NationStates Jolt Archive


Turn your back on Bush

MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:09
The election is over. The fight is not.

Elections are only one part of democracy. We need to think strategically about direct action, learn from a rich history of nonviolent activism, and develop new tactics to take on this administration.

Let's start from the start: Inauguration Day.

On January 20th, 2005, we're calling for a new kind of action. The Bush administration has been successful at keeping protesters away from major events in the last few years by closing off areas around events and using questionable legal strategies to outlaw public dissent. We can use these obstacles to develop new tactics. On Inauguration day, we don't need banners, we don't need signs, we just need people.

We're calling on people to attend inauguration as they are: members of the public. Once through security and at the procession, at a given signal, we'll all turn our backs on Bush. A simple, clear and coherent message.
turnyourbackonBush.org
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 03:12
I wish I could go there. I'll do my best, but I'm just too young (I think).
:mad:
Superpower07
04-12-2004, 03:14
Wow, is MKULTRA actually advocating protests in a democratic society?

Minus that site, he may actually be onto something :rolleyes:
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:17
I wish I could go there. I'll do my best, but I'm just too young (I think).
:mad:
people of any age can attend--just try to look republinazi
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:19
Wow, is MKULTRA actually advocating protests in a democratic society?

Minus that site, he may actually be onto something :rolleyes:
America can only survive if Bush fails at everything
Superpower07
04-12-2004, 03:21
America can only survive if Bush fails at everything
Your statement is illogical

The man has already failed to lead us in the right direction - how can we survive if he further does that?
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 03:23
people of any age can attend--just try to look republinazi
My father is a total Bush supporter. Ugh.
However, he refuses to go to political rallies of any kind, and he won't let me go.
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:25
Your statement is illogical

The man has already failed to lead us in the right direction - how can we survive if he further does that?
becuase if he fails his values are exposed as the evil they are-if he succeeds then we're the Evil Empire that will bring down the world
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:26
My father is a total Bush supporter. Ugh.
However, he refuses to go to political rallies of any kind, and he won't let me go.
my father is a corporate facist-by a certain age its healthy to defy your parents
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 03:27
The election is over. The fight is not.

Elections are only one part of democracy. We need to think strategically about direct action, learn from a rich history of nonviolent activism, and develop new tactics to take on this administration.

Let's start from the start: Inauguration Day.

On January 20th, 2005, we're calling for a new kind of action. The Bush administration has been successful at keeping protesters away from major events in the last few years by closing off areas around events and using questionable legal strategies to outlaw public dissent. We can use these obstacles to develop new tactics. On Inauguration day, we don't need banners, we don't need signs, we just need people.

We're calling on people to attend inauguration as they are: members of the public. Once through security and at the procession, at a given signal, we'll all turn our backs on Bush. A simple, clear and coherent message.
turnyourbackonBush.org
And all of ya bring your guns and assault rifles. These are the times that Americans should use their right to bear arms for a cause actually worth fighting for.
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:43
nah-the power of our ideas/values are more powerful then any bullit
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 03:45
nah-the power of our ideas/values are more powerful then any bullit
But don't you want to see the rockets red glare and make the bombs burst in air?
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 03:46
But don't you want to see the rockets red glare and make the bombs burst in air?
OMFG!!11111one11111oneone111!!!!!!! TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!!111one1111oneone!!1
America USSA
04-12-2004, 03:46
If I did that I'd be too tempted to moon him then his SS would shove bad things up my bum :rolleyes:

but really I love a good protest specially when it involves him but unless it's in colorado i just cant afford to go :(
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 03:48
OMFG!!11111one11111oneone111!!!!!!! TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!!111one1111oneone!!1
I prefer the term: CIA puppet.
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:49
But don't you want to see the rockets red glare and make the bombs burst in air?
those are the words of our death glorifying national anthem
Superpower07
04-12-2004, 03:50
How can I 'turn my back' if I don't even know which way Bush is physically facing?
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 03:52
Its funny to say to say if kerry would have won then this fourm would have been clogged with anti-kerry threads. How can you like kerry?? Look at his chin. LOOK AT IT!!. Any man with a chin that huge is hiding something. he could hit a baseball with his chin
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 03:53
those are the words of our death glorifying national anthem
Well then put these words into actions. KABOOM!!!! :sniper: :mp5:
To kill that which doesn't exist is like drawing in the sand. But the deaths of their false demi gods will open the eyes of the people.
Superpower07
04-12-2004, 03:54
Its funny to say to say if kerry would have won then this fourm would have been clogged with anti-kerry threads. How can you like kerry?? Look at his chin. LOOK AT IT!!. Any man with a chin that huge is hiding something. he could hit a baseball with his chin
Actually, I dislike Kerry even more than Bush (I'm Libertarian btw)
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 03:55
Well you know bush as a Gun slinging Texan but you dont know jack shit about Kerry. Just that he has a large chin
OceanDrive
04-12-2004, 03:55
...by a certain age its healthy to defy your parentsNo it is not...
My name around here is made...Im as anti-Bush as you can be...

