

Wow, your arguments just blow me away, I could never make an serious intelligent rebuttal against this logic. Childish name calling, an admission of defeat.

Ah, the irony...

So, I went to Boston today, and walked the freedom trail, and didn't get shot, raped, or robbed. I saw some gang members on the subway though.

So, I went to Boston today, and walked the freedom trail, and didn't get shot, raped, or robbed. I saw some gang members on the subway though.

Wow. It's almost as if we're normal people here in the city.

Wow. It's almost as if we're normal people here in the city.

I saw 3 men that were in the mafia.

I saw 3 men that were in the mafia.

How do you know? Did you ask them?

How do you know? Did you ask them?

They were italian, so they MUST be in the mafia ;)

They were italian, so they MUST be in the mafia ;)

I realise that was meant to be funny, but were not all in the mafia, in fact in my whole Italian family, not one person is in the mafia, funny isnt it! And there like hundreds, I had an ancestor who was, than he was ordered to kill someone, so he ran away to America. Since than no Sopranos, just a normal family.

I realise that was meant to be funny, but were not all in the mafia, in fact in my whole Italian family, not one person is in the mafia, funny isnt it! And there like hundreds, I had an ancestor who was, than he was ordered to kill someone, so he ran away to America. Since than no Sopranos, just a normal family.

Actually, I was satirizing the fact that people are flinging inane generalities left and right, and threw one at them just to have fun with it.

I know all italians arn't mobsters, I'm not THEM :p

How do you know? Did you ask them?

There was a guy wearing a suit and swearing and threatening someone on his cellphone.

The other 2 guys were wearing suits. There was also a driveway with mafia style cars.

I was refering to people that work a real job, like not selling drugs or pimping underage girls.

An example would be my dad, he's the COO of a health data company, or my mom, she's a sales rep for the biggest legal drug company in the world.


I am sure the pimping is a 2 way business... i don't think there would be better markets for prostitution as your culture. but don't ask your dad! :eek:

i don't think there would be better markets for prostitution as your culture.

buyers, but not sellers

There was a guy wearing a suit and swearing and threatening someone on his cellphone.

The other 2 guys were wearing suits. There was also a driveway with mafia style cars.

Ah, they must've been the mafia. Because the mafia just hangs around in suits all day.

Ah, they must've been the mafia. Because the mafia just hangs around in suits all day.

On the Sopranos they do. :D :p

On the Sopranos they do. :D :p

You're the biggest moron ever. I'm Italian. I live in Boston. I wear suits occasionally, and sometimes I'm outside when I wear them. I own a cellphone, and occasionally I get into arguments when I'm on said cellphone, and sometimes those arguments occur while I'm wearing a suit. I'm in the mafia according to you.

You're the biggest moron ever. I'm Italian. I live in Boston. I wear suits occasionally, and sometimes I'm outside when I wear them. I own a cellphone, and occasionally I get into arguments when I'm on said cellphone, and sometimes those arguments occur while I'm wearing a suit. I'm in the mafia according to you.

Welcome to my ignore list.

I was unaware that typographical errors were a measure of one's intelligence quotient.
I was unaware that one's intelligence quotient was at all a significant number. IQ is one of the worst ideas ever. Howard Gardner's "theory" of multiple intelligence, not to mention that fact that intelligence is not quantifiable, makes those tests worthless in my eyes.

I was unaware that one's intelligence quotient was at all a significant number. IQ is one of the worst ideas ever. Howard Gardner's "theory" of multiple intelligence, not to mention that fact that intelligence is not quantifiable, makes those tests worthless in my eyes.
Oh, I don't know; as a rough approximation it seems to work quite well in most cases.

What's the difference between these cultures?

I like how the poll says "urban black/white/hispanics" and "rural black/white" yet the top choice is "upper middle class white"

Welcome to rascism.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Aww. Can't take criticism?

I like how the poll says "urban black/white/hispanics" and "rural black/white" yet the top choice is "upper middle class white"

Welcome to rascism.

Who says its racism? One culture has to be at the top, if they put rural poor black/whites at the top than you could say that is racist, its not rascist, its just someone needs to be at the top.

Who says its racism? One culture has to be at the top, if they put rural poor black/whites at the top than you could say that is racist, its not rascist, its just someone needs to be at the top.

Come on. You know damn well that it wasn't an accident Kahta arranged the list that way.

