NationStates Jolt Archive

I'd have to say Booker T. Washington, hands down.

myself

Gary Coleman.

Gary Coleman.
Seconded!

Giuseppe Mazzini!

Marquis de Sade

Marquis de Sade

If anything he's overrated. I'd say witches, they're both misunderstood and underrated.

Joseph.

It takes a lot of self-esteem to not be bitter at the whole Immaculate Conception-Jesus, Son of God thing.

Honorable Mention:

James Wright.

Anybody know why?

If anything he's overrated. I'd say witches, they're both misunderstood and underrated.
Arent they mostly bullshitters that just make crap up and call it being a witch?

Joseph.

It takes a lot of self-esteem to not be bitter at the whole Immaculate Conception-Jesus, Son of God thing.

Honorable Mention:

James Wright.

Anybody know why?
invented shoelaces?

invented shoelaces?

Nope. Well, he might have. but if he did, that's just another feather in his cap.

:confused: Nope. Well, he might have. but if he did, that's just another feather in his cap.
He was an indian?

:confused:
He was an indian?

If he was, that's just one more hurdle he jumped over!

If he was, that's just one more hurdle he jumped over!
*head explodes*

look what you did

Has anyone ever heard of Gaius Marius?

*head explodes*

look what you did

Well, if I don't exercise my talents, I could lose them.

I'd say Gorbachev. He's not exactly creditless or anything, but in school years are devoted to Hitler and about 2 minutes to Gorby. He just rocks. He can never be overrated.
Oh, and Stresemann. He was amazing too, but most people don't even know who he is.

Arent they mostly bullshitters that just make crap up and call it being a witch?

Well, most of the people who call themselves witches are bullshit, but there definitely exist a large number of "true" witches in the world, most of them in places you wouldn't expect. It may surprise you to learn that every major political and religious leader in history has been a closet witch, many without even knowing it themselves.

Billy Mitchell

Don't hear much about Thomas Paine (in school anyway). Good guy.

Well, most of the people who call themselves witches are bullshit, but there definitely exist a large number of "true" witches in the world, most of them in places you wouldn't expect. It may surprise you to learn that every major political and religious leader in history has been a closet witch, many without even knowing it themselves.
Start a thread on that subject and tell us all about it .(please)

Not everyone likes the martial arts, but no one dislikes Bruce Lee. He brought eastern fighting systems into the mainstream (and looked good doing it).

If anything he's overrated. I'd say witches, they're both misunderstood and underrated.

lol

ok, lets ignore sexual ethics shall we.

Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. They did some HUGE things.

And maybe Alexander Hamilton.

Sir Aurthur Currie & Dr. Banting

Beaker... remember Beaker

Beaker... remember Beaker

The nation or the muppet?

Beaker... remember Beaker

From the Muppet Show? What about Fozzie, or the Swedish Chef?

Stinkybutts

Beaker... remember Beaker
Wasn't his name Beeker?

From the Muppet Show? What about Fozzie, or the Swedish Chef?

There was a nation here called Beaker. He got permanently removed after several deletings.

He was a funny guy, and it kept him around for a long time despite numerous warnings. But he had a mouth control problem. He was a lot like me without the self-control.

I miss him. :(

Wasn't his name Beeker?

Yeah. ANd later, Beeks.

Yeah. ANd later, Beeks.
Wasn't he also Philandrea? Or Marathon?

Belisarius? The only seasoned general to have never lost a single battle. His work added centuries to the Byzantine Empire's lifespan.

Late at night, so;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Belisarius

Wasn't he also Philandrea? Or Marathon?

God, no. Those were two other nations that got removed around that time.

Marathon was an ultra-conservative.

ANd Philandrea, oddly enough, was a militant liberal. Something I thought was an oxymoron.

They were both very rude people.

lol

ok, lets ignore sexual ethics shall we.

I don't know, I think Masoch had at least as much influence as Sade, even though he gets no credit for it. The Marquis just made a big splash, he didn't actually accomplish that much.

God, no. Those were two other nations that got removed around that time.

Marathon was an ultra-conservative.

ANd Philandrea, oddly enough, was a militant liberal. Something I thought was an oxymoron.

They were both very rude people.
Philandrea is still here dude.

God, no. Those were two other nations that got removed around that time.

Marathon was an ultra-conservative.

ANd Philandrea, oddly enough, was a militant liberal. Something I thought was an oxymoron.

They were both very rude people.

A militant liberal is just a self-hating conservative.

And yes... they were both very rude.

.
ANd Philandrea, oddly enough, was a militant liberal. Something I thought was an oxymoron.

You sure got the moron part right. :p

Philandrea is still here dude.

*blink* Really?

Philandrea is still here dude.