But...here is my advice... do not defy your Father...do not figth your Family...over Politics or Religion....

You can be an activist outside your home...let them know your points of view...but do not argue...

Its just not worted.
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:56
How can I 'turn my back' if I don't even know which way Bush is physically facing?
he faces forward
Superpower07
04-12-2004, 03:57
Well you know bush as a Gun slinging Texan but you dont know jack shit about Kerry. Just that he has a large chin
Does he have more chins than a Chinese phonebook? :D
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 03:59
Anyways i bet ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY WILL DO IT WILL NOT. HOW DO THEY KNOW THIS IS NOT SOME SEX RAPE GOTHIC ORGEY. I stopped joining shit that required me to leave my house
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 03:59
Id take Kerrys chin over Smirky the chimp any day
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 03:59
Its funny to say to say if kerry would have won then this fourm would have been clogged with anti-kerry threads. How can you like kerry?? Look at his chin. LOOK AT IT!!. Any man with a chin that huge is hiding something. he could hit a baseball with his chin
People like you frighten me. How could you vote based on what someone looks like?
I wouldn't care if he looked like he was dead.
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 04:00
I cant vote. im 14. Haha your scared of a 14 year old!!
Ryanania
04-12-2004, 04:01
those are the words of our death glorifying national anthemIt's not death glorifying at all. It's about how the United States can weather a storm, just like her national bird.

"that our flag was still there..."
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 04:03
Well as history has proven time again Great empires will fall. and its not just Bush's fault or the conservites. Its all the poltical parties. I very much believe we are seeing the end of the US
My Gun Not Yours
04-12-2004, 04:04
Hmm. Let's see. One reason I didn't vote for Kerry. I am a combat veteran myself, though not of Vietnam. So I won't bring up the Vietnam protesting. Maybe he had his reasons.

Let's just see about all the men he served with. Let's ask all of them to stand up, and say whether they think he's a good leader (after all, he was an officer). They can say he was great, or really bad, or not say anything at all.

It's surprising that only one was willing to stand up for him, and he was paid to be on Kerry's campaign. The rest WERE NOT PAID A DIME and to a man, they said he wasn't a good leader.

If I interviewed 34 of MKULTRA's close friends and associates (and let's assume he's a budding revolutionary, which is one of the more honorable, if not historically pleasing occupations), and 1 said he was a great revolutionary leader, and 33 said he was a yellow running dog capitalist pig, I think it would be rather hard for me to be convinced that he was a great revolutionary leader.
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 04:05
Even the Uber liberials didnt like kerry
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:06
Well as history has proven time again Great empires will fall. and its not just Bush's fault or the conservites. Its all the poltical parties. I very much believe we are seeing the end of the US

Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez vous dans les campagnes,
Mugir ces féroces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger nos fils, nos compagnes!

Aux armes, citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons!
Marchons! Marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!

Amour sacré de la patrie,
Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs!
Liberté, Liberté cherie,
Combats avec tes defenseurs!
Sous nos drapeaux, que la victoire
Accoure à tes males accents!
Que tes ennemis expirants
Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire!

Nous entrerons dans la carrière
Quand nos ainés n'y seront plus;
Nous y trouverons leur poussière
Et la trace de leurs vertus.
Bien moins jaloux de leur survivre
Que de partager leur cercueil,
Nous aurons le sublime orgueil
De les venger ou de les suivre!
Celtlund
04-12-2004, 04:06
Its funny to say to say if kerry would have won then this fourm would have been clogged with anti-kerry threads. How can you like kerry?? Look at his chin. LOOK AT IT!!. Any man with a chin that huge is hiding something. he could hit a baseball with his chin

Sorry, but I can't help it, maybe he is hiding Teddy's balls with that chin. :p
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 04:08
It's about voting for anyone over someone who is pure evil.
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 04:08
Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez vous dans les campagnes,
Mugir ces féroces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger nos fils, nos compagnes!

Aux armes, citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons!
Marchons! Marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!