Who says its racism? One culture has to be at the top, if they put rural poor black/whites at the top than you could say that is racist, its not rascist, its just someone needs to be at the top.
Though this whole thing is encouraging prejudice and discrimination and bigotry.

Who says its racism? One culture has to be at the top, if they put rural poor black/whites at the top than you could say that is racist, its not rascist, its just someone needs to be at the top.
perhaps what he meant was

why isnt it
rural black/white/hispanic
urban black/white/hispanic
and
upper class black/white/hispanic
?

perhaps what he meant was

why isnt it
rural black/white/hispanic
urban black/white/hispanic
and
upper class black/white/hispanic
?
Probably because he just put them down as he thought of them. Maybe he did it in random order. Maybe he did it in the order he thought was superior to inferior. Why the hell does it matter?!? You're just being ridiculous if you start going into the order they're put in. It's because of overly sensitive people looking for an excuse to b*tch that we have such a problem with being politically correct.

The only superior culture is the culture of knowledge. And it is not only a neccesity for a society but for every individual.

Probably because he just put them down as he thought of them. Maybe he did it in random order. Maybe he did it in the order he thought was superior to inferior. Why the hell does it matter?!? You're just being ridiculous if you start going into the order they're put in. It's because of overly sensitive people looking for an excuse to b*tch that we have such a problem with being politically correct.
no youve missed my point
kahta seems to think that there are NO middleclass/upperclass blacks or hispanics.
its not the order they are in, its WHO is included in each group

no youve missed my point
kahta seems to think that there are NO middleclass/upperclass blacks or hispanics.
its not the order they are in, its WHO is included in each group
Oh. Well then, yeah, I guess that would be racist. I don't think he should have included race at all. I apologise, I should have paid closer attention.

Who says its racism? One culture has to be at the top, if they put rural poor black/whites at the top than you could say that is racist, its not rascist, its just someone needs to be at the top.

Why? Can you not accept people for what they are? :(

Oh. Well then, yeah, I guess that would be racist. I don't think he should have included race at all. I apologise, I should have paid closer attention.
im happy to be able to clarify it.
too bad i never noticed until someone else brought it up. sigh

That's not true - culture, in its broadest sense, is "the way we do things 'round here". So any community has a culture, and a way of doing things. And let's face it, sad to say though it is, these are independent communities.

I did not think what you said was correct, but it is. I have learned something today. :)

cul·ture
1. The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.
2. These patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population: Edwardian culture; Japanese culture; the culture of poverty.
3. These patterns, traits, and products considered with respect to a particular category, such as a field, subject, or mode of expression: religious culture in the Middle Ages; musical culture; oral culture.
4. The predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize the functioning of a group or organization.
(dictionary.com)

There was a guy wearing a suit and swearing and threatening someone on his cellphone.

The other 2 guys were wearing suits. There was also a driveway with mafia style cars.

On the subway?

On the subway?Don't worry about it. Kahta has a vivid imagination..... :D



:cool: Mafia smiley according to Kahta :eek:

To me there is no superior culture because there is good and bad things about each. to me the whites have caused more problems that the blacks. and this is coming from a white guy. for those who have no clue what i'm talking about. OPEN A HISTORY BOOK FOR PETES SAKE!!

Well, I can tell you're a thug, you blame the victim. I'm sure you think that all women are asking for rape or sexual harassment because of how they dress.

Do you even stop to think for a second.

He/She's not saying that their right, they're just saying that it's not because your white, it's because of how you act. Attackers - any attackers - are going to go for the person that is going to be the easiest victum or in some cases is obviously looking down on them, hence getting the attacker motivated. The point is whites don't get attacked just because they're white most of the time, they get attacked because the attacker wants - sometimes needs - something and they choose the easiest most profitable victum.

I wouldn't fear walking down the street in a black. latian, or asian neighood. I'd want one other person with me, but I'd want that in all communities because there is always a chance of a rapist or something, but that doesn't matter what race you are. <b>It's not the victums fault, BUT it is a pretty wide spread and accepted theory.</b>

And if you'll notice violence and theift come mostly out of economic areas which are completely broke. Not because people don't want to make a "honest" living, it's because they can't. Most people are going to hire the white guy before the black because most upper management/white upper-middle class people are rasist assholes.

