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There's this kid at my school who claims he is that . . .

Apparenty he believes people should be free, but they don't know how to be free so there should be a group of elites who tell them how to be.

Now is this the most contradictory idea ever?

yeah, it'd be fairly hard to top.

there's nothing libertarian in that political belief. Saying that you are only free to do what someone says you can do is like saying that you have the right to vote if you can pass a difficult poll test or that you can get a refund for a faulty item after filling out 600 pages of paperwork.

There's this kid at my school who claims he is that . . .

Apparenty he believes people should be free, but they don't know how to be free so there should be a group of elites who tell them how to be.

Now is this the most contradictory idea ever?
That sounds strangely like some of the rhetoric that came out of the USSR communist regime. Actually that is the sort of argument that has come from most authoritarian systems of government since the general collapse of fuedalism.

there's nothing libertarian in that political belief. Saying that you are only free to do what someone says you can do is like saying that you have the right to vote if you can pass a difficult poll test or that you can get a refund for a faulty item after filling out 600 pages of paperwork.
LOL, that's increasingly the kind of world we're living in now though, isn't it? :p

That's what the world will be like when I rule it. I'll take the stances of the Libertarians (but not their ideals, mind you) and enforce them upon penalty of death. And you all damn well better like it!

Actually that is the sort of argument that has come from most authoritarian systems of government since the general collapse of fuedalism.

Like the American government?

*grins, stands back and watches fireworks*

As a libertarian fascist I declare the following....

All people are to speak their mind at all times, regardless of language.... should people refuse to speak their mind, they shall be shot immediately.

All people must follow their conscience in religion, and worship according to their own choice.... anyone caught not worshipping to their own choice will be sent to the Antartic gulag's

Everyone shall be free to smoke, injest or inject or not to smoke, injest, or inject whatever recreational drug they would like. People caught not freely doing ot not doing this, according to their own beliefs on this issue, will be shot on sight.

All political parties will be on the ballot, and people will be free to choose their own candidate according to the dictates of their own ideals and conscience, or not to vote if they do not want to.... anyone caught violating this will be shot on site.

Everyone will be free to own or not to own their own firearms, anyone who does not want to own their own firearms, who own their own firearms, or anyone who wants to own their own firearms, but does own their own firearms, will spend 30 years in hard labor.

Sounds like a good old Father Knows Best State to me

Sounds like a good old Father Knows Best State to me
Actually no, a paternalistic state would not bother with claims to libertarianism. The message there would be a benevolent "Trust us, do as we say, it is in your best interest."

There's this kid at my school who claims he is that . . .

Apparenty he believes people should be free, but they don't know how to be free so there should be a group of elites who tell them how to be.

Now is this the most contradictory idea ever?

Just because something is contradictory doesnt mean it cant exist. In a Libertarian Fascist country civilians would have unrestricted civil rights while having no political rights....how hard is it to understand that, you just need to think thats all.

Heh-heh, funny post a while back (examples).

Theocracy! Theocracy! Not Taliban though. Oh no. The Taliban were to Theocracy what the USSR was to Socialism.

In my nationstates's theocracy, there are political rights (I am trying to increase them) with few civil rights (down with abortion, anything evil, damn you, execute you). The opposite of Libertarian Fascism.

It's POSSIBLE, not very likely though. Fascism = no political rights. Libertarian = all civil rights.

Usually people support both or neither, rarely one or the other, but it's not actually contradictory.

There's this kid at my school who claims he is that . . .

Apparenty he believes people should be free, but they don't know how to be free so there should be a group of elites who tell them how to be.

Now is this the most contradictory idea ever?
Sounds like Hegel's idea of a perfect free state (NB: I may have misinterpeted him though, he wasn't the easiest philospher to understand)