Amour sacré de la patrie,
Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs!
Liberté, Liberté cherie,
Combats avec tes defenseurs!
Sous nos drapeaux, que la victoire
Accoure à tes males accents!
Que tes ennemis expirants
Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire!

Nous entrerons dans la carrière
Quand nos ainés n'y seront plus;
Nous y trouverons leur poussière
Et la trace de leurs vertus.
Bien moins jaloux de leur survivre
Que de partager leur cercueil,
Nous aurons le sublime orgueil
De les venger ou de les suivre!


Ok. Now in english please.
Spookopolis
04-12-2004, 04:08
on a facetious note, our national bird likes to hang around our landfills. Ironic? :p The national anthem was written by Francis Scott Key when he was captured and held on a Brit ship and watched us still standing even when the brits dropped innumberable loads of artillery on a bunker. What's with people bashing Kerry's chin? Leno has a huge one. Leno to Kerry is like comparing the sun to earth. bah. But we can't forget the tale of Curious George, always gettin in trouble.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:09
Ok. Now in english please.

Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts

To arms citizens
Form you battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows

What do they want this horde of slaves
Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
What methods must be taken?
It is we they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!

What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our courts!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our warrior sons
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would have themselves be
The masters of destiny

Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward
Against you we are all soldiers
If they fall, our young heros
France will bear new ones
Ready to join the fight against you

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows
Spare these sad victims
Who with regret are taking up arms against us
But not these bloody despots
These accomplices of Bouillé
All these tigers who pitilessly
Are ripping open their mothers' breasts

We shall enter into the pit
When our elders will no longer be there
There we shall find their ashes
And the mark of their virtues
We are much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or joining them

Sacred Love for the Fatherland
Lead and support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty
Join the struggle with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
hasten to you virile (or manly) force
So that in death your enemies
See your triumph and our glory!
Celtlund
04-12-2004, 04:10
Hmm. Let's see. One reason I didn't vote for Kerry. I am a combat veteran myself, though not of Vietnam.

Thank you for your service.
A fellow vet.
Ninjadom Revival
04-12-2004, 04:10
The election is over. The fight is not.

Elections are only one part of democracy. We need to think strategically about direct action, learn from a rich history of nonviolent activism, and develop new tactics to take on this administration.

Let's start from the start: Inauguration Day.

On January 20th, 2005, we're calling for a new kind of action. The Bush administration has been successful at keeping protesters away from major events in the last few years by closing off areas around events and using questionable legal strategies to outlaw public dissent. We can use these obstacles to develop new tactics. On Inauguration day, we don't need banners, we don't need signs, we just need people.

We're calling on people to attend inauguration as they are: members of the public. Once through security and at the procession, at a given signal, we'll all turn our backs on Bush. A simple, clear and coherent message.
turnyourbackonBush.org
Thus, ignorance is making the country worse and worse. People like you are going to force us into a second Civil War. You may not like Bush, but you should at least try to work with his administration American to American as opposed to trying to destabilize it as right versus left.
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 04:11
OK. I dont get what that has to do with the Fall of the Us. Are you saying russia is gonna come and take over the US?
My Gun Not Yours
04-12-2004, 04:11
Hmm. Pure evil, you say. I find it interesting that the people who are ready to describe Bush as "evil" are rarely ready to describe Islamic terrorists as "evil".

We know, and especially Bin Laden knew (as he stated in his last message), that Kerry would never, ever really do anything to harm Bin Laden, much less hunt him down.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:12
OK. I dont get what that has to do with the Fall of the Us. Are you saying russia is gonna come and take over the US?
No. I'm advocating revolution. And if there ever was a revolutionary song this is it.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:13
Hmm. Pure evil, you say. I find it interesting that the people who are ready to describe Bush as "evil" are rarely ready to describe Islamic terrorists as "evil".

Don't worry. I believe they both are pure evil.
The Black Forrest
04-12-2004, 04:13
Ok. Now in english please.

It's La Marseillaise.....
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:14
Your statement is illogical

The man has already failed to lead us in the right direction - how can we survive if he further does that?


What he meant was that bush needs to fail at all his aims, because his aims are what hurt our country.
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 04:15
Von Witzleben, what's that from?
Is it Les Miserables, or was that some other French revolutionary poetry?
That was French, right?
Zackaroth
04-12-2004, 04:15
I bet Osma is hiding in Kerrys chin. Thats why we cant find him
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:16
Von Witzleben, what's that from?
Is it Les Miserables, or was that some other French revolutionary poetry?
That was French, right?
:D Eeeh..LOL...no. It's not from the musical Les Miserables. It's the La Marseillaise. The French national anthem. :D
Arribastan
04-12-2004, 04:18
:D Eeeh..LOL...no. It's not from the musical Les Miserables. It's the La Marseillaise. The French national anthem. :D
Grrr...
That's what I get for taking Spanish.
And that's what I get for reading the abridged version of Les Mis in school.
Stupid! Stupid!
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:19
I bet Osma is hiding in Kerrys chin. Thats why we cant find him


You are so stupid.