The "white" people in the country had a lot more to start off their economic life then the "black" people. If you'll remember they were our slaves which WE used to make our money. Then we gave them nothing to work with but a hard time, it takes a while for a family line to build up some equidty to pass on to others, they haven't had much time, they've had nothing to start with, and all we did was make it worse.

There was a guy wearing a suit and swearing and threatening someone on his cellphone.

The other 2 guys were wearing suits. There was also a driveway with mafia style cars.

OH MY GOD! A "mafia" style car?! Did the license plate say "MAFIA" on it or something? And how many business people wear suits when they go to meetings or maybe even just work, I mean that never happens.

I'm glad I don't have a cellphone, I bitch at people and threathen them all the time on the phone, you might confuse me for a hitman or terroist and turn me in.

Come on. You know damn well that it wasn't an accident Kahta arranged the list that way.

Stay out of my threads or I will go to the mods.

no youve missed my point
kahta seems to think that there are NO middleclass/upperclass blacks or hispanics.
its not the order they are in, its WHO is included in each group

Upper middle class happens to be about 95% white. Middle class would be about 90% white.

Urban poor would be where most blacks live, so it would be about 15% white.

OH MY GOD! A "mafia" style car?! Did the license plate say "MAFIA" on it or something? And how many business people wear suits when they go to meetings or maybe even just work, I mean that never happens.

I'm glad I don't have a cellphone, I bitch at people and threathen them all the time on the phone, you might confuse me for a hitman or terroist and turn me in.

Last time I checked, a driveway with 4 cars like this was indiciative of the mafia.

http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/2002-photos/2002-cadillac-eldorado.jpg

Never mind the fact it was an Italian neighborhood, the same one, I believe whitey bulger is from.

Last time I checked, a driveway with 4 cars like this was indiciative of the mafia.

http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/2002-photos/2002-cadillac-eldorado.jpg

Never mind the fact it was an Italian neighborhood, the same one, I believe whitey bulger is from.

If they're Italian mafia don't you think they'd at least get a decent car or maybe even an made Italian car. I don't know how you can be arrogant enough to think just because they have the same type of car that they're in the mafia, there could be a thousand reasons why they have more than one of the same car. Including they might LIKE the car. I see two of the same cars in the same color outside a house every weekday, it doesn't mean they're mafia, maybe if they get two more they will be...

Stay out of my threads or I will go to the mods.Princess Kahta strikes again! :D

I wasn't aware that you could "own" a thread here. Or anywhere for that matter unless you administer the boards...Or maybe you're leasing them then. Hmmmm... Any lawyers in the house?


I claim the "Supreme Court oks illegal tea" thread - it sounds like fun! :D

Damnit, this is disgusting. There is no superior culture, just different ones. One may prefer a certain culture over another, but saying that it's superior just makes we want to vomit. How can anyone actually say that there is a superior culture? I cannot believe you people...
Ok We do not come from the same place very often but I gotta agree with you here...This is totally disgusting...Why oh why would anyone post this other then to flame bait?

Princess Kahta strikes again! :D

I wasn't aware that you could "own" a thread here. Or anywhere for that matter unless you administer the boards...Or maybe you're leasing them then. Hmmmm... Any lawyers in the house?


I claim the "Supreme Court oks illegal tea" thread - it sounds like fun! :D


I was. The moderators have upheld this decision in several instances, however there must be a reason for keeping someone out of the said thread, such as flaming, spamming, or flamebaiting.

If they're Italian mafia don't you think they'd at least get a decent car or maybe even an made Italian car. I don't know how you can be arrogant enough to think just because they have the same type of car that they're in the mafia, there could be a thousand reasons why they have more than one of the same car. Including they might LIKE the car. I see two of the same cars in the same color outside a house every weekday, it doesn't mean they're mafia, maybe if they get two more they will be...

Sam neighborhood as Whitey Bulger (http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/bulger.htm)

I like how the poll says "urban black/white/hispanics" and "rural black/white" yet the top choice is "upper middle class white"

Welcome to rascism.

So, I was brought up with the same standars as someone in the city?

None of the Above.

Only true-born patrilineally descenced West Europeans living in Europe can be said to have a culture in the first place!
:p

Last time I checked, a driveway with 4 cars like this was indiciative of the mafia.

http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/2002-photos/2002-cadillac-eldorado.jpg

Never mind the fact it was an Italian neighborhood, the same one, I believe whitey bulger is from.