Yeah, as Terra Pvlcra (totally spelled wrong, but I can't remember who to spell it correctly.)

Gaius Marius, didn't he transform the Roman Army into a professional force?

As for my most underrated person, I'd have to say,

Nikola Tesla

Fortunately, the short time They and I were here at the same time, I was still young and silly and carefree. I wasn't the seasoned and grizzled political debate machine that I am now. :)

James Longstreet.

*blink* Really?
He never left (well not for more than a month or so at a time)

Another honorable mention: Le Van Vien, a.k.a. Bay Vien. A man I'm sure none of you have ever heard of.

He never left (well not for more than a month or so at a time)

Well I'll be dipped in gravy and left to congeal!

Which sounds kind of fun, actually.

Well I'll be dipped in gravy and left to congeal!

Which sounds kind of fun, actually.

That sounds fun to you?!

I'm against anything sticky, so that wouldn't be fun for me... but I just can't imagine that being fun either way.

Another honorable mention: Le Van Vien, a.k.a. Bay Vien. A man I'm sure none of you have ever heard of.

Vietnamese river pirate turned political figure? Switched sides from Vietminh to the South? Gambling racket as well?

Vietnamese river pirate turned political figure? Switched sides from Vietminh to the South? Gambling racket as well?

:eek:

Give that man a cigar! :D

That sounds fun to you?!

I'm against anything sticky, so that wouldn't be fun for me... but I just can't imagine that being fun either way.

Pretty much anything new that doesn't involve death or extensive destruction of my tissues is potentially fun to me.

But I like sticky.

[QUOTE=Lincolniam]Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. They did some HUGE things.QUOTE]

Good one, I wouldn't have thought of them. Not that everything they did was good, but they did so much that still affects today's society.

My own submission for most under-rated:

Stand Watie

Pretty much anything new that doesn't involve death or extensive destruction of my tissues is potentially fun to me.

But I like sticky.

I share your sentiment that the new can be fun, but I cannot abide stickiness.

Nobody knows why James Wright was my choice yet?

Only Legless Pirates guessed, and he came so close, I had to destroy his brain.

I don't know, I think Masoch had at least as much influence as Sade, even though he gets no credit for it. The Marquis just made a big splash, he didn't actually accomplish that much.

lol, not for modern or mainstream society.

ya, i have a bias to sade over masoch, but i would go out on a limb and say that sexual ethics still remains almost too taboo to really get the credit it deserves.

I assume you are referring to the poet, James Wright.

I think the most underrated person (and I'm going to stick to the 20th century) is, unfortunately:

J. Robert Oppenhiemer

Nobody knows why James Wright was my choice yet?

Only Legless Pirates guessed, and he came so close, I had to destroy his brain.

He had a wife named Liberty but they weren't happy together.

I assume you are referring to the poet.

I think the most underrated person (and I'm going to stick to the 20th century) is, unfortunately:

J. Robert Oppenhiemer

Nope. Though for all I know, he might have written poetry.

I doubt it though. He was a chemist.

Nope. Though for all I know, he might have written poetry.

I doubt it though. He was a chemist.

There is a James Wright who is a poet primarily, but maybe he's not the same person.

There is a James Wright who is a poet primarily, but maybe he's not the same person.

Well, he made us guess, and being a good liberal arts major (*ahem* would you like fries with that?), I picked the poet.

So there.

There is a James Wright who is a poet primarily, but maybe he's not the same person.

There are numerous James Wrights apparently. I don't know if the one I admire was a poet. It seems unlikely. But if it is, that's not why I admore him.

The James Wright I admire was a chemist and an inventor.

Well, he made us guess, and being a good liberal arts major (*ahem* would you like fries with that?), I picked the poet.

So there.

LOL.

Well, he made us guess, and being a good liberal arts major (*ahem* would you like fries with that?), I picked the poet.

So there.

Oh man that joke hits home. In a kind of scary way because I vowed never to work in fast food, but...

Thomas Crapper

Thomas Crapper

But everybody knows and loves him, how could he be considered underrated?

There are numerous James Wrights apparently. I don't know if the one I admire was a poet. It seems unlikely. But if it is, that's not why I admore him.

The James Wright I admire was a chemist and an inventor.

"Honey? What do you think of if I say the name James Wright?"

The Poet, dear?

"No, the guy on the board says chemistry."

Oh! He invented silly putty while trying to make artificial rubber!

::And people wonder why I keep her?::

Give your wife a hug from me.

Because she's absolutely right!

James Wright invented Silly Putty! :)

Give your wife a hug from me.

Because she's absolutely right!

James Wright invented Silly Putty! :)

Girlfriend, but will do. :)

I used to say never play trivial pursuit with her, now I just say, "teams!" and watch people cringe as she mows em down.