The WMDs are hidden in john kerry's chin.

Osama just *put* them there, he's hiding at one of john kerrys 74 houses in france.
The Black Forrest
04-12-2004, 04:20
Grrr...
That's what I get for taking Spanish.
And that's what I get for reading the abridged version of Les Mis in school.
Stupid! Stupid!

Just rent Casablanca and you will see it sung! ;)
Celtlund
04-12-2004, 04:21
Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé

Ok Jacques, not all of us are bilingual. How about a translation.

PS I got a D in French in High School in 1960.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:21
Grrr...
That's what I get for taking Spanish.
And that's what I get for reading the abridged version of Les Mis in school.
Stupid! Stupid!
Well, I did post the English translation....no need for Spanish. ;)
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:22
Ok Jacques, not all of us are bilingual. How about a translation.

PS I got a D in French in High School in 1960.
Already posted it. Previouse page. :p
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:24
Aux armes, citoyen!

Forment vos battallions!

Marchons!
Marchons!

Quan sang impur!

Abrace nos sillions!


I think thats what it says, I'm far from fluent in french though and woefully ignorant of much french spelling.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:26
Aux armes, citoyen!

Forment vos battallions!

Marchons!
Marchons!

Quan sang impur!

Abrace nos sillions!


To arms citizens
Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows

http://www.abacci.com/atlas/anthem.asp?countryID=197
Heres the rather catchy tune to go along with the words.
Shattered Shades
04-12-2004, 04:27
Idiots to Rome fall just soley on the fact it was invaded? Did the Persian Empire fall just because Alexander attacked it?

No, you idiots! It was because the nation became corrupt. The Persian Empire went left and fell for a lack of loyal soldiers. THe Romans fell because they went right and thier soldiers got cocky(and chrisitian, but I got no proof that caused it's fall) and got thier asses hand to them by the tribes of Ghaul and Germany.

Next you seditious bastards, If I see one fucking gun at the inauguration , I'll personally find you and beat you like were my red-headed step-child. You want to protest and the inaugration(peacefully) that's cool and great I hate Bush(I'm an NRA member and Pro-Soldier). Use every right you got and all your civil powers to save america(if you can), but One thing I've learned is If its born in fire it'll die in fire.

And to the Vets(I'm not a vet) but thank you for fighting for your country.
Celtlund
04-12-2004, 04:28
Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts

Very good. Author and year please.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:28
Idiots to Rome fall just soley on the fact it was invaded? Did the Persian Empire fall just because Alexander attacked it?

No, you idiots! It was because the nation became corrupt. The Persian Empire went left and fell for a lack of loyal soldiers. THe Romans fell because they went right and thier soldiers got cocky(and chrisitian, but I got no proof that caused it's fall) and got thier asses hand to them by the tribes of Ghaul and Germany.

Next you seditious bastards, If I see one fucking gun at the inauguration , I'll personally find you and beat you like were my red-headed step-child. You want to protest and the inaugration(peacefully) that's cool and great I hate Bush(I'm an NRA member and Pro-Soldier). Use every right you got and all your civil powers to save america(if you can), but One thing I've learned is If its born in fire it'll die in fire.

And to the Vets(I'm not a vet) but thank you for fighting for your country.
Rome fell mainly cause it's soldiers were mostly German mercenaries. Cause the Romans rather partied then fight.
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:28
Truly a hell of a national anthem.

I still maintain that the soviet anthem (recently made the russian anthem, with different lyrics) is the most powerful.

The marseillaise though is the most beautiful.
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:30
Very good. Author and year please.

Thats the french national anthem.

Dates to 1792 if i'm not mistaken.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:31
Very good. Author and year please.
April 25th, 1792. Rouget the Lisle.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 04:35
just so we r all on the same page, can u list the ways bush is evil? thx
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:38
just so we r all on the same page, can u list the ways bush is evil? thx
1. He's president.
2. He's a revamped Xtian.
3. He's Bush.
Feel free to add more reasons.
Qorhal
04-12-2004, 04:38
No. It's completely different from what you thought.