What neighborhood were you in, and I'll tell you if it was a mafia neighborhood. If you were just up in the North End, it really doesn't count.

The one with Paul Revere's house.

I'm a Communist, but living in the US I'm going to have to say Urban white middle class. Our working class has gotten really stupid lately. They used to be so opressed and aware of it, now they are biting the liberal hand that feeds them.

Last time I checked, a driveway with 4 cars like this was indiciative of the mafia.

http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/2002-photos/2002-cadillac-eldorado.jpg

Never mind the fact it was an Italian neighborhood, the same one, I believe whitey bulger is from.

Whity was not Italian, he is of Irisn decent so you must have been in South Boston instead of the Italain North End. Perhaps what you saw was the IRA. :)

This thread is getting my vote for "Worst Thread EvAr" and also "Most Deserving Of A Lock".

The one with Paul Revere's house.

That's the North End. Bulger was from South Boston.

I'm a Communist, but living in the US I'm going to have to say Urban white middle class. Our working class has gotten really stupid lately. They used to be so opressed and aware of it, now they are biting the liberal hand that feeds them.
Yeah, the Republican Party has duped working-class people into voting for them by screaming so loudly about the decline of the family and cultural values, that they exclude any discussion of conservative "live and let die" economic policies that only benefit the wealthy and are laying waste to their communities.

Check out: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0805073396/qid=1102881873/sr=2-2/ref=pd_ka_b_2_2/102-3324591-7720929

Yeah, the Republican Party has duped working-class people into voting for them by screaming so loudly about the decline of the family and cultural values
Values and rules which are still existing in Ireland: Abortion is illegal and no gay marriages.
So, the Republican Party wants the US to take some steps (not all) in this direction and to make the US in that respect more like catholic Ireland.

Values and rules which are still existing in Ireland: Abortion is illegal and no gay marriages.
So, the Republican Party wants the US to take some steps (not all) in this direction and to make the US in that respect more like catholic Ireland.

I'll vote for that!

This thread is getting my vote for "Worst Thread EvAr" and also "Most Deserving Of A Lock".What happened to that "Satan Awards" thread, BTW?

That's the North End. Bulger was from South Boston.

Regardless, there were Italian flags, italian schools, and itilain restarurants. Plus the elderly people, looked Italian.

Sam neighborhood as Whitey Bulger (http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/bulger.htm)

So what? I'm not an a serial killer like Jeffery Dahmer, but I do live in the same state at he did not 45 minutes away from here. Just because you live in the general area OR have some common ansestry with someone does NOT mean you are going to do the same thing as that other person or that you're even going to share any personality traits with them.

You're making HUGE assumptions.

You're making HUGE assumptions.
I think there's some jesting going on here. I could be wrong, but I don't think they're being all that serious.

So what? I'm not an a serial killer like Jeffery Dahmer, but I do live in the same state at he did not 45 minutes away from here. Just because you live in the general area OR have some common ansestry with someone does NOT mean you are going to do the same thing as that other person or that you're even going to share any personality traits with them.

You're making HUGE assumptions.

You're an idiot. Welcome to my ignore list.

Regardless, there were Italian flags, italian schools, and itilain restarurants. Plus the elderly people, looked Italian.

Italian flag; green, white, red.
Irish flag; green, white, orange.

Not hard to confuse from a distance or if you have been drinking. I still think you were in the South End and saw the IRA. :rolleyes:

I picked urban black poor hispanic, i guess because it's certainly the strongest culture. I mean, look how it's affecting the English language. The white upper class is losing it's culture and picking up that of the urban blacks.

Well, I have to take issue with the first choice, because one does not need to be white to be middle class/upper class.

None of the Above.

Only true-born patrilineally descenced West Europeans living in Europe can be said to have a culture in the first place!
:p
Only you consider weakling, politically correct, wine sipping, socialist anti-americanism "culture".

uhhh....no culture is superior, dumb ass.

Christ, this poll was the most transparent attempt to inspire small minds that I've ever seen here.
Good job asswipe! Your the first to go on my ignore list in several months of attendance here!

You're an idiot. Welcome to my ignore list.

That's so incredibly funny.

I'm particularly impressed how each race has been nicely categorized. This is cool because everybody knows there's no such thing as poor rural hispanics or middle class blacks. And what's an Asian?

All in all, a pretty foul thread.