"Al-Kaeda has always been America's friend. And we were never allied with Saddam Hussein." (Free from George Orwell, "1984")

In fact, that "Al-Kaeda" organization has provided Bush with a - at that time obviously much-believed - justification. At some time they were seeking contacts on a lower level, but bin Laden considered Saddam an apostate, and Saddam did not want to be the target of an U.S. attack following Al-Kaeda's actions. Hey, Muslim Fundamentalists received billions of dollars back in the Eighties when it was obviously not at all evil to kill Soviet people and their Afghan allies in Afghanistan.

Bin Laden is not a person any more. He is a state of mind. He is the state of mind adopted by the current U.S. government. There is no way more effective for recruiting new Muslim terrorists than attacking innocent Arab people. (In fact the mindset of the current U.S. government is closer to that of the Muslim fundamentalists than to the U.S. liberals.)

[And remember that the "great Republican presidents" did not fulfill important criteria so that they cannot be qualified as "neo-cons": Lincoln was an atheist, Eisenhower was not a member of that party (in fact he had also played with the thought of candidating on the Democratic ticket), Reagan's was a "swing-voter" making pragmatic instead of ideological decisions, and even "man-eater" Nixon was more liberal than the people in office today.]
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:40
I still maintain that the soviet anthem (recently made the russian anthem, with different lyrics) is the most powerful.

This one?

1-й куплет:

Россия - священная наша держава,

Россия - любимая наша страна.

Могучая воля, великая слава -

Твое достоянье на все времена!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

2-й куплет:

От южных морей до полярного края

Раскинулись наши леса и поля.

Одна ты на свете! Одна ты такая -

Хранимая Богом родная земля!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

3-й куплет

Широкий простор для мечты и для жизни

Грядущие нам открывают года.

Нам силу дает наша верность Отчизне.

Так было, так есть и так будет всегда!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 04:43
so, being president makes you evil? and whats Xtian? christian? every president ever is automaticaly 1/3 pure evil according to u. and a lot are 2/3. since when does being christian make u evil?
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:43
since when does being christian make u evil?
Since about 2000 years.
OOOHH....3000 nice shiny posts.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 04:45
reasons being......?


and what about just the fact of being president making u evil?
Qorhal
04-12-2004, 04:46
Here is just another of many explanations:

In fact the Roman Empire went down, but not so much because Christians would not fight (in fact they were a lot more aggressive than "Pagans" in those days - just because the Empire became Xtian the atrocities known from antiquity did not stop but went to new heights), but because the empire became divided, government running from one usurper to the other, one being more ambitious than the other - but also more incompetent and corrupt.
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:47
This one?

1-й куплет:

Россия - священная наша держава,

Россия - любимая наша страна.

Могучая воля, великая слава -

Твое достоянье на все времена!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

2-й куплет:

От южных морей до полярного края

Раскинулись наши леса и поля.

Одна ты на свете! Одна ты такая -

Хранимая Богом родная земля!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

3-й куплет

Широкий простор для мечты и для жизни

Грядущие нам открывают года.

Нам силу дает наша верность Отчизне.

Так было, так есть и так будет всегда!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!


My cyrillic isnt what it once was, but if it starts out:

soyooz neroshimi republika svobnik or something like that then yes, thats what I mean.

The old soviet lyrics I mean, i've not taken the time to listen to the new russian one.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:48
reasons being......?
2000 years of boredom.


And attrocities...of course.


and what about just the fact of being president making u evil?
President of the US. Kinda like Emperor Palpatine.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:49
My cyrillic isnt what it once was, but if it starts out:

soyooz neroshimi republika svobnik or something like that then yes, thats what I mean.

The old soviet lyrics I mean, i've not taken the time to listen to the new russian one.
I have no bleeding idea. I just copy and paste.

Russia - our sacred sovereignty,

Russia - our beloved land,

Mighty will, great glory -

Are yours for all time!

Refrain:

Be praised, our free Fatherland,

Union of ancient fraternal peoples,

By our forefathers was given the wisdom of the nation,

Be praised, our land! We are proud of you!

2nd verse:

From the southern seas to the polar lands

Are spread our forests and fields.

You are unique in the world! Such is only you -

Our native land kept by God!

Refrain:

Be praised, our free Fatherland,

Union of ancient fraternal peoples,

By our forefathers was given the wisdom of the nation,

Be praised, our land! We are proud of you!

3rd verse:

A wide expanse for dreams and for life

The coming years open up to us.

Our loyalty to the Fatherland gives us strength.

So it was, so it is, so it will be always!

Refrain:

Be praised, our free Fatherland,

Union of ancient fraternal peoples.

By our forefathers was given the wisdom of the nation,

Be praised, our land! We are proud of you!
MKULTRA
04-12-2004, 04:49
Well as history has proven time again Great empires will fall. and its not just Bush's fault or the conservites. Its all the poltical parties. I very much believe we are seeing the end of the US
me2--we are living in the last days of empire
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 04:51
wow boredome is evil! that sounds kina evil to say witholding urself from doing certian things is evil. if i dont go have sex with anyone i want, am i evil? so then it is a rule in order not to be evil, u must do what society currently holds as the immoral fun things.
Violets and Kitties
04-12-2004, 04:52
Thus, ignorance is making the country worse and worse. People like you are going to force us into a second Civil War. You may not like Bush, but you should at least try to work with his administration American to American as opposed to trying to destabilize it as right versus left.

So you are suggesting total idealogical surrender to whatever power of faction may be in office. You are suggesting that the moderates and liberals in this country just roll over and play nice - kinda like the neo-cons did while Clinton as in office.

Oh wait - they neo-cons didn't do that, did they? No, they organized political action and spread the word of their idealogies in an attempt to try to change the political direction of the nation.

I have absolutely zero respect for anyone, of any politically idealogy, who would suggest that peaceful methods of protest and organizing and carrying on of the political process in general should simply be abandoned either because their preferred political party is in power or because, having bought into bullshit totalitarian propaganda, they are afraid of free speech.

It is ideas like the one you propose that will ruin democracy.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:53
wow boredome is evil! that sounds kina evil to say witholding urself from doing certian things is evil. if i dont go have sex with anyone i want, am i evil? so then it is a rule in order not to be evil, u must do what society currently holds as the immoral fun things.
You got it!!! :) So....what are you wearing?
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 04:54
lol. we all can laugh with eachother, no matter how different our views lol
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:54
I have no bleeding idea. I just copy and paste.

Russia - our sacred sovereignty,

Russia - our beloved land,

Mighty will, great glory -

Are yours for all time!

Refrain:

Be praised, our free Fatherland,

Union of ancient fraternal peoples,

By our forefathers was given the wisdom of the nation,

Be praised, our land! We are proud of you!

2nd verse:

From the southern seas to the polar lands

Are spread our forests and fields.

You are unique in the world! Such is only you -

Our native land kept by God!

Refrain:

Be praised, our free Fatherland,

Union of ancient fraternal peoples,

By our forefathers was given the wisdom of the nation,

Be praised, our land! We are proud of you!

3rd verse:

A wide expanse for dreams and for life

The coming years open up to us.

Our loyalty to the Fatherland gives us strength.

So it was, so it is, so it will be always!

Refrain:

Be praised, our free Fatherland,

Union of ancient fraternal peoples.

By our forefathers was given the wisdom of the nation,

Be praised, our land! We are proud of you!


Nah thats not it, Its the "gimno sovietski" or something like that.

I'll find a site with it and post that for ya, I've had it on mp3 for ages and ages.
New Granada
04-12-2004, 04:55
http://www.funet.fi/pub/culture/russian/html_pages/soviet.html

Google gave me this, looks like quite a good site.
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:56
me2--we are living in the last days of empire
Your sure?

Its not the east or the west side,
no it’s not.
It’s not the north or the south side,
no it’s not.
It’s the dark side
you are correct.
Get in front of the US...AAAAH, to all you Bush haters out there we’r gonna blow your country up!
What is thy bidding, my master?
It’s a disaster, it's Osama we’re after
But if he could be turned to the dark side…
Yes, he’d be a powerful ally, another dark CIA.
He will join us or die.
We got WMD's we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's. Man you know that we got it WMD's! Man you know that we got it WMD's! Man you know that we got it, WMD's!
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 04:59
http://www.funet.fi/pub/culture/russian/html_pages/soviet.html

Google gave me this, looks like quite a good site.
I have the tune and song from Kazaa. The old Soviet one. In German. But I think the words are pretty much the same.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:01
russia completely emptied a place of a huge amount of WMD's one time in 2 weeks b4 inspectors got there. as u can see im not exactly sure on numbers lol. just think how easy it would have been for Iraq to get em out of their country
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 05:17
russia completely emptied a place of a huge amount of WMD's one time in 2 weeks b4 inspectors got there. as u can see im not exactly sure on numbers lol. just think how easy it would have been for Iraq to get em out of their country
Yes. Very easy. Across Turkey and the Caucasus right into mother Russia.
Violets and Kitties
04-12-2004, 05:18
Even the Uber liberials didnt like kerry

That is because Kerry isn't liberal.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:22
yea...or to a bordering nation
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 05:25
yea...or to a bordering nation
Yes, Kuwait. Or arch enemies Syria/Iran.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:29
stop with the sarcasm!
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 05:31
stop with the sarcasm!
But in sarcasm often lies truth. Like now.
The Psyker
04-12-2004, 05:35
Your sure?

Its not the east or the west side,
no it’s not.
It’s not the north or the south side,
no it’s not.
It’s the dark side
you are correct.
Get in front of the US...AAAAH, to all you Bush haters out there we’r gonna blow your country up!
What is thy bidding, my master?
It’s a disaster, it's Osama we’re after
But if he could be turned to the dark side…
Yes, he’d be a powerful ally, another dark CIA.
He will join us or die.
We got WMD's we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's , we got WMD's. Man you know that we got it WMD's! Man you know that we got it WMD's! Man you know that we got it, WMD's!
LOL :p :p :D Funniest thing I have heard all day.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:37
even if they are enemies, iraq would still give them to one of them if there was a chance it would stop an invasion. im sure a country would b more than willing to accept!
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 05:39
even if they are enemies, iraq would still give them to one of them if there was a chance it would stop an invasion. im sure a country would b more than willing to accept!
Hmm yeah. Giving your arch enemies super weapons. As long as they promise not to use them against you. Makes sense..... :p
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:42
lol. so.....what are u wearing?
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 05:45
lol. so.....what are u wearing?
My unicorn underwear. And my little mermaid bathrobe. And my bad ass Transformers slippers.
Andaluciae
04-12-2004, 05:47
If you can get tickets, more power to ya'. But, there aren't any left, minus the ones in the major RNC donor section that is.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:53
Von Witzleben, 87% average income tax rate!? wow lol!
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 05:54
Von Witzleben, 87% average income tax rate!? wow lol!
My people undertand and accept it. They better!!! Or else.....
Kerubia
04-12-2004, 05:57
My people undertand and accept it. They better!!! Or else.....

Oh and don't forget . . . "Go Democracy!"
The Tin Gods
04-12-2004, 05:58
ive got a great idea, rename this thread to "whiny teenagers against bush" and continue on against bush and whatever you people like whining about togather.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 05:58
my animal is the chupacabra! (spelling, questionable)
Von Witzleben
04-12-2004, 06:00
Oh and don't forget . . . "Go Democracy!"
Yes, yes. Democracy good. *orders to shoot the protesters*
What? I'm bored. There's nothing on TV. Perhaps I should have the people in charge of the programming executed as well. Hmmm...like the thought. We could make that into a show.
Maiasa
04-12-2004, 06:04
undefinedundefinedundefined :sniper: :headbang: :) :mp5: :gundge: :fluffle: :confused: my adice is to do whatever the hell you feel like!!!!!!!!!
McEacherntopia
04-12-2004, 06:04
Even the Uber liberials didnt like kerry

uber liberals don't like kerry because he's not really liberal. he's corporate, because he needed to court the middle class vote. nader is the uber liberal candidate, but he will never win, because not enough of america agrees with him.
ANAMAMA
04-12-2004, 06:06
undefinedundefinedundefined :sniper: :headbang: :) :mp5: :gundge: :fluffle: :confused: my adice is to do whatever the hell you feel like!!!!!!!!!


hmm "do what thou wilt" aliester crowley? you and jimmy page should have a party
Queensland Ontario
04-12-2004, 06:10
"Society must take every means at its disposal to defend itself against the emergence of a parallel power which defies the elected power"-Pierre Elliott Trudeau. Canadain PM and Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
MKULTRA
05-12-2004, 01:19
Hmm. Let's see. One reason I didn't vote for Kerry. I am a combat veteran myself, though not of Vietnam. So I won't bring up the Vietnam protesting. Maybe he had his reasons.

Let's just see about all the men he served with. Let's ask all of them to stand up, and say whether they think he's a good leader (after all, he was an officer). They can say he was great, or really bad, or not say anything at all.

It's surprising that only one was willing to stand up for him, and he was paid to be on Kerry's campaign. The rest WERE NOT PAID A DIME and to a man, they said he wasn't a good leader.

If I interviewed 34 of MKULTRA's close friends and associates (and let's assume he's a budding revolutionary, which is one of the more honorable, if not historically pleasing occupations), and 1 said he was a great revolutionary leader, and 33 said he was a yellow running dog capitalist pig, I think it would be rather hard for me to be convinced that he was a great revolutionary leader.the only vets who shamefully smeared Kerrys war record were on the payroll republicans--their ringleader John O'Neill is a republican character assassin goin back to the Nixon era--you were duped
MKULTRA
05-12-2004, 01:22
Thus, ignorance is making the country worse and worse. People like you are going to force us into a second Civil War. You may not like Bush, but you should at least try to work with his administration American to American as opposed to trying to destabilize it as right versus left.
Bush created the divide--its up to him to heal the rifts not me and since hes not willing to then neither am I
MKULTRA
05-12-2004, 01:25
Hmm. Pure evil, you say. I find it interesting that the people who are ready to describe Bush as "evil" are rarely ready to describe Islamic terrorists as "evil".

We know, and especially Bin Laden knew (as he stated in his last message), that Kerry would never, ever really do anything to harm Bin Laden, much less hunt him down.Bush is the one who said catching Osama was not a priority and Bush was the one who outsourced the hunt for Osama with afghan warlords who were his allies a week before.
MKULTRA
05-12-2004, 01:27
I bet Osma is hiding in Kerrys chin. Thats why we cant find him
nah--its more likely Bush is sheltering him for when he needs him again
MKULTRA
05-12-2004, 02:19
"Society must take every means at its disposal to defend itself against the emergence of a parallel power which defies the elected power"-Pierre Elliott Trudeau. Canadain PM and Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
Pierre Trudeau was obviously a facist pig
Queensland Ontario
05-12-2004, 02:26
Pierre Trudeau was obviously a facist pig

You know nothing about him.That would be like me calling lincon a facist pig. Do your homework kid.
Straughn
05-12-2004, 03:15
Been a while.
I'm adjusting my thread response, i read & keep notes ... thusly ....

Post #37 : Francis Scott Key actually plagiarised the song from an Irish drinking ditty and merely wrote new lyrics to it.
Post #42: There'd be more pissvinegarfirebrimstoneintegrity to your opinion were it not that the Bush family is friends (perks) with the Saudis AND the Bin Ladens.
Post #66: Interesting.
Post #77: As always, thought provoking.
Post #78: (and many others;) Von Witzleben - YOU ROCK!
Post # 112 : Might've been a joke.
Feel free to correct me if i'm actually wrong on anything here, including spelling.
Das Rocket
05-12-2004, 03:38
This one?

1-й куплет:

Россия - священная наша держава,

Россия - любимая наша страна.

Могучая воля, великая слава -

Твое достоянье на все времена!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

2-й куплет:

От южных морей до полярного края

Раскинулись наши леса и поля.

Одна ты на свете! Одна ты такая -

Хранимая Богом родная земля!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

3-й куплет

Широкий простор для мечты и для жизни

Грядущие нам открывают года.

Нам силу дает наша верность Отчизне.

Так было, так есть и так будет всегда!

Припев:

Славься, Отечество наше свободное,

Братских народов союз вековой,

Предками данная мудрость народная!

Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой!
Cool. I can pull off English and French, but not Cyrillic charachters.
Whan sound does the backwards "N" make?
Von Witzleben
05-12-2004, 04:31
Cool. I can pull off English and French, but not Cyrillic charachters.
Neither can I. That should answer your question. ;)
Violets and Kitties
05-12-2004, 15:43
hmm "do what thou wilt" aliester crowley? you and jimmy page should have a party

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will.
Liskeinland
05-12-2004, 15:52
Anybody noticed how Bush seems to have forgotten about Osama? Let's create a diversion somewhere else… I know, let's have a war in a country whose leader hates Osama (Iraq, or Eye-Raq, or whatever) and so doesn't have connections with him, and let's pretend to be Christian while widening the rich-and-poor gap, and then let's pollute the world and tell all the Americans that it's not that bad!

Wow. I think I need some extra ventilation ducts for all that steam.
My Gun Not Yours
06-12-2004, 13:58
I think it's rather clever, and it doesn't have anything to do with WMD.

Islamic radicals are hotheads - easily angered and easily drawn to conflict. Case in point, the original invasion of Afghanistan by Soviet forces. It attracted Islamic militants like a super magnet.

Afghanistan was subdued too quickly, and it's not as easy to get to as it once was (since the US isn't helping you get there like it did in the good old days).

So, start a war in easy walking distance from Syria, Iran, Saudi, etc. Sit there as an occupier.

If you build it, they will come. To Iraq, not the US. And commit suicide in large numbers.

They are too stupid to realize what's happenning, and so are some other people who believe that we should wait until they are in our suburbs before we ask them to play nice. :sniper: